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Wednesday, July 02, 2008 

Current mood:  awake
Category: Food and Restaurants
PETA offers 1 MILLION dollar reward for cruelty free meat

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i really wanted to add Bob Linden's radio program he did sometime close to thanksgiving either the day before or after in last 3 years about scientific evidence of how eating meat effects health negatively because of the anger and fear chemicals that go into a slaughtered animal's body and then into the person who eats the animal, but i looked for a long time yesterday and cannot find it.. i wait eagerly for this day so those of us who love cats and dogs can feed them flesh without cruelty or contaminated with feces, drugs, bacteria! Namasté, nan

Thank you!
VeganFuture


Lab-grown meat



http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=J7r9IYaEz7U



Go Vegan Radio's Bob Linden interviews Nicole Matthews, campaign co-ordinator of PETA's Kentucky Fried Cruelty Campaign

Nicole speaks about a one million dollar reward being offered by PETA to the first scientist who can create, and bring to market, a commercially successful "chicken flesh" than can be grown in a laboratory.. She describes some of the suffering endured by chickens and other animals and how lab-grown meat (also known as in-vitro meat) eliminates this cruelty

Reference is made in the interview to the fact that, despite this drive to produce lab-grown meat, a meat-free, plant-based vegan diet is the most healthy option for humans

Comments Nicole: "We've discovered that you can kick the meat habit and feel better about yourself inside and out but considering that meat-eaters are routinely consuming flesh contaminated with faeces, drugs, bacteria, we imagine that once they get used to the idea - like switching from dissecting a frog to using a sophisticated computer model - they'll be more than happy to eat meat created in a laboratory

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Enjoy Your Lab-Grown MEAT - The PETA Challenge

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Would You Eat Lab Grown Meat?

Wired. com
By Aaron Rowe
June 29, 2008

http://blog. wired. com/wiredscience/2008/06/video-would-you. html

Scientists can grow tissue in their laboratories, so why not make tons of meat in a big vat?

It would spare the lives of animals, and cut down on the environmental problems — like carbon emission — that are associated with farming

As I explained in April, PETA has issued a $1 million dollar challenge to the first business that brings artificial meat to the market

A new public television show, Your Week, asked a bunch of people if they would eat the stuff

Unfortunately, their headline, Would You Eat Frankenmeat? has a pretty negative connotation

Hopefully, subtle jabs like that will not bias the public against these new products, which already seem a bit hard to swallow




PETA: I'm a Vegetarian, But I Want Meat


Wired. com
By Aaron Rowe
April 22, 2008

http://blog. wired. com/wiredscience/2008/04/peta-im-a-veget. html

In a measure to protect animals by any means necessary, PETA is offering a $1 million prize to the first scientist who can produce lab-grown meat in bulk

For me, this is way better than the Ansari X Prize: Why visit space when you can just as easily take a trip to heaven with some cantaloupe wrapped in high-tech prosciutto? As a vegetarian and a biological scientist, I'm thrilled by yesterday's announcement and eager to start loading my plate with tissue-engineered bacon

My only concern: Can people who eat meat call themselves vegetarians?

It drives me nuts when someone says, "I'm a vegetarian, but I eat fish"

Those people cause even more confusion than the colossal tools within PETA who think this competition is a bad idea Because of knobs like them, I get stuck answering all sorts of ridiculous questions at parties: You eat seafood, right? Fish are just swimming vegetables!

What do you think we should call vegetarians who eat fake meat? If you are a vegetarian who yearns for the taste of animal flesh, what kind of meat should scientists whip up first? My vote: foie gras
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frankOdelic

I'm curious to hear what my animal loving friends think about this

It's damn odd, to say the least!



Can People Have Meat and a Planet, Too?
By Andrew C Revkin
The New York Times
April 11, 2008


The world has seen the first international conference on manufacturing meat

This is the process, tested so far only at laboratory scale, of growing pork, chicken, or beef through cell culture in vats instead of raising and slaughtering animals

My colleague Mark Bittman wrote a fine piece recently about the greenhouse-gas consequences of conventional meat production

Others have explored the environmental and ethical impacts of factory and feedlot farming

Manufactured meat, in theory, provides an end run around these issues.. What if you can have your meat, be ethical, and environmental, too? (And presumably they'll engineer the bad fats out as well)

The three-day meeting of the In Vitro Meat Consortium, held at the Norwegian Food Research Institute, is wrapping up today (They might want to do something about that name) It brought together biologists, engineers, government officials and entrepreneurs seeking – for both environmental and ethical reasons – to move from animal husbandry to technology as a means of providing the kind of protein people crave in a world heading toward 9 billion ever more affluent mouths

A paper presented at the meeting concluded that, for the moment, the costs of cultured meat can't come close yet to competing with, say, unsubsidized chicken (A pdf is downloadable here) The paper noted the reality of the climb up the protein ladder as countries move out of poverty, with global meat consumption at about 270 million metric tons in 2007 and growing at about 4 point 7 million tons per year

It laid out the theory: "The environmental impact of meeting this forecast demand from existing livestock systems is significant.. Cultured meat technology offers an alternative production route for a proportion of this consumption…This would then allow a downsized livestock production system to continue to be ecologically sound and to meet basic animal welfare needs"

The group noted that costs for research, large-scale testing, and public relations will be significant, and anticipated that governments and nonprofit groups would chip in

That seems idealistic, at best, in a world with deeply entrenched interests linking ranching, the agrochemical industry, and giant restaurant chains

But one could envision someday a model, say, of a solar-powered facility in southern California or Singapore basically turning sunlight and desalinated seawater into growth medium and then tons of cruelty-free, sustainable nuggets of chicken essence (The promoters of this technology don't envision anything, for now at least, beyond nuggets and ground meat…No filet mignon)

For the moment, startup costs aside, the conferees concluded that unsubsidized chicken-raising still comes in at half the price

But the century is yet young

I asked a few folks about facets of this, among them Peter Singer, the ethicist at Princeton who's written for ages on animal rights and environmental values on a finite planet

For those seeking an end to animal slaughter for human sustenance, is this kind of a cheat, I asked?

"Not necessarily," he said, "My interest is in ethics, but whatever works best…If it is harder to move people on ethical grounds than it is to provide a sustainable humane substitute, I'm all for the substitute"

I then went to my bellwether of techno-optimist thinking, Jesse Ausubel, the director of the program for the human environment at Rockefeller University

He said there is no reason to doubt that a long-term trend toward more concentrated food production will eventually lead to manufactured meat

In fact, he said, there is essentially little choice on a crowding planet to pursue technological solutions to feeding ourselves, shifting away from carbon-containing fuels, and otherwise limiting our ecological imprint

Human nature is probably harder to change than technology, he said

"If behavior and technology do not change, more numerous humans will trample the earth and endanger our own survival," he told me.. "The snake brain in each of us makes me cautious about relying heavily ..s in behavior.. In contrast, centuries of extraordinary technical progress give me great confidence that diffusion of our best practices and continuing innovation can advance us much further in decarbonization, landless agriculture, and other cardinal directions for a prosperous, green environment.. For engineers and others in the technical enterprise the urgency and prizes for sustaining their contributions could not be higher

Because the human brain does not change, technology must"


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FrankOdelic and i are curious to hear what our animal loving friends think about this.. COMMENT BELOW if you like

Shelly
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While I am someone who loves animals and goes far beyond the average person around me to defend them, I still say that the only kind of cruelty free meat your are going to find, is that from an animal who has died of natural causes in the wild or a pet who was given optimum care.


Free range, organic cattle are still slaughtered. I read that in order for meat to be kosher, the animal mus suffer as little as possible when being killed. Does this mean the animal does not fell any pain? I think the only way for that to happen is to give them something like the injection pets get when the vet puts them to sleep. And you do NOT want to be eating meat from an animal that has been given this injection.
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I read in, I think, Genesis, the method they had for slaughtering sheep and cattle was to simply slit his neck. The animal suffers so much blood loss at the onset, that he probably does not feel much pain before he dies, which is, most likely, within a few minutes. I do not believe this is how cattle are laughtered that are raised on free range farms. I have been told, they are taken to a slaughter house near them, that they do business with. This slaughterhouse, I am sure, slaughters the cattle in the typical fashion that they have been doing for decades.


A carnivore's natural diet consists of at least a prtion of meat every day. Most vegetarians I know are only able to maintain the diet they do by adding lots of supplements in addition to beans, lentils and tofu to their diet. I am sure they would do the same for their cats and dogs. I believe this is not healthy and this lack of health will show itself over time. Plus, it is very unnatural.


This is the way I see it. Everyone dies. It is the quality of their life that matters. My uncle lived a full life and denied himself nothing. He liked vodka a lot. He died a few months ago from pancreatic cancer. My grandma lived a full life and denied herself nothing. She enjoyed fatty foods and loved to go on vacation. My grandma died of a brain anyrism due to a blood clot moving through her viens and ended up in her head where the vein eventually burst in the middle of the night. Noone knew she had it. She then died pretty quickly after that. This was back in '93. I do not regret the lives of either of these. And I am happy for them as I am happy for the lives on the cattle and chickens on these free range farms.


I eat meat about once every two weeks. Milk and eggs much more often than that. My dogs have meat in their diet every day. It is the best way to go. My cat chooses her own meat by going out and catching birds. LOL It's nature's way.


If you must have meat, that is true meat, not imitation from tofu, etc, please at least consider the lives of these poor animals who suffer terribly until God shows them mercy and they are killed while living on these factory farms. The meat you will get will also not be that healthy for you and you will be consuming and contributing to all that pain they have experienced their whole entire lives. Then you will carry that with you and wonder why you are sick, angry, etc. Please consider a free range farm. There are actually quite a few as we, as a nation are making oru way back to the way we were before the 1950's when farms started using all these chemicals.


I have typed up a blog on factory farms and also one on raw milk. I will leave the links directly to the sites I mention in the blogs as well. I did not do a complete list with the farms at all and plan on blogging again with a more complete list from what I can find. On the raw milk site, you will find many farms that raise their dairy cows free range and organic, as they are obviously more into the natural thing. Many of these farms sell many other products in addition to milk and other dairy products. Lots of them sell free range, organic meat.



raw milk blog

http://blog. myspace. com/index. cfm?fuseaction=blog. view&friendID=305508222&blogID=374372295&Mytoken=50DFCAFF-B2C2-4730-8ADB2C9F5C2D209E195755


farmer's markets with free range meat blog

http://blog. myspace. com/index. cfm?fuseaction=blog. view&friendID=305508222&blogID=367303221&Mytoken=50DFCAFF-B2C2-4730-8ADB2C9F5C2D209E195755


direct links to raw milk website

http://www. westonaprice. org/splash_2. htm

http://www. realmilk. com/where. html


direct link to the farmer's market near me in Detroit, Michigan They do NOT have a list of vendors and what they sell, sadly.


http://www. ci. royal-oak. mi. us/farmersmkt/index. html


direct link to a vendor's website who sells free range, organic beef and bison at that fermer's market

http://www. tmzfarm. com/
 
Posted by Shelly on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 04:32 PM
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