very good blog and it is so true...instead of protect and serve they become the criminals with a badge. Granted in the last blog the lady was driving dirty but the PIGS always take actions first and ask questions later. If you are not dirty, they (pigs) will eventually trump so many charges on you to make themselves look good and make you look like the scum of the earth. I have seen too many family member and friends get theirs lives fucked up do to a crooked ass.,low down, dirty pig.

 

Where did this happen, in Florida you say.  Florida is suppose to be a ethnic cultural center.  You know Cubans, Americans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, etc, all living in peace and harmony.  I'm sure there are bad cops everywhere.  But my experience is that most of them are in places like Florida or California.....big city territory.  Why, I can't say for sure.  I use to ride a big twin in California.  All I had to do was fire it up and cops came from miles around to harass me.  Mini vans would pass me doing 80 miles an hour, but they would pull me over for going 5 miles over.  I think all of these cultural meccas like LA, New York, Atlanta, etc....They're all full of bad cops that have been fired in other parts of middle America.  My advise to you TC is to stay away from pigs.  You'll catch swine flu if you get to close.  But there are good cops out there.  And to say all cops are bad is to fall into the same trap klansmen fall into.  Never judge an entire population group by the actions of a few.

And whatever you do, don't kiss a pig, even if it has lipstick on it.......

 

"And to say all cops are bad is to fall into the same trap klansmen fall into."

WTF are you trying to say?  Cuz it looks like you are saying not all klansmen are bad.  Anyone involved with the Ku Klux Klan is bad.  Now there is a difference between klansmen and clansmen.  But are you serious?  Klansmen?  WTF Jim?  I am seriously baffled here.  I anxiously await your reply.

 

And to say all cops are bad is to fall into the same trap klansmen fall into.  Never judge an entire population group by the actions of a few
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Klansmen judge an entire group of people by a few slanted and perverse rules.  Klansmen stereo type an entire group of people instead of judging them as individuals.  They see all people of an ethnic mix as the same.  As Aaron said we should never judge an entire group of people based on their race.  It's a person's mind and actions that we should judge people on....Is that clearer?

 

Okay, I got you now.  The way you phrased it had me scratching my head.

I could understand someone saying something along the lines of: all klansmen are white but not all whites are klansmen.

But the way I interpreted what you were saying was along the lines of:  all klansmen are racist but that doesn't make all klansmen bad people.

 

Not to put words in Jim's mouth, but I think what he meant was that for TC to assume all cops to be bad based on their profession is equivilent to a Klansman assuming all blacks are inferior based on thier race.
 

And if am reading your statement right Aaron, you are saying that not ALL but some Blacks are inferior based on their race.  The fact that you believe that a person's inferiority in any aspect is based on their race, makes you a racist.

 

Always with a needle, TC.  Could you please explain by what tortured and twisted logic you managed to get that I think some blacks are inferior based on their race?  I think we can consider it a given that all Klansmen are racist.  I think we can also consider it a given that not all white people are Klansmen.  Saying that a Klansmen would believe blacks inferior based on thier race is self-evident, but it doesn't mean that I agree with the sentiment.  Do you not get that or are you calling me a Klansman?
 

Now that I went and reread your comment, I stand corrected.  I apologize. 

 

 

Since we are on the subject of racial profiling, I want to share something that occurred two months in this small, quiet, little town which we reside in.

 

The day after Labor Day, just a few house down from ours, Kilian and I witnessed numerous law enforcement vehicles; county sheriff, local police, and unmarked, federal agents, outside of our neighbor’s house.  In addition, there was law enforcement on 4-wheelers, driving through a field.  Our other neighbor was with us and I thought this is a sting operation of some sort.

 

We asked one of the officers what happened and they said a young black male broke into a house and beat up a white girl.  This man is at large and on foot.  Not only was law enforcement looking for this man, but the residents of our town were driving around trying to “capture” this man.

 

This man-hunt went on all day, the next day, actually the whole week.  However, in the State of Oklahoma, we have the open public records act, so usually our local newspaper would announced such a crime, but there was nothing there.

 

Also, comes to find out that two local residents had stated to me, that they are not part of the KKK, THEY ARE THE KKK, and for me not to be surprised that if they captured him, he might be swinging on one of my trees!  I told Kilian this is bullshit!  We just purchased this place and now we live amongst admitted KKK members!

 

Later on, we found out the real story.  This young woman had “partied” with this man, took him home (her aunt’s house) and he spent the night.  The next morning, she went to the store, came home, and forgotten he was there.  So they had a lover’s quarrel and he took off, not on foot but his own vehicle.  So she made up a story about a “break-in committed by a black man”.

 

Was she arrested for false reporting?  NO!  Does this town still think of the black man as a criminal, YES!  There is even a sketch of him posted at the local store. All those man hours from law enforcement looking for a black man who did not committed a crime, IS RACIAL PROFILING!

 

WHERE IS THE JUSTIFICATION? 

 

She should have been charged and arrested for false reporting, and the sketch of the man needs to be taken down.  I pray that this man escaped from the clutches of evil.  I pray that they did not capture him, hanged him, chopped him up, and buried him outside of town.  Because no one knows who he is, except for that little bitch.

 

And I also know for a fact, that if someone broke into my house, and beat me up, law enforcement wouldn’t have spent so much time looking for the person.  They wouldn’t treated me as a victim, they would have questioned me to death, given me the fifth degree, and make their own assumptions.

 

And for the young man on this blog, that was not reasonable cause and probable cause that was fucking harassment based upon their racial profiling. 

 

I would say that the treatment that Mr Lord recieved was totally unjustified.  However, I'm mistaken for Jewish by alot of the people I meet, to include Jews.  And I've had several Arabs ask me if I'm Arab, usually as a follow-up to asking me first if I'm Jewish.  Based on my appearance, I'm probably more likely to get searched prior to boarding an airplane than a pure-blooded Nordic guy or gal.  This is an inconvenience, but I would tend to regard it as worth it if for no other reason than I'd actually like to arrive safely wherever it is that I'm flying to.  Balancing the cost of inconvenience versus the risk of being on a plane that gets highjacked or bombed, I'll take the inconvenience.
 

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Well Christ, I love you too...
 

MUAH!

 

Kilian, might have to jump in between you two

 

No offense to Brenna, but no thanks.  Even if she'd have me, which I very highly doubt, I'd have to worry about my wife, who I was dumb enough to teach to use my guns, after me.  Probably Killian too, come to think of it...
 

Umm Excuse me?  Do I need to call the thought police on you TC?  Get your mind out of the gutter! 

 

 

What are you?  You are Italian right?  Not quite Arab, not quite white...  just quite confused

 

I'm half Calabrese, ie Calabria the "toe" of the "boot" of Italy on my mother's side and half German on my father's side.  My mother's maiden name is Greco, so I can only assume that there's some Greek in my bloodline from way back as well.  And Arabs, Moors and Normans occupied Calabria through its long history, so its possible, if not likely, that I've got some of that as well.  Actually, its not bad, I can probably pass for a native of most European, North African and Middle Eastern countries, to include Iran.  I'm not confused, hopefully this dispels some of yours.
 

So your father is German and your mother is from Italy..... If I remember correctly from history during WWII; Germany was a fascist state and Italy was a fascist state so doesn't that make you a fascist?  Just teasing Aaron, the thought just popped into my head and made me laugh 

 

It gets better.  My wife is Russian, so if I play my cards right, I could father perhaps the greatest dictator ever. 
 

Being part German and part Italian means he wears funny hats.......

 

My friend is French Candian. We all give him a hard time and crack jokes at his expense. He laughs and cracks back. But my favorite for him being French-Candian is that half his family runs from a fight, the other half refuses to fight. Did you watch the Jeff Dunham on Comedy Central, his new show is great. He does the same comparisons with his puppets. Like "what a black man finds funny" LMAO.
 

Damn... and you mean the CIA has not try to recruit you yet.  You sound like a perfect CIA candidate to me.  Maybe you are already a CIA operative.

 

No offense, but were I a spook, I wouldn't tell you; wouldn't want to have to kill you afterwards...
 

Heah Tc, After reading the blog again, I just think the cop had the hots for you.  Did he give you his phone number?

 

Phone number?  My numbers are 9, 16, 22, 38, 45....  Get it?

 

did you have to throw in the LOST reference?

 

Did you say you are now a citizen of the U.S? 
And why you cut your locks?

I would never say that racial profiling is not real or be overstated because I am not a black man and it does makes a difference. 

I never seen it personally but then again I am not a woman who loves the streets to even witness it.  It's even harder for me to judge that because I get flirts and admirations from every race of men I have come accross simply because they really don't know what race I am and I say that because I have been asked.  However, I can say this, it really depends on the state, the county and area you roll into as a black man.

I got another question, when you were here in Atlanta, did you witness any racial profiling?  I am curious because Atlanta have a lot of black people in high political positions including chief of police, major and county commissioners.  We also have a lot of black cops.


 

I am a born citizen of the US, born and raised in California before deciding to do extensive moves abroad. As for cutting my locks, i felt with everything else in life, it was time for change. Life's a journey so we can never stand still too long.

I am not a black man either, but happened to be a white man with locks with a black man, and have been targeted at other times by law enforcement because of my religion.  Hollywood florida has a lot of black cops too, in fact the last time I got pulled over while walking down the road there (several weeks ago). I was stopped by 2 african-american undercover cops, one male one female, who ran a warrant check on me and asked me some questions about my travels saying that they were "just checking up on you cause your a new face in the neighborhood." The first cop who pulled us over in the incident above was white (who was also the one who made the homosexual comments), the backup officer was black. Racial profiling can and does happen by cops of the same race as the person being profiled.

 

Have you ever been to Atlanta and was harrassed? 

I can understand Florida, their drugs and crime is a higher ..BUT, I am talking about Atlanta.  I tell you what, next time in Atlanta, check out Little Five Points, you will feel right at home - people just look at you because you are different but you also have your goths and your gays and white men with locks in East Atlanta is no big deal.  As long as you are not fighting or publically breaking a law - they don't fuck with you - It really depends on where you are.  but yes, your appearance can bring unwanted attention.  

every year on my job, we are required to take some mandatory classes and one of them teaches us to dress to fit in and not stand out and be a target to unwanted attention when traveling abroad and when we travel out of states, we suppose to take a briefing and it tells us about that area, etc., and give us helpful advice to eliminate trouble and if we get into some, who to call and what to do. I am saying this because the reality is you and TCOOO was not the only black and white men in Florida and it was somethign about your appearance that set you apart to draw unwanted attention.  people create their own culture in their community and yes looking like an "oddie" will cause you to attract unwanted attention. 

People can call it "racist" all they want but it is not ALWAYS the reason - we need to be more open minded about other possibilities of why people can attract unwanted attention.  You either compromise for a nice visit or get and expect the BS because you are going to get it.  You are a white man, had dreads and was approched - you did not fit in with your appearance - you stood out and thus making yourself a target.

Again, I am not saying it was not based on race or a religion but I am saying is we need to be more open mind to more reasons of causes - everybody is not narrow minded.  The results of actions don't mean that all of them came from the same reasons to react.


 

I'm not sure how atlanta comes into the debate, as I have only been there once, and never left the airport. Perhaps you thinking about Viniyard or one of the other members of the TCOOO family, they would have to answer seperatly about any experiences they've had there, as I only spent about 6-8 hours in the airport, most of spent sleeping, so pretty uneventful overall.

The reason we were targeted was partially racial (the assumption that the only thing a white man and a black man would be doing together in a car is a drug deal or gun sale), as well as based on the anti-jamaican (and carribean in general) bias by law enforcement in Florida. Add to that it was 2 dreadlocks people in the car, as well as their questions about our association in Jamaica , the bias against us despite doing nothing was evident. The only reason both of us chose not to file a complaint against the officers involved was because we were both leaving the area shortly after that incident, and at least for me personally, I had no intention of staying any longer than I had to.



 

Lol!  A little over twenty years ago I experience something similar in a lot of respects, while living in the downtown area of a particular city in South Eastern VA, where I had only recently moved from WAshington, D.C., because of a Railroad clerical job I had obtained, several months earlier at the, then C&O RR recruitment office in Baltimore.  TO make a long story short here is the kicker.  I was on the main drag, dressing nice and looking nice on a rather frequent basics, eating in the restaurants/clubs regularly et cetra in part because I was renting a two bedroom, two bath apartment in a brand new high rise approximately 3 blocks from where I stopped by the two police officers, one in plain clothes and one in uniform.  On this particular evening, I just happened to be with one of the locals that I had very recently met for I had only been living in that city for no more than 30 days.  The Police Officers called him by name and told him to excuse himself, in other words they let him go on about his business, while they, detained me for frisking, ID checks the whole nine.  One of them stated, we heard that you was the new man on the block!  During the process the held me up so long that, people started coming out of various businesses to observe what was going on between them and me.  So after all the checks and balances and everything check out and was in order.  All during this ordeal I am being respectful, patient and polite, finally, they started asking me, did I want to go to jail?  So my question was, for what?  Whereupon they escorted me to their unmarked car on the next side street down the block, and showed me, a large plastic bag of 'Mary Jane' and asked me what it was?  I immediately said, that it looked like a bag of reefer to me!  Then one of them said, "you are one of them smart niggers, do you want to go to jail.  So for the last time I was asked did I want to go to jail?  This time my reply was, please may I call my lawyer so that they can come down to the jail house to get me out, once they book me!  I was then told by the Police Officer's while standing, waiting to be handcuffed, that they were going to let me go this time, but they didn't never wanted to see me on that particular see on that particular avenue ever again.  And they did in fact let, me go, and I did not venture out on that avenue at night for quite a while after that, and even rarely during the daytime, in part because I figured that since my job security had been spared, by them not false arresting me, in the first place, since I was still on job probation, when they initially stopped me. When I told my dad, sometime later on after that incident about what had happened, he laughed and said that, during the time that the police officers were holding me up, they were just waiting to see if I was going to let a couple of them Railroad hundred dollar bills accidentally fall out of my back pocket, and he said, then they would have possibly left me alone at the off-set!  Evidently, He had experienced something like that also when he was a young adult.  What you just read is a true story!  To this very day, I have yet to forget the name of one of the police officers, that stopped me, that time, although I have long forgotten his badge number.

Respectfully,

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ps:  What you represent or call yourself; is not necessarily, who or what you are, and there is good, bad and ugly in all walks and talks, for what is rife to life!          

 

So, what you are saying is you were not harrassed because you were black but because you were a new guy making some money, dressing nice and they wanted to get some money off of you because they were bad cops?






 

the better cases i was talkin bout TC was this shit for real!!!! from what i know, in a position like ours when were dealing with people with close minds and brainwashing, when you argue against them, you gotta make a vacuum around their ass, not giving them a crack to try and run in the dark and avoid your points. malcolm taught me that. usin cases like that last chick (dope fiends that start screaming racism and i dont have drugs when they get pulled over) are unfortunately living up to a stereotype. these are the bottom 1%ers that fuck everybody over. and dumb bitches use these isolated cases to justify making generalizations against everyone. and when you combat these generalizations, trying to defend or debate the isolated case makes people write you off. using cases like this leaves them not enough room in the argument to scratch their ass.  much love! -me