well put...as always
 

If only Democrats had your mentality when Bush was in office instead of acting like children throwing a huge fit for the last eight years. I am not for Obama but I will admit that it will be nice to have a break from the constant crying of Hollywood, the Media and Democratic politicians like Hillary, Nancy P, Barney Frank, Kennedy, ect....ect....ect....
 

sorry...just had to comment on this one...bush has an approval rating in the 20's....unless liberals make up for 80% of the u.s. population, i'm hard pressed to believe that it's just dems who wanted him out of there. he will go down as arguably the worst pres. in u.s. history. and that's not just comin' from me... your kids will probably read that in their history books or holograms... or whatever the hell they'll be learning with in the future. mccain didn't even want to be mentioned in the same breath. the turd sandwich that W. is leaving our nation to cope with will be an almost insurmountable task to clean up, so much so that i almost wish it was mccain who had to deal with it. sorry, i don't usually get political, but saying that only dems thought bush was incompetent and ill suited to complete a crossword puzzle much less a complete sentence is a grossly inaccurate statement...cute dog though
 

One more thing...don't be foolish enough to believe polls. Polls only gather the opinion of mabey 400 to 4000 people at a time. That is hardly a solid view point of nation as big as the United States.
 

You misunderstood me. By saying that Democrats have thrown a fit over Bush you need to look at the immediate reaction of the public. Obama wins and the conservative base took it for what it was and is living with it. The day Bush was announced President there was an uproar that began before Clinton had moved out of the White House with all of his stolen WH property. Bush never had a chance from day one. He may have made mistakes like every President has in office but he is not the root of this countries problems. Are economy and lack of jobs are largely due to the outsourcing of work, the hiring of 11 million illegal’s whose money is sent back to their countries, and the closing of many production plants across the country. Nothing is American made anymore and farmers are being paid off not to farm. The mortgage crises is not the fault of Bush. That started when the Clinton party allowed people of low income to buy a house. I worked in the mortgage industry for years and saw people with no money getting approved for houses. I tried to talk them out of it until they were financially ready and all I got back was backlash and them going to another bank who would give them a loan with a 525 credit score and $5 in their savings. Please remove your disdain for Bush for two seconds and do a little research into the world today and how we got here. Like it or not, with or without Bush war was inevitable. Iran has preached consistently about destroying Israel and America. China is building a strong Army as we speak with blueprints to our weapons that Clinton sold to them and people forget that Russian leader Vladimir Putin won his election by speaking anti-American rhetoric. We were attached by al qaeda three times while Clinton was in office. Stop watching television and reading magazines that are propaganda driven(and I mean all news including FoxNews) and dig a little deeper into more qualified sources. I’m sorry…I get on my soap box and I can’t stop. Thank you for the complement on my dog and I like yours as well!
 

dorian, that's his approval rating at the moment... it hasn't always been as such. you missed the point and kind of got off topic... she's right... since the beginning of his term, dem's have been fighting against every move he made... see one example below regarding the war and the lack of support in the beginning... take focus off this election... it's been the case in D.C. everytime there's been a change in party power, republican or democrat... the point being that D.C. is so caught up in partisan politics, that it loses focus on what it's there for to begin with... no party is innocent... again... a politician is a politician...
 

bush has never been the most popular president. in 2000, when he was first elected, he didn't even win the popular vote. people are critical because most of his moves, or at least the ones that are getting people killed, have been based on misleading or untruthful information. that being said, we're kind of stuck right now, but to label efforts to a. not get us into or b. get out of a costly war(s) as partisan politics is problematic to me. i wasn't disagreeing with the fact that politics are privy to partisan viewpoints...a two party system almost ensures that. i was just emphasizing that it's not just dems who think he did a piss poor job. this current election, if nothing else, has shown that the majority of the country(blue and red)was not satisfied and has felt mislead.
 

dude... again, you're arguing with a ghost... i never said... no one on this blog ever said, bush was ever the most popular president.

regarding this: "people are critical because most of his moves, or at least the ones that are getting people killed, have been based on misleading or untruthful information."
YOU don't know that... I... don't even know that and i've been there and seen the place with my own eyes... i'm assuming we're talking about WMD's right now... and frankly we don't know that they were never there, maybe there and possibly moved... or even aren't still hidden there. you wanna talk about making decisions based on 'misleading or untruthful' information... well, pretty often, especially pertaining to this war... that's EXACTLY what our news has been... therefore, you're doing just that...

and denying a surge of troops when we needed it most doesn't get us out of a war. it gets our guys killed. i'm not defending bush... this isn't even about him. it's about the games that are played on Capitol Hill and how they affect our guys on the ground. to have a legitimate argument that you think might gain some traction and fix a problem is one thing... but in this specific situation, their only motive was to throw a wrench in his system, in a fashion that is almost numb and even unaware of what's really going on over there.

and one more time... it's not about party. BOTH parties are guilty... the point of this blog is to say that for reasons listed above, it really needs to stop. people who voted for McCain refusing to support Obama doesn't help anything or fix any problem and it didn't when Bush was elected either.

if you really wanna play the blame game though... lets follow the trail of dominoes... you blame the war for our economic problems yes? it's been expensive so that's legit. BUT... would we even have gone after Saddam if Clinton hadn't let him go back then when he had him? he could've finished the job. you know who else Clinton had?? Bin Laden... not that it's ever proactive to say 'coulda woulda shoulda' but... you're jumping on bush for this war and he'd have been hard pressed to have a war with these guys if they were dead already.
 

sorry bobby, never was commenting on your post...more so a comment in a post about your post. there was one more domino though...reagan funded bin laden in the 80's when he was a "freedom fighter". so neither bush or clinton is totally at fault from that standpoint. i guess this could go on forever...anyways, hope the shows are going well. peace
 

absolutely agreed... the war alone would've gone a LOT smoother if the parties would've united and said, 'okay, we're over there... lets do this right...' the surge worked... but it should've happened years ago... could've saved a lot of lives. the political tug of war is what ended us up where we're at at this juncture.
 

I think you are a clown... I Voted for Obama, and I think that he is going to do a damn good job! And if not I will punch you in the face for it!
 

you would... do you even watch the news?? wait a minute... the news is on TV. nevermind... stupid question... go eat a sandwich bitch... quit ruining our country.
 

Well put. I said the same thing pretty much although I think everyone is entitled to one day of pissing and moaning about it if they voted for McCain. Whatever the case we do need to stay united and try to get along liberals and conservatives.
 

crunch crunch crunch.... Oh that's the sound of me eating my sandwich.... oh and the sound of Obama winning!
 

I voted for McCain/Palin. I believe in peace through superior fire power. I am a red blooded american and i eat steak!, and sushi and even veggie burgers. Hell what im saying is it's nice to hold on to sentimetal notions of real americans like john mccain running this nation. We are being forced to change, we are thrust into a new day, and reluctantly I step forward too. God bless america, god bless obama, and oh lord please GOD save us when all hell goes wrong!
 

Be careful....very, very careful. Respect and loyalty should be earned not just handed over on a silver platter. I think there are levels to respect. Basic respect should be given to all human beings because they are created in the image of G-d. But anything after that should be earned. I realize that as a soldier you're in a different position than the civillian population, but I would caution that our soldiers too should always weigh our leaders and what they are asking them to do. People seem to act like this guy's some kind of saviour....very scary idea to me. I seem to remember another country thinking the same thing about a charismatic politician and then giving him total loyality and respect and it ended with a world war and a whole lot of good, innocent people dying horrendous deaths. People are delusional if they think it can't happen again. It is our responsibility as citizens of this great country to be educated and to choose leaders, not by what they see on SNL, but by looking at their records and backgrounds. They all have them.....what is the candidates character? How does he vote? Does he even really vote or does he cop out by voting "Present"....thereby blocking any real review of what he's thinking. In this election I didn't feel like I really had a good choice....ended up voting what I was hoping was the lesser of two evils. The fact that in a country as great as our's, that this was the situation is probably the most disappointing thing to me.
By the way when are you coming back to Lubbock....remember we have lunch plans when you do. Much love and take good care of yourself..........Mom
 

oh, i agree with what you're saying... and don't get me wrong, i'm not talking about complete blind loyalty. of course if i was told to do something that i questioned ethically, i'd make my own decision. i'm not saying that even we in the military should be brainwashed or completely give ourselves to him or any man. BUT... he is our president and we owe him our respect for having been put in that position via the system we defend. we ALL, civilian and military alike, however, have the responsibility of monitoring him.

and as far as lubbock goes... ha ha... not quite sure... money's pretty tight at the moment. but if i get up there, we'll have that lunch for sure.
 

I was on the same side of the election, and I couldn't agree with you more. The right of the people to choose is what makes America great. John McCain put it best, "The people have spoken."
 

Respect and Loyalty are earned. I respect the office and it is more important than any one President. I didn't like Bill Clinton but I did not fear him. Just watch what happens next. I am not going to explain why I fear what Obama is going to try and do. because it is all out there for everyone to see. That is each individuals responsibility to figure out and it is not that hard. The price for ignorance is the highest price we pay. When Jimmy Carter was elected like now he had a majority of dems in the House and Senate and all he got everything that he wanted passed. That ushered in Ronald Reagan in a landslide. I don't want harm to come to this country but it is what it is. Liberalism does not work. Obama could earn my loyalty by being a Conservative. Nobody thinks that is going to happen. People are about to find out who Obama really is soon and they are not going to believe it. Hold onto yourselves.
 

well then you're not arguing with me either... you say respect and loyalty are earned and i agree... but as you stated... in this and in your email, we in the military still have to respect the office. you may not like him but you'll obey him, -to a point of course-... just like we did when Clinton was in office. and i can't comment on the Jimmy Carter stuff... i wasn't there... :) thanks for insight though grandpa. ha ha.
 

Wyld Style has the most articulate and well-informed opinion out of anyone here. I thinK Presidentz r kool wen they r reel amrkins and eet stake.
 

dude... if you wanna get on here and add something intelligent... funny... on/off topic... whatever... it's all cool... but don't get on here and attack my friends... you don't know him. he's in the Navy as well... he's been in the military for almost as long as i have. he's extremely intelligent and well informed... we've had many conversations in regards to this topic... his comment was obviously meant to be humorous, and that should be apparent to even those who don't know him... and more importantly, he was talking to me. tell me Ryan... do you plan to ever actually become a man?? do you plan to ever actually stand for anything?? i mean, you talk a lot... you like getting on here and blogging... you and i have had many discussions/arguments on here... you're a semi smart kid who likes to read and then write about what you read... but will your life be spent hiding behind a computer monitor ridiculing those who 'only seemingly in this case' may not be as well spoken as you are?? i don't think you have the first clue about what true conviction is... you seem pretty passionate about Christianity... you go to church... talk the hype... blah blah blah... but would you die for it?? (you'll say yes because it's easy to type but it doesn't change the fact that you've never had to consider dying for something...) normally i wouldn't come at someone like you this way because, you are a child. i shouldn't, in all rights, expect that you'd have been given the opportunity to have to be so convicted about something yet in your life... but you've said just enough to make me think that you're on a path in which you never will so 'why not now?'... you are the stereotypical sniveling manboy (that is boy in a man's body), probably a hair to smart for your own good, but not smart enough to realize how uninformed and lacking in life experience you must be... to be so disrespectful to those so beyond you in so many aspects. you should really humble yourself... you're lacking pretty bad in the respect department... one can only hope that something happens in your life to knock you off of the course you're on so that you'll look back in 10 years and laugh at yourself and realize what an idiot you were. if not... well, at least you live here in the United States where you can pin yourself up in your room on a computer while others fight for your right to post your uninformed, uneducated opinions all over the net. i'm sure i've quoted this to you before... but here it is again... and he's definitely talking about people just like you... (you being the critic of course)

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly... who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." -Teddy Roosevelt...
 

My favorite part of the whole Bush debate is the notion that the last eight years were all so bad. I don't know about anyone else, but I did really damn well for seven to seven and a half of them. Do I credit George W Bush for all that. . . certainly not. On the flip side of that coin I can't condemn him for all that is wrong now. He is after all one man. He may be the president, but if we learned nothing from 5th grade social studies it's that while he may be president he heads up only the EXECUTIVE branch of our fine government. I know we didn't all learn latin, but the root of Executive is Execute, and what that means is that the two other branches of our covernemen make and interpret laws leaving the president only to execute them. I will happily concede there there are other responsibilities of the commander in chief, and do not care to argue whether or not W. did them well, but please for gods sake think back not only past the short term memory that this country has, but to your own education before you try to blame everything wrong, or credit everything right to one person. All that being said. . . Congress (both houses) have lower approval ratings than Bush ever had, and I ask now 'why for the love of god did we have no other choice but between two congressment for president?'


Bobby, sorry for the cliche, but "at the end of the day" I agree with you. Obama is what we have, and for the sake of our country we must get behind him. Congratulate him when he's right, correct him when he's wrong. That is all we need do with any president. After all we speak as a democracy through our republic. The time for this is not only at the polls. How many of those who hate Bush have ever written their congressman? It is they, not the president who represent you, and make your laws.