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October 20, 2009 - Tuesday 
Why cant something like this work?

US HealthCare Program

The Price Paid Per Year:
$1,000 - ages 30 to 55
$750 - ages 25-30 and 55-60
$500 - ages 18-25 and 60-65
$100 - ages 16-18 and 65-70
FREE for under 16 and over 70

For indigent or those making less than say $18,000
give discounts that must be reviewed each year
the use of non-profits to provide for these cases


What You Get Each Year:
18 visits to doctor
36 visits to nurse
4 visits to psychologist/counselor
4 visits to CAM therapist: chiro, accupuncture, massage, etc
4 visits to nutritionist
4 visits to specialists: endocrinologist, hemeatologist
2 full health physicals
4 Teeth cleanings
6 cbcs
4 cmps
4 specific blood tests (thyroid, liver, etc)
Flu Vaccine
First Aide/CPR course
1 education class a month (12 total: areas such as nutrition, exercise, meditation, etc)
Youth Vaccines are covered
30% ER coverage if client has been using health care system else only 10%
Any person (US or other) may join system- in order to receive benefits must pay full amount
All the "$4/free" meds that stores offer now would be able to be covered for free. All other medications read below.

How It Is Paid:
Each person responsible to pay amount by April 30th each year to receive benefits
OR
ALL Insurance plans are required to add this fee into their coverage and then pay into the US HealthCare Program


National Database:
A national databse would be needed BUT ONLY to be able to share following information:
Name, address, contact information, date of birth, whether they have paid the health fee, whether they have additional insurance coverage.



The Issues/Questions:

Why those tests/numbers: Needs research but the concept is that with those blood tests a large number of illnesses/diseases/etc can be diagnosed. Combining the doctors roles with nurses, allied health practitioners, and education ideally will decrease major problems while providing a relief of the "now uninsured."

Medicare/Medicaid: basically would disolve these two programs into the US HealthCare Program. May be able to increase the coverage for elderly, very young, and/or indigent but here would be call for non-profits.

Insurance: Require that all insurance companies must pay in for every insured the amount due to the HealthCare Program. Every insurance company must offer light/basic plans that are available to individuals in addition to the "group plans". Recommend that insurance companies offer across state line plans, plans based on field of work, etc that can cater to the situations most apt to arise for those individuals. Can NOT deny coverage due to pre-existing condition, but may add fees for those who do not take advantage of the HealthCare Program.  Because this will not cover everything it is not a "competition" and ideally can enable insurance companies to offer better, more concise, and unique plans.

Businesses: I would not "require" companies to pay this fee for their workers however perhaps there could be either:
tax benefit if they do pay
insurance companies offer 'HealthCare Program" only plans
Issue arrises of dismissed or short-term employees what to do, again reason for not requiring companies to pay this.

State/Federal: While having some management and regulation at the National Level, and much more at the State Level, a lot would be done by regions in state (county, city, etc).

Emergency Rooms: Continue to not be able to turn away people but for those who have not paid their fee it is added onto the fee of the ER. Allow a person to use the care provided by the HealthCareProgram to help with hospital visit.

Getting People To Pay: One problem we often see is that the younger (say 18-30) who are not employed full time, in school, or not employed do not view they need medical coverage. Rather than FORCE any person to pay allow hospitals and clinics to charge additional rates to those who are self-pay for the basics listed above. Conversely, if a person has paid their HealthCare Program fee have the rates be lower. Routes to do this could be to up the fees for seasonal vaccines, etc for self-pays.

Chronic Illness/Disease: The number of visits above should help in the area of preventative medicine as well as curative. In instances where this coverage would not be enough (should be for most diabetics, heart disease, etc..but in cases like cancer) then require insurance companies to create plans for these people, use non-profits, etc.

Drugs/Medicines: As stated above those medications that already are given for free or $4-$10 through places like walmart and grocery changes should be FREE under this program. For the rest research would have to be done to decide what percentage (if any) to cover.

Alternative Therapies: Some CAM therapies are provided as part of this plan to assist those who may better align with that area, however as with the 'traditionally western' treatments only a few services/items would be free. Suggestions for insurance companies to offer CAM Insurance Plans.

Education: One of the primary areas would be offering people a FREE class each month in areas of nutrition, healing, anatomy/physiology, meditation, exercise, etc. Allow one free course each month but not more than one. Insurance companies could offer incentives for people to be part of these courses on education.

Doctors/Nurses/Practitioners: In order to pay for this you would need practitioners that are willing to accept a lower income. Considering the presence of Free Clinics and similarly donated work this may only be a small bump. May be able to bring in TAX or other incentives to the practitioners that take on percentages of the HealthCare Program.

Indigent/etc: This area may still cause some problems and again looking at the number of Free Clinics and similar that we have today there must be a way to "reign" in on them so that something more/better/different can occur so the indigent would still be part???

HealthCare Program Money: Ideally this would be run in part like a non-proft but at minnimum MUST be a closed program. Money collected should NOT go into any form of general fund. When there is a profit or similar than use that money to increase benefits, to provide/assist 501.3c organizations in helping inidgent, for use to fund research when applicable to care/prevention/etc, and espeically for increase of education programs.

Initial Funding: In this area we can look to the federal money that goes to the non-profits already offering similar type programs and work to bring them in under this program diversifying the money. AND/OR do a one-time "loan/gift/etc" from general funds. And/OR by bringing the medicare/medicaid programs under this system have access to that money initially.

Start Date: Ideally this type of plan ought to be able to be put together and start in 2011 - yeah takes work and more research.

Employees: This should not cause a loss of jobs in insurance fields though may require new/more training. Additionally, you would be able to create jobs through the Education Programs and likely would have a need for more nurses/doctors as well.

Socialism Concern:
Is this a socialized system? Yes it is, but with it not going through taxes and still in part being optional, plus ideally having the program at least slightly outside of mainstream federal government worries of this would need to be asked in specific questions.

 Is it different then what we already have available through the required admittance ERs, the medicare/medicaid programs, and non-profit groups? Not really, it actually will bring a lot of that under one area so that hopefully a better system will arise. Again more questions/research would be ideal.

Will this lead to wanting coverage for everything like house over our heads etc? No more than what is already occuring and desired.






So? Why would something like this work? Why would it not work?

Please send me your thoughts/questions.
Please pass this on that I might get more thoughts/questions.
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Linda

 
i would read and think about it more but you are short changing the people on mental health -only 4 visits ? usf offers 10 to paying students -with 4 the medicine wont even hardly taken effect ! There needs to a a excellent program like USF mental health program and no more news reports about horrible doctors killing their patients through over medication or crazy patients shooting people because the counselor was too busy to see them, etc etc

There should be a special partner program with non-profits and mental health and churches to help the mind the body  the soul and the spirit be healed ! This is very important !

 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 11:18 AM
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Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist
Debra Macking

 
First not 4 medicines a year hehe... but you know how Walmart, Publix, and others have their lists of either free, or uber cheap (like $4) medications - they should be FREE under the program.

I know it short changes the people with chronic, very disabling, and serious diseases. However, I think it is difficult to create a simple program that would cover all that initially (maybe in steps). The idea of the above though is something where if a more serious issue arises or is found then the person would be able to go to insurance companies or similar to get the additional assistance.

If people would pay more than more could be covered but when a lot of people may never need those services or even the ones that are listed it can be difficult (in listening to arguments) to get a lot of $$ from them.

One idea is that there needs to be more research into HOW Universities can have a mere $25 (in case of USF) semester health fee ($75 a year) and offer free visits (no free meds or blood/diagnostic tests without insurance). Part of it is that everyone is paying but not everyone is using. The program thoughts I had included at least some of the testing, medications, and specialists that arent covered say by being a student at USF. So???
 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 1:41 PM
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Debra Macking

 
N3cr0shark
 
The Health care system is definitely broke.  I do not know if one idea is better than another, but we've got to get off our collective butts and do something about it.  If people put as much energy into enacting some of the ideas to see what works as they do debating and arguing over what they 'feel' or 'believe' won't work then we'd be somewhere on this.  Instead it's stagnant...  I say, why not give some of these ideas a chance.  Learn what works and what doesn't.  No one idea is perfect...but take the good components of each plan and lets get moving here...  Just my $0.02

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 1:36 PM
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Debra Macking

 
Thanks for your response and you bring up a good point about testing/taking action.

It would be nice to see states volunteer to test out the different programs say over a 4 year period, then based on success, health, etc create the national system.... actually that could be a great way to have people do what they "feel" and "believe" if they truly think/want the best.

Please pass this blog on to others through re-posting and e-mailing as I really do want responses, questions, and thoughts.

Plus if you have ideas about healthcare please post and let me know I will do the same.

Oh, and if you do think that maybe having states test out the programs before a national program is decided (the more I think about it the more I like that idea) well.... lets not just talk!!

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 1:37 PM
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Debra Macking

 
A thought came up about birth control. Yes I think that it should be able to be covered by the program, however I do not think abortion should be. See that blog for more details there!

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 3:46 PM
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Linda

 
I have mixed feelings on the birth control front --my ideal is that they would be full-formed by the doctor --all drug interactions what it can and can't do -possible side effects and heart or blood clot possiblities etc of course, no funding to abortion.
One place you may look is how the judeo-Christian Clinic on macdill operates they care for tons of people and I think half of them are reduced pay too.
Again It goes back to Community efforts mixed with education and other groups
maybe you can have a local center for large area (like hcc campuses) and then they branch out in their area so it a bunch of small umbellas or Like the lungs all the little sacs make the lungs go in and out.

 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 4:45 PM
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Debra Macking

 
See that is why I think a government program such as the one I mention in the blog would work. There are so many community programs that already get gov. funding as well as community support- why not create a program using those concepts.

I know there are arguments against "free" or discounted birth control. Obviously whether it is birth control, vitamins, or exercise people should have access to education and information. On the other side just like with your phrase about not doing enough for the mentally challenged there is only so much and with an eye on preventative promoting the use of birth control (whether it is BC, condoms, etc) is helpful and honestly it creates a less burden then if people attempt to do abortions or similar. I personally don't have any moral dilemmas with Birth Control from a personal or larger perspective, ethically I do not see problems provided education is available, and legally I don't see problems with offering such as part of a HealthCare program.

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 5:22 PM
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Linda

 
I am unsure on the BC for me, but i would want a better attitude toward it-I really dislike the current attitude -both on campus and in commerical -that say you know you are going do it so use a condom anyway...or the men are pigs trojan commericals

 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 6:06 PM
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Debra Macking

 
The thing is Linda, and I know this may sound sad/liberal/etc but yes people are going to have sex outside of marriage and hopefully inside marriage.
During this time of sex, be it inside or outside marriage, people may not want to get pregnant. This could be because they already have kids, do not believe themselves financially/intellectually/emotionally/etc stable to have them, or countless other reasons including even knowing diseases run through both parents.

It may seem like those ads are only geared towards youth because that is where a lot of emphasis has been put but once you are 18 yeah it is wise to think about forms of birth control if you are going to have sex... inside or outside of a serious relationship....

and Linda - Sex is fun it isn't just for procreation to a majority of the people who have sex.

and I know this also may sound frustrating but would you rather a lot of unwanted pregnancies or birth control?

so yeah they are right people are going to have sex... maybe the message sounds empty but it isn't completely wrong, and if you want to teach abstinence then just be careful not to do it with a religious perspective if you are trying to use government funds - keep that to the religions.

Also, for women when it comes to birth control - yes it is important to know the risks but also to know that there are plenty of benefits in addition to preventing pregnancy for most ppl who can take BC. I am not a person able to take BC but I know that it can help others with everything from weight, to mood swings, to cramps, to acne.

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 6:56 PM
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Linda

 
I wasnt saying that Sex isn't fun and people like having sex for sex :P I was saying I would want to change the attitude --Saying that Loving Committment should be a part of this intimate act, and responiblity for your partner is important--Most studies show that the key to Absience programs falls to two factors-Themselves and their Peer group -If their peer group says go, they often follow the crowd. Many Churches and AB group note that after youth group, they go to college and the new in crowd tells them what to do--this is a falling of the Church that largely ignores people after youth and unmarried.  Alex says regarding this, i am going to be on the tip top health and no one is  going to catching anything if i can help it ! On the other side, being AB is not that bad -I dont have to worry about Std or pregnancy or cheating or whatever...but in the future who knows?
I am almost afraid that when I get married, God will pull a switch and it will start raining babies :P
 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:11 PM
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Debra Macking

 
It is not that Abstience is bad nor that it should not be taught but take into consideration that there are many people who it may just not work for them be it because of their beliefs or just who/what they are.
Also, its more than just sex for sex... there are people who believe that it is ok to have sex outside of a committed relationship. Plus many people who have been through divorce will tell you that they feel they may have missed out. There is responsibility in being honest with partners but that to me isnt a reason to NOT still offer BC through a medical healthcare program.

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:35 PM
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Suni
suni banta

 
You should work for the government.
 
Posted by Suni on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:24 PM
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Debra Macking

 
Why do you say that?

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:36 PM
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Heather Ayers
Heather Lawton

 
Great thoughts, I see you put a lot into your organization and preparation of your thoughts and ideas.  I will ponder on thoughts and get back to you on this one.  I am still not sure why I would not want it to be paid for via taxes.  Pondering.... :)
 
Posted by Heather Ayers on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:57 PM
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Debra Macking

 
I don't like using much in the form of taxes to pay for it. However, considering that many non-profit medical groups get federal money, that we have already had tax money going to medicare/medicaid I believe that initially to fund the program there might be reason to have some money from taxes included. Minding that I think it should be very small and primarily the program ought to be based on those joining it.

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:08 PM
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Linda

 
I definetly don't think AB is bad -I am all for it. On the other note, I will some what settle for knowledgeble consent  and education.
 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:14 PM
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Debra Macking

 
again we get back to the idea of married couples that dont want kids - what there Linda? Sorry but while I believe a person ought to have the ability to use their religious beliefs to dictate their own actions, I just think that when it comes to a national type policy or a healthcare plan as such to deny BC would not be ideal.

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 9:10 PM
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Shahryar the Corsair
Ryan Martori

 
I send this to anyone who talks about healthcare so here we go... www.pbs.org do a search for frontline sick around the world. It shows teh pros and cons of the universal healthcare systems of about 5 capitalist countries. it is a really interesting show

 
Posted by Shahryar the Corsair on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 9:18 PM
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Debra Macking

 
I have actually looked through that stuff, plus I took a couple courses out of the Public Health dept at USF regarding healthcare, and it has been addressed in some of the ethics courses over the years.

There are pros and cons.. the biggest thing I can notice is that in countries that have a mindset that includes: preventative, meditation, extended vacation, siestas or similar, less work weeks, less over processed foods, family meals over going out, better education in all areas, acceptance of CAM therapies, and similar do well with social medicine but the less of those areas that are included the worse, and more failing the system

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 9:33 PM
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Linda

 
I dont know about not wanting kids period but my sister and my brother fiance/wife want more kids n the future but use birth control now one kid especially Alex my nephew is all that they can handle right now. Another thing what about the whole wife wants husband doesn't thing =how do you figure that conflict out ?
 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 10:48 PM
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Debra Macking

 
That should not have to be handled by a Federal government HealthCare Program Linda????

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 11:19 PM
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Linda

 
I wasn't saying that should be taken care by a fed government -that would be rather invusive--I was just thinking about your statement of why married couple may or may not use birth control in regards to having, not having or having a small family. The only thing that federal or local healthcare programs says about child spacing is that you should wait about 2 to 3 years between kids because many kids under the age of 2 can be pretty taxing on any family --....
 
Posted by Linda on October 21, 2009 - Wednesday - 11:31 PM
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Debra Macking

 
I am just wondering/saying in regards to the program you mentioned birth control or I did or something (can't remember at moment). I think it should be covered, and was giving reason why and then got confused by the last statement you made.. hehe *smiles* the fun of tangents.

So... anything else on the program above that concerns you or that you have questions about outside of more mental/psychological support and not allowing birth control?

 
Posted by Debra Macking, Licensed Masage Therapist on October 22, 2009 - Thursday - 2:51 AM
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Linda

 
I think that is about it. Like I said, more holistic treatment of people, better care /better access to care and opt-outs to those who are uncertain about BC. We can talk about it more later though!
 
Posted by Linda on October 22, 2009 - Thursday - 12:32 PM
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