Wow....u're right........
But!!!!!!
we have a basis-the BIBLE, that is the book of right and wrong
 

... ;) its clear for those on the "Royal Path"
 

arguing for the sake of it- if you dont believe that there is a God then therefore the bible was man wrote and thought in which our God comes from us and we are creators of right and wrong

i know you've read the same source material that i have so i believe this to be a fun arguement
 

but are we? you cannot say that with certainty. It might be right, it might not. Yours is just an opinion. If there is not basis for you being a creator and no means or end to the creation of such, then you cannot ever know.
 

But aren’t we all just speculating, the common down fall with Christianity is you cant prove me wrong so therefore I’m right but doesn’t using the same logic mean evolution is right but we’ve just yet to discover it to the full satisfaction of Christians?

If this is a argument on right and wrong then going purely from a evolution point of view- ape-like creatures needed to eat and procreate, if obtaining food is a prime goal, then the creature that is most proficient at it is going to be dominate therefore a might is right ruling comes into play and consequences happen if disobeyed

i've left many holes so we can perpetuate this argument because I've always wanted to argue against an creationist even tho i am one
 

That really begs the question, why do we help the homeless, why do we care about others who cannot otherwise fend for themselves, given that they are not fit to survive under evolutionary ideals. Murder is still not really wrong, considering we really are only out for ourselves. There is no fized post for where right ends and wrong begins. If Stanley Kubrick is to be listened to we should realy be burning the homeless and eating them, because they will provide us with the food and energy to procreate with the fittest individuals.

The other problem of course is that what people deem to be the fittest is different, especially in a variety of human circles. Big blonde meat-head footballer types marrying blonde bimbos will not always produce more of the same. In animals, despite the idea that the most impressive males get all the chicks, it doesn't happen and animals will sometimes go for the weakest specimen of their species. This invariably produces offspring that are better than their parents at some stage, someone wonders how the animals know that the geeky sick armadillo will give many hardy offspring. I was part of a research project that looked at this, and we found very little evidence for fittest surviving.

Anyway, back to what you said in the beginning. The main point here is that to say that "all opinions are valid" is only an opinion. To say that Christianity is right is also an opinion. something has to be right, because we know instinctively what right and wrong are. 6.6 billion people can't be wrong.
 

Hehe I love arguing, also can you get me a link to that research project that you were working on? I would love to read it- or a simplistic version of it, but back to the posting

The Stone Age philosophy of the weak shouldn’t survive has been negated by human evolution/ advancements in technology in which human’s as a species has developed ways to combat sickness or disease that would have perpetuated evolution- this is not to say human evolution is not still occurring do to future extreme weather changed with could perpetuated our species.

With the development of the human brain/ intelligence the ability to conceive right as wrong due to consequences, due to survival instincts as a primary instigator, allows for the concept that a growing intellect could have modified on the might is right principle.

In your last paragraph as well as your original post your modifying your stance on the position of God based right and wrong. There was not always 6.6 billion people on the earth therefore defining that 6.6 billion people are not wrong or right but learnt such thought patterns, a child does not no right and wrong that is something they are taught, a cognitive learnt function, so therefore when human civilizations dictated that such advancements in human psyche would allow for the same right and wrong thought patterns to be implemented for right and wrong.

this is getting long i know but good for me for working things out