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Gender: Female
Status: Single
Age: 35
Sign: Libra

City: NEW YORK
State: New York
Country: US
Signup Date: 6/19/2007

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 

Current mood:  jubilant
Category: Romance and Relationships
*As of Feb 12, 2009. After receiving an apology comment (scroll to bottom) I felt everyone should have an update with this issue. Hopefully reading the comments shared by other women help him re-think what was implied and thus ledup to his apology.

While we won't be formal friends, at least now there is a basic respect and understanding towards black women who make the same choices to date interraically and label themselves more then just "black women"
- Nikki*
 
 

Now folks for the most part the black men that know me or come into contact with me tend to be respectful of my dating choices.  Very few have a problem with who I date or how I chose to define myself but every now and again some "brotha" feels the need to try and school this "sista". This usually causes me profound amusement because after some research into their dating choices I find them to be hypocrites. Please note the following example of  BLACK PASSENGER, YELLOW CABS who is a black man married to an asian women. Our recent conversation follows:
 



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Nikki - Euphoria Luv
To: BLACK PASSENGER, YELLOW CABS
Date: Nov 10, 2008 6:41 AM

I'm not going to address your double standard about dating outside of your race, nor am I'm going to justify myself and my child.  If you can't respect my choice and stop being rude then you and I have nothing in common. Your friendship request will be denied and you will be blocked from contacting me any futher.
simple.
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: BLACK PASSENGER, YELLOW CABS
To: Nikki - Euphoria Luv
Date: Nov 9, 2008 10:15 PM
wasnt trying to be rude, just trying to let you see how empty the term 'black' is especially next to the term 'asian' or 'european.' they have terminology which denotes an origin, while we have terminology which is empty. in the words of the great jamaican philosopher mutabaruka, "there is no blackland." and in the words of the late great peter tosh, "it doesnt matter where you are from, as long as youre a black man or woman, you are an african." would it be safe for me to say that it was that kind of denial of your african heritage which lead you to an inter-racial union? of course, you wouldnt admitt that, thats your deep dark secret to have a child lighter complexioned than you.
so, I wasnt being rude and Im still not being rude. as a darkskinned jamaican with a US passport, i too suffered those complexes and can admit that those complexes led to my extreme yellow preference. so i understand.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Nikki - Euphoria Luv
To: BLACK PASSENGER, YELLOW CABS
Date: Nov 9, 2008 4:45 PM
hey, thanks for writing and sharing your thoughts but why do you feel the need to tell me how I should be with your first msg to me? Don't you think it's a bit rude to assume you have the right to tell me something about how I view myself? Can't you wait till we exchange a few emails or something?
I have to disagree with calling myself african.  I see myself as a west indian and then a black american woman based on culture, upbringing and what my passport says :)

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: BLACK PASSENGER, YELLOW CABS
To: Nikki - Euphoria Luv
Date: Nov 9, 2008 11:21 AM
it is very rare indeed to see the yellow man with the black woman (or the asian man with the african woman) its a rare and beautiful think. i dont want to offend you but, i really think its important to refer to our continent (africa) when reference is made to the continent of others (asia). the term black diminishes us. after all, we to have an origin. so you should either say black and yellow or asian and african.
on the other hand, im inviting you to the excerpts of my book about my experiences as a jamaican in japan. the first chapter titled making of a rice king, was posted june 25 07. its a 50 page excerpt from a 380 page book, which should be available by the beginning of december.
take care
stefhen

 
It's true that I date asian men but lets be fair here...they like to date my also. Most times they are the one who pursue me.  I'm not being conceited but explaining how things happen. 
Now if you know me and my dating history you'll know I'm an international dater. But for those of you new to my dating past you should know and understand that I'm way to beautiful to limit myself to just one race of men. Come on, I have to give all races of men a fair chance of basking in the glory that is Nikki . *grin* So far I've dated Middle Eastern, Indian, White, and Black Men along with Asian men...and I have proof for the non-believers among you.
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So now that I've exposed black men and their dating hypocrisy while explaining how I interracially date, I'm going to get back to enjoying my son safe in the knowledge that I've defended myself, my son and my right to choose in all areas of my life.
Obstinate Robinson's Biggest Fan of All Time!!
Naysa R

 
Hey Nikki,

Since he was quoting singers I feel I need to throw in a quote from that deep thinker, Lil Mama, as a reply to him.

"Whatchu know bout me, whatchu-whatchu know bout me?
Whatchu know bout me? Whatchu-whatchu know?"

I think he's projecting his feelings onto you. He said as much when he revealed:

>>I wasnt being rude and Im still not being rude. as a darkskinned jamaican with a US passport, i too suffered those complexes and can admit that those complexes led to my extreme yellow preference. so i understand.<<

You have an interesting array of cute guys. I, like you, used to date the rainbow. Just because you see someone with someone of another color it doesn't mean that they are with that person because they have issues with their own color. Are white people asked if they are dating someone (Asian, Indian, Middle Eastern, African) because they (want to make their children browner, appropriate a different culture, have issues with their own color).

I call myself black and African American interchangeably and I don't think not referring to oneself strictly as African American is a diss to the African continent. Actually, the more Africans I meet the more I realize how estranged we are from the continent. My best friend is biracial but has been mistaken many times for Latina or white. She calls herself "black" and when I think of it in terms of color I think how odd it is for someone so pale to call herself that but when I relate to her in culture I find it natural because Venus is really gully. LOL

I have had many Africans say to me they think it's odd, too, that we would refer to ourselves as African American. To tell the truth many African Americans think of the continent as a country and probably couldn't name one tribe or ethnic group.

Sorry for blowing up your comment. As you can see I agree with you.
 
Posted by Obstinate Robinson's Biggest Fan of All Time!! on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 5:31 PM
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Nikki - Euphoria Luv

 
LOL. Np problem for blowing up your comment. I've done it to yours many, many times.

It's so odd...he's on his soap box but he's also with an asian person, never talked to me about dating interracally and is imposing his issues on me. Then to imply that I'm somehow ashamed of myself/race/color because my son is a few shades lighter. Like I can control that. It's like whaaaaa?

Remember we talked about how African people view black Americans? They just don't think of us as "African" Americans. This is a label we have to use because of that whole slavery thing....I better email you before I blow up my own comments =)
 
Posted by Nikki - Euphoria Luv on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:05 AM
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Katie

 
I'm African (born & raised in the UK) and I accept all black people as having African Origin.

The problem is that most African Americans ( and Carribeans ) :

a) have a stereotype of Africa and Africans so they don't want to be associated with them i.e poverty/AIDS/living in mud huts/"too black"/ physically inferior or unnattractive
b) feel that Africans betrayed them because some sold slaves to the white man
c) had a bad experiences with African(s) who were arrogant/smelly/rude/loud/obnoxious/ignorant/stuck up etc
d) don't know where in Africa their ancestors came from & believe that because they have never been to Africa before, they are not African.
e) Because they have white/indian/native american etc in their blood

Now I may not agree with any of these mindsets, but I will not force my opinion on them. Because of this, I usually refer to African Americans as Black Americans unless they call themselves any different.

I do agree that Africa is a country, therefore Africans technically refer to citizens of Africa...the same as America is a country and it's citizens are American...Europe -Europeans etc.
But my opinion is that for some reason (right or wrong) it is also used to describe out ethnicity and if you are of that ethnicity you are part of it.

The general opinion of Africans are "we welcome and accept all Black people as having African Ancestors, but our cultures are VERY different"

There are some that believe you have to be born and raised in Africa to be "African" which is incredibly ignorant, some feel distant from African Americans because they 'seem' to waste opportunities, have no respect for themselves/life, no business sense, have no morals or are lazy (all stereotypes I know)

This minority usually express these opinions when they feel threatened or disrespected.
It's not right, but I know I myself have experience it as an international student in the USA.

People don't know that the Majority of Africans idolise Americans and want to live in America, they think African Americans are awesome and want to be like them etc.
So I guess for immigrants to arrive in the USA and be treated in a certain way that is unfair/unkind/unwelcoming and have their eyes opened to reality of life in the USA and it's citizens, they become disillusioned and may say things like that in response to all the cruel jokes snide comments..."he stinks he must be Nigerian" (Me and my mom heard this and were deeply offended as we are noth Nigerians with excellent hygiene. I can give you plenty of examples on both sides.

In my opinion, most African Americans are ashamed of Africa because of what they see in the news and on discovery channel and thats why they wish to distant themselves from us. Also vice versa.
 
Posted by Katie on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:28 PM
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♪ Tsidii ♪

 
An AFRICAN saying they do agree that "Africa is a country"? - What the hell is wrong with you? This is not ignorance, it's beyond stupid !!!
 
Posted by ♪ Tsidii ♪ on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 3:09 AM
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Stefhen fd Bryan
Stefhen Bryan

 
Africa is NOT a country, its a continent
 
Posted by Stefhen fd Bryan on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 1:44 AM
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*~ Cherry Cherry Boom Boom ~*

 
nice text but africa is a continent and not a country.

 
Posted by *~ Cherry Cherry Boom Boom ~* on Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 7:10 PM
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Obstinate Robinson's Biggest Fan of All Time!!
Naysa R

 
>>In my opinion, most African Americans are ashamed of Africa because of what they see in the news and on discovery channel and thats why they wish to distant themselves from us. Also vice versa.<<

I don't know, for African Americans, that it goes as far as what we've seen on the news or the Discovery channel about Africa that makes too many of us want to distance ourselves from the continent.

I think it's more of a shame of being black, the shame of our slavery heritage and the thought that black/African is the worst it can get. When I was a child in elementary school back in the late 70s/early 80s one of the worst insults one could call someone was African. Or "African Booty Scratcher". We were ashamed of our lips, our noses, our dark coloring. When a people aspires to whiteness then anything black related is denigrated.


>>There are some that believe you have to be born and raised in Africa to be "African" which is incredibly ignorant, some feel distant from African Americans because they 'seem' to waste opportunities, have no respect for themselves/life, no business sense, have no morals or are lazy (all stereotypes I know)<<

I've encountered that stereotype not only from continental Africans but also from West Indians. It's funny, but my daughter's godfather told this to me years ago. He is from Trinidad. He claimed African Americans waste opportunities and we are lazy and he said that if you take the laziest Trinidadian from his country and put them here they will outwork African Americans because they will be happy to get the opportunity. I contended that the immigrants who come here are more prone to work and the lazy ones will stay at in the home country. A few months later is theory was put to the test when his own brother came to live with him. Oh, it was bad. His brother did not want to work. He barely lasted the year before his wife began to complain about the laziness of her brother in law (she herself was working about three jobs while her husband worked two) till finally they sent him back home.

We never argued about it again.
 
Posted by Obstinate Robinson's Biggest Fan of All Time!! on Friday, December 26, 2008 - 2:51 PM
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Katie

 
I think he was too forward and out of pocket to make such an assumption like that in his 2nd e-mail.

I am dark skinned and I'm not with my bf to have lighter babies, if anything I secretly hope they will look a bit darker, but you can't control who you fall in love with.

I understand what you mean about being approached by Asian men.
I'm a shy and quiet person, and from my experience it's not attractive to Black men. Also because I'm very tall (5'11.5) come from a different socio-economic and cultural background, speak differently and have different tastes in music, clothing...general interests ...they find me unapproachable and intimidating.

I didn't behave as if I thought I was better than other Black people, even though I was constantly teased for not being 'black enough' I would have given an attractive Black man a chance if he approached me like a decent human being. (I mention that to point out that I won't lower my standards just because they are they same race as me, neither will I lower them because I'm "desperate" to be with another race) I don't live in a majority black area, as it goes, the only men that would approach me were White, Latin and Asian...so obviously I started to find them more attractive because thats all I knew. The majority of men that approach I would say are Asian, for whatever reason.

My University is majority Asian & Black international students, so even if I wanted to be bold and ask out a guy, most likely it would have be Asian guys because the Black guys would assume that I was frigid, stuck up and boring...amd snub me in favour of the more out-going/trendy/flashy/popular/party/girls.

I never got approached by Black men, but now I'm with an Asian man they feel like they have the right to accost me...in front of my bf no less!!

Men of all races are subject to this hypocrisy, this "Their taking our women!!" mentality.
My bf made a few remarks once or twice about seeing an Asian Woman that was with a White guy often less attractive....you know general stereotypes that may have been hurtful to the woman if she overheard. I called him out on it and he doesn't do it that much especially since he started to see what it's like the other way around and Black men feeling like he "stole me" from my race. It doesn't make any sense either because he's not really into Asian Women, he generally prefers other races especially Indian Women.

This guy that e-mailed you is particularly hypocritical, his book suggests he has a preference for Asian Women....so why does he care what race you date?
It really is just male chauvanism.

On the other hand it was rude of him to jump to the conclusion that you date Asians exclusively and because you hate your self and want lighter skinned babies.
Of course that mentality exists but he does not know you to judge you that way.
 
Posted by Katie on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:47 PM
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Tiffany Doan LPN
Tiffany Angel Doan

 
OOOOH Nikki his comments pisse dme off! How dare he presume to "Dr Phil" you on interracial dating? I had this very conversation with girls in my class in nursing school and you wouldn't believe the backlash I got for considering myself Caribbean not African American. I have a long line of ancestry from the West Indies and I identify with it much more than being a first generation African American. I just don't think it applies to all of us, especially us West Indians. I would prefer the term African descent because that is what I definately am or Black as well because I just don't feel that I am an African American woman. Me saying I am west indian does not mean I don't respect and take pride in my African heritage but at the same time I am a west indian. I feel like alot of Americans are sooo insecure with the color of their skin and hair they have to look for the light in everything, having a yellow baby with "good" hair. That drives me nuts and I hope people don't lump you and I into that group because I am with my husband purely out of love not some need to design a baby that was gonna be lighter than me. I am glad you put a stop to that jerk contacting you~ you and I are way tooooo open minded to box ourselves into dating or loving one race. I myself have found the one so I am off the market but I would not and have never let race be a deciding factor in who I date or love. Love is too pure to rules on. I have blow up your page enough just glad I am not the only one who doesn't really identify with the term African American.
 
Posted by Tiffany Doan LPN on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 1:45 AM
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Pisceskitty

 
This was an extremely interesting post...

I have experienced this myself when I was engaged to a Philipino guy a few years back. There seems to be a double standard when it comes to interracial dating. I think people should love who they love, and everybody else needs to mind they're own damn buisiness! Every black person who is in a interracial relationship, isn't suffering from self-hatred issues. Though I've met a few, most people are together because they love each other, and share common interests.
It definitely takes thick skin to be in a one of these usions. Though my persoanl preference is black men[99.9 percent of the men who approach me are black] I always smile when I see interracial couples..especially when they are with they're little one!
 
Posted by Pisceskitty on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 1:50 AM
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Stefhen fd Bryan
Stefhen Bryan

 
lets put it this way: you just didnt get my point. anyway, my book is now available in paperback and Im sure my point will be clear if you read it. my intention was not to offend you. so if i did, im extending my deepest appologies. why would i decry your interacial dating when I have dated interacially only. you misunderstood my statements. if you care to check my book, heres the website.
http://blackpassenger. com

looking forward to hearing from you
 
Posted by Stefhen fd Bryan on Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 10:08 PM
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Lovely

 
Black Americans came up with the term 'Black' to unite all African decent people. I think its great and sounds powerful to me. Not everyone African decent is okay with being called African. And not all Africans are okay with Black Americans being called African American. People say white and so what. Its just representation.




 
Posted by Lovely on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 5:09 AM
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Lady Willow
Tousha Peoples

 
Hey Nikki
I understand you to the T. People always got a misconception about me dating Asian man. They be like why you can't date Black man. I say don't get me wrong i love my black man but I can't help it that I'm really into Asian man. I have always been since i was a teen. But i did dated black man but always turn out bad. I know my soulmate is a Asian guy and my dreams is to have a family with that person. That's my opinion and no one can't say or stop me for having it. But till then I'm going to school and work on my career.
Love Asian Man! lol
 
 
Posted by Lady Willow on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 3:01 PM
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