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Last Updated: 11/19/2009

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Status: Divorced
City: New York
State: New York
Country: US
Signup Date: 6/22/2005

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 
There are two studios out of which I primarily work: the first is my home studio, the second is of course the DFA studio complex. I tend to do all of my remixing in my home studio, as remixing doesn't usually require the recording of loud acoustic instruments like a full drum kit. My home studio is pretty extensive. I have Apogee converters, a bunch of vintage outboard compressors and preamps, a ton of analog synths.
The difficulty in the small studio setup has historically been with finding a decent sounding small format mixer that had the routing capabilities and features of a desk you might find in a 'proper' studio. Mackie was the first to do this with any great success. They offered inexpensive boards with tons of features crammed into a small frame, but for me the sound quality was entirely unacceptable.
However, a couple of years ago I bought a Mackie Onyx 1640, the flagship board of their new Onyx series. It was the first time I was satisfied with the sound quality of a Mackie product, and though I wished for a 24 channel version, I was quite happy with it. It sounded fine, it had a small footprint, and with a price tag of around $1,400, it far outperformed anything in its class.
Until a couple of weeks ago. I was in the midst of some tight remix schedules (I still am), and while I was powering up my studio I noticed that the Mackie Onyx with which I had had no troubles would not power up properly. It was switching on and off and making a popping sound in my Dynaudio monitors, which, incidentally, cost as much as my car. I immediately realized there must be some sort of power supply issue, something I knew my local tech could fix that day if he had the parts. I was sort of happy to have the unscheduled day off, so I dropped off the mixer with the tech and went bowling.
Within a few hours the tech called me with some bad news. The problem with the mixer was in fact the power supply, a simple fix. However, Mackie would not have the necessary replacement part available for three months. Three months!!! This was entirely unacceptable. Three days would have been a stretch, but three months was simply impossible. The tech assured me that there was nothing he could do on his end, that he was entirely at the mercy of Mackie.
I was now faced with two choices. I could either break out one of my older mixers and sort of get by, or I could go out and buy something else to replace it. The former option didn't sit right with me. I did not want to compromise sound quality in any way. The latter option, depending on your financial perspective, was a bitter waste-of-money pill to swallow. I would be buying a new mixer outright to replace something I would get back in about three months, leaving me with two, and leaving me $1,400 poorer.
Before I went out and spent that kind of money, I decided to contact Mackie and get their take on it. I sent Mackie an email outlining this ordeal, explaining who I was, who I worked with, all of the things that I thought might grab their attention. I got no response.
You would figure that in this economy, the last thing a company dealing in a pretty specialized electronics item aimed at the pockets of home recordists would want is to turn someone like me against them. I routinely praised the virtues of the Onyx to friends who do what i do, fans who wrote me asking me about my recording setup, and even in interviews (see recent Future Music and Resident Advisor).
Now I will actively advise against buying any Mackie product. After further discussion with my tech, it seems that Mackie is encouraging customers to replace broken Mackie products and discouraging them from repairing them. They are ostensibly making it harder to get their products serviced, and limiting their warranty service centers. Aside from the financial insult (again, depending on your perspective, being told to replace a $1,400 mixer rather than do a $200 repair is a financial outrage), the environmental travesty of implementing such a policy should deter people from supporting this company.
I am exploring other options and will let you know the outcome. Right now I am trying out mixers from Soundcraft and Allen and Heath, who were only too happy to accomadate me. But for now, this whole ordeal has cost me enough money that, for the first time, I feel compelled to campaign against a company like this. Mackie may not care enough about losing one customer, and my attendant loss of income, but in the current economy It will be somewhat satisfying if I can spread the word about this. Word of mouth is a pretty powerful thing in the customer service world.
Beaner

 
ive always found allen and heath to be super accomodating to customers, although ive never used their recording mixers and have no idea how they sound. am a fan of the dj mixers and how they sound, though.

 
Posted by Beaner on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 5:02 PM
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CoyoteKid

 
Noted.  
You may or may not remember, but during your last Portland, OR show, I talked to you about you coming back to P-town just to DJ.  I don't mean to shove anything in your face, but I thought of the line that night "if you spin it, they will come", and wrote a little song around that.  I put it up on my myspace, and definitely added a touch of The Juan since you guys directly inspired it.  If you got the time (which I know you may not have) feel free to check it out.  I'm unsigned, not making money off anything.  Just thought I'd share it with you since you were the source of inspiration behind it.  If you get the chance, I hope you enjoy it.  :)

 
Posted by CoyoteKid on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 5:03 PM
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A Disco Ate My BABY!

 
Power supply components aren't usually proprietary, they're fairly standardised. I'd love to know what exactly it was that your tech couldn't source.
I too am using a mackie into dynaudios - I'm thinking one of the Toft mixers may be a better partner for them, have you checked them out?
This scenario of manufacturers pushing for replacement rather than repair is becoming the norm, and should be actively discouraged. Apart from the waste, no-one in 10 years time will know how to fix any of this stuff, and too bad if it is a critical part of your music-making process, you'll just have to start all over again finding your sound and learning new techniques on new gear...

 
Posted by A Disco Ate My BABY! on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:49 AM
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The Project Club

 
As I mentioned on Spam book...   SSL's new "mini" analogue desk does the job.  Straight up - good sound - job done.

 
Posted by The Project Club on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 5:06 PM
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TELEFFONIC

 
Agreed, I dumped my Mackie long ago...more hype than anything.  I think in terms of the mixer, you gotta bite the bullet like you did with your monitors and go with something you won't really have to dick with.  I'm having similar issues with my MOTU...customer service is fucking horrible.
-Steve

 


 
Posted by TELEFFONIC on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 2:27 PM
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DISKOKAINE

 
your oxygen midiman you sold me for free at 5am while we djed becks fashionweek berlin doesnt work either.
i have to post a thread about that rip-off too.

 
Posted by DISKOKAINE on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 1:51 PM
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The Anthony Mancino Stereothon

 
This is frightening similar to Apple's repair policy. 
Ever try getting a Macintosh fixed after it's fallen out of warranty? 
Simple repairs end up costing almost as much as buying a new machine outright. 



 
Posted by The Anthony Mancino Stereothon on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 3:19 PM
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