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Sexo: Male
Status: Solteiro
Idade: 31
Sinal: Áries

Cidade: Los Angeles
Estado: California
País: US
Data de Inscrição: 16/2/2007
quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 
Myspace has returned access to the profile to me.

This doesn't make up for what happened, and I'm unsure of how I'll proceed from here with this blank profile of 150,000 people. I hope you'll all help me decide.

At this point, maybe it would be best to delete it and move on.
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passEnger

 
just read the article, and i think this is a sad, sad story.
i'm not into the vote campaign (i'm from italy), but i thought it was nice to have barack among my friends.

as always and everywhere, the person that you like/support is right, has a strong image and thought, while the people around him are not that good, they just care for their job, the money, the result, without caring for other people.

sad, because your fan-site was like a little/big heaven, home-grown, sincere, self supporting, an incredibly positive result of our deteriorating media society.
but when it came in contact with the real world, it had to face the "market rules", not the "human rules", the "ethic rules".

dunno what you can do with your page, maybe you can be able to turn it again into an idealistic and positive way to look at politics, that's the one thing we all need, i think.

sincerely,
andrea


(hope my thought is clear, sorry for my english.)
 
Postado por passEnger em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:47
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Ash{ley}

 
I just read the blog on the, at this moment, ? page.  I went to comment and it was deleted, sooo...  Anyways, I get how you feel man.  I got to liing Obama in the first place because he wasn't a politician.  Not in the typical Clinton way.  But, when you run for president you surround yourself with people who will force a politician out of you.  Well, you've already got the friend list.  Why not just go with an "unofficial" site under a new url.  You'll still have more friends than they do and you'd satisfy the reasons that we all jumped on the friend list in the first place.  If not, I am betting there's no Mike Gravel site yet.  Wouldn't that be sweet.  Mike Gravel would instantly have the highest number of friends of any presidential candidate.  Especially since he is last in the polls (meaning doesn't even show up on).  You should have been compinsated.  I mean, look at that guy that did all that stuff for Howard Dean, that guy made a whole career out of it.

 
Postado por Ash{ley} em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:48
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bryan daniel peach

 
Thank God!  Way to go, pal.  Thanks so much for championing such a great cause, even though you were thrown into it ... most of us would've just let ourselves drown, but you're definitely afloat.

Keep us updated.

 
Postado por bryan daniel peach em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:50
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Paul

 
Hey Joe,

I can't seem to post a comment on the blog that's on the orginal site so here I am. I just now got caught up on everything that's been happening. I have now added your personal page to my friends list and after posting this comment I am going to forward a bulletin to my friends list. I am an Edwards fan but dems are dems are dems.

For starters I applaud your efforts. Doing what you love to do because you love to it is admirable. Very cool that Obama called you. Before I got to your personal page and read that he called you personally, I was thinking; "Well where the hell is Barrack in all this?" I also think that it's admirable that you don't want this entire fiascoe to change or affect the opinions of people (voters) in a negative way. I think that if a payday was <span style="font-style: italic;">all </span>that you were after you wouldn't give a rat's ass about how people thought about Obama. Spin sucks.

I hope you understand that you have a very large gang of support in all this. You have a mighty pen in your hand that you can use as you wish. Beit to bash those who are responsible, or to lead and be positive. From what I have read about all this (and will continue to read) I think that you are the type to persue the latter. I am not sure how to answer the question you posed in the bulletin that got me reading about all this. What to do with the site...I will think about it tonight and at work tomorrow. Maybe if you think of options you could put it to a vote. Maybe the folks at Air America might have a thought. Rachel Maddow is on soon, I'll forward some of this to her and see what happens...At anyrate BE ENCOURAGED! Let <span style="font-style: italic;">your </span>gang know what you want....good luck, and get some rest...

Paul, in Reno, NV

 
Postado por Paul em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:57
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SoCalJule
Julia Ferguson Andriessen

 
Joe I sent you a private email with thoughts but just read this here and wanted to share something in the public format as well.

1. I haven't decided who to vote for and I honestly did NOT realize your site was not from the Obama campaign.  I joined it to learn more about him just as I have joined some of the other candidates.  I wanted "official" information to help me clarify my knowledge on the candidate.

2.  Myspace will get crazier and crazier as this election comes closer.  If you don't want to be swamped as a volunteer for ANY candidate you may wish to factor that into what you choose to do with your page.  I realize "friends" get frustrated and demanding when they don't get a quick response and I also see how that can be damaging when so many people actually believe they are talking to official people on the profiles on here. 

3.  The 150k peoples opinions are somewhat irrelevant.  Why?  because you don't volunteer for them.  You have a life.  We don't pay you.  You don't need the shit that comes out of everyone thinking you "owe" them something.  Remember if you aren't getting paid then all the time and sweat and hassle is yours and only yours.  So it goes back to a passion thing.  What are you willing to focus on for the sheer joy and drive of it?

4.  Whatever you decide, the 150k people can then decide if they want to continue being a "friend" on the site.  For me personally, since I joined what I thought was an official site, I will move on to that site. 

I hope you find peace in your heart over all of this.  Whatever you decide and whomever you support. 

Kindly,

Julia

 
Postado por SoCalJule em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:18
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Ash{ley}

 
Here is what I wrote on the subject.

Barack Obama's Myspace

 
Postado por Ash{ley} em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:34
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Russdogg™

 
I'm still voting for obama.
 
Postado por Russdogg™ em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:40
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Clint
Clint Hansen

 
About how many hours did you put into Obamas page over the past 5 years? How much money did you spend on it? Did you really ask for money because I keep getting different accounts of how much? If so, how much did you ask for? Do you know who your going to vote for? If so, who? Do you prefer cake or pie? 
 
Postado por Clint em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:49
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Hi Clint,

The hours are impossible to quantify, but those who've been in contact with me over the years know that I was doing more than just accepting friend requests on that page.

I originally asked for some part-time arrangement, because the demands of the profile began to interfere with my job and take over my personal life. This was not an option for the campaign and I understand that they wanted full control.

They asked me to make a proposal for a one time fee to transfer the profile over to them and I did. That is not the reason they took this profile. If anything, it's their excuse.

I don't know who I'm going to vote for. Probably Barack Obama.

Cheesecake (haha sucker)

 
Postado por Joe Anthony em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:53
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Heather
Heather Carlson

 
<P>Joe,</P><P>Why would you still honor him with your vote?  I just read about this and I am pissed!  What a bunch of crap.  These guys are not short on cash whatsoever!  They should have compensated you for your work and time, although that is not the point of the matter.  How can they kick you off YOUR PAGE???  OMG, I have an idea, offer your services to another candidate--maybe his biggest competitor???   </P><P>What really upsets me, though, is.....cheesecake?  C'mon dude, what the??</P><P>Best Regards to you Joe</P><P> </P>
 
Postado por Heather em terça-feira, agosto 07, 2007 - 5:33
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Dirty Puddin

 
<P>Joe,</P><P>    I think that you have a responsibility to get this story out.  It is now on the drudge report so it should go somewhere.  I was going to vote for him, but now I am not. I think that we are all looking for a presidential candidate who is honest, and is a good citizen, someone who believes in democracy and what it stands for.  He does not sound like he is the candidate that we are looking for.</P><P>Lee</P>
 
Postado por Dirty Puddin em terça-feira, agosto 07, 2007 - 5:30
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eugene
Eugene Keselman

 
Joe. Way to make some noise! Glad we all have our profile back, dont delete it its a great source of information, the more sites like that the better. Lets get to a million friends!!! Haha imagine how much work that is....let me know if i can help! I think its a good oppartunity to build more confidence in the Barak voting community and tell them..."hey we are better than that" you and many others are as much a face of this campaign as any other person, atleast after this fiasco!!! Later.
 
Postado por eugene em terça-feira, agosto 07, 2007 - 5:27
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Kristin

 
<P>Which would be a drop in the bucket, considering that even the official Obama website included a link to Joe's Myspace page, which demonstrated what an asset it was to them, in addition to the countless hours of work on Joe's part.</P><P>And to all the people protesting the idea that votes can be bought or sold...?????? Bush has been elected twice.  And anybody ever heard of Halliburton??? This is really unrelated to the issue at hand, which I don't think is about that, but come on people....</P>
 
Postado por Kristin em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:33
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Rachel

 
"Which would be a drop in the bucket, considering that even the official Obama website included a link to Joe's Myspace page..."

Especially considering the fact that companies which procur email addresses for candidates typical charge $1 per address.  Joe basically handed them more than $39,000 worth of contacts.  And that's not even counting the work he put into the site.  Beside, the campaign will toss out thousands of dollars to buy ad space, rent locations, pay for travel etc. etc. etc.  They have the money and they're going to use it.  I wish they had used some of it to work this problem out. 

Besides, how technologically retarded are these people?  If you're a senator, even if you're not running for president, it's pretty obvious that you shouls go on and grab up the myspace name, the yahoo/google account etc.  I mean, hell, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have already registered the website with their babies name.  Two Hollywood idiots are apparently smarter than the people who want to run the country.

 
Postado por Rachel em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 2:57
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The Scuba Steve

 
<p class="MsoNormal">Joe, sometimes you just need to roll with the punches. Life is not fair. Don't delete the profile. Be the bigger man here and things will work out. I am a supporter of Obama and like you have been since I heard him speak at the Democratic convention two plus years ago. If you are still a supporter of Obama, which I think you are from your previous post, you should be the bigger man and just direct the 150,000+ users to the new Obama campaign profile. Who cares how they were obtained or the details that the media/campaign is spinning. Ultimately, we are all here for the same reason. That reason is to get Obama in office.

Things will work out for you in the end!</p>
 
Postado por The Scuba Steve em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 3:33
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the Manchurian Photoshopper

 
<P>I have to agree with you Peter. I feel and have for some years now that goverment and the average person has become a glaringly obvious example of "Us and Them". Its nearly to the point where I just wish that the goverment would drop the insulting ruse of the political candidates even remotely caring or for that matter that the elections are even "real". I am nearly too cynical to even be an American at this point. </P><P>I feel like declaring myself a soverign state of disillusionment, at least I can design my own flag.</P>
 
Postado por the Manchurian Photoshopper em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:42
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The Writer

 
<P>Dear Joe,</P><P>Hi, I was one of the "friends" on your Obama MySpace page.</P><P>I do genuinely believe your intentions were 100 percent good, but I can see also the perspective of the Obama campaign. They probably should have reserved the myspace.com/barackobama page before anyone else got a hold of it, but there are also many sites where one can create his or her own address (e.g., blog servers), and so carrying out that idea might be a tad unrealistic.</P><P>It simply isn't convenient for someone "outside" the campaign's official management to operate such a page. Yes, the Obama campaign could have handled the situation better. But I can see how his people might have felt that they were being pressured by a force that somewhat resembled extortion. Again, I do believe your intentions were well-meant, but how well do Obama's people know you? You could flip one day, for all they know.</P><P>A messy situation came of all it, and that's unfortunate.</P>
 
Postado por The Writer em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 3:47
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natalie - www.THUNDERSQUEE.com

 
<P>As a Web Developer myself, I feel your frustrations. Putting all that work into something and then having someone scrap it. Its like an open-handed slap to the face. But, what people don't realize is, its not up to Barak Obama. Every politician has handlers, just like every musician, actor, etc. These handlers do things like this to protect the campaigns best interest. Its like having someone else control your bank account. Would any of us be content with someone they do not know handling our hard earned money? I think not. </P><P>People shouldn't be discouraged from voting for him when election comes around.</P><P> I myself, had made an "unofficial" Myspace page for a musician only for it to be taken from me 3 weeks later because I was not one of her handlers. </P><P>C'est la vie. </P>
 
Postado por natalie - www.THUNDERSQUEE.com em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 3:54
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I LIKE MIKE

 
political page.....no name attached thats what I did & would kill to have the friends list you have. Joe you have a voice please dont let it go to waste.

 
Postado por I LIKE MIKE em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 4:03
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Adam Rinkleff
Lirath Pynnor

 
Yah, use it to express YOUR views. 
 
Postado por Adam Rinkleff em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:39
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Modern Primate
Modern Primate

 
I wonder id Obama himself is even aware of this.  I think you should minimally hang on to the page.  Hell, with that many friends you could make a fortune selling tee shirts for the democratic party by linking directly to a cafe press page.  Just an idea.  But after all the news, I'd be surprised if they don't contact you again soon.
 
Postado por Modern Primate em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:25
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Kristin

 
<P>Joe, </P><P>Go check out my page. I posted a blog about these events. I am trying to get the word out. </P><P>So the old profile is back in your control now, eh? Great. </P><P>So what is next?</P>
 
Postado por Kristin em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:29
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ISAAC

 
<P>Hey Joe,</P><P>This whole situation is terribly unfortunate... for everyone.</P><P>I understand why you're upset. It was just a situation waiting to explode with a volunteer in charge of the BarackObama campaign profile. That, and back compensation for volunteer work definitely takes the matter into even shakier ground. I think that Obama should be in charge of the barackobama url, but you should also be recognized in some way for you're countless time and hardwork. There's just still that tricky problem of backpay for compensation. I can also see how they'd react strongly and try to go around you when a volunteer asks for tens of thousands in backpay.</P><P>I say that this current smelly situation isn't benefitting anyone. You're pissed off and your pet project is in shambles and of course Barack Obama is getting hurt a lot in this too. My opinion: Demand a public apology for them sidestepping you, but also give the profile to the Obama campaign. You believed in that man for a reason. This country needs a good leader and you know he's the man. Don't let his cutthroat campaign staff disenfranchize you. In the end, they're trying to do everything in their power to get the man they believe in into office. I believe in him to. Even in your anger, be a bigger man and don't let this chance putting someone like Hillary clinton in office...</P><P>Tank you and good luck.</P><P>-Isaac</P>
 
Postado por ISAAC em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:31
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Constitutional Republic

 
    I believe the idea of using the page and it's subscriber base for social consciousness is a great idea. 

You did a great job for Obama.  Campaign organisers are dicks.  They are there to 1st protect their candidate and 2nd to further their own personal agendas.  As for their candidate, the campaign staff has their heart in the right place.  Their tactics sound rediculouse considering they gave up an automatic 160000 "friends".  The right thing in my eyes would have been to offer you some compensation and asked for your help.  Instead, I'd imagine that some of the staffers were jealous of your progress and forsight and wanted to block you out of getting any of their coveted credit.  That is where their personal agendas come into play.

 
Postado por Constitutional Republic em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:32
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Nigel

 
Glad to hear that things are moving along in a positive direction. Good luck with working out how to proceed. At least the MSM seems to be giving a fair account of what transpired. This is definitely a learning experience for everyone who develops the "so-called" web2.0. Nigel
 
Postado por Nigel em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:33
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The Oneironaut
Matthew Seuschek

 
good for you. this is your page anyway, i think we all knew barack was not running a mysapce page...but then again....that cool litte asian hottie who keeps asking for your friendship here? it's Obama! I have deleted you from my friendlist, find me again if you make a new one.

take care!

 
Postado por The Oneironaut em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:41
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☆stefani☆

 
I just read your bulletin about this situation and I must first say: thank you for all your time and effort into something you truly believe in and support. And secondly here's my avise: let them have this acct (or delete it) and start one with a new url like barack obama fan site or something. Yes, they gave you control back, but I feel as the campaign goes on this situation will only worsen. They haven't just given up and walked away... maybe for now, but I honestly don't feel they will forever. Myspace is letting you keep all of us, and we are all still here to support you ((and Obama)) so I say just redo your site under a new url and lets get on with this. I know I'm not deleting your Obama site from my friends list, because I know you will work this out and figure out what you feel is the right course to take in all this. Good Luck to you and GO OBAMA!!
 
Postado por ☆stefani☆ em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 6:52
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David
David Markland

 
Well, its a fascinating story no matter what. Especially if Barack becomes President, it'll be something cool to tell your grankids about.

As for the site - you have 150,000 friends. I wouldn't delete it - make some good of it. Turn it into a voice for a social issue that you stand behind. Maybe adapt it into a site focusing on how Presidential candidates are utilizing online communities. Maybe even offer to sell it to the Clinton or Edwards campaigns ;) .

Or, take the high road and turn it right back into the Obama fan page it was intended to be, and be critical of the campaign staff but supportive of the man.

On a side note, I wrote two entries about this at Metroblogging Los Angeles:

Yesterday and today.

 
Postado por David em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:29
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Samantha
Samantha Lee

 
Man that is so lame! after all the "individual empowerment" crap the campaign represents, they  do soemthing like that to you? If you decide to delete it out of spite, I totally understand. I hope that are able to work something out for you. And if not, I commend you on all your hard work and effort. f'in politics... even the good ones have to have a sour side. i'm sorry!
 
Postado por Samantha em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:38
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roblimo

 
Joe, I feel bad about what happened to you at the hands of the Obama campaign, but at the same time you helped teach a (sadly) valuable lesson to a lot of people: that presidential campaigns no longer have room for grassroots volunteers. They have become professional operations and the rest of us should just stay home, shut up, and send money.

Maybe one day a candidate will come along who breaks that mold. For awhile I thought Obama would be that candidate, but it turned out that he wasn't.

Oh, well. :(



 
Postado por roblimo em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:40
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BAKE

 
I hope all of you don't lose support just because of this event. It is just myspace after all. People sometimes take this too seriously. I figured something was going to happen to the profile at some point but I figured it would come from the people who own myspace, fox and everthing else.  Don't lose hope!
 
Postado por BAKE em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 7:40
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lili

 
joe, whateva you do  <span style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Courier New,Courier,mono;">do not delete it.</span>  there exists here a huge opportunity [you built] to eduacate, and facilitate the generation of dialogue n communication on relevant sociopolitical matters of interest.  don throw the baby out with the bathwater...
 
Postado por lili em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:01
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Natalia

 
In what way has the profile been returned? Under a different URL? Please clarify what has happened (give a link) and tell us why, because I would like to vote for Obama if he makes this right, but if he doesn't... well, let's just say there are other candidates who haven't abused their power online.


 
Postado por Natalia em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:01
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LA Town Crier
Don Garza

 
Thanks to this incident it made it easier for me to decide which of the two candadates to support. If Obama can stab a supporter in the back by taking away the myspace site someone else has built and think that he can claim credit for it later on , that people are going to forget. HE is mistaken.

HE made it easier. I was going to weigh the politicians . But if he stabs his own constituent in the back , what makes me think he won't do the same once he is in office?

 
Postado por LA Town Crier em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 8:45
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JYL
Juan Laura

 
<P>I just read the article on MSNBC and I just wanted to say... My personal opinion of the situation is that your punishing the candidate for the actions taken by the campaigning managers. If you really ever supported Obama's beliefs and politics then just give the profile back, deleting the profile just seems a little bitter, it will make you feel a whole lot better.</P><P>-Laura</P>
 
Postado por JYL em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:04
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Jimmy

 
I really feel for you man. It's wrong that they didn't leave your content intact. This is the whole reason why I've only voted Democrat once. I was 19 and I believed all the rhetoric about being for the little guy, etc. The truth is that Democrats don't believe in the little guy; they believe in oligarchy. Your Obama myspace page did no harm for over two years. You did all this work promoting Obama that they didn't have to pay anything for. Then when you wouldn't give it to them for pennies, they used their money and influence to go over your head. The fact that they told myspace that yours was the official Obama myspace page should invalidate their claim that your profile violated myspace's TOS. It's not about you. It's about the people who are better than you, who have been appointed by Lenin himself. They probably thought you'd give it to them for a $10 Wal Mart gift certificate or something. You should have given it to the Obama campaign for free, provided that they consider it a $50,000 donation. When Obama called you, he should have apologized on behalf of his staff, if not taking complete responsibility himself. That would have been the honorable thing to do. The Obama campaign still owes you, IMO.
 
Postado por Jimmy em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:25
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Ruthay

 
NO!!  DON'T DELETE IT!  When I first sent a friend request to the profile you created for Barack I knew it wasn't him or his campaign.  You said so very clearly on the profile.  I was joining the positive spirit that leads someone to spontaneously create a positive change in society.  Now, here you are.  Although you might feel a little knocked around right now, that will pass.  You have all the same positivism you had back then.  You will find it again.  I think it should become a massive "Get Out The Vote" or some such thing. 

If every eligible citizen in this country registered to vote and voted, we would never see the kind of corruption we have today.  It is the power of participation. 

All the best to you.

 
Postado por Ruthay em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:25
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Ms♥Perfect
President Is Black

 
keep it going!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Postado por Ms♥Perfect em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 9:50
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Troyus
Troy Troyus

 
What a bunch of bull, this is the kind of move I would have expected from some other candidate, not this one. :(
 
Postado por Troyus em quinta-feira, maio 03, 2007 - 10:45
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Willow

 
Hi Joe,

You did a wonderful thing for Barack Obama, and I'm sure he expressed his appreciation to you. All of his supporters appreciate your efforts. We are all very sorry to see that whatever happened between you and Obama's campaign workers is causing such damage to him and his campaign. I'm sure he, personally, had nothing to do with how badly all of this was handled.

I know that you feel terrible, and thousands of people are sorry about that, including me. I'm sure egos were bruised on both sides. But I know you were passionate about supporting Barack, or you wouldn't have done all that work for him. I hope that after you've taken some time to heal a little, you will be able to take the high road. Please try to understand that if Barack was handling this personally, it would have been handled better than this. You understand that he MUST express his support for his campaign employees, whether he thinks they've done a great job here or not, don't you? He's in the middle of a very fast-moving campaign. He cannot afford to alienate them or replace them now.

Please don't destroy the site and all the friends you collected. I'm sure you would very much regret that. Please keep the sight and all your friends and put it to good use. Perhaps you can get passed the mishandling by his campaign workers, rise above it, and still use your sight to tell people why you think Obama is the best candidate, and why you still believe he is the best person for the job of president.

I hope that you will put the result of all your hard work to positive use, whether it's to continue your support for Barack, or for some other worthy cause.

All the Best, Willow
 
Postado por Willow em sexta-feira, maio 04, 2007 - 12:12
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Dahlia Anzaldua Torres
Dahlia Anzaldua Torres

 
<P>nooooooooooooooo don't delete it . . </P><P>congrats . . . .  you can't give up . . .   keep it going . . and just remember why you started it in the first place</P><P> </P>
 
Postado por Dahlia Anzaldua Torres em sexta-feira, maio 04, 2007 - 2:36
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virb.com/theartfuldodger

 
<P>I just wanted to say, with the utmost respect, that I don't support your position.</P><P>I appreciate the work you put into the profile. I can understand, however, why the campaign would want control. After all, when I first saw the profile months ago, I initially thought it was Obama himself. Regardless of the fact that you disclosed the site as a fan site, some people just don't pay attention and could miss it. </P><P>Personally, I wouldn't want a stranger to represent me in a similar manner. I don't think anybody would, much less someone in as huge a spotlight as Obama.</P><P>As for everybody who is considering withdrawing support for Obama. Please. Name another campaign that would have handled the Myspace issue half as well. Edwards' fake "candid" video blog? Clinton's glitzy youtube candidacy announcement? Anybody else would have pulled the plug on the Obama myspace a year ago. </P><P>The fact is, Obama still stands on the right side of many issues that matter. Domestic policy issues. Foreign policy issues. The Myspace issue is of little importance. It would have been crazy to let someone outside the campaign continue to run it; however, I agree there was better ways to handle it, in hindsight. And there's plenty of worse ways. I don't believe Obama should have to apologize for his campaign, because they are fellow supporters who are working toward the same goal. They're not evil. They're just trying to do the best job they can. We should allow a little bit of wiggle room for human error and misjudgement.</P><P>Obama is the same person. I can understand and respect if you withdraw your support, because it involved you personally. It was, in a sense, between you and Obama and you did get a degree of disrespect. I appreciate that you are hesitant to drag Obama through the mud on this. I do respect you in a lot of ways, I want to make sure that is clear.</P><P>But as for everyone else who wasn't personally involved but are so turned off by the matter. It's Myspace. It's not our troops overseas. It's not the wage gap. It's not racial profiling. It's not tax breaks for the rich. It's Myspace. </P><P>Sure, in the bigger picture, it's a PR thing. But that's the whole thing that's wrong with politics is PR. Good PR helps people vote for bad candidates. Some candidates are only as good as their PR. The reason people support Obama is because his character outshines his PR. You can hear it in his voice and read it in his writings and see it in his eyes. People support him because he's genuine; he is more than the PR that represents him. But don't let a bad PR decision override the merits of a good candidate, or you're just as much a sucker as the people who vote for people with good PR. </P><P>Like I said. It's Myspace.</P>
 
Postado por virb.com/theartfuldodger em sexta-feira, maio 04, 2007 - 7:16
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Serah

 
Don't delete the profile! What an amazing opportunity you have...a blank profile with 150,000 people! You've proven yourself to be a great organizer, and could use the site for so many great things. I'm so sorry about how badly this was handled, but know that you are appreciated by thousands!!!!
 
Postado por Serah em sexta-feira, maio 04, 2007 - 6:21
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Shawn

 
<P>SEEMS LIKE OBAMA'S PAID WORKERS ARE COMMENTING THE HECK OUT OF YOUR PAGE..... THEY MUST BE WORRIED THAT YOU'LL GO ASTRAY. </P><P>YOU DID MORE SUCCESSFUL WORK FOR OBAMA THAN ALL OF THEM TOGETHER ...HAHA. </P><P>I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG (EVEN B4 HE DECIDED TO RUN) BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT .....YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HIM PERSONALLY  AND HE HAS ONLY OFFERED YOU THE STANDARD POLITICAL THANK YOU FOR YOUR HIGHLY EFFECTIVE SUPPORT.  </P><P>THEY WAY YOU'VE BEEN TREATED BY OBAMA SEEMS WORSE THAN EVEN WHAT THE REPULICANS DO.  BARRAK MIGHT STILL BE FOR CHANGE .....I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT KIND</P>
 
Postado por Shawn em sexta-feira, maio 04, 2007 - 7:15
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Hope

 
You should have gotten a 139K! Why are ppl so upset that you asked for money? They offered.

Anyway... this is history in the making folks. This stuff won't happen in a a year.

Unfortunately... we are slowly losing our democracy. That's what I feel like anyway.

Joe... do what you feel! It's your choice, your path. Your way. It's all you ... All of it.
 
Postado por Hope em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 2:11
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Ashley

 
<P> OBAMA '08</P><P> </P>
 
Postado por Ashley em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 5:23
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Dariana

 
<P>I just saw the youtube video for the first time about what happened to you.  I WAS an Obama supporter UNTIL I saw what they did.  I also feel myspace is responsible legally as well.  If the Obama campaign felt the page was a threat or the info might be inaccurate, then they should have asked that the page be shutdown but definitely they had NO LEGAL right to turn your space over to someone else.</P><P>I am also reconsidering my support which has been HUGE of Obama.  This was totally unprofessional, underhanded, and cheesy.</P><P>I say KEEP YOUR PROFILE and use it to let the world know what happened to you.  I am so sorry, this was just awful.</P>
 
Postado por Dariana em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 3:55
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Sherri

 
Obama's people were stupid to mess this site and you didn't ask for enough money. I think you ought to sue the campaign and myspace.
 
Postado por Sherri em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 8:22
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G

 
Joe,

You did a great thing.  Don't delete it.  Atleast not for about three weeks.  You were terribly wronged and you were betrayed in a really cynical way and eventually smeared.  I want you to know that you have made it alot easier to select a candidate to support OR NOT!

When the initial pain from what happened to you eases, you will realize that your can still use your network of friends for a good use, even if not directly for Obama.

Good Luck and Bless you.

 
Postado por G em sábado, maio 05, 2007 - 10:42
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pep

 
<P>Joe -</P><P>You've built this community and I think you should keep maintaining it.  </P><P>I believe that you have written, and I'm confident that their version of events doesn't tell the full truth. . . .  They're own behavior tells me that they can't be trusted to tell the whole story. </P><P>Whether they were acting with his authority or not, Obama's people mistreated and deceived you - they abused you and they abused your trust - and Obama's responsible for that.  </P><P>If I were you, I would keep the community going by talking about what just happened: good karma has a way of gathering when two or three people of goodwill come together.  That's why you should keep on doing what you've been doing, which is talking to your friends and helping your friends talk to one another.  What you were able to accomplish in building this community is the result of who you are - your spirit and your strength - and you shouldn't let anyone take that from you.  </P><P>So what?  A few intellectually dishonest and pointy-headed functionarios couldn't stand to see something that they couldn't control.  So what?  Some privileged amd elitist college grads couldn't stand their own insecurity, so they had to try to squash your work.  Probably some day they'll be doing the same thing from inside the government - instead of from inside a campaign HQ.  </P><P>But whatever they do or don't do, you should be YOU.  Don't react to what they do - just keep true to yourself.  The fear-driven bureaucrats will always be with us - but you're not one of them, and that's all that we need to know. </P><P> </P><P>  </P><P> </P><P> </P>
 
Postado por pep em terça-feira, maio 08, 2007 - 12:10
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