Just minutes after the new video was released on myspace, we were already decoding it on the stage6 forum. there have been lots of files uploaded and links to them, and the "code" in the film has been decoded, and we've even managed to use the soordinates to locate Mono lake in california...
 

are you talkin bout the short hand "code" the one consisting or letters and numbers?
 

4673 47 25483
38.01667
Its so Dark where I am
Help me
Botch Mom
Let us kill


are all the words an numbers written that I've seen so far. I'm going to try and see if I can hear what the whispers are outside of the window. But I don't know how to seperate sounds and play it backwards. That's what it sounds like you need to do in order to figure it out. Anyone know how to do that?
 

38.01667 is the latitude coordinate to lake mono, also the longitude coordinate is shown, -119.00833, it's shown right after it's so dark where i am. 28 on the time
 

yeah i isolated it played it backwards... its hope saying... "what are you doing? mom stop it your scaring me " i dont remember exactly now... but also there is a male voice... saying over and over "can you hear us, you hear us when you sleep " good job with all the other stuff though
 

if you read the numbers backwards...it might be her age or the kidnappers age and social security...and the second numbers might be how many miles was on the car that she was in when she got kidnapped...i hope this is helpful and that you guys can find her.
 

BENEATH THE STILL
WATERS OF A DARK
LAKE DOES DAMNATION
OR REDEMPTION WAIT

FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM
 

He is missing one. It is getting me very frustrated... He missed one inbetween his 6 and 7. I can catch it on this myspace video. If I had a tape player I probably would be able to. Even a DVD. But it is a long saying that goes too quickly. I'm sooo pissed I can't make out what it says.....
 

how did you come to the conclusion that is what the numbers meant
 

so here is everything i found...
the unscrammbling of this: ORARNGU GUR FGVYY JNGREF BS N QNEX YNXR QB RF QNZANGVBA BE ERQRZCGVBA JNVG SVIR FGNTRF QBG OBGPU QBG ZBZ= BENEATH THE STILL WATERS OF A DARK LAKE DOES DAMNATION OR REDEMPTION WAIT FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM

4673 47 25483= HOPE IS ALIVE

Then i have these numbers, not sure what they mean yet
-119.00833
38.01667

the words...BOTCH MOM
and
LET'S US KILL

also i saw a target looking picture of some sort...trying to put it all together
ill get back to you if i find anything else
 

I'm glad someone else saw the S ..let(s) us kill
 

Dude i found something in the "Somethings wrong with mom" video. i was goin through it frame by frame and i found this, ORARNGU GUR FGVYY JNGREF BS N QNEX YNXR QBRF QNZANGVBA BE ERQRZCGCBA JNVG SVIR FGNTRF QBG OBGPU QBG ZBZ. i decod this whole thing using a decoder wheel. it spells ou " BENEATH THE STILL WATERS OF A DARK LAKE DOES DAMNATION OR REDEMPTION WAIT" then their is a space and it says " FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM. i dont know what the last part means. but there u go. i hope u find her. message me back when u get this. lettin me know u got it
 

what the hell is satanicy? and how do you know she is BIPOLAR? Are you relating bipolar disorder to the occult?
 

ive seen the strange circle near the end ist just as the camra goes staticy before hope is on the other side of the door it looks lke a crop circle sign but im lookin in2 it also if the lights were out why was moms eyes shinin at 00:46:47 then didnt shine at 00:46:59 i dont know if that would qualify as a cule or not but contact me if you think im on 2 something
 

I discyphered the cypher!
BENEATH THE STILL WATERS OF A DARK LAKE DOES DAMNATION OR REDEMPTION WAIT.

FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM

These coordinates -119.00833 and 38.01667 are to Mono Lake in California

I found the same stuff everyone else seen, but the sounds is the hardest. With the outside scene i heard, "IT'S TOO DARK, GET AWAY FROM ME, WHO R U" after Hope asks "do you hear that? I also hear "surprise suprise"

Hope i found something new!
 

I got a diffrent location with the lat and long. either way i do believe if you are looking at the boyfriend as a suspect...his car did have park passes/stickers in the window of his car. Cant make out anything other than 07.
 

He is military. Those were window stickers. To get on base.
 

i don't know if this is significant or just because of the quality of the video... in the abduction part where we see hope being taken, when the abductor first comes out, it has no legs, but a shadow of them. you can pause the video and see it.
 

the symbol on the package is in the video. i'm guessing it just has something to do with California? and i really want to know what the note sayyyyys.
 

Ok, I just deciphered the "Beneath the still water" thing.
What gets me is the "Five stages dot botch dot mom"
Well botch means to mess up...
and the "DOT"'s make me think that this is a website,
so, what if we need to rearrange to get a .com URL
(i.e. fivestages.thomb.com)
Which that is NOT it, but maybe I'm onto something?
Well I'm still working on it.

yes 4673 47 26483 does mean,
"HOPE IS ALIVE"

The coordinates DO match up to CALI.

And I did see this target towards the end.



Any ideas?
 

DOT department of transportation?
 

same symbol apperas on the no parking sign in "nocturnal behaviors" when she walks into a shop er shop type thing
 

Ok, I just deciphered the "Beneath the still water" thing.
What gets me is the "Five stages dot botch dot mom"
Well botch means to mess up...
and the "DOT"'s make me think that this is a website,
so, what if we need to rearrange to get a .com URL
(i.e. fivestages.thomb.com)
Which that is NOT it, but maybe I'm onto something?
Well I'm still working on it.

yes 4673 47 26483 does mean,
"HOPE IS ALIVE"

The coordinates DO match up to CALI.

And I did see this target towards the end.



Any ideas?
 

Ok we all knoe it's Mono Lake and I'll go even farther to say it's Black OPoint at Mono Lake... call it a hunch... (dark... black... get it?) But what of the Target lookin thingy that pops up at 47:00? My theory is the San Fran Inter. Airport

I came upon this by accedent. It looks similar in many ways but... it's not quite there. let me know what you think.
 

also found that when the lights go out and she looks out the window, there is a voice, and i believe it is something backwards, but it is quiet and i cant tell. it would make sence that it is backwards as the mom is bipolar and possably satanic.
 

botch.com is, or was active gateway to RPG gaming.
Could be significant.
 

The woman isn't bipolar. She's likely suffering from some type of split-personality disorder caused by some recent trauma of sorts. I think her boyfriend should be questioned, since he knows her intimately and has abusive tendencies. Maybe he rattled a screw loose in her head, who knows? I was thinking on the Botch. Mom. thing and my guess is those are the names of the two personalities in this woman's mind. If this "Botch" is homicidal, there must be something that causes it. The witching hour must play some sort of role in her madness. Possibly something happened during that time that causes insomnia and madness to take ahold of her. Looking fw to the next vid.
 

thank you for clearing that up... I've dealt with bi-polar people and this woman is definitely not bi-polar.. she is completely unaware of what she is doing. this is why she cant recall calling hope in the other video. BUT.. i do believe that in one of these video's it says the boyfriend committed suicide.

anyways.. as far as the clues go i came up with the same as every one else... well, the obvious one lol.. i couldn't make out the voices in the window scene.. and some how i missed the coordinates.. but i saw everything else lol.. although i must admit i am not quite sharp enough to work them out yet.
 

the coordinates say shes in mono lake california.
 

ok this is puzzling me right now. If you watch the first video, and watch the part where she is holding the phone and you can hear the phone call, who is holding the camera? it is obvious that someone is holding it because it moves, but who?
 

well as alot of ppl put together the codes and the coordinates but the last line of the long code "FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM" may relate to the 5 layers of the glyph near the end. something also caught my eye in the last glitch but it just happens way to fast for me to even get close without going frame by frame so if someone could look for me that would be great ill tell you if i find anymore coralations of events
 

The picture at the end with the phrase "Lets us kill" is within a line drawing of Mono Lake, CA and the island within it.
 

If you consider these numbers as latitude and longitude they will lead you to a spot in Mono Lake, CA near Negit Island and Paoha Island. It doesn't work exactly though.

38.01667 = 38deg, 01hrs, 66.7sec
66.7 seconds? that doesn't really make sense

-119.00833 = 119deg, 00hrs, 83.3sec
83.3 seconds? eh...see what I'm saying.

One thing that did make sense though is that I solved this

ORARNGU GUR FGVYY
JNGREF BS N QNEX
YNXR QBRF QNZANGVBA
BE ERQRZCGVBA JNVG

SVIRFGNTRF QBG OBGPU QBG ZBZ

It says

Beneath the still
waters of a dark
lake does damnation
or redemption wait.

five stages dot botch dot mom

or
fivestages.botch.mom
or
5stages.botch.mom


also 4673 47 25483 = Hope is alive

I am currently at a stand still though.
I documented some other clues that haven't resulted in much yet.

Give you more when i got it,
Jeff Heath
 

4673 47 25483

It can't stand for 'Hope is Alive'

The first 4 is an H.

Yet in the second word, it represents an I.

There goes that one.....Anybody have any other leads?
 

On a phone the 4 is the letters "ghi"
 

That's weird because it does say something about the BOTTOM of the lake. The coordinates come up when you freeze frame the video. Watch carefully.
 

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?address=130%20W%20Gurley%20St&city=Prescott&state=AZ&zipcode=86301&country=US&title=%3cspan%20style%3d%22margin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22adr%22%3e%3cb%20class%3d%22fn%20org%22%3eLatitude%3a%20119%2e00833%3cbr%3eLongitude%3a%2038%2e01667%3c%2fb%3e%3cbr%20%2f%3e%20%20%3cspan%20style%3d%22display%3ainline%3bmargin%2dbottom%3a0px%3b%22%20class%3d%22country%2dname%22%3e%3c%2fspan%3e%3c%2fspan%3e&cid=lfmaplink2&name=L%27Atitude&dtype=s
 

i think that -119.00833 is a latitude or longitude for the area where hope is.... im still trying to decode 4673 47 25483 i have a few ideas.
 

well i was going to let you know the info i found, but it looks like people beat me to it haha. -119.0083 was another number, i dont know if someone else already covered that.

hope you figure this out!
 

I typed in the "beneath the still waters of a dark lake does damnation or redemption wait" to see if any possible related subjects would come up on yahoo...but the only thing even related was something about the game Splinter Cell and that a creepy voice says it to you over the phone.

It kind of sounds like something from an ancient tome or script.
 

Hey man i just watched your videos for the first time (the second first); anyway i kept reading all the clues but the only clue i was able to decipher was the message displayed when mom was slashing her knife;

ORARNGU GUR FGVYY
JNGREF BS N QNEX
YNXR QBRF QNZANGVBA
BE ERQRZCGVBA JNVG
SVIR FGNTRF QBG OBCPU QBG ZBZ

it reminded me of a game i used to play when in junior high, i kept writing different type of codes and my friend used to crack them, anyway if u notice all the letters have space, as if they were words yet they have no meaning, well its a simple matter of guessing what each word means, starting with the simplest one N, well what word only has one letter, A, if we assume N = A then we can also assume this is true

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M

If this alphabet code is true, then the message really says:

ORARNGU GUR FGVYY
BENEATH THE STILL

JNGREF BS N QNEX
WATERS OF A DARK

YNXR QBRF QNZANGVBA
LAKE DOES DAMNATION

BE ERQRZCGVBA JNVG
OR REDEMPTION WAIT

SVIR FGNTRF QBG OBCPU QBG ZBZ
FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM

BENEATH THE STILL
WATERS OF A DARK
LAKE DES DAMNATION
OR REDEMPTION WAIT
FIVE STAGES DOT BOTCH DOT MOM

Well its obvious this is the answer because in another message of the video (when u see moms eyes for the first time) a message bellow says botch mom, so i looked for the meaning of botch on wikipedia to find to meanings, the first is a wrestling slang that is used when the wrestler makes a mistake like falling before your opponent makes contact, the second meaning is a British slang meaning a clumsy, messy, inelegant or inadequate solution to a problem.

But the message says Five Stages .Botch.Mom, why the dots, i don't know, the meaning of this message eludes me, maybe with more clues i could figure it out.

4673 47 25483

A person left a comment on the video on my space tv, he claims that this means
HOPE IS ALIVE
well i dont know how he figured that out but the letter E is used twice and both times its 3, yet I is also used twice but on one its 7 and the other is 4.

I believe that this has another meaning. If im wrong i ask people to write the meaning and how they figured it out.

The last numerical message is
38.01667
i have no idea what this means.

There is also a strange drawing of a circle just before you see Hope locking herself in that small room. Another strange symbol appears surrounding the words LET US KILL. I suggest you search for any meaning these drawings might have.

Now lets go to the more obvious clues everyone can see. The letters on that appear on the video.

HELP ME
ITS SO DARK WHERE I AM
BOTCH MOM
LET US KILL

Another interesting clue was a voice talking when the lights go out, i cant make out what it says but with some cleaning equipment it is probably possible to discover what he/she says.

The truth is after seeing all these clues I believe that she was kidnapped by a cult of some type, if she was trying to become a journalist she was probably investigating something or someone, i would also check the connection of this supposed cult and the mother and Lewis.

If you need any more help I have requested you as a friend, contact me without fear.
 

the numerical code that spells out "hope is alive" is done by using the buttons on a telephone, like one touch texting.
 

there is no use point out what has already been stated but heres something i notice hasnt been
4673 47 25483 when decoded it spells out HOPE IS ALIVE.


i have but one question, i have noticed since the first video that it says this is an alternate reality game, is it really or is that your way of getting help to find your fiancee by taking bad situation for yourself and turning it into something for everyone to help what you may miss?
 

i don't understand this at all, but i noticed it when i had the video paused & i kept doing the rewind and fast forward thing. i couldn't make it out until i finally caught it with the 'prt scrn' key. i hope someone can decode this & maybe figure out what it means ;


 

ok i isolated the sounds played them backwards... iits hope saying "what are you doing? are you crazy? mom your scaring me " hope this helps.. there is another voice in the clip though... somthing about you can hear me when you go to sleep you can hear me when you are... i dont know past that.... hope this helps
 

http://www.upload66.com/file/9687/extracted-zip.html

here is the extra audio around 45 seconds (the phone). It appears only in the left channel of the audio track. This is the only place where the audio channels differ.

I cannot make out what she is saying. But it sounds something like:

"This is my original... Please assist me... "

I have amplified the volume and boosted the bass. If you want the original, let me know and I'll upload.
 

so the number 4673 could be refering to a protine in a gene that is used to connect DNA or could be also mbe a noational vonerability research referance number and apperantly 47 is the is the quint essental random number and aperantly there is a society deticated to this number if she read anf action books in a fictional novel there is a charictor Agent 47 (or "Mr. 47") she could be refering to an assassin aperantly there is also a photography thing involving the number 47 there is not much i could fing about 25483 it may have something to do with EPA or air protection act but 472-5483 is a phone number of a landscaper in canadia, a photographer, a restraunt in chicago, law offices, and 4673 47 25483 could possibly be a forgin phone number? but not sure someone else should put these togather cuz im in class but there you go
 

I belive she is some where north of san fran. if you look at the numbers it looks like Lon/lat. I put it in and around the area lat. some where in the golden gate national rec area
 

this is what we came up with

the numbers 4673-47-25483

then there was a number like this-119.00833 not sure if the negative means it's suppose to be backward or not

then when she's talking it says "help me" on the screen

then was something that said "it's dark where i am" in the static

then when she sees her mom it says "botch mom"

also it sounds like the whispers say "where is my hope" and then too times says "where are you"

then there are these letters together
orarngu gur fgvyy
jngref bs n qnex
ynxr qbrf qnzanguba
be erqr(the next letter might be the letter z or L)gvba jnvg


svir fgntrf qbg obgpu qbg zbz

then there is what looks like to be a bulls eye

then at the end it says "lets us kill"
or "let us kill"


hope this helps
 

see many more clues here:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21409

the lake is mono-lake.