Cullen stalin: i'm going to NY because i am suing the city
m. arul: what?
m. arul: how?
Cullen stalin: i'm part of a class action suit... i was arrested during the Republican National Convention
m. arul: what does that mean
Cullen stalin: here:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-02-06-nyc-protesters_x.htmCullen stalin: there's a bit about me 3/4 through
m. arul: why did they arrest u tho?
m. arul: ok
Cullen stalin: check that link
m. arul: wow
m. arul: thats crazy
m. arul: why didnt u tell me bout it?
m. arul: 2, 000 people and 10, 000 police?
Cullen stalin: yeah... well i didn't know you at the time
Cullen stalin: and it was quite some time ago, you know, this was during the LAST election
m. arul: yeah
m. arul: so this is on goin?
m. arul: u r case?
Cullen stalin: yeah well, there have been a few different 'groups' who have sued the city
Cullen stalin: because people were arrested at different places and at different times
Cullen stalin: like they arrested a ton of bike riders... they arrested this one radical marching band... they arrested people at various locations
Cullen stalin: so the case against the cops/city is a little different in each case
Cullen stalin: but each time, different facts come out, about police infiltration, provocateurs, manufactured evidence, false charges, etc
m. arul: well i keep sayin theres a floor and a celing to this thing called freedom of speech
m. arul: and the more i say it the more i get shut down
m. arul: no way thats crazy
m. arul: they can do anythin gto u
m. arul: out u on the system for life
Cullen stalin: look at what happened to Cat Stevens!
Cullen stalin: of course it's wack to endorse a Fatwa on a writer like he did... but there are Americans who have not only promoted murder, but committed it... and they travel freely. They call those people 'diplomats'
m. arul: you know
m. arul: its hard to even talk freely on aim
Cullen stalin: yeah all this shit is captured
Cullen stalin: and they even tell you it is! The shit they used to do in secret, they do openly nowadays
Cullen stalin: Carnivore
m. arul: i get frustrated coz its so hard to reach kids
m. arul: i know
m. arul: they tell u we r goin to fuck u up
m. arul: for life everytime travel in the us
m. arul: even if im connecting flights
m. arul: i have to be interigated
Cullen stalin: basically they make regular life more and more like a prison
m. arul: yeah
m. arul: can u believe it?
m. arul: and when the next president comes in they'll jus carry on with that systm
m. arul: they wont change it or stop it
m. arul: or even slow it down
Cullen stalin: if you haven't read it...
Cullen stalin: i suggest checking out Michel Foucault's "Discipline and Punish"
Cullen stalin: the basic premise is really basic, but i just thought of it from what you were saying...
Cullen stalin: the main impact that they wish to achieve when they state that they are recording your conversations is this:
Cullen stalin: they want you to BEHAVE like they are recording your conversations. They want to restrict what you can communicate, your ability to transmit thought
Cullen stalin: that is far, far more valuable than any data they could gather from recording a million AIM convos
Cullen stalin: they activate the inner fascist
m. arul: yeah ofcause its the process
m. arul: check this
m. arul: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2815117.ece m. arul: so this guy was fighting the tigers and helping the government
m. arul: the goverment gave him money and ammo to fight for the last 4 years
m. arul: and look at what hes getting done for
m. arul: ?
m. arul: it doesnt make sense
m. arul: they r taking every tamil out
Cullen stalin: mmm... you're right
m. arul: and they going to kill the normal ones left
Cullen stalin: sounds like a front, a bogus charge
Cullen stalin: they want him in for other reasons
m. arul: yeah but if the government was truly disgusted by child soildering then they would have put him jail ages ago
Cullen stalin: oh sure, no i don't disagree
m. arul: they have found one thread that makes the tigers sound so ugly
m. arul: and they are going into over drive with it
Cullen stalin: i'm just saying, 'immigration offenses'... that's not why they want him
m. arul: exactly
m. arul: cullen if i tell u half the thing the army does over there ud want a lobotomy
Cullen stalin: well the same thing that makes the Iraq war an ironic and unexpected boon to Latin American liberation groups is what can make it easy to mop them up in other parts of the world
Cullen stalin: in other words... everyone's focused on Iraq
Cullen stalin: so things go on around the rest of the world and they're completely off the radar
m. arul: no but how do u monitor what the goverment is doin in srilanka because there is no war crime for over the table stuff
m. arul: you know
m. arul: the american government cant ignore thats can they , isnt it fishy that no tamil person can speak in the media?
Cullen stalin: basically if you toe the economic line of the US you can do whatever the fuck you want to ethnic minorities
Cullen stalin: as long as you listen to the World Bank and IMF and WTO... you're golden
Cullen stalin: bury whoever you'd like
m. arul: hey
m. arul: what if people read this
m. arul: would it fuck us up?
m. arul: i want to post it
Cullen stalin: no... that's what i'm saying... they want you to not even say this to people
Cullen stalin: go for it
m. arul: im already in prison
m. arul: so we have nothin to lose
Cullen stalin: exactly
Cullen stalin: "freedom's just another word..."