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Status: Single
City: Los Angeles
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 8/18/2005
Thursday, April 09, 2009 
Hi everyone –
The inclusion of a version of Tears For Fears’ Mad World on American Idol last night has drawn a lot of attention in the last 24 hours.
As grateful as I am for the interest in the song and for the folks who have said such nice things about me, I feel like I need to clear up again, and hopefully for the last time, a few points about the version of the song that my friend Mike Andrews and I did for Mike’s original ‘Donnie Darko’ score in 2001 — mostly because it makes me very uncomfortable to have people give me credit for stuff I didn’t do.
I don’t know why the story gets changed around, but it does, and it’s not fair for the other folks involved. I’m sure that the mistakes are not intentionally vicious or even purposeful most times, but inaccuracies cause problems for everyone, including me — and they are totally unnecessary. I think we’re all able to understand a slightly more nuanced tale now and again, right?
Basically, the story (again) as I know it is this . . .
I am the SINGER of the ‘Donnie Darko’ version of Mad World, and that is all. I didn’t write it — it was written by Roland Orzabal and originally sung by Curt Smith, who are collectively known as Tears For Fears. Mike Andrews and I first heard the song on the brilliant Tears For Fears album “The Hurting”, one of our favorites in highschool and since.
Further, it wasn’t my idea to do the song. It isn’t my recording or my arrangement. It was NOT recorded for my album “Trading Snakeoil for Wolftickets”. Our version was originally recorded as an end-piece to Mikes’ score for the movie ‘Donnie Darko’ (though in the theatrical edit it ended up playing in the film itself). I was allowed to put it on ‘Snakeoil’ because at the time we had no idea if the movie was ever really going to get released, and we thought it was cool — another song that Mike and I did together that we thought was cool.
To be perfectly clear: The sound of our Mad World, like the rest of the original music in ‘Darko’, was born in Mike’s brain alone. The arrangement — the simple, plodding, muted piano, the cellos, the tone, the emptiness, the beauty of it. Even the effect on my voice when it says Mad World. All of those decisions were his. The world that my voice lives in on that recording was created solely by Mike.
Some details, again for the sake of clarity:
Mike is one of my oldest and closest friends. We’ve been making music together since we were kids. So while I was mixing tracks from my album “Trading Snakeoil for Wolftickets” (which Mike and I also made together) at another friends’ house, Mike was working all day every day on the score for ‘Donnie Darko’. I would come by his house and play him the mixes I was working on, he would play me new pieces from the ‘Darko’ score.
For the end of the project Mike decided that he wanted to do an 80’s cover (since ‘Donnie Darko’ was set in the 80’s) but in the very spooky and identifiable style of his score music from the film — to marry a piece of the 80’s to the modern score.
Listen to Mad World and then listen to the rest of my music — super different. Listen to Mad World and Mike’s own records — not quite as different, but still different. Listen to Mad World and the rest of Mike’s ‘Donnie Darko’ score — EXACTLY THE SAME!!
Point is, Mike chose Mad World for the end of ‘Donnie Darko’ . . . and on what turned out to be one of the most fateful days of my life, he called and asked me to come and sing it. I don’t know why, but he did.
So I’m the singer, and because of that I get a lot of credit — some warranted, some not. In reality, if it weren’t for Mike, that version wouldn’t exist, period. There would not have been a Mad World in ‘Donnie Darko’, on the “Gears of War” ads, or on “American Idol”.
And it’s not just Mike, the song has become popular for a lot of different reasons:
– The folks at Everloving Records (Andy Factor and Wayne Greene specifically) have worked very hard at tremendous expense to get the score album out into the world and to try and protect those of us who are intimately involved with it — and have dealt with an immense, nearly criminal, amount of bullshit for their trouble.
– Richard Kelly’s ‘Donnie Darko’ was released in the UK and very well received, and it became a cult phenomenon here in the US, which drove the song further and further into the public consciousness.
– I myself have been all over the world singing and talking about the song on the radio, TV, and the internet.
But mostly, I think people just reacted to the song, and the way that it’s perfectly framed so that the essential and undeniable truth of the song arrives unencumbered by the music that supports it. It makes people FEEL something. That has something to do with Roland’s words and melody, it has to do with my voice and delivery, and it also has equally if not more to do with the choices that Mike made for how to present whole thing. That fact was tested and proven again last night when Adam Lambert sang the song his own way with Mike’s arrangement (basically), and 30 million people loved it.
OK, winding up: we have tried very hard and been through a lot in the last 8 or 9 years to have people understand the truth of where our version came from because it’s very much who we are as friends and as individuals. It’s important. Important to us personally, and important for anyone who wants to be able to live in a creative community where you can work with people you love, make a living, and not have to worry about inadvertently fucking your friends over to make the story easier to swallow.
We can all understand complicated stories . . . especially when they’re true.
Thanks for reading this far, and thanks for listening.
GJ
Marie
Marie Meadowsong

 
Well said :)
 
Posted by Marie on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:41 PM
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Jesse

 
I like what you said about "f-ing your friends over to make the story easier to swallow."....Something to always remember!....Spokane, WA 2009....F-ing BLAST,
 
Posted by Jesse on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:41 PM
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Bryan

 
God, Gary, I totally understand where you're coming from. ........As a creative, myself, I completely get the idea that most things that are great are not created by one person alone and certainly not in a vacuum. Kudos (seriously) to you for being such a stand-up guy who's quick to ensure everyone understands where credit is due - and to whom.........I, too, loved the TFF original version of the song - and it was one of my favorites in high school. Guess there are loads of us 40-somethings out there who can attest to the power of words, arrangement and what it takes behind the scenes to get good music into the average Joe's head.........Thank you for setting the record straight and for being such a great example of what it means to be a true friend - I've never met you, but if you'd be half as good a friend to me as you are to Mike, well, the world is definitely a better place with you in it!........Peace,....Bryan
 
Posted by Bryan on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:42 PM
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Hoe Boy
Joseph Aranda

 
You're a very good friend for taking the time to clarify to everyone the details of the song.......always been a fan.....:)
 
Posted by Hoe Boy on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:42 PM
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Melissa.............
MELISSA DURAZO

 
Regardless, the song itself is a wonderfully, timeless written piece of music history, created by Tears for Fears.....And, your and Mike Andrews' version, is and will always be beautiful, brilliant and dark.....And, the fact that the song is being brought to this new generation of the masses through American Idol is awesome.....!!..;)
 
Posted by Melissa............. on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:42 PM
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Today its just Caleb
Caleb Wagner

 
was wondering about all that thanks for keeping us all straight... your other music is good to even tho Donnie Darko and mad world got me to start listening...
 
Posted by Today its just Caleb on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:42 PM
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**amanda** ☮

 
:)....i still think you are an amazing singer
 
Posted by **amanda** ☮ on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:43 PM
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Jo

 
I fell in love with your style when I heard my sister-in-law playing the Trading Snakeoil cd years ago. I still love everything you do because you have a distinct style and sound. The Donnie Darko version of Mad World is amazing, but I imagine your true fans love you for your consistent talent over the years.

 
Posted by Jo on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:43 PM
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Random Task
Rachel tippy

 
You are so talented, and I first heard of you because of MW. It's so cool to see how important it is to you that your friend gets the credit he deserves. Whiskey For Everybody is one of my all time favorite songs, so thank you for all the great music you make.
My baby really likes it too ;)
 
Posted by Random Task on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:43 PM
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Shannon
Shannon Cohen

 
You're right! So sorry for all the mix up with people! That sucks! But you're right about the song... the first time I heard you're guys' version, I filled up with tears because of the way it made me feel. It gave me goose bumps.
And well, when I heard it from Adam on American Idol, it made me feel the same way! Thank you to you and Mike for making such a great song!
 
Posted by Shannon on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:43 PM
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AnnM

 
You know, Gary, I have seen you do this before. You are expert in redirecting the limelight to others, like when you introduced me to Rami Jaffe at the Hotel Café, and in your interview with the Seattle music lady. To give credit where credit is due is not a common trait in this “all about me” world. I admire you for that.........Hugs, Ann....
 
Posted by AnnM on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:44 PM
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Rom & Dom Conscious Egoz

 
This song is what drew me to your sound and now while Mad world is a great song your original pieces of work are in my opinion better for my fav song by the Jules its "Nothing"
 
Posted by Rom & Dom Conscious Egoz on Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 11:44 PM
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Patrick
Patrick Hough

 
Gary, you are a class act. ........Cheers!....- Patrick
 
Posted by Patrick on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 1:53 AM
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Mary is Me

 
For years you have been my go to singer/songwriter, always one of my favorites, a constant on the mp3 player, and perfect for soo many occasions, for soo many reasons. ........I admire that you truly do want the truth about creative collaborations and resources out there for your fans to understand. It is very stand up of you in a sit down and steal ideas world. ........There is such a moody personal feel to your original work that will always snag a friends attention in the car, or spark a conversation when someone pops by my desk at work. Whether it is for the truth in the lyrics or the unmistakable beauty in the melody behind the words. ........I will always admire you for your honesty and integrity, and the truth I feel in your voice when I listen to any of your songs.........P.S. My favorite will always be BoatSong, My good friend who passed away recently, for her own reasons took a lot of comfort in "Birds, Birds, is all we heard before she flew away." For that I am eternally grateful.

 
Posted by Mary is Me on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 1:53 AM
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Gary Jules

 
Clarification: Adam Lambert story..Email this Story....Apr 9, 5:42 PM (ET)....NEW YORK (AP) - In an April 8 story about the version of a song performed on "American Idol," The Associated Press reported that contestant Adam Lambert sang Gary Jules' arrangement of the Tears for Fears song "Mad World." The story should have made clear that Jules was the vocalist and collaborator on that version of the song, which was arranged by Michael Andrews.
 
Posted by Gary Jules on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 1:55 AM
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Arete's Praxis

 
Knew all this already but it doesn't hurt to go over it again if necessary...myths have a way of popping up again and again. Sometimes it is almost impossible to stamp out like the 10% of the brain is used myth.
Keep up the wonderful music:)
 
Posted by Arete's Praxis on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:38 AM
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Chad Gerber

 
a true artist. Thanks Gary.
Not many of those around
 
Posted by Chad Gerber on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:38 AM
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MISSUNDERSTOOD

 
Well Written!
 
Posted by MISSUNDERSTOOD on Friday, April 10, 2009 - 11:39 AM
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SARA
Sara Dyke-Kuhlman

 
Nicely put...and if everybody did their"homework" what u just wrote here would be no big surprise to us fans....Thanks anyhow!
 
Posted by SARA on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 2:07 AM
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Ellen

 
Great to have a chance ro read the whole history - Thanks for taking the time and effort to write it. You should save a copy of this text to have it as part of your own historical record.........- Ellen....
 
Posted by Ellen on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 2:09 AM
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Robin Danar

 
respect, gary. having done a "producer-as-artist" CD with many awesome vocalists on it, i know what it's like to be on Mike's end. your acknowledgement of his work is awesome.....having said that, he also made a great choice having you sing it. you're right.....it's an AWESOME delivery and it was a major contribution to push the track over the top and get it the respect it deserved.....
 
Posted by Robin Danar on Saturday, April 11, 2009 - 7:56 PM
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A23P

 
It's nice to see that someone willing to take credit for their part, but to also not hide behind the illusion the music industry so often creates.

 
Posted by A23P on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 6:25 PM
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Rhyssa
Rhyssa Scott-Smith

 
I love that you took the time to clairify your process with this song. I love every version for different reasons. However I wish to put out there that the visual that was created for your and Mike's version of this song is pure brilliance and takes my breath every time I watch it.....<3 rhyssa
 
Posted by Rhyssa on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 9:05 PM
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Linda Duyer

 
Thanks for the explanation. ....Your story of this makes me appreciate the song even more, and I didn't think that was possible! Bravo to composer Roland Orzabal and bravo to the Great Interpeter (your friend Mike Andrews), and all who have interpreted it such as yourself and Adam. Interestingly, comparing the versions, the song stands on it's own no matter the version, each version is uniquely special. Adam's amazing interpretation is as amazing as your's and everyone else's. That's because of the special qualities of the song. The timeless and timely lyrics, the clever and haunting music, will ensure the song lives on as a modern standard.

 
Posted by Linda Duyer on Sunday, April 12, 2009 - 9:05 PM
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GloryBug
Colleen De Koning

 
Thank you so much for having the integrity to set this straight. I love your version of Mad World, and Mike's plodding vision of it- so much more compelling, even though I am also a fan of TFF.....It drives me effin nuts when people on the internet do not correctly attribute songs to their writers- Sheryl Crow and 'The First Cut is the Deepest' is a perfect example... Nice that she covered the song, but nobody bothers to give credit to Cat Stevens for writing it. It's really bad on the 'lyrics' sites.... any band that covers a song gets credit for writing it. ....I love your 'Devil keeps Grinning' song, which is why it's on my myspace page-- but you would laugh if you looked up the 'lyrics' for it. They give you credit for it, but they mangle the words and meaning in a mind-boggling way.....Anyway, thanks for clarifying. As a songwriter and performer, I've always given credit when I've covered another band's song, and have appreciated it when people who've covered my songs give me credit.....c
 
Posted by GloryBug on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 1:22 AM
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gypsytricia

 
My comments would be far too long to read, so I'll suffice and say thank you for your integrity, although I do think the reason people love the song is a combination of (obviously) arrangement and your own soular connection. The world thanks you for putting up with the bullshit that has gone along with this unexpected treasure. You are an inspiration on many levels. Namaste.

 
Posted by gypsytricia on Sunday, April 19, 2009 - 3:13 PM
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Jim

 
Thanks Gary, It is a very nice version and I feel it when you sing it.

 
Posted by Jim on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 12:30 AM
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Luz

 
Love the song and how you sing it! :).. 
 
Posted by Luz on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:11 AM
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♥Tjs Girl♥

 
I still love your version better, it just gives the lyrics more meaning and emotion.. 
 
Posted by ♥Tjs Girl♥ on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 12:24 PM
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fullmoonhigh

 
Thank you Gary for explaining everything AGAIN. I understand how tiresome this must be for you. Though to me Mad World is one of the few if not the only cover version of a song that is better than its original version it's true what you say that your own and Mike's music are very different and for my taste, feeling and heart a million times better. Just keep doing what you're doing, I'm loving it ! xoxo.. 
 
Posted by fullmoonhigh on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 10:13 PM
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fokker

 
dude, I read this knowing NOTHING about it besides the possible link to a Tears for Fears tribute or cover or perhaps original. I wasn't sure. I also heard it on Idol, but honestly the prolific, life altering fabulous performance on your part brought my attention to the original Gears of War commercial, which has spawned dozens of sales of that title, as well as the sequel. so, needless to say if they aren't paying ya a big ass check regularly, they should be. either way, awesome track, thanks for the FYI and again, two thumbs up. I wish you nothing but success.. 
 
Posted by fokker on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 9:22 PM
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ஐ~*Liz*~ஐ
E P

 
Thankyou for taking the time to write this. Well said.
 
Posted by ஐ~*Liz*~ஐ on Monday, May 11, 2009 - 2:01 AM
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Newhardt Family

 
I'm glad you cleared that up, but I want you to know Gary, it is your artistry that shines through also! I heard your version first, then went back and heard the tears for fears version, though they are the same song, the arrangement Mike did that you sang is so much more what the song is about. At least for me and I suppose, a lot of others too.
Thanks for sharing your talent with all of us.
DN
 
Posted by Newhardt Family on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 11:11 AM
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Tracy

 
Class act for taking the time, man. 
 
Posted by Tracy on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 8:41 PM
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Tonic Kaos

 
Snakeoil album is still one of my all time favourites (regardless the Mad World) and I can promise it's in a very good company :) It was also great to participate in your UK tour mate! Kristian

 
Posted by Tonic Kaos on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 2:42 PM
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Vik

 
Wow. Being from Australia I never knew there could be such a drama about this song. It was also sang on Australian Idol a number of years ago and there was never this much stuff going on about it. From memory it was actually mentioned that it was a Tears for Fears cover that changed the arrangement somewhat.

Anyway, I never realised until today that it was you :) I just found your music because of a song on the Catch and Release soundtrack and then looked you up on iTunes to see if I loved your other music as much...

I did :)


 
Posted by Vik on Monday, August 03, 2009 - 4:17 AM
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Moses Vale

 
..Though understanding and thankful (as i'm sure you are) of how this song helped propel you into being known, I always find myself hoping people will move on from it and respect all the art you've made and continue to create. ..
 
Posted by Moses Vale on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 3:12 AM
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