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Sexo: Male
Status: Solteiro
Idade: 31
Sinal: Áries

Cidade: Los Angeles
Estado: California
País: US
Data de Inscrição: 16/2/2007
domingo, maio 06, 2007 
Friends,

I'm continuing to receive a steady stream of emails from you all, and the vast majority are supportive. However, there are a few that haven't heard the whole story and unfortunately are jumping to conclusions.

I keep getting requests from the media asking me to clarify certain contradictions in the campaign's official blog on my.barackobama.com, so I'm just going to go ahead and comment on it here.

At this point, what's done is done, and the only point of this is to learn from the mistakes made in this situation, and move on to more positive things.

Below is a copy of Joe Rospars' blog from my.barackobama.com, along with my comments in bold where key facts were either left out, or are simply misleading.

-Joe Anthony

NOTE: I have discussed this with Rospars, and although he didn't disagree, he refused to make any changes.


By Joe Rospars - May 2nd, 2007 at 7:11 pm EDT
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/rospars


There have been a lot of questions and comments in this community related to our MySpace profile, and so I wanted to come by and clarify how we got here and answer questions.

Our campaign started quickly. People around here say that this has been like building an airplane in mid-air, having already taken off. This is especially true of the New Media operation. While the campaign in general is going from zero to sixty, our team is at the same time charged with exploring the new ways we can build relationships between Barack and his supporters, and foster relationships among supporters themselves.

When it came to MySpace, we decided to take a leap. We decided to make the attempt to combine the organic support and community-building of a grassroots effort with the official campaign outreach efforts.

In many ways this mirrors what has happened on the campaign's own web site. On February 10th, the day Barack announced his candidacy in Springfield, we launched My.BarackObama.com has an unprecedented public utility for supporters.

Even on the campaign's own web site, the organizing efforts and community-building by the grassroots has outpaced the growth of the traditional campaign infrastructure. On the site, over 11,500 people have created their own blogs about everything from their issue priorities to their personal experience campaigning locally. Thousands of events have been planned using the events tool (social events, planning meetings, small fundraisers), and tens of thousands of people have RSVPed to these grassroots-driven gatherings.

And over 5,000 grassroots volunteer groups have been founded -- in many states, these groups will be the only organizational presence the campaign has. Even in the early states, staff organizers are hitting ground in places where volunteer groups have already been meeting and organizing. One of the first orders of business for new staff on the ground is getting to know the grassroots who have already started building the movement.

When it comes to MySpace, I'm not sure if a campaign of this size has ever teamed-up with a grassroots volunteer on this scale, but we wanted to give it a try.

Joe Anthony's great work was building community at the www.myspace.com/barackobama address, and so we contacted him.

At that point, the profile had about 40,000 friends, and to our delight, Joe agreed to work with us. Indeed, he seemed relieved to have some help -- he gave us the password, and we began to exchange content, work together, and continue growing this community from the ground-up. We created images that he (and others online) could post, and began going through the process of preparing the profile to be "official" by combing through the content and establishing a plan to ensure that everyone who tried to contact the campaign through the profile received an answer. (People wrote messages and comments in huge numbers, virtually all addressed to Barack or the campaign -- "Will you come speak at my graduation?", "Where do you stand on issue X?", "How can I help locally?", etc.)


Comments on the page were addressed to Barack Obama, because this was a profile in support of Obama, as were many other Obama fan-sites on Myspace. However, I kept a presence as the "moderator" and manager of this profile to avoid this confusion, and most people understood that. As new friends joined the community, some would send emails asking "Is this really you Obama", but most quickly caught on. At all times, there was a disclaimer on the page which read "This profile is not managed or endorsed by Senator Barack Obama".

The vast majority of all emails were addressed to me, Joe, as the moderator (ex. "Dear Joe, when is Obama coming to Iowa?") and I would refer them to the official website, www.barackobama.com if that info. wasn't already posted on the profile. This was always a community for Obama supporters, by an Obama supporter. I do not believe any person on that friends list, that participated in the community, would say otherwise.

In addition, the campaign really has no way of knowing what the messages said, because they only had access to the page for a very short time. With that in mind, I don't understand why they claim this in their blog.


We started talking to Joe about formalizing the arrangement, preserving his work building the community, and talking through how to preserve his involvement in the direction and development of the profile.

For a time, both the campaign and Joe had mutual access. Soon after, MySpace launched a promotional campaign to direct traffic to the official candidate pages. The campaign allowed MySpace to promote this unofficial profile because, strictly speaking, there was no official presence. And so MySpace began featuring the profile in candidate promotions -- and the friends and workload grew.

We knew Joe had a full-time job already, and, early on, we floated the idea of moving to Chicago to work for us full-time (potential staffers were moving to Chicago and join the team at that time, and there were openings). I totally agree when Chris Bowers says that the New Media/online outreach efforts of campaigns should be a priority -- and we have built an operation here in Chicago and in the early states that reflects that posture.


Chris Hughes did indicate that there were "limited staff positions available in Chicago and I could send them my resume". At this point, although I would've loved to work directly for the campaign, I was happy to continue working on the profile as I had been, and it was more of a priority to maintain my involvement in the page and not let it become like one of the other Candidates profiles. I never sent them a resume, and instead focused on building the page and finding new ways to engage the community.

There was something special happening in this Myspace community, and I did not want to see it turn into a passive source of information run by the campaign. They already had an official website (www.barackobama.com) for that, which I directed a great deal of traffic to.


But Joe seemed to prefer to volunteer part-time from the outside with the campaign to continue building the community. He said he was honored to help out, and we were honored to work with him. We worked through the complications that arose: letting Joe know that he shouldn't work on the site from work, educated him about the rules governing campaign promotion of official Senate material, etc. Joe was right with us, and things continued down the path towards making this unofficial community into an official space run with help from volunteers.


This is true, and I was honored to work with the campaign. There was some question about making this unofficial page an official one. I suggested at one point keeping it an unofficial page endorsed by the campaign and linking to it via the campaign's official website. This was a difficult and complicated situation, and I thought carefully about what would be best for the campaign and community.

As we progressed, we began to work-up paperwork that would codify this arrangement -- ensuring that the campaign would have full access (what if someone put up an obscene comment during the day while Joe was at work?), and assuming the liability burden (legally, ethically, and politically) for what happened on the site.

This is about the time I began to restrict access to the profile, and stopped providing the password to the campaign. I agreed that we should have some agreement before moving forward, and money was not an issue at this point. This was a liability issue if this were to be an official profile, not a money issue.

Further, after a closer examination of the Myspace terms of use at that time, I learned that Myspace prohibits allowing access to any user other than the creator of the page. For this reason, and for security purposes mentioned above, I decided I should cease from allowing the campaign access to the profile until we had a formal agreement (and Myspace's consent).

I did however continue to work with the campaign, and implemented every one of their suggestions for the profile. Although they did not have access to the profile for that period, they would call or email me and I would make any changes, post a bulletin or blog, or whatever they asked me to do, all on very short notice.


At the same time, though, the community had skyrocketed. Nobody expected the grassroots to respond this campaign in such large numbers the way they have, and the rapid growth of the MySpace profile once the MySpace Impact Channel began promoting the various candidates is yet another example of the appeal of Barack. We were well over 100,000 friends, and the burden of administering such a profile became immense.

Unfortunately, at that point, Joe changed the password on the profile, and didn't give us the new one, like he had done in the past. This changed the previous dynamic, and we could no longer access the profile at a moment's notice if need be. We asked Joe what was needed to restore access, and subsequently we received the list of itemized financial requests that have been discussed elsewhere.

This is misleading, and why some have gone as far to accuse me of attempting to extort the campaign.

See my previous comment. This not why I stopped providing the password. The itemized financial requests will be discussed further below.


This made us uncomfortable. Every day, MySpace was driving tens of thousands of people to the page on the premise that this was more or less our "official" presence -- yet we had no access to the content on the page, and no ability to be responsive to the thousands of messages coming in from supporters seeking information or action from the campaign.

They did have access to the page, through me. As I mentioned, once the campaign became involved in March of 2007, I implemented any and all of the campaign's suggestions, even though they did not have direct access to the profile. I cooperated with them until the very end.

Also, at all times, an 'away message' was set on the page so that users would be encouraged to contact the campaign directly via their official website. In that away message users were referred to the official site for answers to their questions not included on the Myspace profile. For suggestions regarding the Myspace profile specifically I included my email address associated with the page. I received many emails over the years, and responded to all of them, redirected them to the appropriate source, and signed off as "Joe, moderator". This was an effective system and I implemented many user suggestions, whether it be a new photo, new video, a bulletin about an event I should post, etc.

I also received hundreds, maybe even thousands of emails over the years from people thanking me for working so hard on the page. Many indicated that they didn't know much about Barack Obama prior to joining my fan-site.


We talked to Joe and made clear that we truly wanted to incorporate the community into the campaign's official presence, but that if these financial demands were a precursor to the campaign having access at all, that we would need to start with an official profile separately and have MySpace promote that instead.

This is also misleading, because it leaves something out.

Chris Hughes, in a telephone conversation, indicated that the campaign would prefer to acquire full access to the profile. They did not want an outsider managing an "official" profile, and I understood that. Chris Hughes then suggested that they could offer some type of one-time fee to transfer the profile over to the campaign. I asked him if they had any suggestion or any offer at that time, and he asked me to just think about it and we would speak the following morning. We both agreed that this fee would be largely symbolic, as it was impossible to calculate all of the time I put into it over the past couple of years.

That night, at his request, I did prepare a propsal and emailed it to Chris. I had never prepared such a proposal, and it was on very short notice, but I did the best I could. I thought about it for about 5 hours. I went for a long walk around my neighborhood and thought about what would be fair to all involved. I didn't like the idea of the campaign taking over a Myspace profile which had been a netroots phenomenon before the campaign or Myspace even got involved.

Regardless of my personal convictions, I wanted what was best for the campaign, and obviously Barack Obama, and I trusted that they knew what they were doing. For two and half years I worked very hard without ever expecting to be paid, but if they wanted to take control of this profile and take direct advantage of the community I helped to build, I thought it was fair to be paid. I even specified at that time that the fee was small enough to be cost-effective to the campaign, but large enough to be sure they were taking this community seriously. If they didn't like it, they could've easilly started and built their own Myspace profile and I would've put a link to it on mine. This appears to be what Hillary Clinton did, and it seemed to work out well.


And so it became clear that we needed to have MySpace point people at something we had at least basic access to -- immediately. In MySpace, politicians, musicians, and other public figures have the right to their own name (www.myspace.com/barackobama, www.myspace.com/hillaryclinton, etc.), and so we asked MySpace for use of that URL and to ensure that any promotion of "official" profiles for candidates be directed to the new profile our team created.

At any time, they could've asked for the URL and that wouldn't have been a problem. The campaign wanted the entire community I built and that was always clear.

After receiving my proposal, and a few postponed meetings, I was contacted by Josh Orton from the campaign. He indicated that he was "flabbergasted" by my proposal and that they did not have any budget for it. He accused me of using the profile for commercial purposes and made no counter-offer. I do not understand why Chris Hughes suggested this one-time fee, if later they had no budget for it and essentially accused me of trying to cash in.

At that time he asserted that I had two options: I could turn the profile over to the campaign, or it would be deleted immediately. I indicated that I would not turn it over to them, and it would be enormously offensive to me, and to all 160,000 members of the community to delete it after all of our hard work.

This conversation was followed up by two emails from Chris Hughes, indicating that they were sorry that I decided to "kill" this profile, and that Myspace needed my consent to transfer the profile over to them.

I responded to each email, indicating that "killing" the profile was not my decision and I would not be held responsible for it. In addition, Myspace did not have my consent to transfer the profile to anyone.

I also wrote that whatever their decision was, I would continue working on the profile until it was deleted.

Shortly afterwards, the profile was not deleted. Instead, Myspace and the campaign took control of the profile, deleted the content, and put a link to the new "official" profile. They used a community that took two and half years to build to quickly gain new 'friends' on their own page. (I'll also mention that I immediately received several emails complaining about how lame the new page is, specifically that it didn't load properly in some browsers).


The community of the 160,000 still exists, and we've made sure that MySpace will let Joe have access to the community he helped build. And we hope we can continue to work with him to make that as effective as it can be.

Myspace returned the blank profile with 160,000 friends (and quickly dropping) to me after I contacted techpresident.com and the news quickly spread throughout the Media. The campaign takes credit for this in Rospars' blog, but it was Myspace that contacted me and agreed to do this. In fact, Liba Rubenstein from Myspace indicated that the campaign would've preferred that the profile be transferred over to them without my consent, but Myspace would not allow that to happen.

The page was "taken" on Monday, and finally "returned" to me on Thursday evening. In my opinion, if I hadn't complained, my profile would've probably been transferred to them, and none of you would ever know that I had anything to do with building it.

I do not blame Myspace for any of this. It is their social-networking site. I do not blame Barack Obama himself either. However, I supported his campaign and helped out by rallying tens of thousands of supporters on Myspace and it worked exceptionally well. For Obama's campaign to try to take this profile, and later even write a blog that subtly accuses me of extortion, is the biggest slap in the face I've ever felt.

Returning a blank profile to me after the fact doesn't mend the situation. An apology just wouldn't mean much either.


At the end of the day, this is all new for everyone -- this Joe, that Joe, and everyone participating or commenting on it. We're flying by the seat of our pants, and establishing new ways of doing things every day. We're going to try new things, and sometimes it's going to work, and sometimes it's not going to work. That's the cost and that's the risk of experimenting. Joe launched this profile for all the right reasons, and for a while grew it with us.

But the ultimate purpose is building a community around the idea that ordinary people can come together and affect change in this country. Barack Obama is the candidate I believe can transform the process and make that change happen.

And, to the extent that more and more people every day come to that same conclusion, my bet is that both profiles will continue to grow.

Well, I'm offended by this rationalization, and it contradicts this entire blog. If it was acceptable for me to operate a Barack Obama fan-site on Myspace with 160,000 users, Joe Rospars' blog wouldn't exist, and none of this would've ever happened.

Barack Obama inspired me to create this profile, but the end result left me jaded enough to never publically support any candidate again.

I'm not asking for anything from Barack Obama or his campaign, but people need to know what happened here.

This profile was a place for "ordinary people to come together and affect change in this country". I worked so hard to build it because I believed in Barack Obama and wanted change as much as everyone on the profile did. Regardless of the campaign's intentions, the campaign quashed not only my right to have this profile, but the very hope that inspired me to build it.

It's a long time until the primaries, and there's a good chance I may get past this and still vote for Barack Obama. However, this should be a valuable lesson that campaigns should pay closer attention to what's really happening on the internet. We're not a list of names, and we're not inexpensive advertising. We are exactly the ordinary people you speak of, using the internet to attempt to change the world.

Sincerely,

-Joe Anthony

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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks, Brian. I think my reward came a long time ago. 
 
Postado por Joe Anthony em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 7:06
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Constitutional Republic

 
<span style="font-weight: bold;">    <span style="font-weight: bold;">It sounds to me like there was a huge misunderstanding between the campagn and you.  I agree that the campaign shoud have compensated you for your diligent work.  However, it also sounds like you wanted to maintain control over the content and were a little selfish and unreasonable in allowing the campaign access to what seemed like an official page.  The campaign deserves to have control over it's own content, and your page seemed like a part of the official voice.

Good luck in what you do.  I think you will get beyond this, and unless Obama really fucks up, O believe you will remain a supporter of his.


</span></span>
 
Postado por Constitutional Republic em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:28
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John

 
I remember it being clear to me that this was an unofficial supporter-moderated profile the first time I came across the page, actually.  It didn't seem misleading at all.

It's sad to hear that the campaign is turning into more or less what you'd expect from a modern political campaign.

 
Postado por John em segunda-feira, maio 07, 2007 - 11:58
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Thanks for clarifying. I had read the original post on Obama's page. I figured there was more to it than that so it was good to get your side. I came to MySpace right at the tail end of all this as a result of reading the techpresident article so I never got to see the community you built but just wanted to say thanks for your good work and good luck.


 
Postado por em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:28
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Jonathan

 
<P>Well, Joe, let me tip my had to you.  While I fully understand why they, from their perspective wanted (because they needed) direct access to the site, the Josh Orton episode shows me that they are likely a group of overly paranoid tight asses who had no idea what to do.  OK, this is new ground and no one really has a grasp on all this quite yet, but what they did here was pulled a power play...because they could...so they did.</P><P>You say that you may now never support a candidate publicly again.  One thing...remember that Barack Obama is human, not a god; a candidate, not a cause.  He may be 100% sincere, but't he's packaged nevertheless.  And campaigns and their staff are about top-down control.  Often with good reason, often to their detriment.</P><P>But you know what?  You became inspired by a ideal, a vision for your country.  You took an action and helped cultivate a community of, what was it, 160,000 people??  Many of whom were as idealistic as you.  But it was you who created something beautiful.  </P><P>One guy.  One guy who made a difference at this point.  And that's you.  It ain't Joe Rospars.</P>
 
Postado por Jonathan em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:30
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COMMUNITY OF MAN

 
I agree with you, Jonathan. I am very disappointed with the guys running the Obama site. I believe they did the Senator damage - through no fault of their own. The situation could have been handled so that Joe's <EM>insight</EM> would have been appreciated and the page assisted and enhanced. Some folks are endowed with vision and 'wherewithall' and some just don't have a clue. It <EM>is</EM> new ground though and I believe that the Senator was 'blindsided' by the whole issue... at any rate, he certainly now knows who Joe Anthony is. I can only hope that he did not lose many supporters because of this incident.
 
Postado por COMMUNITY OF MAN em sexta-feira, maio 11, 2007 - 9:53
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks, Jonathan.

I understand their reasons too, and maybe they thought I was such a strong supporter that I would back down.  Whether a mistake or not, it just wasn't right.

Barack Obama is only human, along with the guys in his campaign, and that's why I'm willing to get past this and still support him. My initial thought was that he lost my vote, but after the initial shock. . . it was just a mistake that we'll all get past.

I'll be looking for the next opportunity to make a change, but it just won't be for a political campaign.

 
Postado por Joe Anthony em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:38
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Rusty + Gigi
Rusty Horn

 
I'm both amazed and quite disappointed in our man Barack Obama for not doing something to alleviate this situation. He still has my vote, but I'll be hoping he gets rid of some of the assholes in his camp.
 
Postado por Rusty + Gigi em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:38
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David

 
It is VERY important that these people responsible get cleaned out of his camp.  If Obama wins, THESE are the people that will be appointed to cabinet positions, agency heads and as ambassadors.

Do you want them in positions of power within the government?

I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for Obama unless I was assured that none of the people involved with this debacle were going to get a plum political appointment.

-David

 
Postado por David em terça-feira, maio 15, 2007 - 2:48
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Sky

 
Good interview.  I hope you get a public apology.
 
Postado por Sky em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:38
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♥Lover of Mankind♥
Philena Rush

 
size="2">Wow joe.. this is really messed up.  I'm checking out my page and wondering what is this "?".... Then when I realize obama was missing, I thought, "D@#M... Obama page got hacked.  Crap!"

Now I come here and see alot worse things have happened in the last few days.  what a shame.  he lost alot of votes from myspace.


 
Postado por ♥Lover of Mankind♥ em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:39
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Oscar

 
I see WMD after the next election if these liers are not clean up from the campaign and future government. I'm with you. Feeling betrayed by the campaign, never by Joe.
 
Postado por Oscar em segunda-feira, maio 07, 2007 - 2:47
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks, Ko.



 
Postado por Joe Anthony em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:40
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Pre- Atomic War Paul
Paul Kelly

 
Joe,
   Thanks for what you did. Have you thought about starting your own political campaign? You probably wouldn't go to far, your too honest and hard working, but you should try, I'd vote for you!

As for Obama, well, he's not at all different from the rest.

 
Postado por Pre- Atomic War Paul em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:05
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Do the Right Thing, Barack

 
Joe,

Thanks so much for taking the time out to explain your perspective on all this. I think you did a great job!

I must say I am amazed at how calmly and graciously you have handled this whole ordeal. I think many people, perhaps most, would be emotionally and psychologically crushed by what you have just experienced. It is amazing how well you have held up, and how well you have handled it.

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I also wanted to toss out a quick response to your previous post about "moving on". I recognize and respect your desire to move on from this situation. It makes a lot of sense to me that you (and others) would want to put it in the past.

However, I do hope you - and others - recognize that some of us feel this is too important to walk away from. While what was done to you was/is absolutely mind-blowing and inexcusable, the overall impact of the Obama campaign's actions (IMO) extend far beyond yourself. It also extends beyond MySpace, beyond the Obama campaign, and even beyond the present. It heavily impacts the entire NetRoots Community, and also sets a very negative precedent for any and all future cooperative efforts between Official Campaigns and the NetRoots Community.

Beyond that, this is also an excellent litmus test for Senator Obama to show everyone that he really is different. That he will not try to sweep his staff's screw-ups under the rug, and pretend they didn't happen. That he will hold his people accountable for their actions. That he will take responsibility for his, and his staff's, actions -- and he will do what is necessary to fix whatever mess they (or he) have made. That he really is worthy of being trusted with the role of Leader of the Free World. Or ... not.

Unfortunately, so far with this situation, he's failing. I do hope he gets tuned in soon, though, so he can fix it before it gets any bigger. It seems likely it won't become a bigger issue for you. But, as more and more people hear about how his campaign (not necessarily Senator Obama, but his campaign staff) screwed you over, more and more people are going to start screaming about it - about him saying he's different, but not living it.

So, with that said, while I do recognize and respect your decision to "move on". I, also, hope that you will recognize and respect that some of us feel this issue is far too important to simply walk away from.

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I wish you all the best, and look forward to staying tuned to what you do next!

-DtRTB


 
Postado por Do the Right Thing, Barack em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:06
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adam

 

I must agree that this is bigger than simply obama.  This is a precedent being set that allows corporations and individuals who are registered as corporations to usurp the hard work of the unnamed "bloggers" or whatever you want to call the internet personas that build the information highway.  This move causes significant damage to the information revolution in which individuals can disseminate their views. 

Unfortunately it's a punch in the nose from the left, which means that liberal groups like the aclu aren't going to do anything about it, and of course more conservative groups can't help out because they'll be attacked as devisive and partisan (and they're more focused on saving free speech on the radio and it's not like they owe anything to the liberal internet bloggers in the first place).

To me this is actually a good test of obama's insight into the evolving world, not just an expression of his feelings towards the grassroots explosion that is the whole reason he's running for president today.  My personal opinion is that the internet could be the beginnings of our global conciousness.  Perhaps not in the form we're used to, but the steps we take today determine the land that we'll find in the future. 

As crazy and uncontrollable as the internet is, it should not be allowed to become subserviant to the whims of corporate influence and money.  I would argue that any presidential candidate is in fact a singularity of corporate influence and money in its purest form.

For there to be harmony it is important for the leaders to trust the people and vice-versa. 

--adam


 
Postado por adam em sábado, maio 12, 2007 - 12:03
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~*♥Mrs. Expecting Speaker♥*~

 
The more his campaign writes/talks about this situation, the more angry I get with them. They had no right at all to do the things they did...and then to post a blog making them look like the victims...how dare they do that. I'm writing you in on my ballot Joe Anthony ;)
 
Postado por ~*♥Mrs. Expecting Speaker♥*~ em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:06
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Triple 6 Soul

 
I sympathize with your situation.  It's a thankless task, and even though I'm not supporting Barack Obama, I appluad what you did.  This is just another case of David losing to Goliath.  Peace out and vote for Hiliary Clinton!
 
Postado por Triple 6 Soul em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:36
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LIVE EVIL

 
<P>Thanks for explaining it in this manor Joe.  It gives a direct response to each inaccuracy of the campaign.  It's great that you're able to forgive and not hold Obama responsible.  I guess I'm not as good of a person as you.  I intend to shift all my support to Biden until the Primary, then of course support whomever takes the Primary.</P><P>Best Wishes Joe!</P>
 
Postado por LIVE EVIL em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:36
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KevinW.© Official Fan Page

 
size="3">I was a friend to the page back when it only had a couple of thousand friends. It was always very obvious that it was a supporter page and not an official one. An official one didn't even exist!!! I was surprised about that, being from Illinois and knowing how popular he is. You did provide a link to the website and you are/were? a very idealistic man for having done all of this.

"No good deed goes unpunished." The flipside to that is that Barack doesn't have anywhere near 160,000 friends on his new page, and his new page is *NOT* special
like yours was.

Thank you, *JOE ANTHONY* for telling the true story. I hope that you posted your
response on their power-hungry blog response which defames you and has grossly minimized your immense efforts.
Also, thank you for having the balls to stand up and tell the truth and not be ran over like yesterdays newspaper on the street.
This page and your personal page will remain among my friends!
Sincerely,
KevinW.Mattingly
Illinois.

 
Postado por KevinW.© Official Fan Page em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 4:37
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Do the Right Thing, Barack

 
Anyone who is interested can help spread the word about Joe's response by "Digging" this story @ http://digg.com/politics/Joe_Anthony_Responds_to_Obama_MySpace_Comments
 
Postado por Do the Right Thing, Barack em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:00
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Kay

 
Joe, I knew you weren't the money hungry, cashing in, selling out type person that the campaign and their blog was making you out to be. I have a lot of respect for you.......you have shown decency, class and character. In my opinion, the campaign thought once they got the url and profile that all 160,000 friends would automatically be transferred over to their "official" myspace page in an instant....."ching ching"......all of your hard work, dedication, and support would be their gain. It tricked me at first....until I realized the truth. They will have to earn every one of their friends from now on....just like you did over the past 2 and a half years. Best wishes to you.
 
Postado por Kay em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:01
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Thanks Patti, and thanks to all of you.

I really didn't expect all you to stand up and support me like this. It's just amazing.



 
Postado por Joe Anthony em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:03
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Joe Anthony
Joe Anthony

 
Come on, be nice. 
 
Postado por Joe Anthony em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:13
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marshall
Marshall Hisaw

 
<P>Joe-keep on keepin on! You did a great thing here.  Good things happen to good people! This whole situation has made a lot of people who were caught up in the whole "grass roots"  step back and take a second look.  Maybe thats a good thing.  </P>
 
Postado por marshall em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:17
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JohnnyDiva
Johnny Diva

 
<P>I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that read, "I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney then ride with Ted Kennedy."</P><P>Politics is a dirty profession.  We all have a romantic view that in a democracy if everyone does his/her part, the machine runs smoothly.  You did more civic service than most people would have.  The compensation ploy was probably something contrived to make you out to be a profiteer if the transition to them didn't go as planed.  If you had really been in it for the money -- I doubt you would have stuck with it for as long as you did.  </P>
 
Postado por JohnnyDiva em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:25
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<P>I can't believe that they would do this! I would be so upset to have my hard work flushed down the drain like that! Barack Obama's campain should know that they HAD my vote...... and, I don't see them getting my vote back! If our counrty's leadership were to fall in Obamas' hands, is he just going to seize what ever he wants when he wants.... THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE WORSE THAT BUSH! Ohh, well.. that's my opinion... My feelings go out to you Joe... I can relate to what you must have felt...</P>
 
Postado por em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:48
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<p>"Joe launched this profile for all the right reasons, and for a while grew it with us."</p><p>
I think he meant to say "Grew it <span style="font-style: italic;">for</span> us". It's like you pitched a no-hitter into the 9th inning and they wanted to come in and get the last out. I know you did a ton of work on the profile and I appreciated it. Thanks.
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Postado por em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:51
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i am speechless! i am 22 and this is the first time i have been involved in a campaign. and i am heavily involved at that! i am a single mom and full time student and i still give all my "free-time" to the Obama campaign. even with the little work i have put into this (well its a lot to me but it is very little compared to what you have done) but i would be outraged! i have so much respect for you for how you have acted and reacted through all of this! i will support you and this site always! i do still support Obama, i do volunteer work for him everyday, but today as i was talking to people at my Obama-booth at the cinco de mayo festival, i found myself thinking about this situation and was just very upset! my first campaign, and although i will stick with it, this will be my last campaign!  i wish you the very best...and i mean that from my heart! - Ashley
 
Postado por em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 5:53
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Do the Right Thing, Barack

 
FYI ... I posted a link to Joe A's response on MyDD here and as a comment on Joe Rospars' original blog post (on My.BarackObama.com) here. I also submitted it as a story to Slashdot, but am not sure it will make it through to their homepage. I don't yet have an active account on Daily Kos or any of the other sites that would be interested.

-DtRTB 
 
Postado por Do the Right Thing, Barack em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 6:05
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Wes

 
Hey if this candidate's cainpaign can go in and just take over a profile what is to keep him from being another Bush down the line and just put a wiretap on whoever they want.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Obama just lost my vote.</span>

 
Postado por Wes em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 6:05
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Deva

 
I AGREE WITH THAT!  WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP!
 
Postado por Deva em segunda-feira, maio 07, 2007 - 2:36
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Keith

 
Joe, what you did was commendable and you were performing a public service.  Most public servants are remunerated for their work, and there's no reason that you shouldn't have been either.  I feel you were shafted and I hope you can get past this and that you won't lose your elan for taking part in American politics.
 
Postado por Keith em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 6:07
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they will quickly realize the error in their ways friend, with out shadow of a doubt. it will be reflected, i'm sure, in the results in their "campaigning abilities".
 
Postado por em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 6:08
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Emily

 
The more I read about this, the more I am impressed with your cool head and quiet sense of dignity. Keep doing what you're doing, my friend, you'll get through this. I am pretty disappointed in Obama's campaign, and sincerely wish he would speak out about this. Because, as you said, these are real people, not just cheap advertising, and each time they deny you compensation, or the rights to all the hard work you've put in over the years, they lose another one of us. It's a foolish, typical political move and it's sad, because I believed they were better than that.

I came to my support of Obama largely through your page. So take all that great energy and tranfer it to another worthy cause. It deserves you.
 
Postado por Emily em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 6:39
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Papa2Girls

 
Lovin Life, I think I was getting ready to write some worthwhile ~ highly intelligent ~ deeply thought-out ~ respectful yet bordering angry thoughts here on the subject as I have in many places on the Internet since MySpaceGate transpired and then ....... your smile stopped me in my tracks and I lost all train of thought of what I was going to write.        Thanks, I needed that today........
 
Postado por Papa2Girls em sexta-feira, maio 11, 2007 - 7:47
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Cameron

 
That you were politically so inspired initially and then so turned off by the end of the ordeal is ironic - it went full circle. I guess that's the extremes of politics (inspiration and apathy) - all condensed into two quick years and one person's story. Again, you have handled this so well, especially considering your newness to the game. And we all appreciate the hard work you have put into this - even if the campaign didn't. You have inspired many of us, whether you can believe that or not. I think taking the high road as you are doing is the best way to fight the ugly force that has caused so many people to lose political hope in this country. People can learn from this, and stay strong, and most importantly, still have hope.

Take care of yourself.
 
Postado por Cameron em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 7:03
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Chissolossi's on Igotitforthelow.com
Ayanna Fountain

 
<P>this whole thing is pushing me to hillary. but its making me pay more attention to whats going on.</P>
 
Postado por Chissolossi's on Igotitforthelow.com em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:53
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Serah

 
<p class="MsoNormal">It's absolutely ridiculous that the campaign didn't present a counter financial offer; it may well be that your offer was unreasonable--but how would you know? As you said, you've never done this kind of thing before, and I don't think this situation has ever really existed before.

Several years ago, I started volunteering on a congressional campaign, and when it got to the point that I was spending more time there then at my job, I asked if they might be able to help me out a little--and though they had no job openings for which I qualified, they immediately began giving me a stipend. I was 17 years old, had no particularly useful skills, and certainly hadn't built a community of thousands for the campaign. I just can't believe that in a presidential campaign, with a budget of millions, there isn't any money to give you some kind of symbolic compensation for all you've done.

I also think it's silly for anyone to claim that people thought your site was really Obama. That's basically saying the MySpace community of Obama supporters is comprised of illiterate idiots. Every once in a <span style="font-style: italic;">great</span> while it looked like there were comments addressed directly to Obama, but for the most part comments were addressed to the community or to you directly. I communicated with several people through your site who posted comments inquiring about Obama's positions on things...and they always asked things like "Does anyone know what Obama thinks of...?" never "Hey Obama, what do you think of...?"

It must be so frustrating and heartbreaking for you after all the time and passion you put into the great work you did...but you've proven that you have a lot of talent, and I have no doubt you will be very successful in whatever you undertake next.</p>
I don't plan to become "friends" with the new official site. I realize it may be a small and/or petty gesture on my part, but frankly, I'm pissed. I still support Obama, I will still vote for Obama, and I will still participate in the unofficial Obama communities I come across, but I don't feel like rewarding the campaign in any way for this nonsense.

 
Postado por Serah em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:54
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Joshua
Joshua Gage

 
<P>Hey will you run for president you seem to know what you are doing.</P><P>Thanks,</P><P>Joshua</P>
 
Postado por Joshua em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:54
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☆stefani☆

 
I do not feel this was Myspace's fault, nor Barack Obama's, but his campaign staff. Just like another person said a few comments up, it just makes you pay more attention to what's going on. I'm still a supporter of Obama, but TRUST ME, my eyes are wide open! Hey Joe, did you see the morning news this morning with Tom and the other Co-Founder of Myspace rgarding this? It was on ABC at 3:15am Central time this morning.... ((why I was still awake I'm still not sure, but it was an interesting interview))
 
Postado por ☆stefani☆ em sexta-feira, maio 11, 2007 - 7:36
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cεηsor1 [172k]
DanieL Add Me

 
They said, "The campaign allowed MySpace to promote this unofficial profile because, strictly speaking, there was no official presence."
Does anyone believe that? I think the truth would be more like. "The campaign allowed MySpace to promote this unofficial profile because, strictly speaking, there was over 160,000 contacts on the list"

Good luck Joe, Obama and Myspace ripped you off.
 
Postado por cεηsor1 [172k] em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:54
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Bird from Jerz....LB That Is
Monica Randell

 
<P>Joe, I have supported you throughout this whole ordeal.  I guess your explanation was necessary for some, but I really didn't need it.  I will say that I always thought the page was the official campaign page, but that is because I have only been a friend for a couple of months (which was apparently AFTER Barack's team became involved).  I was one of those people who you directed to Barack's official web site and stupid me was confused by that.</P><P>I don't think you did anything wrong here.  One of my favorate R&B/Jazz artists, Kem, has no presence on MySpace and I have often thought about creating a page for him as I know the value of MySpace and clearly Kem does not, but I didn't think I could do it justice because I don't know what the heck I am doing when it comes to manipulating web content.  You did Barack justice and HE did you an injustice.</P><P>I know we keep saying his people, but they are an extension of him so it is him.  I am no longer a Barack supporter as a result of this whole debacle, but like you I may wind up voting for him in the end as I have to vote for someone.  Right now I am weighing all the options and will vote for the candidate that I feel is most is line with my values.  Barack is not the special guy we all thought he was and clearly he is not the inexperienced politician the political analysts are accusing him of being.  He is just like every other politician; full of dodo.</P><P>I can only imagine what it feels like to be stomped on by such a powerful political machine that you seem to have believed in and that is what hurts me most.  Please know that I feel your pain and disappointment, but this too shall pass.  You are going to be just fine and you keep doing what you do.</P>
 
Postado por Bird from Jerz....LB That Is em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:55
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Pat

 
<P>Hey Joe, thanks for clarifying so rationally it really helps. I understand it isn't the fault of myspace and Barack Obama himself but I do think the campaign have really messed things up and made fools of themselves, and hugely exascerbated the situation by trying to scapegoat you as an individual. That attitude is quite frankly immature and petty, and I just want you to know you have my complete support. I'm from the UK and the myspace site was my first port of call for any sort of Barack Obama info, and I am sad to see it go.</P><P>I will not be adding the new 'official profile' and will put all my support behind whatever you decide is right for the new profile.</P><P>You've acted with responsibility and maturity throughout this whole fiasco. Well done, it seems to be more than most other people have.</P><P>Keep optimistic, and thank you.</P>
 
Postado por Pat em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 2:59
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Patrick
Patrick Hammon

 
Keep the grassroots movement alive my friend!
 
Postado por Patrick em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:00
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Kat

 
<P>   LOTS OF HUGS FOR YOU!!!! </P><P> </P><P>Stress like this sucks</P>
 
Postado por Kat em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:00
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C
christian robinson

 
i see your side of this but i'm a bit skeptical honestly. you never mention what your asking price was, and you present the assumption that the campaign did have the money and they were just being cheap. frankly speaking, if i were running a campaign and in their situation i would've made you an offer and if your offer was way too high then i'd say screw it.  we'll make one for free and we have the right to the name anyway. it's easy to create a sob story along the lines of "poor me, i was just trying to do some good and i got screwed by the big nasty powers that be" and by the response you've received many are all too eager to get on that bandwagon. that is what is wrong with this country. too many people put entirely too much stock into bullshit. utter bullshit. a non profit organization didn't want to pay you for making a myspace profile, so what? there are people dying all over the world, many of whom don't know what myspace is and you want some money.  get over yourself. imo your ego is what caused this "misunderstanding" and you were due for this wake up call. you and your commiserating friends should focus your energy into real issues that affect ordinary people. like the fact that myspace is run by newscorporation, a media conglomerate that is trying to buy the frigging dowjones! do something about that joe!
 
Postado por C em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:01
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Papa2Girls

 
<P>C, you obviously have not read the whole story and are not familiar with all the facts by your response here.  Short and sweet and to the point, TeanObama ASKED Joe to make an offer THEN he did and when they didn't like it they DID NOT make any attempt at a counter offer and went into imminent domain mode and talked MySpace into taking the site from him.  Then an OFFICIAL campaign EMPLOYEE from TeamObama went into attack mode on barackobama.com and called Joe into question about his motives with a misleading blog about the events.  This was done obviously under the guise of trying not to look like they were just being the bully.  Then it continued on with Joe being called an extortionist and cybersquatter.  Some people just want the bigger toys no matter what...............</P><P>~another average joe</P>
 
Postado por Papa2Girls em terça-feira, maio 15, 2007 - 5:56
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Island Momma

 
Joe - I don't know what to say other than offer my continued response.  I feel horrible for all that you have endured after all that you have done. You have built Osama's myspace presence into what it is today.  Yes, he is a phenomenal person all on his own, but you brought him to OUR community; the internet, the myspace community. I am, like others here today, appalled at his campaigns treatment of you.  You deserve better.  I hope you demand better.  Because if we are not our own self advocates, who will be?  Joe,  you have done so much for Obama...maybe he is worthy maybe he is not. I am sure he is more worthy than others.  Let's hope he proves himself so.  I want to see Barack Obama personally thank you for all that YOU have done for his compaign.  And again, muchos kudos for standing tall and strong and supporting your beliefs even when others combined against you.  You are truly an inspirations.  Good luck to you Joe, you deserve it.
 
Postado por Island Momma em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:01
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eugene
Eugene Keselman

 
<P>Hey Joe:</P><P>I am amazed by the overwhelming support you and the Obama site has recieved, probably more than the official site! Have you decied what to do with our myspace community that already has the drama behind us and something we can all say we were a part of, i mean we all joined for a good cause then got screwed and now i think we can all do better and given the situaion are all motivated and captivated by the scenario. This i think gives us (i know me) even more will and ambition to go even further. I know its alot of work but we all can contribute surely there are trusted friends of the old Obama site that can pitch in, i will volunteer what do you say? </P>
 
Postado por eugene em domingo, maio 06, 2007 - 3:34
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