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Last Updated: 11/18/2009

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Status: Single
State: Nova Scotia
Country: CA
Signup Date: 12/30/2007
Tuesday, July 07, 2009 
On March 31, 2008 Sons of Maxwell began our week-long-tour of Nebraska by flying United Airlines from Halifax to Omaha, by way of Chicago. On that first leg of the flight were seated at the rear of the aircraft and upon landing and waiting to deplane in order to make our connection a woman sitting behind me, not aware that we were musicians cried out: “My god they’re throwing guitars out there”. Our bass player Mike looked out the window in time to see his bass being heaved without regard by the United baggage handlers. My $3500 710 Taylor had been thrown before his.

I immediately tried to communicate this to the flight attendant who cut me off saying: “Don’t talk to me. Talk to the lead agent outside”. I found the person she pointed to and that lady was an “acting” lead agent but refused to talk to me and disappeared into the crowd saying “I’m not the lead agent”. I spoke to a third employee at the gate and when I told her the baggage handlers were throwing expensive instruments outside she dismissed me saying “but hun, that’s why we make you sign the waiver”. I explained that I didn’t sign a waiver and that no waiver would excuse what was happening outside. She said to take it up with the ground crew in Omaha.

When I got to Omaha it was around 12:30 am. The plane was late arriving and there were no employees visible. Although I was told later that it wouldn’t have mattered, I should have taken my hard case out of the padded protective exterior case to examine the guitar at the airport but I didn’t. The guitar case looked ok and we were tired, went to the hotel and then to sleep for our early morning pick-up by the tour managers the next day. When they picked us up in the early morning we would not be back in Omaha for seven days. It was later that day at sound check that I discovered that the base of my Taylor had been smashed.

One week later I returned to Omaha for my return trip. I explained what had happened and the United agent in Omaha said I needed to start a claim at the airport where the trip began (Halifax). So here is what happened next.

When I got home to Halifax I was told that United doesn’t really have a presence there and that Air Canada is their partner. Every plane I flew on that day said “United” on the side but technically they have no presence there. So, Air Canada gave me a phone number to start my claim with United. When I called the number United said I had to return to the Halifax airport with the guitar to show the damage to someone and open a claim. When I returned to the Halifax airport I met with an Air Canada employee, because United has no presence there, and that person acknowledged the damage, opened a claim number but “denied” the claim because Air Canada would not be responsible for damage caused by United employees in Chicago (which still makes sense to me).

I took the claim number and called United back. They never seemed to be able find the claim number on several subsequent phone calls but at the last minute it would always surface. I spoke several times to what I believe were agents in India who, ironically were the most pleasant, and seemed genuinely sorry for what had happened. Three or four months later I got directed to the Chicago baggage offices of United and after several attempts to speak with someone was told to simply bring in the guitar for inspection…to Chicago…from Halifax, Canada.

When I explained that Halifax is far from Chicago someone then said my claim needed to go through Central Baggage in New York and they gave me a toll free phone number. I phoned that number and spoke to someone. She couldn’t understand why someone in Chicago thought she would be able to help me but she seemed to feel for me and asked me to fax her all the information. I did and a few weeks passed with no reply. I called back and the lady said she’d never received the fax. Then I asked her to look for it and surprisingly, there it was. When she found it she asked me to give her a couple of days and to call back. I did, and by the time I phoned again two days later, the number had been discontinued.

I had to start all over again with the same 1-800 # to India, where they were as sorry as ever for what happened, couldn’t find my claim at first, and told me I needed to bring the guitar into Chicago’s O’Hare for inspection. Six months had gone by and the guitar had now been repaired for $1200 to a state that it plays well but has lost much of what made it special. I spoke to a customer service manager in India who promised to forward a note to have someone in Chicago contact me. I received a letter a about a month later from Chicago with no name or contact info, saying someone would be contacting me about this.

Another month went by and I received an email from a Ms. Irlweg, in Chicago I believe. Basically said she was sorry this happened and denied my claim. Some of her reasons included :

• I didn’t report it to the United employees who weren’t present when we landed in Omaha
• I didn’t report to the Omaha airport within 24 hours while I was driving to places that weren’t Omaha
• It was an Air Canada issue
• Air Canada already denied the claim (as I mentioned, because Air Canada would not pay for United’s damages), but I’m still unsure as to why I needed to report it in Omaha within 24 hours if it was clearly Halifax’s responsibility
• Someone from United would need to see the damage to a guitar that was repaired

So after nine months it came down to a series of emails with Ms. Irlweg and, despite her refusal to introduce me to her supervisor, our conversations ended with her saying United would not be taking any responsibility for what had happened and that that would be the last email on the matter. My final offer of a settlement of $1200 in flight vouchers, to cover my salvage costs repairing the Taylor, was rejected.

At that moment it occurred to me that I had been fighting a losing battle all this time and that fighting over this at all was a waste of time. The system is designed to frustrate affected customers into giving up their claims and United is very good at it. However I realized then that as a songwriter and traveling musician I wasn’t without options. In my final reply to Ms. Irlweg I told her that I would be writing three songs about United Airlines and my experience in the whole matter. I would then make videos for these songs and offer them for free download online, inviting viewers to vote on their favourite United song. My goal: to get one million hits in one year.

To date I have written “United: Song 1” and “United: Song 2” and I’m proud to now release the first video in the trilogy. The response has been incredible so far. Everyone involved in the recording of the track and filming/editing of the video has volunteered their time and pre-production work is underway for the filming of United: Song 2 (hopefully to be released later this summer).

United has demonstrated they know how to keep their airline in the forefront of their customer’s minds and I wanted this project to expand upon that satirically. I’ve been done “being angry” for quite some time and, if anything, I should thank United. They’ve given me a creative outlet that has brought people together from around the world. We had a pile of laughs making the recording and the video while the images are spinning on how to make “United: Song 2” even better than the first. So, thanks United! If my guitar had to be smashed due to extreme negligence I’m glad it was you that did it. Now sit back and enjoy the show.

Dave


You can watch the 'United Breaks Guitars' video at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo



Slinky

 
You could always go to Chicago and break what's left of your guitar over some United wonk's head. Explain to him that that's how we settle disputes up in Canada.

What? It could work.
 
Posted by Slinky on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 6:13 PM
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m

 
Perhaps you should amend your list of influences to add "United Airlines."

 
Posted by m on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 9:34 PM
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Mike Roadancer - Life 3.0

 
Well your campaign song for why musicians should not use united has gone far. Several local TV stations have picked up the story.

I think you picked a great outlet for the abuse United heaped on your Taylor guitar.
-Mike

 
Posted by Mike Roadancer - Life 3.0 on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 10:03 PM
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J

 
You are my hero!!! I just came through Chicago via United yesterday. The baggage handlers ruined my brand new case. I feel much better after viewing your youtube video! KEEP UP THE CAMPAIGN. Use your voice for the rest of us.

You can move mountains with this kind of advertising! 

 
Posted by J on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 12:57 AM
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tniemiec

 
Good job, Dave!
Best,
Ted / The Gizmos

 
Posted by tniemiec on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 5:03 AM
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Karen
Karen Malone

 
Awesome song and video. What a great way to bring attention to some really BAD customer service!

 
Posted by Karen on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 9:35 PM
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Gene Eric Mann

 
Wazzup?!

You ROCK!


Your video is hilarious, gutsy, and well produced. You have my respect, admiration, and sympathy. You also have my sincere word that NEVER hereafter shall I fly United -- with ot without my own guitars!

Peace, Blessings & Rock on!
Gene Eric Mann, Songwriter
MYTHOPOETICA
 
Posted by Gene Eric Mann on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 9:39 PM
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Freaktrain

 
United is now using your video as a customer service video. They just broke your wallet, too.
 
Posted by Freaktrain on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 12:02 AM
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Tenball Photography

 

I can understand how you feel! Back in 2000 I did a lot for traveling for work. So much so that in a little over 5 months I had reached gold status in their frequent flier program, although I only had a silver card the computer showed that I was gold status and upgraded. When they screwed up my travel they would not take care of me even when I said I would use my miles to take care of the problem. After completing my trip I told the people they would never see me on their planes again. I switched to Continental and in about the same 5 months reached gold status in their program and was upgraded on just about every flight I took after reaching gold with them. I will NEVER fly United AGAIN!


Russ
TenBall Photography

 


 
Posted by Tenball Photography on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 12:11 AM
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Tom
Tom Wolfe

 
Dave,
We are getting your message out on Facebook to as many people as we can. It is great to see someone take on these cretans of poor service and no responsibility. Thanks for doing this and fighting for the little guy who gets crapped on all the time. You and your band are our heroes.
Tom Wolfe
 
Posted by Tom on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 12:11 AM
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Johnnie
Johnnie Martin

 
I don't think I'll fly "United" and they should be held to blame, I have seen this kind of thing happen other places too.
 
Posted by Johnnie on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 1:01 AM
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Chris
Chris Keleher

 
I think your song is fun to listen to and I'd like to get the chords so it can become my summer campfire tune on the guitar.  I cannot wait to see the outcome of this and hope that they crawl to you with a restitution for not only your guitar, but for your time and efforts you've unnessarily had to make on their negligent behalf.  I heard you on C100 this morning and saw the news clips and you're doing great.  I really hope you do well and a lot of good comes out of this for you and your band.  So far so good!  
 
Posted by Chris on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 1:35 AM
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Char

 
Your video "United Breaks Guitars" is ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC--LOVED IT and emailed it to all of my friends.  Sorry about your problem with United Airlines, but that incident made the public more aware of you and your great music and video.  Looking forward to hearing more of your songs!!! /Charlotte    
 
Posted by Char on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 2:08 AM
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vocab mad

 
I heard your interview this A.M. on Q on CBC Radio. So glad to see someone take up the fight of the little people. We are in fact the ones that make the huge profits for these airlines. You can bet U2 doesn't fly United or any other airline because they have a private jet. As a music lover and one who knows how important an instrument is to a musician, I feel your pain. I'm looking forward to the release of United: Song 2 and 3. I think your success and notoriety should be the inspiration for all of us that feel wronged and abused by private corporations and government institutions. We may not all be able to write a song, but do whatever works including making videos and posting them on YouTube. As the John Lennon song stated Power To The People! Keep up the pressure and eventually they will cave,admit liability and pay you just so you'll stop making them look like asses, which they are. :)
 
Posted by vocab mad on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 5:31 AM
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windowshopping04

 
Great song and video!  We laughed so hard we literally fell off the couch while watching - not good for the laptop, mind you!  Here's wishing you the and your band the very best!  BTW, Taylor Guitars could not have PAID for such great product placement!

 
Posted by windowshopping04 on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 9:55 AM
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The Misery Jackals

 
Thanks fer the info.  We'll have to avoid that airline.

 
Posted by The Misery Jackals on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 3:44 PM
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