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Status: Single
City: NEW YORK
State: New York
Country: US
Signup Date: 7/13/2005
Saturday, December 22, 2007 

Current mood:Insanely Sad
My father passed away this week. Those of you who know anything about me or my life and family know that my father was easily my best friend. I spoke with him daily and I loved him without question. Without a single regret or word unsaid.

I always joked with him about having gone into the wrong business as he was easily the funniest person I've ever been around. As great as a record producer and record man as he was, he easily could have written for Seinfeld or Curb Your Enthusiasm. Easily. Too easily.

He and I had both gone through a weird run of health issues of late , he had beaten Prostate cancer and I had spent the whole of last summer keeping my eye on him making sure he was cool.He, in his typical style was far more concerned and interested in my well being than his own. My health was far more important, thats just how he was.

I even recently moved back into his neighborhood in Manhattan so that we could spend more time together. For the 2 or so weeks since the 28th of November,I spent a grand total of about 9 days in my apartment after moving in before doing some traveling. I spoke with him everyone of those days I was in my new place and hung out with him for lunch or dinner including my birthday ( Nov 29th ). Im glad I have those experiences. They sound simple and sort of mundane, but guess what? They aren't. Im really numb writing this right now.

Here are a couple of facts about my father's career you should know. He signed Roberta Flack , Bette MIdler and made classic albums with them. Regarding Roberta Flack he made her only classic albums actually. He also co-produced the Roberta Flack Donny Hathaway duet record. Before he produced pop / r&b stuff he was a jazz guy and he worked with and produced Joe Zawinul , Chick Corea, Les McCann , Eddie Harris ,Stan Getz, David Fathead Newman , Rahsaan Roland Kirk,Keith Jarret,Gary Burton,Charles Mingus , Charles Lloyd, and so many other artists I cant even begin to list them all.He is also the only person ever to do a session that had Dr. John and Kate Smith in the same room. For those of you who even know who both of those people are , you know that that's about as hip as it gets. I didnt even mention Aaron Neville , The Neville Brothers, The Allman Brothers or Leon Redbone. The names are just popping into my head as I type.Nothing about my fathers work was safe, straight down the middle or compromised. Was every album a hit? No. Did he ever work on crap for a check? No.( well once but Buddy Rich was a prick and the check was big and he got yelled at for a solid week..so you know what?..fuck you buddy rich...how's that you prick? Lets see what you and your black belt think about that? ) My old man was a straight up guy. He didn't understand or have any interest in playing into the business politics of the record business. He just wanted, and did , make great music. he was in the RECORD business. Not what we know today as the record BUSINESS.

He was the kind of guy that would jeopardize his career to help someone. After Rahsaan Roland Kirk suffered from a stroke a record executive at the major label he was signed to ( both the label and the executive will remain nameless ) refused to pay Rahsaan/ Keep in mind, Rahsaan was a blind man who had just suffered a debilitating stroke. My father, Rahsaan's producer , but more importantly Rahsaan's friend, locked the executive in his office the old fashioned way by jamming a chair under the doorknob and then proceeded to shall we say convince the executive in question to make sure a certain check was delivered that afternoon to Rahsaan. My old mans career in fact suffered from that passion and that event, but at the end of the day. I wouldn't want things any other way. He didn't take any shit and he did the right thing for his friend in need.

From middle period of his career until his dying day he only cared and dealt with the legacy of unissued recordings (with the exception of producing Jane Monheits first couple of albums).He had the unique experience of being able to reissue recordings of not only many of the Atlantic artists he loved but many of the recordings he had in fact produced ( maybe he was a smart business man? ) Major labels dont really care about music for the most part ( a fact we now know to be true and see on a daily basis ) My father and I actually ran a reissue label together called 32 Records at the and of the 90's that also acted as a conduit for a lot of those Atlantic Records reissues. He loved Atlantic.

On the day of his death He was literally working on a 60th anniversary box set for Atlantic Records which he was dedicating to Neshui Ertegun ( I've never known how to spell their names ,I'm sorry if I messed it up again, I do love that BIG MAC, the studio manager at Atlantic Studios back in the day used to call Ahmet, OMLETTE!!!.......genius ), . I will now be taking over that project and dedicating it to my old man , with the thought that the idea was to have it honor Neshui,but now it will honor both of them. Nobody else ran the jazz at Atlantic. If you think you did, Im sorry if im insulting you, You did not. He was the living steward of that collection and its number one fan. It was a two man operation. Neshui and Joel.

The interesting thing about my father is that , unlike a lot of his peers who got caught up in grammies and making millions of dollars and career goals is the following. He really only cared about his family and our well being. Im not painting the man out to be a saint here. He was a terrible business man, something we always laughed with him about.He'd make 50 and spend 51...and I loved him for it.I used to think it was something that was a big deal , but you know what. It doesnt mean a single fucking thing. He really only cared about us. His kids. Business isn't for everyone. I'll never forget him paying for my first semester of college in cash from a car he sold , he then borrowed a car and san legal license drove me to school and paid the nice people in the bursors office in cash. He'd also fed ex me walking around money while I was in school as well. He'd literally stick cash in the envelope and send me $40 of his probably $80 bucks to his name at the time.He wasn't a guy that gave a fuck about rules or cared what anybody thought save me and my brothers. He wanted me to have bass strings and food money. He was just that kind of guy. Wouldn't hesitate to give me anything he had on him.

Some fun fathering facts about joel dorn

he liked to tell strangers I was adopted ( I always got a huge laugh out of that )

He liked to ask me if I wanted to go to the local toy store in philly and then change his mind everytime I said yes. ( I was 7....and knew it was funny )

He liked to whistle/sing in public at the most awkward times ( I hear larry david does the same thing. Larry, my old man and you would have been great friends )

He once asked a woman my mother worked for if she could cash a check for him, she responded by saying yes but wanted to know how much was the check for , he said "A penny" she said ( totally missing the joke) "why on earth do you need to cash a check for a penny? He said " I need some walking around money"

he turned me on to Laurel and Hardy , WC Fields , Fellini , Miles, Motown , Wagner , Tex Avery , Seinfeld , Sam Cooke and Lenny Bruce and to me he was as hip , cool and funny and soulful as any of them.

Always, he just liked to laugh with us, his sons, and hang and make sure we were cool.

Even while going through radiation treatments for prostate cancer, he made it down to everyone of my gigs last summer. If I was doing something. He was there. Period.

At the end of the day......grammies? snore........hit records?........snore.....schmoozing with record business weasels to help his career , snore........( my father actually snored btw)....he was just about us and always there for us. That's what I loved most about him and will continue to always love about him. He made things right, he always let you know you were loved.

My old man and I both love sports and I take delight in knowing he went out still being able to throw a 98 mph fastball. He still had it, Luckily I didnt have to see him lose it. He went out strong as a bull.

My father was the fucking best. Joel Dorn 4-7-42 - 12-17-07 best father ever.

That's all I gotta say for the time being.

be well,

or rather as my father liked to sign off,

"keep a light in the window"

adam dorn.
All Natural Izza™

 
So sorry to hear about your dad, Adam. Sending warm thoughts your way.
 
Posted by All Natural Izza™ on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:21 PM
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JAMES THOMAS DAVID GONDER
Thomas Gonder

 
Adam, my friend, although we dont know each other personally, I have not only admired your work but I admire you as a person as well. You obviously have a big heart, and I thank you for sharing your feelings the way you did. My heart goes out to you at this time and you have been so blessed with your dad's presence. Just know, okay?, his presence will always be with you.

Hugs, my friend, you'll be okay. And have a wonderful Christmas. Thinking of you, and you are in my thoughts and prayers.

God Bless.

Cheers, Tommy
 
Posted by JAMES THOMAS DAVID GONDER on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:22 PM
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Mike Piehl

 
Sorry to hear, Adam.
My condolences.
Stay strong!
 
Posted by Mike Piehl on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:35 PM
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G's Joint

 
Classic...They don't make them like him anymore Adam. You're a chip off the old block.
All the best to you,
Greg
 
Posted by G's Joint on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:35 PM
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Kathie Talbot

 
Hi Adam,

I just saw that you'd posted this and you're so fortunate to have had this priceless father/son relationship. He seems to have been a wonderful human being...a rarity.

I wish you the very best at this incredibly vulnerable time.

All the best,
Kathie
 
Posted by Kathie Talbot on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:36 PM
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WOLF

 
I started writing a long comment...
it was turning into a novel...
so I deleted it...

I'll just say this:

-spot on-
 
Posted by WOLF on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:37 PM
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John Kruth "Splitsville"

 
Beautiful, Adam your dad was one of the greatest guys I've ever known. He gave me a shot when I was seein' nothing but closed doors. He asked me to write "something fantastic" and whether I did or not is besides the point - just having the Masked Announcer calling in that booming baritone was all the spark I needed. I used to buy records that he produced even if I didn't know the artist - got a good education that way and heard some amazing sounds. Talking to your dad on the phone was always a joy - frickin' hilarious man and a whole lotta soul. As singular as his artists, Yusef, Rahsaan, Mose, Leon Redbone, that he worked with - so was your pop - Joel's passing has left a void about the size of an airplane hangar in my heart - As your dad always said "I'll talk to you later." Truly, JD Kruth
 
Posted by John Kruth "Splitsville" on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 7:53 PM
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benny cha cha

 
Beautiful Adam. You are truely your father's son. His void is easily felt.
b
 
Posted by benny cha cha on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 8:28 AM
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Bibi Green - Greenhouse Management
Bibi Green

 
The light is on...for Joel and you and your family. No doubt Joel's light will shine forever. Big hugs to you Adam.

Bibi
 
Posted by Bibi Green - Greenhouse Management on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 8:28 AM
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Jessica

 
Shit Adam. You said that really well.
My heart goes out to you.
The world is a poorer place without your dad here, but I have to say that I take great comfort in knowing you're carrying the torch. I can tell your dad's spirit is definitely in you, and for that I am terrifically grateful.

There are so many things about your dad that I loved, but here's one thing that stood out and still blows me away:
I ran into him one day in the lobby of the Hilton during the IAJE conference. We exchanged pleasantries for a minute, and then he held up a plastic bag full of tapes and CDs and with a bit of a panicked look said: "I gotta get out of here. People keep giving me all this music and I got way too much to listen to."
I told him sheepishly that I usually left most of that stuff behind in my hotel room when I left the conference. He explained (in a very non-judgmental way) that he felt compelled to listen to every demo tape anyone handed him. "These people pour their heart into their music, the least I can do is give it a listen."

I learned a lot from your dad, but maybe the most important thing I learned is complete respect for musicians. Oh yeah, and that love and music are way more important than money.

Sending you a lot of love,
jessica (the Borders jazz buyer)
 
Posted by Jessica on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 8:30 AM
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Reid
Reid McClure

 
Adam, I'm saddened to learn of your father's passing. Your tribute to Joel is touching and shows us all what great father-son relationships are all about. I hear Joel in your work and as long as we do his legacy will always be with us.
 
Posted by Reid on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 8:30 AM
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t.

 
Dude sorry for your loss...he indeed sounded like a cool ass mf'er! Wish i could've knowned him, maybe in the next Life...

Peace ma friend
tania
 
Posted by t. on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 8:30 AM
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Boogaloo Bill
Bill Brackin

 
Adam,

I love the passion you have for you Dad. It is the same passion that you display in your music. After reading your letter honoring your father, I now know where from you inherited that passion. I am thrilled to hear that you will be finishing his last work and will carry on his torch. I too love Atlantic Records.

Please come see us in Seattle again soon. I absolutely loved your performance at Bumbershoot.

Boogaloo Bill
Everett, WA
 
Posted by Boogaloo Bill on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 4:03 PM
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Josh Alan Friedman
Josh Alan Friedman

 
Once again, I say Joel Dorn was the last of the great record men still working. And thus, a terrible loss. An absolutely brilliant speaker, story teller, wit, hipster, talent scout, record conjurer, and as was always obvious, a great father. I also witnessed how tough he could be on the street. But a 98mph fastball? No shit? I believe it.
 
Posted by Josh Alan Friedman on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 4:03 PM
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Jillionaire

 
Have to agree with all, losing my dad last year @ this time...well nothing will ever be the same. Numb is the appropriate feeling.... How lucky are we? Our Dad's were the best! How lucky are we, not too many of us have had the coolest, funny,generous people to call DAD!
You take care, and as my dad said, love,love, love....jill
 
Posted by Jillionaire on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 9:41 PM
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Josh

 
I never had the privilege of meeting your father, but i really feel like i got a good sense of him after reading this post.

Apparently I have him to thank for you getting me into Lenny Bruce.
 
Posted by Josh on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 2:28 AM
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NANCY DANINO

 
Now I know more, and I understand.
These kind of men never really leave,
Be well Adam,
Nancy
 
Posted by NANCY DANINO on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 11:28 AM
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Paul (Hi)

 
I'm so sorry to hear this Adam. I have a lot of great and hilarious memories from the time I got to spend with him.
 
Posted by Paul (Hi) on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 4:52 PM
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afternoons in stereo

 
adam,

so sorry to hear about your father passing away -- my heart goes out to you, bro. i hope that you are able to bear the great loss you have had with as little pain as possible. it sounds like you had a wonderful dad, and that is perhaps more rare than you know.

like any well thinking lad, seems you knew to cherish every moment of every day with him and you'll have a long lifetime of beautiful memories from which to draw happiness, strength, and love.

a small piece of comfort in a time of great mourningm but a piece nonetheless.

GREG VICKERS
Afternoons In Stereo
 
Posted by afternoons in stereo on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 12:07 AM
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Veronica Electronicka

 
A person doesn't die when he should but when he can. --Gabriel García Márquez

i salute u and more importantly - Joel Dorn.

stay cool and keep doin' ur thing...
 
Posted by Veronica Electronicka on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 7:58 AM
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Eluv - Radiant Sol

 
Mate, good on you for posting this!

You are blessed to have had such an awesome dad...and he was blessed to have such an awesome son!

I love that you have shared this deeply heartfelt and personal part of your life. It is an honor to read your words, and glimspe this amazing relationship you and your dad had. Thank you.

Keep this light in your heart, he is always with you in spirit shining his love onto all you do.

Wishing you Healing, Love and Blessings...

Love Eluv
 
Posted by Eluv - Radiant Sol on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 5:52 AM
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Steve
Steven Bunn

 
hey i just discovered your music today, and i think its awsome. Specialy cause my grand father was a big band director and mastered all the horns. Boots Randalgh took lessons from him because he liked my grandfathers tyle on the tiner sax. His name was William Vest.

When i first heard your music i thuaght of him, and what it must have been like to here him play. The talent and compusure it takes to make the music you make takes work and a calculated methotical aproach. Something that is missing in the mainstrem, all that stuff is brainless.

That skill came from the suport of your father, after reading this i see your source of talent.
Thats what he left behind for you, what you have become. Nice to hear some musical art for a change man.

The way the internet has pirated everything, live big mand shows would prolly be profitable? Im sure you would know the answer to that better than i would.

i just wanted to say i like your style and God bless i know your father is smiling down from heaven with folks looking over his shoulder as he points you out sayin, "Thats my boy right their".
 
Posted by Steve on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:24 PM
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Rhonbus

 
Wow Adam, I know I am late to this, but my sincere condolences, I can tell you love yer Pop very much. I feel I am a better person for having this story shared with us... sounds like a fascinating man and especially so as a father, something I strive for with my children.


Bravo good sir, rest in peace. Again, Adam, thanks for sharing.

 
Posted by Rhonbus on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 7:28 PM
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