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Gender: Female
Status: In a Relationship
Age: 39
Sign: Gemini

City: St. Louis
State: Missouri
Country: US
Signup Date: 9/7/2005

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November 13, 2009 - Friday 

Current mood:  awake
Category: Romance and Relationships
I was TRYING to sleep, unsuccessfully, I might add so I got up and started to look through some old blogs and noticed that as much writing as I have done, I have not really written much on self deception and long term relationships.  Huh?  I know right...I'll explain as I have been guilty of this in the past as well.

Self deception as it pertains to long term relationships is the process that is used to minimize the flaws in a relationship so one can rationalize not leaving it.  Okay, the office of Dr. Stang is officially open.  Check this out.

A woman is in a relationship with a man that she is very sure is cheating on her.  She has caught him so many times in the past, he won't change his behavior and some very familiar signs of his infidelities are surfacing again.  Why does she stay?  Well, other than for love, she has convinced herself that no matter how many times he cheats, he always comes home, therefore, deep down, he really loves her.  Furthermore she has convinced herself that if she is patient and sticks by him that he will see that she is loyal to him and will, at some point, reinvest in the relationship because he'll see what a good woman she is.



This woman is lying to herself so she can be comfortable accepting behavior from him that she knows is unacceptable and that under normal circumstances, she would not tolerate for a second.  Self deception.

You know what, I'm so on it that I just struck a nerve with my damned self.  I just wrote "Furthermore she has convinced herself that if she is patient and sticks by him that he will see that she is loyal to him and will, at some point, reinvest in the relationship because he'll see what a good woman she is."

I have to put myself out there and say that on more than one occasion, I have gotten caught up in that fuckery.  I have given men who should not have gotten a second glance, the license to run amok with the belief that at one point, they would see that I was different than other women they had dated in the past.  I was so good, I had also gotten myself to believe that they just needed the chance to see that I was different instead of just kicking those relationship underachievers to the curb.

Women are not the only ones guilty of this self deceptive behavior.  Men, may actually be MORE guilty of this behavior, believe it or not.  Women tend to self deceive because they are in love and hope things to change or "get better".  Men tend to self deceive because their ego requires it and they are going to MAKE things "get better".  Pay attention to what I just said, women HOPE things get better and men are going to MAKE things get better.  So, when men self deceive, it's almost like they do it with a time limit in mind.  Women self deceive LONGER while men self deceive more OFTEN.  Make sense?

Cool, okay, now we've gone through all that to say that people need to stop bullshitting themselves.  If your relationship is bad then take the steps with your partner to work on it or get out.  Lying to yourself and thinking things are better than they are or things are not as they seem is emotionally taxing and helps to pack that baggage we talk about so often.  No one can lie to you like you and if you consistently lie to yourself then over time you have no inclination to believe what anyone else tells you either, even when it is the truth.

CyberSoulSista

 
Now that's 100% real right there, Sis!  We as women also deceive ourselves to think once you marry the man, he will stop cheating, WRONG!  If he's cheating on you before you get married, he will continue to cheat, but we deceive ourselves.  I did that the 1st time, never made that mistake twice.

 
Posted by CyberSoulSista on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:25 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
I have deceived myself on many occasions.  I convinced myself that some relationships were getting better and they wern't, I convinced myself that some relationships were not as bad as I thought they were and so on and so forth.  The biggest lie I told myself in some cases though was that eventually, the person I was with would treat me the same way I do them..........eventually.  I'm so glad to be out of all that, that shit is stressful....LOL



 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:35 PM
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Keith
Keith Jones

 
I can truly relate to this blog and not only in reference to relationships!
 
Posted by Keith on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:38 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
Lie to yourself much, do yah?

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:48 PM
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Keith
Keith Jones

 
Deviating from practice is what I all it.
 
Posted by Keith on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 11:58 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
Whatever works for you

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 12:20 AM
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Keith
Keith Jones

 
Do I detect a hint of cynicism?
 
Posted by Keith on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 1:31 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
Lmmfao!!  I'm always cynical!  I thought that was why you showed up.

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 12:29 AM
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SilverOak
Jeremy Horne

 
You raise a very good point to ponder here form what I have observed in the relationships of others.

 
Posted by SilverOak on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:50 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
"form what I have observed in the relationships of others."

Out of curiosity, you said the relationships of others, have you never embellished the ideas of your own relationship and stayed longer than you should have?

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 1:55 PM
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SilverOak
Jeremy Horne

 
I am generally pretty good at recognizing the potential that a relationship would be unhealthy before they start. I have had 4 relationships in 22 years. You were correct in the case of my marriage. I was the one willing to try to fix things. The other 3 ended reasonably amicably by recognizing when we wanted different things in 2 cases and when it was drifting into unhealthy territory early on in the 3rd case.  I have not entered into a relationship in the last 10 years so have nothing recent to relate to your observations.
   As far as friendships, I am good at addressing things early on and only those who chose to adapt with me remain my friends.  Those I allow to be close to me are rare and have generally proved themselves first (barring the few who slipped past my intuition).  I am generally the one who addresses and executes preventative or corrective measures or cuts the ties if there is no indication that the other person is willing to work with me.

Family is always family, so the best I can do in those cases is keep my distance and do the best I can.

  Thus most of what I can relate to in this is observations about others.

 
Posted by SilverOak on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 3:05 PM
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Shamefully Proud

 
Relationships, before I got into my current relationship, had become a business partnership because of all the bullship I had endured.  If I practiced self-deception back then, then I'd be married by now.  I could have used a little.  Hell, I wouldn't mind living in a shell.  I could benefit from living in a shell.

I started to look to men who were good on paper that could help us sustain a very comfortable lifestyle for relationships and ultimately marriage.  I was checking all my emotional investments at the door.

The best way not to get hurt is to halfway get involved.

Then love struck my ass!  We've had some real issues because he has a lot of personality flaws and he is definitely the ENTIRE problem because I know I'm perfect.  You're right it's definitely about wanting to work together to iron out the kinks in relationship.

But I do know that before I fell in love with this dude...I was looking to build a corporation, not an emotional relationship.
 
Posted by Shamefully Proud on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 2:28 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
"We've had some real issues because he has a lot of personality flaws and he is definitely the ENTIRE problem because I know I'm perfect."

YOU are a hot mess and of COURSE you're perfect... , there is no doubt in my mind.  I used to consider using the relationship to build a business on but I watched my parents live out a business relationship in their married and I prefer to keep my emotional attachments and have my separate business dealings.

I like the way it feels to look forward to seeing or hearing from my b/f.  I would not trade that for the convenience of a business relationship but I understand what you are saying about the emotional disconnect, sometimes it just seems easier but I've learned the hard way that if I have to lie to me to have it, I don't need it.  That's one thing that's so cool about the relationship I'm in now, I an just be me and that is workin for everyone...LOL

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 2:45 PM
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Howard
Howard Janapol

 
In my experience if a woman that I was dating was not keeping the agreements that we made then they are gone. I don't care about excuses. I don't cheat and when I get involved with a woman I mean what I say. It is serious business for me. I am not sure that that works with this generation. I think you have covered the reasons in your last few blogs. I may sound like a hard ass. In fact I am a hard ass. Relationships are to important to make excuses.  Peace, howie

 
Posted by Howard on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 3:20 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
"In my experience if a woman that I was dating was not keeping the agreements that we made then they are gone."

I respect your thinking and understand what you're saying completely.  I used cheating as an example but truth is, people lie to themselves to justify staying where they want to weather it's good for them or not.

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 4:05 AM
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a Masculist
Patrick Houston

 
Yeah I can say i was guilty of this in my last relationship as well I never knew if she was actually cheating on me even though people around her were telling me otherwise. She never showed any signs of infidelity, and people generally didn't like her "style" at work anyway. i never cared to listen. Instead i always made sure she was happy, sexually pleased ,and i made sure she had something in her pocket no matter how small. So i belived that it was impossible for her to cheat on me because i had all of my bases covered. I could have been naive , but ill never know .....

 
Posted by a Masculist on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 4:33 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
Now I'm nosy, where is she?

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 12:42 AM
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Kira

 
Love your fourth paragraph and you are right about it. I noticed that difference between men and women.
 
Posted by Kira on November 13, 2009 - Friday - 6:27 PM
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Rainfellow
Scott Seguin

 
This may be something I can actually reply upon. 

I do have a female friend that, as described, falls into the self deceived department. She and this "guy", I'll call him being nice and all that, have known each other for over 10 years. I have only known her for the past 5, BUT in those 5 years, they have "broken up" several, several times. So many that I have lost all count. Sometimes it's for few months, sometimes it's only for days. She has told me some of the reasons for the break ups. Once it was because she KNEW he cheated on her, another was a thought of cheating, once even because he was hooked on "X" (I think that's how it's spelled - show's you how much I know), and the list gets sillier as well. I know FOR A FACT, because she told me, he used her to cheat and HIS fiance. And she thought NOTHING of it apparently. He even knows that he does stupid stuff and has even said, matter of factly, that he'll probably do some stupid stuff in the future. Being it money or what have you. So he KNOWS she'll keep taking him back, because she's told me SEVERAL times that this break up "is it." Only to let him back in later. She used to call me (and note the past tense there) and ask me "why". All I could give her was the typical "men are jerks" type responses. But it finally got to the point where whenever they broke up, anything I suggested to her, like blocking his number, tearing up his pics, or doing whatever it took to "forget him" would go in one ear, rattle around a bit to make her nod yes, and shoot out the other side. I told her that she was giving him a "free pussy pass" every time she took him back, and it wasn't for HER pussy. I told her that she was so blinded by him that she could come home from work early find him in bed with her sister and a goat and convince her that it was the goat's idea. The last time she asked for advice and wasn't listening, I point blankly asked her if his dick was THAT GOOD that she couldn't find someone else to satisfy her. She didn't get angry, but she didn't really respond with a yes or no answer.

As of right now, they're engaged, and probably will be for a good while. Living in a house that's in HIS name, so that if she get's pissed at him, she can just leave and have no cares. Yea, right. She'd be back in a heartbeat if he cried his eyes out to her. So from what I'm gathering is that they BOTH are self decieving since neither one seems to WANT to get over the other, but still seems to want something more. Does that make sense?? It's late and I wanted to coment on this before I had to head to bed for the 3am work tomorrow... sigh.. it's a life...

 
Posted by Rainfellow on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 3:55 AM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
Sounds like they are both self deceiving in the attempt to not be alone.  Some would rather live a lie than take the time, not settle and find someone worthy of what they have to offer.

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 12:41 AM
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Rainfellow
Scott Seguin

 
Then maybe that's the reason I'm still alone??   Naaa.... just hard to fine someone else as "perfect" as I am!!

 lol!!!!  

 
Posted by Rainfellow on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 2:05 AM
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~AyeMorena~
Aye TheOriginal

 
Been here, and done this. I honestly thought it was because I'm just a patient person. But finally started realizing that I was deceiving myself & that it was a dead end relationship.  Great Post. 

~Sys

 
Posted by ~AyeMorena~ on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 5:39 AM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
YOU have witnessed, first hand, many of my personal self deceptions as we have been friends for so long.  I think it's a common practice because our heart leads us to it.  It's easier, sometimes to play safe, self deceive and minimize the pain than it is to just deal with it heads up.  I know we've been there done that but that's how we learned about it.

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 12:34 AM
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FR3$H B!TCH *RSS*

 
i am a master of self deception there was a time in my life where i felt it was a necessary evil not so much in regards to relationships but in coping with some traumatic events in my life. I saw it as a technique for survival but all it does is postpone that day of reckoning the truth will always come out and at some point it will smack you in the face hard enuff that you will haveto respond
 
Posted by FR3$H B!TCH *RSS* on November 14, 2009 - Saturday - 6:04 PM
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100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤

 
"I saw it as a technique for survival but all it does is postpone that day of reckoning the truth will always come out"

I agree with you 100%.  That is a coping mechanism that is used to get through from day to day sometimes.  I have used it to allow others to hurt me and I have to claim responsibility for that.  You are also right, we do use it to get through other situations that are not necessarily romantically related.

 
Posted by 100% Real ¤¤§†ÃÑG¤¤ on November 15, 2009 - Sunday - 12:40 AM
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