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Saturday 25/04/2009 

Current mood:  stoked
Category: Religion and Philosophy
I happen to be an Atheist, and I also happen to be a Socialist ideologue.  Not once in my life had I ever thought the two connected until I came across Pat Buchanan, Russell Kirk and Dr. Gerhardt Niemeyer.  They argue that every Western ideology (literally, save their own) is an attempt by Man to chart uncertain times in a post-Christian culture, "modernity's golden calf".

Quoth Buchanan:  "As ideologues believe themselves possessed of a true faith that has been denied to others, and see a golden future other cannot see, they are impatient with and intolerant of dissent.  Like many sects, ideologues tend to be exclusionary, to rely on one another, to promote their own, to punish all defectors and heretics, to form cliques and cabals - to realize the vision.  And as their vision is of a world that has never before existed, or existed only in the mythical past, they are prone to utopianism.  They brave new world is on the way - if only we keep the faith!" 

Quoth Kirk, in "The Drug of Ideology":  "'Ideology' does not mean political theory or principle, even though many journalists and some professors commonly emply the term in that sense.  Ideology really means political fanaticism - and, more precisely, the belief that this world of ours can be converted into a Terrestrial Paradise through the operation of positive law and positive planning."

Quoth Niemeyer, Notre Dame professor:  "All modern ideologies have the same irrational root:  the permeation of politics with millenarian ideas of pseudo-religious character.  The result is a dreamworld.

The lone exception is conservatism, which according to Kirk, stands at opposite poles from the ideological mind.

They could not be more wrong or offensive.  It is utter nonsense.  It is an a priori attack on atheists and secularists to call any behavior of ours religious, and it is a subtle attack on non-Conservative Christians by stating that their political beliefs stand at odds with their proper religious ones. 

Ideologies (mine, yours, everyone who has one) is nothing more than a philosophy of first principles applied to political logic.  No more, no less.  Nothing can divine the future, but coherent ideologies make it easier to form policy in the face of changing events, not to predict them.

To prove the suppleness and flexiblity of my mind, I will show how I have to come to change my mind on the issue of the Fairness Doctrine.  The Fairness Doctrine was first used by the national government to force a Socialist-owned radio station in New York to diversify the political content of their broadcasting.  So, not only was it anti-Socialist in origin, but it is a blatent violation of the 1st Amendment - the law of the land even if I didn't fervently believe in it (which I do).  Broadly speaking, the Fairness Doctrine was a set of F.C.C. regulations and favorable Supreme Court decisions that stated that as radio spectrum was a finite and public good, political speech used with it had to be balanced on controversial issues of the day.

Mark Fowler, a Reagan-appointed to the F.C.C., dismantled it.  He argued that not only was radio spectrum something that could be privately owned, but that advances in technology made it possible for many more stations to broadcast than before and in any event, the government could no longer violate Free Speech.

Setting aside the notion of who should own radio spectrum, even if Conservatives or Republicans owned 100% of political talk radio shows (when, in fact, they only own 99.875%) I would still support Mr. Fowler's position.  My problem is not in the restriction of other points of view, per se.  It is the irresponsibility talk radio has engendered in America's body politic.  I am not a Democrat, so I have no interest in seeing Democrat-talking points represented in radio.  Nor do I expect that Socialists have the financial or political heft to justify mass exposure on conservative talk shows.  But. 

In any functional and healty democracy (or even a polyarchal representative republic!), the nation depends on a governing Party (or coalition) and a Loyal Opposition.  It is fine - in point of fact, it is their job - for Republicans to oppose Barack Obama and the Democrats at most every turn.  It can be argued that Republicans should mostly support President Obama in the realm of foreign affairs, and it can be argued that Republicans should primarily care for the sake of their constituents, but by and large the minority party ought to oppose the majority party's agenda.  However, there is a fine line where the minority party still has to maintain loyalty to the nation and its political and social institutions.  

Talk radio is harming the country, by both dumbing down and radicalizing its supportive listeners.  It is doing this by means of propaganda, slander, and factual lies.  There is literally no self-imposed limit, no decorum violated, and no insult right-wingers and their pre-screened callers will not hurl on those with whom they disagree - but for the sake of ratings and advertising revenue.  It has devolved from political speech to incitement, and the result is increased calls for political violence, succession, and calls for rebellion.  By equating Barack Obama with every dictator of the 20th and 21st Century, they give legitimacy to calls to action used against those dictators which include vandalism, armed resistance, avoidance of taxes, and I fear, assassination attempts.  These are all crimes, and that is the limit at which I say enough is enough.

If the whales of right-wing radio do not roll in their hate speech, factual errors, and clarion calls to violence, then they need Ombudsmen on the air who can counteract their vitriol for the betterment of political discourse.  In this, as in many things, I do not alone have the answers for how to strike a proper balance.  But because of my 'faith' in democracy and remembering how Rwanda devolved so quickly, I believe a good community decision on this issue can be made.
Currently reading:
Day of Reckoning: How Hubris, Ideology, and Greed Are Tearing America Apart
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Release date: 2007-11-27
Hart Deer

 
Why are you focusing so much of your attention on incendiary right-wingers? It is indeed radicalizing you. This is the same reason I don't watch Bill Maher or the news. I know I don't need to get fired up about obnoxious liars and weasels of the opposition camp (and yes, Fox is that too to me, despite their supposed "conservative" slant). It makes one angry and then one gets polarized, extreme, and loses the nuance that allows one to see into others' realities and thus respond with the sort of thought that can be heard and appreciated by all, not just members of one's own camp.


Incendiary right-wingers have pushed you into wanting to use the Fairness Doctrine to reign in the free speech of right-wing talk shows, not because these talk shows are actually telling people to commit crimes (which they are not), but because dumb people get fired up listening to them and take it upon themselves to advocate crime. Ironically, your own not dumb but definitely reactive stance is to desire to violate the Law of the Land, the First Amendment, with "a good community decision on this issue". All of this despite the fact that you fervently believe in the First Amendment! I don't want to be incendiary myself, but I must sincerely wonder what "a good community decision" could mean if not something majoritarian.


Has it occurred to you that if you apply the Fairness Doctrine to radio, you must apply it elsewhere? For example, thanks to public education, the commodity of education is now a public good, so that means that if you impose the Fairness Doctrine on right-wing radio, it would only be fair to impose it on education. The left-wing secular camp may no longer have a stranglehold on public education. Students will get to choose between studying evolution and studying alternative models such as flood geology and intelligent design (hey now, intelligent design could just be an alien). Health curriculum options will have to be made available with contrarian courses teaching that alternative lifestyles are not okay, and not all choices regarding sexual conduct were created equal. On the plus side for you, counter-cultural history lessons would be offered.


In my opinion, application of the Fairness Doctrine actually makes sense with something like public education, where low income families' children are otherwise held hostage to the indoctrinating tools of policy makers. Public education, unlike the radio, can't be turned off by flicking a switch. Nonetheless, I brought it up to illustrate that you aren't thinking about the consequences. If the logic ever applies that, "free speech is being used irresponsibly here, so we can make a 'good community decision' and reign it in, if we can just get enough sticks waving to beat the bastards down who disagree", you are inviting people to question every application of free speech, and any time any large herd of people can make a case that free speech is radicalizing a section of society, the herd can trample.


This brings us full circle to your outrage over right-wing religious commentators' ideas about political ideologues. Let me attempt to somewhat loosen your polarity on this by pointing out that there are plenty of atheists- libertarians primarily- who would wholeheartedly endorse the idea that positive policy is a deluded and dangerous path. There are also, I am sure, Christian socialists who might endorse various welfare programs, but who are well aware that society must reform in the hearts of the people, and policies are not the way to reform society. Allow me now to take my own stab at the notion of positive policy.


It is not coincidental that "policy" sounds so much like "police". A "policy" must be "policed", for that is what a policy is, a directive to use police power against those who are unwilling to comply. I know I've said that before, but it can't be said enough, for it is of the essence of politics. Politics, policy, police-y. Therefor, it is not a leap of logic to suggest that those who wish to use policy as an instrument of social reform are those who wish to drum up just enough sympathy for their ideas (or complacency towards resistance) to beat down the dissenting factions, confiscate their goods towards the purpose, march them towards the goal, and smother the screams of their protest. Yes, those of us with such an opinion towards policy are rather horrified at the practice of using policy to reform society. We prefer to think of policy as a drastic emergency measure to be applied sparsely only where the life and well being of an innocent is threatened by a hostile force. In fact, we tend to think that where policy needs to be applied, we see evidence that society has already failed. Thus, we try to make society better in every way outside of policy, in hopes that in a more perfect union, a small handful of restrained policies might very seldom needs be enforced.

 
 
Posted by Hart Deer on Sunday 26/04/2009 - 4:12 PM
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