I love your perspective on this, especially coming from a music video director. It seems like you have so much for love, respect, and admiration for the video models out there, than the (as you would say) "ignorant fucks" that use the term on a constant basis...
I love that you have so much passion behind your response to the use of the term. THANK YOU for this!!!
 

I damn sure agreee bruh. every women black women they see in a video are video hoes i disagree whole heartedly. so if these women in videos are video hoes what about the play boy bunnies what about the chicks on hbo series the cat house who f..k for money are they considered hoes ? people disguss me the way they stereotype bwomen especially black women. last night i watched a special on video girls it was interesting. especially when they bout out Queen hoe her self super head and she started putting down the ladies in the videos. the never of the dumb broad. shit 99.9% of artist need these beauties to sell there video cause they aint talking about shit. lol really loud. i respect there hustle maybe there's 1 or 2 ones who make it bad. not really there just using what the got to get what they want. lol. keep grinding ladies and fat ass couch patatoes keep watching the video's and hating you sasquach
 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Two big thumbs DOWN for this blog. I'll come back and drop some jewels later.... don't have the time to right now.... but you I got you DAME! Prep yourself for an argument... you already know!! LOL
 

An arguement???? C'mon now...your blog site is digitalWHORE.blogspot.com...LOL!! I love the site and appreciate the artistic work that you do. YOU know that I check it REGULARLY for updates...lol.

I'm patiently waiting to hear what argument YOU pose..lol!!

*Gotta Love the Panther LOVE!!*
 

Hahaha. You are the BEST Dame. First off, let me start by saying that yes, my blog is digitalwhore.blogspot.com... However, since you check my blog so regularly, you would know that I explained the whole "whore" word play in my very first blog post. So, with that being said... that's the end of that.

Now, on to this blog..... Allow me to start by saying that I do not think that all video models should be labeled video hoes. I don't think that it is ever OK to generalize. However, with that said, there are some video hoes out there who are sucking and fucking any and everyone just to get on set or close to the artist. Not ALL, but SOME. Additionally, there is an alternate definition of the term "ho". You don't have to necessarily engage in sexual acts or be promiscuous to be considered a ho, you can also be called a ho if you are immoral (If you don't believe me, go look it up). And of course everyone's definition of what is right and what is wrong will vary greatly. I can only write from my own perspective, so here I go..... I think that when people use the term "video ho" that they aren't necessarily saying that these women are sleeping with everyone, but more or less commenting on the behavior displayed in most of the videos, most of which is highly sexual and vulgar with all the gyrating and booty popping being scantily clad and everything else. Not to mention that the majority of the time, the sole purpose of the women in these videos is to be the "sex object" or "hood ornament", or "the prize", or whatever you want to call it. And in my eyes... behavior of that nature is immoral. It communications a terrible message to people, and that is that this type of objectification of a woman is acceptable. The bottom line is that it is not acceptable. Now, I have seen a FEW videos that have video models that are done tastefully, and that I like... on of my favorite examples is "Soul Sista" by Bilal. But unfortunately, there aren't enough videos out there that are done tastefully. Most of them fall under the "immoral" category.

I think you were reaching on the whole "black people hating themselves. I don't think that's the reason people refer to some of these women as "video hoes" at all. You said "Advertisers adhere to the age-old adage that "sex sells" and models in videos are essentially selling the artist and the song". Yes this is true, but does that make it right? No, of course not. So, what's your point? LOL. I love your examples of the "deal or no deal" models and the "price is right" models, but I just want to point out that you don't see those models "dropping it like it's hot" and "booty clapping" in videos. It's more about the actions being displayed that is what is so controversial. Again, not all videos are like this, but most are.

Now this statement from you had me rolling! "I’ll even say instead of blasting these women, more folks should look at their positive attributes and emulate them. Especially the over-weight slobs that sit on their asses all day and watch music videos." Why are you so mad DAME? I mean really lol.

Let the debate begin!


Mz. Gunn... your fellow PANTHER.
 

Mz. Gunnz, c'mon now...

By saying "there are some video hoes out there who are sucking and fucking any and everyone just to get on set or close to the artist" is a very weak point because people have HOED themselves in ALL professions...even RELIGION (for crying out loud) so that's why the labeling is unfair and unjustified.

If you're criteria for calling them "hoes" is based on the way they dance, then damn near EVERY WOMAN I KNOW IS A HOE because honestly, there are VERY few that can say that they have NEVER EVER danced in a sexual maner - whether it be shaking your butt or just grindin' to a slow jam. Hell, I love reggae dancers who dance in a very sexually suggestive way. Do that means that all of them are HOES?? NO. Have you seen some of the dances that our ancestors did/do that originate from Africa???? If you can label someone a hoe because of how they dance, then I guess we are all Descendants Of Hoes. Now that may seem harsh, but that's how silly that argument sounds to me. You might as well say that they're "immoral" for celebrating their culture and heritage.



And homie...homie...homie, you also used Bilal's "Soul Sista" video as an example of a "tasteful" video. I love the video also but I will point out the fact that ALL the females in the video are BUTT ASS NAKED.



So let me get this right...you have a problem with someone being "scantily clad", but there's nothing wrong with flat out nudity?? That's just backwards.

D So you can't dance next to a car but you can pose ass-naked and that's acceptable????

When I referenced the advertisers, basically I'm asking "What's wrong with using sexy imagery to sell a product?" I don't see a problem with that as long as it doesn't break any obscenity laws.

And naah Sis, I ain't mad at all. I just think that people can take something positive from these women and learn how to take care of their health a lot bit better. Get in the gym and put the Cheetos down...lol. They should look at their fat asses in the mirror and then look at the desirable video models and use that as their motivation.
 

DAME - I do not find nudity inherently vuglar. Do you? Just because they are "butt ass naked", as you say, does not mean that the images are degrading to women. I think these images (to me) possess an artistic integrity, and it's easy to spot from just looking at the compositions, the angles, the lighting and the hues, etc.... The video is absolutely beautiful.

I think you misinterpreted what I was saying. The immorality come with just being scantily clad or dancing suggestively ALONE. The immorality comes into play with the message that is being communicated. THE MESSAGE. THE MESSAGE is wrong. It is immoral. When you have half-naked women, sliding down polls, gyrating all of the place, having liquor poured over their bodies, standing and dancing next to and on top of artists who spit lyrics such as "if you can't swallow, shut up bitch gargle" or "Girl i love how you clap dat ass the way ya booty cheeks move around when i tap that ass she twork it so slow" LOL. WTF?? I mean COME ON!!!! And you already KNOW that the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and oooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnn. Again, it's the combination of all of these things that communicate the immoral message of what I wrote about in my first response.

I don't think that the video ho is the sole "person" responsible for this crap. I think that there are a lot of persons in positions of power in the industry that hold some accountability for this problem. So, I don't think all the "blame" should be put on them, but they play a role in it by choosing to be a part of such negative degrading immoral inexcusable NOT TO MENTION unwarranted messages being communicated to the masses.

REAL talk.
 

I agree with you...that it is a beautiful video. I also think that some of the videos that may have females dancing suggestively are very artistic and beautiful as well. I guess to each his/her own. Dancing is an art in and of itself...even if it is suggestive. I guess you totally missed my point on how our ancestors had MANY dances that are sexually suggestive in nature. DOES THAT MAKE THEM HOES?????????????????? And like I said, EVERY ADULT WOMAN IN THE U.S. WHO ARE OF ABLE BODY AND NOT EXTREME IN THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HAVE DANCED IN A SEXUAL MANNER BEFORE IN THEIR LIVES!!!! All Of Them!! That doesn't make them "hoes". Period.

Morally, nothing's wrong with a girl dancing with or in front of a guy. If there is something wrong with that, then we're all going to hell.

This post isn't about pointing the finger at who's to blame because in my opinion, there's nothing wrong. BUT, if you wanted to blame someone, it wouldn't be the models...it wouldn't be "persons in positions of power in the industry"...the blame would have to lie on society as a whole - mainly the public who supports it. Trust me, if the people stopped buying CD's, downloads, ringtones, and concert tickets from artists who have dancing models in their videos, EVERY artist would put an end to having dancing models in their videos. As long as the people want it, the industry will keep on supplying.

Basically, it's not "negative degrading immoral inexcusable" to dance suggestively. You can disagree...but you'll be wrong. It's called having fun ;-) Lighten up homie...lol.

*Damon exits post and goes to youtube to watch Salt 'N Pepa's "Shake Your Thang" video. A video about shaking ass and having fun although SOME may think it gives "unwarranted messages" to the masses* LOL!!
 

Dame! Can you read??? LOL. I wrote that the immorality was in the message being sent to the public, and it comes from a COMBINATION of things (imagery, dance, lyrics, etc...) I wrote that.... like.... i dunno.... 100 times in the last post!!... It is not the dancing itself that is wrong. GO back and re-read b/c I don't know how to make myself anymore clearer than I already have.

...and models, artists, and industry folks DO play a role, and well as consumers as you said..... Including YOU. So just step up and take the responsibility.... it is yours whether you care to realize it or not.

I just think that we women have SO MUCH MORE to offer than our bodies and looks, and all the other superficial garbage that is put out there. As a woman, I'd like to see MORE videos that celebrate, uplift, and showcase us as multidimensional beings who aren't just limited to our sexual appeal.

LOL and I just love how I'm the only person on this post who disagrees with you. The cheese stands alone! But then again... that's always been me. Sometimes you have to move against the crowd!
 

Uhhh..yes, I can read. I got my ed-ja-ma-ca-tion from da same skool az u. lol.

I guess I (and everyone else) should just accept YOUR beliefs on what is MORAL and what is not. Since YOU wanna play God and pass judgement on what is right and wrong, can you please make every day a 70 degree partly sunny day with cool breezes flowing northwest at 5mph? Also, I'd like for you to make world peace and end poverty and sickness. If you can't do that Mz. Gunn, then why are you passing judgement again??

If I say it's ART then it's ART. The thing with ART is that it can be seen totally differently by whomever views it. That's up to one's own perception. You can dictate yours and I can do the same. Just cause dancing in a video is akin to devil worship in your eyes, doesn't mean that everyone else is suppose to see it that way.

I understand that women have "SO MUCH MORE to offer than our bodies and looks, and all the other superficial garbage that is put out there". Just like I feel black men have so much more to offer than being an entertainer or athlete and other things that are put out there. Does that mean that there's something wrong with being an entertainer or athlete? No. It just means I wish for more balance. Here's another example, I personally don't like it when dudes sag their jeans to the point where their boxers are showing. A photo of that person may circulate on the internet and some people from overseas might assume that ALL black men in America dress like that. It's not true but that's the message that they got from it. REALLY, they're just ignorant to the fact that we all don't dress like that. That's THEIR IGNORANCE. And if you ask me, even though I don't like it, that young man has the right to wear his pants however he wants to as long as he isn't breaking laws.

The same thing goes for the so-called messages that are put out there. Of course if you're an ignorant person, you might stereotype these women as a certain way. However, if you're open-minded and you are a free-thinker who doesn't sheep-ishly follow what others dictate to you, then you can derive your own message from what you see.

Oh yeah, about what you said about the message coming from a "COMBINATION of things", I think you're missing the fact that it's ALL just entertainment. Which means, it's not real. Therefore, it shouldn't be taken as serious as you're making it out to be in the first place. The women are models and dancers (they don't belong to the rapper), the cars are rented (most of the time), the flossy lifestyles that are portrayed are FAKE. Just like characters in movies who murder, rape, abuse drugs, fuck, etc., etc....it's all for entertainment and should be taken as such.
 

I have the feeling that this is going to go on forever.... but hey... I'm up for it! So.... let's do the damn thing!!

Again, Dame, reading is fundamental. I never once suggested that anyone should accept my beliefs as their own. As a matter of fact, in my very first response to this blog I stated that I can only write from my own perspective, so here I go.... Did you miss that? READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!! So, yes I feel that it is immoral. It's my opinion, and I am entitled to it. So, that's the end of that.

Calling me judgmental is actually a compliment in my eyes, although I doubt you intended it to be. I have been blessed with a discerning spirit. If I didn't have the ability to judge, there's a whole boatload of nonsense I'd probably be involved with right now. So, I truly thank GOD for that.

We won't even get into the whole "art" debate. Art is simply what one says it is. yadda yadda. blah blah. we all know that.... I was simply explaining why I love the "Soul Sista" video. So, we won't even go off on that tangent.

"Just cause dancing in a video is akin to devil worship in your eyes, doesn't mean that everyone else is suppose to see it that way." PLEASE TELL ME WHEN AND WHERE I SAID THIS?? Please refrain from putting words in my mouth. Thanks.

Next....

"I understand that women have "SO MUCH MORE to offer than our bodies and looks, and all the other superficial garbage that is put out there". Just like I feel black men have so much more to offer than being an entertainer or athlete and other things that are put out there. Does that mean that there's something wrong with being an entertainer or athlete? No. It just means I wish for more balance."

I said that I wish to see MORE videos that showcase the various aspects of a woman outside of her sex appeal. So just with that said, you can see that I addressed the fact that there is a lack of balance. The problem is that this kind of imagery is saturating the market. There isn't enough balance, and in my eyes that is very very sad.

Dame, sorry to have to be the one to alert you to this fact, but there are A LOT of ignorant people in this world. Some of them are ignorant by choice, but most of them are not. We have to spread awareness. This is why I feel that mediamakers should really pay attention and realize that the messages they disseminate are powerful. That's the bottom line.


YOU SAY...."Oh yeah, about what you said about the message coming from a "COMBINATION of things", I think you're missing the fact that it's ALL just entertainment. Which means, it's not real."

Duh... of course I know this, but again.. we are not talking about me. We are talking about the masses, a lot of which are unable to make the distinction between what's fake and what's real, and even if they can... some of them decide to bring that "fakeness"... that "entertainment".... into reality. Does this mean we should censor everything? Of course not...... that would be ludicrous. It simply means that we should be more aware of the part we play in all of this... and that this kind of thing is highly influential.... I mean.... that's the reality of it.
 

Quick Question: Do you watch current hip hop and R&B videos?
 

Oh please! You totally missed the point. I'm too tired to post now... I'll be back tomorrow or Wednesday to clarify.....
 

Yes. I mostly watch R&B. I'm a fan of VH1 Soul. I watch some Hip Hop videos, the ones that I can actually bear watching.... if I catch a glimpse of a video and it's anything like what I've described above... I'll change the channel. I prefer watching videos online though... I have more control over what I see that way (finding the video that I want to see VS. watching what someone else has placed on the programming schedule) ... but yeah in a nutshell I do watch current R&B and Hip Hop videos.
 

That's good to know. We're not really getting anywhere by going back and forth like this so I'm giving you a homework assignment ;-) Watch videos for a day...whether it be online or VH1 Soul or BET Jazz or MTV Jams or whatever and make a list of all the videos you see. I PROMISE you that the ones YOU find offensive will be a totally lower number than the ones you don't. Keep in mind that my post NEVER was specific to any genre of music...it's moreso about grouping and stereotyping models in music videos. Let me know what you come up with.

Thank you,
A Concerned Open-Minded Citizen
 

Will do! I'm going to focus on Hip-Hop/Rap videos though b/c to be honest.... when I hear the term "video ho" used, it's ALWAYS used to describe a chick in a rap/hip-hop video. You may not have mentioned a genre yourself, but that's the way it is. So, I'll take on the assignment. No prob! :-)
 

Is that fair? My post was talking about models in music videos as a whole. For you to put those conditions on it seems like you're targeting or ATTACKING Hiip-Hop/Rap videos specifically. That's not right.

Maybe you're just doing that because Hip-Hop/Rap videos only represent a small percentage of the videos that are aired and you just wanna speak out against SOMETHING. I don't know...lol.
 

I stopped doing music videos for this reason. To often people that knew me from high school/COLLEGE would start rumors that I was having sex with the artists to be in their videos...no, it's called an agent you dumb $%^&*@! I'ts was a horrible misconception and I just got tired of it. So I pulled the plug. Ive never been interested in licking the rappers (I'm listening to Lollipop, couldn't help that one) The only director that I will work with is in ya face! Well that's my 2 pennies.....I'll HOLLA!
KJ
 

Ignorance is a horrible thing..lol.
 

Big ups to you Damon! You're opinion is on point. I wish other people had your same perspective: )

XoXo

Ms. Monroe
 

Thanks homie!!
 

Hello,
I'm glad you made this blog because, I have people saying to me " you must not gave or give good head and your p*ssy must not be good either". Because, all we seen was the back of you in the video "G5" and we haven't seen you since.
1st ~ None of these people that say these things know what I might or might not have done or might do.
2nd ~ I have a 10 year old son that these kinds of statements would hurt him more then they hurt me.
3rd ~ I am a Aspiring Video Fashion Stylist. And, I am wanting to change and make a difference in the video world. That's why I wore the outfits that I wore at the video shoot "G5". They were sexy outfits but, at the same time they were classy outfits too. They didn't show to much but, at the same time they showed enough. We (women) don't have to show all of our assets just to be sexy. But, if a woman feels she wants to then she should have the right to with out being judge! I LOVED working on the video! I hope I am blessed to do many many more! It doesn't matter to me if I'm a Video Model or working as a Fashion Stylist. Just as long as I'm blessed to do one or the other.
4th ~ Last but not least... I do feel that if I were to wear outfits that show more of my assets and trade sexual favors for work I would most def not be looking for work... Work would be looking for me. LOL :) But, that's just how it is... So, I have to work 10 times harder doing things my way but, it is most def worth it!!
P.s. Sorry if there are words left out or words not spelled right I didn't go back check :(
 

Hello Damon, Let's start with this is not something that we can stop one from saying; however that doesn't make it right, my hat goes off to the women that model in videos or whatever as long as it's on the up and up, because inorder to do this job you must be strong, confident, able to endure a high level of critisim, and have a hell of alot of control when it comes to fitness, so for the one that did choose this occupation let them do there thing, they
work hard to, is a career choice, as one would choose to be a (DOCTOR), lawyer, teacher, hell a trash man it is what it is a job.


NEVER A DULL MOMENT WITH YOU DAMON
 

wow bruh you stay with the interesting topics. look hoes a video girl a hoe cause she helps sell the video. thats i really see the difference between niggers and black people shit tyra banks been in videos she aint a hoe .look shit if it wasnt for some of the hot chick or ptf doing a video half the fucking world would be UNEMPLOYEED. chicks that call video girls hoes are insecure and jelous i said it . hit the gym and you can do it to maybe not that big some of yal faces are horrible .lol. but we enjoy the video models .thx for the bangers ladies and ptf
 

Yo can I repost this in FAME under your name in a column? Man Powerful Ish???
 

Most Def!!
 

I am not sure about this one. The question was "Are you an independent woman?" (Or at least that is what was in the bulletin I received) Not how do you gain and maintain your independence. So now, right an article about all the independent (single) women out there (that are mostly forced into independence based on the state of men and the "lose" society that we live in) and ask the question again.

Now on another note...I realize that black people down each other but to me it is more about class. Just because a person has a job that supports them and brings in a good income does not mean they have class. And if a person decides to get in a video with little to no clothes on and gyrate around then cool. That's what they want to do. But that person should not whine and moan when people label them negatively. And neither should you. You know what they say, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then people are going to perceive it to be a duck.

So the question then becomes this - how would you like for people to perceive you?

I personally would not want that type of perception so I would not choose to be half dressed in a music video or any other kind of video. And I am the plus size girl that likes a Wendy's burger every once in a while and does not get to the gym. So I don't fit the "video vixen profile" (pun intended of course). And I do not watch music videos and sit on my ass. I have a fulltime job, run a business of my own on the side, and have another part time job, plus I am a mother. I digress.

I do have to be honest and say that I am disappointed though. You have a platform that reaches so many people and that is what you choose to right about??? Well of the course the choice is yours. But can we touch on some other subjects that are affecting people. This one is old.
 

I guess your comment is aimed at both of my previous posts...

You say,

"So now, right an article about all the independent (single) women out there (that are mostly forced into independence based on the state of men and the "lose" society that we live in) and ask the question again."

I touched on that when I said,

"...they ONLY claim that title by default. Let's face it, men sometimes drop the ball in relationships, thus FORCING the female to be independent and provide for themselves and their children. They have no choice. Trust me, if you had a good man who held up his end of the bargain, you would not be beating your chest bragging about your independent status. Basically, you made a poor decision in choosing a man and put yourself in that predicament."

I have no problem whatsoever with women standing up and being "independent". That's a good thing. Just don't expect a freakin' cookie for it.

In regards to this post, like I said to another commenter, dancing in sexy outfits does not constitute being a "hoe". And these women don't deserve that title strictly based on dancing in a video, therefore the whole "walk like a duck, talk like a duck" theory doesn't pertain to them. I've seen our sistahs from Africa, Jamaica, and other lands dance in a sexy manner with very little clothes on but they're not considered "hoes". What's the difference? If you can justly place that label on someone then I guess white women who raped and abused our female ancestors are justified in THEIR ways because the women danced a certain way...

And homie I respect all that you do and it's cool that you have a lot going for yourself (I still wanna work with you on this documentary by the way *smile*) but why should you or even society call these women "hoes" when most of them ALSO have full-time and part-time jobs, run businesses, and are mothers too??

It's unfortunate that you're disappointed by me choosing to write about this topic. I do write about what I choose to and I feel like this topic is important because calling a woman a "HOE" under unjustifiable circumstances is a BAD thing no matter how you look at it. Maybe it's cool to you (to pass judgement because of stereotypes), but it isn't to me. And although it may be old, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed.
 

Thanks for bringing up this topic for discussion. I believe the wrongful label of the "video hoes" maybe a backlash from people just tired of seeing black women portrayed this way....the majority of the time on television. Growing up with video soul, BET was where I saw the majority of black images. Before Teddy Riley's popped off the rump shaker -- there was KRS-1, Heavy D and even Big Daddy Kane videos with women I wanted to dress and look like. The women in those videos were objects of the artist's affection. Here comes Teddy, where women are ornaments and that era has for more than 15 years now. Young girls want to dress sexy and young boys want a gang of sexy women.

Calling these women hoes is wrong but it should put media makers on notice. TV is a very powerful medium and for black people videos is our outlet to see "us" on TV. As a filmmaker, I respect artistic and creative expression but the question of responsibility does comes into play. The black illegitimacy rate went from 20% in 1960's to 70% today. Somebody is learning to be hoes....where are they getting it from. What has changed since the 60's. That's just my 2 cents.

I found your blog because you made a very eloquent comment on my cousin Telese's blog
 

Thanks for checking out the blog queenofclubs!!

Just some Food For Thought...

Women in videos are STILL objects of men affection (just like back in the day). A common theme that has and will always be consistent is the 'cat-and-mouse' chase game. This goes on in movies, television shows, and of course - Real Life. All we're used to seeing is the CHASE. Once 'man gets woman' (or vice versa), the story is over. I'd say that videos of today took that whole dynamic a step further where guys happen to just get MORE than that one woman. The stereotypical hip hop video shows the male rapper reaping the benefits of his success. Something wrong with that? Playboy magazine has catered to that SAME idea for decades (using NUDE photos I might add that are right there on all the newsstands) - successful men enjoying and celebrating the physique of a dope female. Yes, it may be blunt at times, but hey, to each his/her own.

NOTE: Check my blog at my2cents-sense.blogspot.com entitled "Good Ol' Days" for more perspective.

To say that, "Young girls want to dress sexy and young boys want a gang of sexy women," has little to do with hip hop videos, but is moreso a reflection of society. That ideology has been going on for CENTURIES. That didn't start with the advent of HipHop or today's music videos.

Fact is, Hip Hop videos HAVE given young black or ethnic models an outlet. They may not fit into the cookie-cutter runway model physique and may not have the right dimensions for print, BUT these videos provide an outlet for them to pursue dreams and goals that they have for themselves. Not to mention, some of the girls in the videos look like the 'girl next door' type which gives younger females a sense of, "Hey, I'm Beautiful Too!" I think that's very important.

And I'm sorry queen, but you TOTALLY lost me if you're trying to point the finger at hip hop videos for making the rise in black illegitimacy rate go up. Ummm, what about CRACK? Preceding that, heroin sunk into our inner-city communities and wreaked havoc amongst us - ripping our families to shreds, separating us, and over-all destroying a lot of the positive attitudes and progress that a lot of us had coming out of the Civil Rights Movement. Crack was the knock out blow (no pun intended). Think about it, crack crept into our communities in the early-to-mid 80's and there's no question that this plague birthed MANY crack babies and illegitamate children. Of course, those kids have kids and it's a vicious cycle. I'm not gonna even touch upon poverty, lack a quality education and equal employment, and the role that those play on our illegitimacy rate.

As a filmmaker, responsibility does come into play, but at the same time, artists aren't neccessarily politicians and law makers with a means to get things done. Holding up a mirror to society with the message of "If You Don't Like What You See, Then Change It" can be just as effective. Nothing's wrong with artists taking a stance on certaing things (and I'm all for that), however, that's not for everyone.

I know I went off on a tangent, but I hope you get the point that video models are not evil and neither are directors...*smile*

Oh yeah...Don't be a stranger.