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Gender: Male
Age: 41
City: Sydney
State: New South Wales
Country: AU
Signup Date: 3/1/2007
Friday, August 10, 2007 

Current mood:  contemplative
Category: MySpace

Damn! It's been quite a month of controversy on MySpace.

In case you haven't logged onto MySpace in about six weeks, there've been a few major scandals going on. There was the Kendal scandal, the Frey scandal and the worst of them all (in my opinion) the "Pray for Todd" scandal. (Please don't make me elaborate on the details... ask in the comments if you need more info.)

Meanwhile, I was aware of a number of "lower-to-zero" profile mini-scandals, mostly involving MySpace romances where one party was spinning a line of total (ahem) "fantasy" to the other.

Which has led me to wonder about the reality of MySpace and the purpose/nature of MySpace friendships (and *shudder* MySpace "romances").

Now you can certainly have "net-friends" - I've got a large number of them. These are people I exchange the odd email with, and I have a rough awareness of their life and circumstance. They often read my blogs or I read theirs. If the opportunity ever arose I'd love to meet these people.

I don't allow myself to regard these people as "real" friends, however. The dividing line for me between a "net-friend" and a "real friend" is VERIFIABILITY. All of the scandals (major and minor) that I've seen unfold recently involved a failure to verify before getting emotionally attached.

So let me establish some basic ground rules for living in the virtual MySpace world.

Manning's First Law of MySpace: Do not get emotionally involved with someone you've never met. Curiosity is OK (but subject to the second law).
Manning's Second Law of MySpace: Do not even become curious about someone who's existence you can't verify.

How do you verify someone on MySpace? Photos are a good place to start. If there is a photo of a person with someone you actually know, then you are on very solid ground. If you can see an image of someone you're curious about with someone else that you can contact independently, there's a fair chance that is still a real person.

For example, I've never met the MySpace blogger Wayno.

I've read his stuff, I've exchanged emails with him on a number of occasions, and I am aware that he is a mid-30's guy living in Boston. But regardless of having never met him, I'm 100% certain that Wayno is a real person and that what he is telling me is the truth. This is because I've met Wayno's real-life girlfriend (and MySpace Blogger Queen) Stephanie.

Following on, I know that Stephanie and Damn Girl correspond regularly but have never met. However I can link the two of them together via photos, and hence I can vouch that they are both very "real".

More examples - the well-known bloggers Laura (Casteroni) and Paul (Devil's Advocate) also exchange emails regularly, and I can connect them too:

I could go on... I've regularly corresponded with, but have never met Jenna. However I have met Daniel (Rosjian) and he has met Jenna, so I now regard Jenna as a real (and 'verified') person. I can name plenty more, but you get the idea.

The bottom line is, if you can find a way to verify people, all the better. If you are starting to become emotionally attached to someone (especially if that attachment is romantic in nature), then it is mandatory.

Verification is also great when you hear things that should raise suspicion. In the Todd/Chad  case, Chad allegedly had a private jet that he was flying around the country on. If that sort of stuff doesn't raise alarm bells, well it should.

Likewise, if some random guy tells you he's just landed a three-month role in a major television series, I'd be really skeptical... unless of course the guy happens to be the Devil's Advocate, because I can then vouch that it is true.

As you can see, verification is a useful thing.

It's not always going to be possible - I've got a MySpace friend in Finland (Miss Mirelle) who I enjoy corresponding with but don't see any way of getting to know in person any time soon. I've spoken on the phone with SuperJabs but missed out on meeting him this time around. It doesn't mean that I don't trust these people as such, but I maintain a certain sense of detachment from them that I don't have with the I know or can verify. (And if I put any effort into it, I could probably find a mutual contact and verify Jabs fairly quickly).

But the Kendal and Todd situations arose because a lot of people got attached to someone where this verification never happened, and they got burned. In the Todd situation, a lot of genuine, caring people had their natural empathy and kindness exploited by a manipulative hoaxer, and those people did NOT deserve that.

So to cut it all short - Keep it Real, people. As best you can.


The Kevin Bacon Element. While in Sacramento, it was pointed out to me that with all of these meetings and photos I am becoming the "Kevin Bacon" of MySpace - in other words I can connect large groups of people on MySpace to each other. If you aren't familiar with this subject, there is a theory that every actor in the world can be connected eventually to actor Kevin Bacon.

Adapting this idea, we find that anyone who has met me in person has a "Manning Number" of 1 (M1), and anyone who has met someone who has met me has a "Manning Number" of 2 (M2), and so on. Anyone in a photo with me gets this changed to "MP1", and anyone in a photo with someone who has "MP1" gets "MP2", etc.

After scanning my friends list, I concluded that I have 140+ MySpace friends that I have met in person, so they all have M1 status. I'm not sure how many people I've been photographed with, but I'm guessing more than that (allowing group shots) and they all get an MP1.

So if you are prepared to accept the fact that I am real, then anyone who has met me can also be trusted to be real (to at least a degree), and any photo you see of a person with an MP number can be trusted as well.

Questions
How best to go about validating someone's existence?
When do you need to?
Who's got an M or MP number?
What's the highest MP number out there?
Has anyone got a photo from my trip that I don't know about?

PS - I recently modified my Top Friends to only include people I knew in real life. A number of folks got miffed at that, but it was nothing personal and I'm sorry if anyone got offended :)

 

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Phuong

 
First comment???
 
Posted by Phuong on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:29 PM
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Intrinsically Beautiful

 
sorry about blogdicking...but I have no idea about these scandals...where would one go to read up on these happenings?
 
Posted by Intrinsically Beautiful on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 09:46 PM
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Sssssteph

 
The last comment is Some Young Guy is Not real.
He is a figment of our imagination
 
Posted by Sssssteph on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:30 AM
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Checkout Chick

 
I can verify that SLG is REAL!!! and quite cute too... just young...

I am going to be in Tampa and NY in two weeks, so I can meet anyone who wants to be 'verified' :-)

Going to Paris as well, but I can't see any frenchies in this blog...
 
Posted by Checkout Chick on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 06:49 AM
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Manning

 
Carey Lenehan lives in France. But she's a cat.
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:32 PM
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Carey Lenehan

 
Miaow.
Hey, why ya pickin on me ya Aussie asshole!! Would that be because I'm an MP0? I refer you to the answer I gave on page 42

I'm really not a cat, I just think cats are prettier than I am, but then, I just spent the evening down at our local bar fending off a drunk Dutchman, so I guess it's possible I'm not as ugly as I think I am.

What I need Manning to tell me, seeing as how he's the muse, is why I hate the way I look so much that I assume everyone else will do too?

Cure me of my low self esteem, and I'll post my photo on Myspazz.

BTW I do live in France and I do seem to have a lot of cats, but none of them live in the house with me and I'm definitely NOT one of those wierd cat lady persons.... ;)
XXC
 
Posted by Carey Lenehan on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 12:12 AM
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Just Plain Kat

 
Ah, dear Carey. You have been blessed with the, at times, unfortunate ability to be able to read people too well. As a result, you are severely influenced by the untoward thoughts they have of you, which are simply a result of fear, not of any real reflection on who you are. (See =DA's= latest blogs for what I'm referring to...)

These ideas are manifestations of their own fears, and have nothing, if anything, to do with you. But you know as well as I do that EVERYONE has been the victim of other people's fears. Every time we're told we're fat, stupid, ugly, untalented, unskilled etc, that person is simply releasing their fears onto us. It is very hard not to take it personally. But deep down, there is a little bit of you that fights against the bullying, that says "I don't deserve this", and that knows what a special person you are.

That special person comes out all the time in your poetry. And I see you acknowledge that too. Now it's just a matter of feeding that same positivity into the other parts of your life. Because you wouldn't be the same wonderful person you are without all of the experiences that have shaped you for the past 40 odd years. Love of cats and scorn of profile pics included.

xx
 
Posted by Just Plain Kat on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 02:05 AM
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Carey Lenehan

 
Awww, Kat, you sweet. :) ...and wise, and perceptive, and soon to be Miss Universe.... ;)

XXC
 
Posted by Carey Lenehan on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 09:46 AM
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Just Plain Kat

 
Yes I am!

x
 
Posted by Just Plain Kat on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 06:37 AM
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Pixel

 
Miaow Carey & Kat!

I'm real! an I have a MP2 status * about 15 people. Andy & others have met us both.

I think there should be a P-number. It is more interesting to meet a cat who blogs and talks!

But then again, I might be biased!
 
Posted by Pixel on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:01 PM
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Checkout Chick

 
I can meet a cat!

I accept all forms of life as my friends!
 
Posted by Checkout Chick on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 06:44 PM
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Carey Lenehan

 
Refer you to my answer to your answer on page something or other.... (3?).

If you are seriously going to be in Paris on the 30th for a few days, we could actually meet up on the Saturday (even though it's six hours drive from where I live in France!) as am going to UK on the 1st and would normally be bypassing the BP (Paris Ringroad) at 2am. However, wouldn't complain at the opportunity for an afternoon/evening/breakfast drink in the 'Capitol' on the Sat evening or Sun morning.

However, if it's just for Myspazz purposes, I honestly don't care if people think I'm real or not. My poetry speaks for itself...

:) XXC
 
Posted by Carey Lenehan on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 12:26 AM
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Checkout Chick

 
I love meeting people Carey!

I am going to be in Paris, but also I will be in Saintes for a few days, not sure if that is closer?

I have never been to France, and I am staying with my best friend who lives there, and we are definitely up for a drink!!!!

I will email you with the details of my timing in a day or two, when it is locked down...

:-)

CC
 
Posted by Checkout Chick on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 12:07 PM
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Carey Lenehan

 
Look forward to the email.
Will have two kids in tow (one mine and one someone elses) plus a lot of back-to-school style luggage so probably best to meet early eveningish. Anywhere in Paris is okay. All I need is a street address for a cafe or bar near to your hotel or whereever you will have been that day (sightseeing?) Eiffel Tower is always good as there is lots of backstreet parking nearby but out of the centre is also fine. We can verify each other!
Come without preconceptions! ;) XXC
 
Posted by Carey Lenehan on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 11:29 AM
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Phuong

 
Yep, Really is indeed the real thing! :P And she *is* sane! (well...compared to me anyways) ;)
 
Posted by Phuong on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:07 AM
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Manning

 
Well she can pick me up from the airport then. I need someone to give me a ride.
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:20 AM
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Checkout Chick

 
When you getting back???
 
Posted by Checkout Chick on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:43 AM
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yonder

 
Curses! Foiled again!

That's what I get for reading :)
 
Posted by yonder on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:29 PM
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yonder

 
First (still reading)
 
Posted by yonder on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:29 PM
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Amzy

 
'twas a game for a while. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon. You get your own game! But...I can't verify you, so you are not real. Hmm.
 
Posted by Amzy on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:30 PM
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Manning

 
Well there's the problem...

I've got a weight of numbers of people I have met though. Phuong (first comment above) I know in person. Yonder I've never met, but I've met Hostile 17 and he's met Yonder...

Does that count in my verification?
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:35 PM
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Amzy

 
Having only met 4 people on myspace in reality, my verification circle is very small. But I know I am real. The rest of you are phony.
 
Posted by Amzy on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 02:25 AM
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Syd Andy

 
Hmph. You are entitled to your reality.

Even if it is wrong.

heheh I just realised your profile pic is a profile pic!

If you know what I mean!

:D
 
Posted by Syd Andy on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:27 PM
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Manning

 
Well I'v narrowed you down to three possible people, and as your profile pic is a ink question mark I'm having trouble gettng it precise...

Come to the party on the 18th and say hello again :)
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:37 PM
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Manning

 
You will, and if the common friend is Paul - well that doesn't help me at all LOL

The half-profile pic didn't help much, sorry. Have we only met the once (at Anzac day) or have we met more often?
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:08 AM
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Manning

 
Well I just needed a bit more info.

NOW I know who you are. (The hat was all I needed.) And yes I know Matt and Phuong and Garry and Kris obviously.
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:32 AM
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Manning

 
So are you picking me up from the airport then?

Hehe :)
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:41 AM
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Do I know you?

:P
 
Posted by on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:32 AM
Darth Tater

 
Personally, I thought you looked a bit plastic when I met you but that may have been the margaritas talking.
 
Posted by Darth Tater on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:32 PM
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Manning

 
Do I know you?
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:40 PM
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Darth Tater

 
Not really, no. I'm an MP5000.
 
Posted by Darth Tater on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:46 AM
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Manning

 
Cool! As in the phone system or the notebook computer?

(Don't try to out-geek a geek)
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 12:50 AM
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Darth Tater

 
As in the Mintronix all in one touch computer system. DUH!

I don't know of anyone who could out-geek you, Manning.
 
Posted by Darth Tater on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 01:28 AM
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Manning

 
I'm flattered.

I think.
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:47 PM
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Syd Andy

 
Heheh I bet I do.

Possibly even without counting my Uni lecturers :P
 
Posted by Syd Andy on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 05:27 PM
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yonder

 
As for verification, you seem to have it down.

I'm an M2. I've met Tater, and Tater's met you. Good times. I feel special.
 
Posted by yonder on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:32 PM
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Manning

 
Post a pic with Tater and you'll be an MP2
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:40 PM
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yonder

 
Oh HELL YES. You hear that Jen?
 
Posted by yonder on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:12 AM
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yonder

 
YES!YES!YES!



MP2!

I'M A CELEBRITY!!!!!!!!!! w00h00!
 
Posted by yonder on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 04:14 AM
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Darth Tater

 
Really, You could have found a better one to post. e-gads!
 
Posted by Darth Tater on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 08:33 PM
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A Work in Progress

 
I am blissfully unaware of said myspace dramas I'm afraid...

However, I do feel the urge to throw in my two cents here.

I recently flew to LA to meet an 'unverified' myspazz friend-turned-romantic-attachment-kinda-sorta. It was great. HE is great. I was warned by many many people both online and in RL that what I was doing was insane and against all reason. But you know what? Fuck that! If you trust your instinct (and I do), take your time (and we did) why should one not step outside the comfort zone once in a while? You never know what you might find. I found someone whose weirdnessess complement my own :) and am happy as a happy thing on national Happy Day. So there :P
 
Posted by A Work in Progress on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:32 PM
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A Work in Progress

 
but then again...maybe I'm not real...

not sure if I am verifiable. hmmm.
 
Posted by A Work in Progress on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:35 PM
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Manning

 
Hey - I know of other stories where it worked out, so I'm not saying it's hopeless.

But the majority of stories I hear are fairly negative, sadly.
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:39 PM
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Manning

 
Well another trip will be planned no doubt... but I'm not setting foot in canada in the wintertime. I'll die.
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:49 PM
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Amzy

 
If you are avoiding Canadian winter, you can only visit in the last week of July and the first week of August. But you are really missing out, think snowmobile!
 
Posted by Amzy on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:13 AM
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Checkout Chick

 
I still didn't make it on your Top Friends and you met me!!!

Boo Hoo...
 
Posted by Checkout Chick on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:34 PM
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Manning

 
I'll fix that...
 
Posted by Manning on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:38 PM
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*whiterhino* (alias Jennie)

 
I'm not there either...sniff...

and now I can't come to the party (unless you want to put it off another week...;)

MP1...
 
Posted by *whiterhino* (alias Jennie) on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 11:59 PM
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=The Devil's Advocate=

 
Aww, you just Photoshopped me in there!!

BTW, thanks for blowing my cover. I was attempting to be a fake person and now everyone KNOWS I'm real......

Doh!

Can I plug my six degrees game, can I huh, can I? It was SOOOO long ago...

(Call me if you need a lift from the airport, I have wheels at the mo')
 
Posted by =The Devil's Advocate= on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:31 AM
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Manning

 
I get in at 8AM on Wed morning. If you aren't shooting, a lift would be great.

Plug the six degrees game. Always.
 
Posted by Manning on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 03:33 PM
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