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September 12, 2009 - Saturday 3:24

Category: Religion and Philosophy
Why Not Yahweh?

Many people are getting the revelation of the importance of knowing the FATHER's name, yes, salvation is very importance. But many haven't completely studied thoroughly to come to the full revelation of HIS name, so this should help tremendously.

'Spiritual Israel' of today is walking about as the Israel of old, wandering about & making for itself gods that are the creation of their minds or of others. Our CREATOR has but ONE name & it's found where all TRUTH is; in HIS WORD. Period! If you can't find it there, then it's wrong, I don't care what King James or your Babylonian preacher said!

HIS name isn't found through man's wisdom: encyclopedias, 'Yahweh' studies, what Samaritans called HIM or through Greek scholars, etc. For those who have eyes to see, count the letters in 'Yahweh' - 6 - the number of man. While in YaHuWaH, there are 7 - HIS perfect number!

Four ancient Hebrew consonants can't yield a 2-syllable word 'Yahweh,' nor can 4 Hebrew vowel sounds (per Josephus). However, the real test as to the validity of  'Yahweh' (yah-way) is by the WORD; the ONLY true test!
 
The FATHER's name in Hebrew is spelled Yod-Hey-Waw-Hey (YHWH). Yod-Hey (YH) is a root & Waw-Hey (WH) is also. When you add 2 roots, you end up with 3 syllables, this is basic Hebrew grammar. With the vowel points, YH becomes Yah & WH become Wah, when you add them together you get YaHuWaH (Yah- Hoo-Wah). Another issue with the name 'Yahweh' is the Hey (H) can't have one sound as 'aH' (ah) in the first root then 'eH' (ay) in the 2nd root.

There are 2 major errors that 'Yahweh' people make. The 1st is over the pronunciation of 'Yah' that they cling to. The 2nd is how they view the phrase 'I AM HE.' First, let's deal with the pronunciation 'Yahh.'
 
The Hebrew language almost always follows a consonant sound with a vowel sound & that leaves the final syllable to be determined. Therefore, the vowel pointed abbreviation 'Yahh' that's found in Scripture, leads us to the pronunciation of YaH-Huw (Yahoo) & shows that the first 2 syllables of HIS name could be pronounced in that manner, not as 'Yah' as so many believe. This error of pronunciation has caused many to label the MESSIAH with a name that is NOT HIS! They wrongly believe that the 'short form' of the Creator's name is 'Yah,' then compound the error by adding to it 'shua' - saving/deliverance - thus coming up with 'Yahshua or worse still Y'shua.' However, if they were true to the Hebrew & the pronunciation of 'Yahh,' they'd arrive at the true name of MESSIAH, YAHUSHUA (Yahoo-shua). Many of the Israeli community regularly pronounce names that end in the letter sequence 'yh,' such as its Prime Minister; NetanYahu; spelled in Hebrew as 'NTN YH,' having the same ending sound that should be applied to Scriptural names that end in the same manner, such as YirmeYahuw (Jeremiah), YashaYahuw (Isaiah) & so many others.
 
Actually, there are 99 others of Israel who have 'YaHuW' in their names: 72 names that end with 'YaHuW,' 27 names having 'YaHuW' at the beginning & 1 with it in the middle, for a total of 100! (YaHuw - YHW - is the Hebrew spelling)

'I AM HE' which is 'Ani Huw' translates into 'YaHuW' & is a major identifying part of HIS name, which is for some reason, not seen or acknowledged by many as being important! Notice the text below, just one of many in which the identifying phrase 'I AM HE' is used. (The actual Hebrew reads just 'I He' - 'Ani Huw' - the 'am' is placed between these words for clarification.)

'I AM HE Who is Self Existent; continually everyday I lament the destruction of MY name that they have set to blaspheme. Therefore in that Day,' speaks HE, 'certainly MY name they shall know; it is HE Who Exists (YaHuWaH); with tears they shall report, BEHOLD!' - Isaiah 52:5-6 (Hebrew)

Since 'I AM HE' = 'Ani Huw' = 'YaHuW,' then the text above from the Hebrew could be read as follows: 'YaHuW Who is Self Existent....'

Exodus 20:7 says: You shall not bring the name of YaHuWaH your EL to naught, for YaHuWaH WILL NOT HOLD HIM GUILTLESS WHO BRINGS HIS NAME TO NAUGHT. (ruin, nothing, despised, worthless - by wrong use or even by non-use)

Use the texts below to test the validity of the names by which you call on the MOST HIGH & MESSIAH & write out the names you call on & see if they meet these requirements! There's no way that YaHuWaH's name can be separated from the name of HIS SON, for YaHuWaH's name must be within the name of YaHushuWaH. The enunciation of one name will verify the other name!

I've come in MY FATHER's name & you don't receive ME. If another comes in his own (made-up) name, you shall receive him. - John 5:43

A positive example is this: The FATHER: YaHuWaH (Yahoo-wah) / The Son: YaHushuWaH (Yahoo-shu-wah)  (YaHushuWaH - I AM HE who SAVES).

One name combination that doesn't follow these texts is: Yahweh, Yahveh, God, Lord, Lord God or Jehovah for the Father & Y'shua, Yahshua, Yeshua, Jesus, or Yehoshua for the Son. Why not call THEM Bob & Larry, same difference. The name 'Yahweh' isn't within YaHushuWaH & Yeshua is even further from the truth; Yeshua means 'may HIS name be blotted out.' Therefore, all these other names are wrong & inappropriate, regardless if you prefer to use them or not! Calling THEM by another name, what a great way to take THEIR name as nothing, unimportant... in vain!
 
2nd challenge: Can you find one name given in the OT that's a derivative of 'Yahweh?' Nope, wanna know why? This is what 'Yahweh' means?

The chief god of the ancient Romans is known to us today as Jupiter, King of the Gods, but Jupiter has a more ancient name. In English, it's Jove & in classic Latin, it's spells IOVE & pronounced Yahweh. Looking at a pronunciation chart of classic Latin in the Vox Latina, we find the 'I' is pronounced as a double 'EE,' the 'O' is as 'AH' the 'V' is as a 'W' & the 'E' is pronounced as 'EH.' If we put it all together, we get EE-AH-WEH which is pronounced Yahweh, spelled IOVE in classic Latin which is the King of all Roman Gods! The ancient Romans worshipped & praised the name of Yahweh as mentioned in Acts 14 & 19! This is the same god that the 'whore of Babylon' still worships today, check out their Cathechism!
 
Deception is as close to being true without being the truth, be not deceived! Remember... A little leaven leavens the whole lump. More on this in another blog. But, anyway......

HIS people are being destroyed for the things they don't know. - Hosea 4:6

There's coming more testing, oppression, tribulation & of trials; you'll need to call on the name of the ALMIGHTY for deliverance & if you have the wrong name, there'll be no deliverance for you. Now is the time to be sure you know HIS name & trust in it. You can't assume you have HIS SPIRIT because you see a feather or golddust, get goose-bumps or hear someone blabble. To be honest with you, if you haven't called on the name of YaHuWaH & believed in HIS SON YAHUSHUA, then that spirit you have is NOT the HOLY SPIRIT according to Paul in 2Corinthians 11:3-4.

YaHuWaH will also be a high tower for the oppressed; a high tower in times of trouble. Those who know YOUR name will put their trust in YOU, for YOU, YaHuWaH, have not forsaken those who seek YOU. - Psalms 9:9-10

It'll happen that whosoever shall call on the name of YaHuWaH shall be delivered. - Joel 2:32

There are many more who turn their backs on the the WORD, where HIS name can be proven. There's many different 'groups' of Yahweh, all of which rely on 'sources' for HIS name that aren't Scriptural & assume, 'there are so many of us that call on this name, how can it be wrong?' Well, so did all Israel when they called on 'Baal' in the days of Ahab when Jezebel & her false prophets led them astray!

Yahushua said, 'FEW (not a few billion) will find the TRUTH that leads to LIFE.' - Matthew 7:13-14

Descernment 101: If a majority of people are doing something, it's not the thing to be doing in the eyes of the MOST HIGH! Merry Christ-mass...hint, hint.

We all should heed the word that was given: Stop trusting in man, whose breath is in his nostrils; for of what account is he? - Isaiah 2:22

Thus says YaHuWaH: Cursed is the man who trusts in man & makes flesh his arm & whose heart turns away from YaHuWaH! - Jeremiah 17:5 (This is especially true for those seeking to know HIS great name!)

As for those who say, 'It really doesn't matter if we say 'Yahweh,' 'God,' or 'YaHuWaH' or any other name, for HE 'knows' what we mean. HE knows my heart & HE'll accept what we say until HE makes HIS name known to us.'
 
HE already has! It's in HIS WORD around 7,000 times for those willing to 'study to show themselves approved' & it's been shown to you in this blog as well. HIS name is actually the 1st Commandment as well & HE placed HIS name 7 other times throughout the 10 Commandments!! And you're right, it doesn't matter to the unrighteous what HE's call HIM & HE does know your heart... HE said that perversity, fraud & all evil come from it!
 
But, I feel wierd saying those names after calling on the other names for so long.... Really? That's an excuse you came up with? So, you'd feel better in a burning damnation?
 
My family & friends may treat me different.... Great! I would think the ungodly would treat the righteous differently. Besides, I don't know of any relative worth frying in the lake of fire with. Scripture says: Do you think I came to bring peace on Earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, 3 against 2 & 2 against 3. They'll be divided, father against son & son against father, mother against daughter & daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law & daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.- YAHUSHUA (Luke 12:51-53)

If your whole family, extended family & all, is on the same page as to who their Lord & Savior is, then not one has been born again in that family!

But, if you continue to use these excuses then why not stay with your God, Lord, Jesus, Jehovah, Yeshua, Yahshua, Lord God, or Yahweh (Jupiter) etc. - for YaHuWaH 'knows' what you mean, your evil heart speaks out of your mouth.

HIS chosen are told to honor HIS name, not take it for granted or count it as nothing. But once again, 'many are called, but FEW are chosen.'

So, here's a Word from the FATHER to you who will disregard this blog.....

If you won't hear & if you won't take it to heart, to give glory to MY name, I'll send a curse upon you & I'll curse your blessings. Yes, I've cursed them already, because you don't take it (MY name) to heart. Behold, I'll rebuke your descendants as well. - Malachi 2:1-2

Better yet, just quit calling yourself a Bible-Believer, because if you prefer to call HIM by a name other than that of YaHuWaH & think it doesn't matter or have any other excuse & still say no one knows for sure, it'd be more honorable for you to just go back & be a heathen instead of being a hypocrite & leading others astray!

Eternal life depends on knowing the correct name! Yes, it's all about the names - the correct ones; without the correct names as a foundation, the rest of your faith & believes are irrelevant. We can't change the names of the characters of the story & expect the same results....

There's salvation in no other name under Heaven given to us by which we must be saved. - Acts 4:12 (YAHUSHUA = YaHuWaH's Salvation)

What will a man give in exchange for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of ME & MY words in this adulterous & sinful generation, of him the SON of MAN also will be ashamed when HE comes in the glory of HIS FATHER with the holy angels. - Mark 8:37-38

It's all very simple & lines up with Scripture. You've been given the TRUTH, so who will you serve?

....as for me & my household, we will serve YaHuWaH! - Joshua 24:15

Much love to those seeking Truth without excuse & without compromise!

Jason Desmond
Ambassador of HIS Kingdom
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Gone like yesterday

 
I wish more could read this.. when I use the true names I have had so many people say 'what is that..?" "what religious sect are you a member of..?" when I try to explain I point them to your blogs and others.. Keep the faith brother...
 
Posted by Gone like yesterday on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 4:39
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I totally understand, but I have found the ROCK, so I can't be moved at all! You continue to stand as well! Good to hear from you.... blessings!

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 4:41
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Nubiansista

 
Praise the Lord Apostle.. Continue to show yourself approval (2Tim. 2:15) I'm Loving it, dont focus on those that are set in their ways and not willing to know the Truth. For yrs. many have cried out to know the truth and The father is revealing it through ppl that is willing to study. Must i Encourage you to, keep your head and be lead by the Holy Spirit...(How can one say something is not true when they havn't studied to show themselves approval.) Be Blessed! 
 
Posted by Nubiansista on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 19:15
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Janice (Cagle)Robb
Janice Cagle robbins

 
THATS ALL MESSED UP DUDE!
 
Posted by Janice (Cagle)Robb on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 4:39
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I know, it's something how people will have such a lacsidacical attitude toward the Most High, thinking it's ok to change HIS name & act a fool & still think HE loves them....lol Hopefully, this blog will either turn them from their erred way immediately, provoke them to study instead of just reading & memorizing Scripture or get them to just turn from their hypocrisy & live the heathen lives openly that they have been living secretly because the Word cuts to the core! The Most High ain't playing games with these people! Thanx for checking it out! Blessings!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 4:46
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Thanx for checking it out.... blessings!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:33
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jeff

 
No disrespect ment here but
Isaiah 42:8 says I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
 
In Isaiah 9:6 it reads - and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
 
If we are to believe that our salvation and relationship with the Lord is based on wether we call Him Jesus or Yahweh or YaHuWah then we have some serious issues! God look's at our heart (spirit). This way of thinking that we have to call God by a certain name only causes strife and confusion. We are not under the law but under His Grace and the less time we spend thinking of the laws and what to call Him the more time we can have walking in love and fulfilling them.

 
Posted by jeff on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:31
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
No disrespect taken, I was in darkness myself before. But, as long as this TRUTH provokes you to study to show yourself approved & turns you from your err, it'll be all good.

Actually, Isaiah says in 42:8 (Hebrew) 'I am YaHuWaH, that is MY name & MY esteem I do not give to another, nor MY praise to idols.' 

In Isaiah 9:6, it does say HIS name is called Wonder, Consellor, Strong EL, Father of Continuity, Prince of Peace. 

The meaning of name here in Hebrew refers to AUTHORITY, FAME, RENOWN, MEMORIAL OF INDIVIDUALITY, +++POSITION+++. These were HIS POSITIONS, what HE was to known as, HIS TITLES!

The WORD says there is ONLY ONE to call on for salvation! How many times is it written, 'Whoever calls on the NAME (not names or titles) of YaHuWaH shall be saved.'

Calling HIM by HIS rightlful is NOT causing confusion, what is caausing all the confusion is listening to preachers & false teachers calling THEM by all these made up secular names! Whoever takes HIS name in vain will not be held guiltless, no one can be spotless without blemish & guiltless at the same time.

When you say we're not under Law, we are under grace, you have NO idea what you are talking about either. Because you can't walk without fulfilling the Law & with no Law, there would be no grace.

Regardless, I would repent for walking in darkness & ask HIS set-apart SPIRIT to reside in you; when this happens you'll leave your Babylonian assembly & truly study & not take Queen James' word on it, but actually learn what the Scriptures are saying. 

Shalom!

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:58
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bigd

 
The new testament declares that "the law is not made for a righteous man" and if you have been justified by faith that is precisely what you are "a righteous man" The law of Sinai has no direct bearing upon the Christian though it is a part of Scripture given by inspiration and is profitable for insruction in righteousness(2 Tim.3:16)It is not however the believers rule of life any more then it is his means of life. In fact he does not come to Mt. Sinia at all(Heb. 12:18-24). In Christ the law is "done away"(2 Cor. 3:1-11)and the promise is that "sin shall not have dominion over you,"  for ye are not under the law, but under grace"(Rom.6:14) The law was a temporary covenant , Isreal's "schoolmaster unto Christ" that they "might be justified by faith"(Gal.3:19-25). The believer's means of life is Christ, his rule of life is Christ, and his life is Christ(2Cor.3:18;Col.3:1-4) "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage"(Gal.5:1).
 
Posted by bigd on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 4:51
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Without law, there is no grace! We are to walk as Yahushua walked & be holy as the Father is holy. Yahushua didn't come to rid the law & Paul tells us in Romans we are fulfill the law in our lives as well.... We are free from the commandments & doctrines of men, not the word of YaHuWaH! His law is good & just & holy & NOT BURDENSOME! Please lay off the TBN sir....
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 4:55
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Chaz

 
Jay you said: "Without law, there is no grace"

My reply: What is the chapter and verse to support that statement?

Grace proceeds from God's Love and Mercy.

Law only brings death and condemnation.

Furthermore, Eph 2:8-9, and Tit 2:13-14 are at variance with your theology. Thus, it soundly refutes your gospel of salvation through works of self righteousness.


 
Posted by Chaz on September 19, 2009 - Saturday - 20:39
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
You are repeating yourself & you have already been given the answer a couple time. I've already explained & now you've just answered you own question as well, obviously your doctrine is blinding you from the truth. You have yet to say why you have received grace out of being a sinner. 

I don't preach salvation through works of self-righteousness, we are saved by the grace given to us for believing in HIM & walking in HIS ways.

I'd suggest you lay off the Joel Osteen & then when you have that doctrine out of your system completely, ask HIM to explain what I've been saying & that you are unknowing agreeing with also.

I'm still waiting to hear from you why one would get grace or mercy from above outside of the reason one had committed sin. 
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 20, 2009 - Sunday - 3:08
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
It's called common sense. Why else would you need grace? We need grace for when we sin, (break the law of YHWH). Because no one deserves everlasting life because we were all sinners. But, HE has given us grace to those who have turn from the ways of the law-less one & have begun to walk in HIS path of rightoueness.
What else would grace be needed for?
It's doesn't make sense the way that christians speak of the Law & grace, because they claim the Law has been done away with for 2,000. Therefore, what would be the purpose for a Savior or grace if they the Law (Word) has been done away with. It's funny, I hear alot of ignorant people saying the the Messiah has rid us of the Law, even though one of the first things HE said was that HE didn't come to do that.
Most have NO idea what grace is, especially those who say, 'I'm not under the Law, I'm under grace.'
But, they don't know what they're saying.
We are under grace but we don't forsake the Law either, we are to walk as Yahushua walked & even Paul tells us to fulfill the Law in our lives. (Romans 3)
We can't walk in love without HIS law!
The law tells us what is wrong & not to do it & there is an immediate judgement if broken. Grace gives us the abuility, IF we break the Law, to repent & make things right with the FATHER.
Besides, it's not being self-rightoues by being obedient to the FATHER, it's just called being righteous according to the Word.
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 19, 2009 - Saturday - 20:51
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Chaz

 
Jay,

If it is that common; do us all a favour as the blog host, and kindly provide some Scripture to support that statement.

That is not too much to ask, unless of course it does not exist.

Please do not muddy the dialogue with things that I did not say, or things that I did not bring to this discussion.

I simply seek an answer to what you have confidently stated as common sense.
 
Posted by Chaz on September 19, 2009 - Saturday - 23:09
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
If you don't have grace from committing sin, why do you have it?

Through HIM, we have received GRACE.... WHY?
for OBEDIENCE to the faith for HIS name's sake! - Romans 1:5

Do we then make void (rid, ignore) the Law through faith? On the contrary, WE ESTABLISH the Law (in our lives, walking as Yahushua walked!) - Romans 3:31

Therefore, having been justified by faith. - Romans 5:1

What does it mean to be justified?

1. To prove or show to be just, or CONFORMABLE TO LAW, right, justice, propriety or duty; to defend or maintain; to vindicate as right. We CAN'T justify disobedience or ingratitude to our MAKER. We cannot justify insult or incivility to our fellow men. Intemperance, lewdness, profaneness and dueling are in no case to be justified.
2. In theology, to pardon & clear form guilt; to absolve or acquit from guilt and merited punishment & to accept as righteous on account of the merits of the Savior, or by the application of Messiah's atonement to the offender.
3. To cause another to appear comparatively righteous, or less guilty than one's self. Ezekiel 16.

I could go on & on, but there's no need, it can't be explained any easier than this.

HE's given grace to those who believe in HIS SON, repent from breaking the Law & begin walking in HIS ways, therefore we become justified. Plain & simple, if your teacher has taught you otherwise, you need to call him out on it. 

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 19, 2009 - Saturday - 23:29
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Chaz

 
Jay you did say the following didn't you?: "Without law, there is no grace"

I appreciate you advising me to call out my "assumed teacher", but actually, it is you that I am calling.
 
And once again you have failed to provide your viewers  and myself with a chapter and verse to support your above statement.

If you again fail to provide the passage for this, then I'll just assume that you are preaching vain philosophies, according to man's wisdom.



 
Posted by Chaz on September 20, 2009 - Sunday - 0:49
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I gave you examples, what are you not seeing?

If HE doesn't give grace for those who have committed sin, why do you THINK that HE give us grace then?
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 20, 2009 - Sunday - 0:54
Kimberly
Kimberly Desmond

 
I give praise to Yahuwah for using you as His ambassador and sharing the truth to those whom are His lost sheep and to the goats. My people know my voice! Those who are truly His will hear Him speaking through this blog and turn back to Him!
 
Posted by Kimberly on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:31
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Nubiansista

 
Thats right Sister, "My Sheep know my Voice and a stranger they will not follow". Those that truly has and ear will hear what Brother J. Desmond is saying. Yahushua stressed that Plenty of times... (He that has an ear let him hear what the spirit is saying to the Church).. Be Blessed, many prayers goes out to you all.
 
Posted by Nubiansista on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 19:14
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Exactly!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:58
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Patricia Tyson

 
This is so incredible!  I get it!!!
 
Posted by Patricia Tyson on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:32
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Had to break it down! :) Good hearing from ya!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:59
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. Christie (♥) David . Forever .
Christie Petrangelo

 
I...don't really see any difference in pronounciation...

Maybe because I'm always doing, "Yah-u-weh" when I say the name or sing in Hebrew.
 
Posted by . Christie (♥) David . Forever . on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:32
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
It's simply Yahoo-(w)ah. Thanx for checking it out!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 16:00
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. Christie (♥) David . Forever .
Christie Petrangelo

 
"Yahoo-(w)ah?" O_o (scratches head confused) Maybe my accent kills it...
Forgive me for sounding ignorant but, as long as we use three syllables, does the way we pronounce matter?
 
Posted by . Christie (♥) David . Forever . on September 13, 2009 - Sunday - 4:34
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
You may have an accent, that is fine, everyone does. I wouldn't be so concerned about that as long as your saying HIS proper name! :) Some say it Yah-oo-ah, I don't believe HE will knock us for the accents that HE gave to us.... blessings!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 13, 2009 - Sunday - 4:37
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ÇOSTAIRE
Travis Costa

 
change importance to important, first sentance.  Your kinda freakin me out with this name obsession thing tho haha.  Every time you say YaHuWaH I either look for a Star Wars episode with Yoda or want to tell someone cazuntite.
  You may now delete :)

 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 15:32
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I am hoping you are still seeking TRUTH, this should bring some enlightment to you.
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 16:01
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Travis Costa

 

Just one other thought, but if God, yes I will just say god because it is shorter and easier to use, If a god is omnisient, i.e. knows everything, wouldn't god know what everyone is talking about if they directed their attention to god, regardless of what they say or write?

Either god is so interested in Earthly grammar and pronunciation, or humans are.  I'm gonna go with, its a human consideration and fabrication.


 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 18:15
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Calling Him God or Yahweh is not a grammar issue, it's just calling Him something totally different than His name.
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 18:19
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Travis Costa

 

“Our CREATOR has but ONE name & it's found where all TRUTH is; in HIS WORD. Period!” – Jay Desmond

 

Which translation are you using so that we can all be on the same page?  Obviously I haven’t the translation you have. 

 

If you won't hear & if you won't take it to heart, to give glory to MY name, I'll send a curse upon you & I'll curse your blessings. Yes, I've cursed them already, because you don't take it (MY name) to heart. Behold, I'll rebuke your descendants as well. -Malachi 2:1-2 (Jay Desmond version)

And now, O priests, this commandment is for you:  If you do not listen, And if you do not lay it to heart, to give glory to my name, says the Lord of hosts, I will send a curse upon you and of your blessing I will make a curse.  Yes, I have already cursed it, because you do not lay it to heart. (NAB version) see also: (lev 26, 14-45)(deut 28, 15-68). 


Now IF Malachi said:

 

If you won't hear & if you won't take it to heart, to give glory to My name; that name being: Yahuawah, I'll send a curse upon you & I'll curse your blessings.  Yes, I've cursed them already, because you don't take it to heart, my name; that name being: Yahuawah, then Behold, I'll rebuke your descendants as well.

 

If Malachi had said that, and given that my version is adequate enough for you, then I might find your arguments interesting, maybe even plausible.  As it stands your arguments are whole cloth fabrications, not even based in scripture.  As bad as that might be, it gets worse because this particular passage has God talking directly to priests, not everyone else.  Not that it means anything to me, but usually priests are held to higher standards, by God, to follow his commandments more strictly.  But lets us just say for argument sake that a god only responds to certain syllables, grammar, and inflections.   Shouldn’t we all stop what we are doing to learn Hebrew?  But then isn’t that strange, being that the New Testament was written in Greek.  What’s the Greek equivalent of Yahuawah and why wasn’t it written correctly, by the profits who were on a first name basis with this alleged keeper of Truth.

 

Maybe this is not making sense, because maybe I have the wrong bible translation, but let’s take your other scripture Isaiah 52:5-6.

 

But now, what am I to do here?  Says the Lord.  My people have been taken away without redress; their rulers make a boast of it, says the Lord; all the day my name is constantly reviled.  Therefore on that day my people shall know my renown, that it is I who have foretold it.  Here I am! (Isaiah 52:5-6)

 

Now, same thing here; If Isaiah had said,

 

But now, what am I— Yahuawah—to do here?  Says the Lord.  My people have been taken away without redress; their rulers make a boast of it, says the Lord; all the day my name; which is Yahuawah and only Yahuawah, is constantly reviled.  Therefore on that day my people shall know my renown, that it is I— Yahuawah—by that name, who have foretold it. Here I am; in name: Yahuawah!

 

Here again, if the Bible, depending on which copy of which copies copy you are referring to said that, than your arguments would make more sense.  But then obviously you are the only one who can dictate “truth” because apparently you’re the only one holding the correct translation.  Which, in effect was what the papacy tried to do, and condemn any other translations from being made into other translations so that the people could read for themselves.  Prior to that the church and the Pharisees were against that because it took power away from the priests.  Essentially making their position irrelevant, or so they say, by allowing everyone access to your “truth”.  Beyond that, anyone who question doctrine or misinterpreted its meaning was collectively burned at the stake, fear reigned supreme and a system of chaos prevailed.  Maybe we should do as you say and relegate truth to a marginal and elite group of people who have access to the “correct” meaning of any given text.

 

Here again, if that is the insecure and narcissistic god you want to advertise to your followers, than by all means, I hope your business does well.  As for me, it simply does not ring true, and I can’t see how it could possibly ring true for a believer in the assigned designation of god that is made in the text of what you call THE WORD.

 

I will suggest to you, and contend that, what the biblical god is saying, in these passages, refers not literally to a phonetic address or grammatical requirement but rather the spirit and presence of god.  I would contend that Blasphemy is the opposition to that spirit or rebellion against its ideals and values, as spoken in what you so eloquently espouse as the word of god.  For example I think a god would be less concerned with the phonetic and grammatical version of his name, and more concerned with what that name actually stood for.  For another example, when people pick up a Christian or Jewish text, the insinuation is that they are following and accept the tenants in either book, and understand by concept that god, is that entity which they believe, wrote their books.  It does not seem plausible that a benevolent, omniscient god would see his people gravitate toward a place of worship with his book in their hands, and be skeptical of their intentions.  It would be even more strange to picture a scenario where all these people had gathered, said a name in reference to god, such as; God, Ancient of Days, Son of Man, I, Almighty, or whatever your confluence of imagination would reveal, and by doing so, regardless of their intentions and devotions and sincerity, and then have this god curse them because, they had all addressed him inaccurately.  It just seems really pathetic of a god, or even a holy tomb to suggest such a notion.  It seems more likely that god would be pissed off at someone preaching such a notion or trying to convince people that such a notion was relevant.      

 

Well thanks for letting me ramble on Des,

 

Çostaire


 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 18:15
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Well, you are reading from the one of the most diluted versions of Scripture, which isn't the inspired Word from above. This is where confusion sets in, because it's not 'meat' it's watered down milk.
Besides, I have broken this down as simply as possible, I get mail saying that young children even understand this. You have looked into so much other stuff that you don't know what to believe or you just haven't been given ears to hear. Either way, it's not up to me to convert people, only the Holy Spirit draw a man will he then come to the knowledge in order to receive salvation.
"The natural man doesn't recieve the things of the Spirit of YaHuWaH, for they are foolishness to Hi; nor can he know them because they are spiritually dead. - 1Corinthians 2:14

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 18:29
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Travis Costa

 
Nice deflection, so I'll ask again since you seem to have avoided everything I wrote,  What Translation are you using so that we can all be on the same page?  I hope that is second grade enough for you.
 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 4:51
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
"The Scriptures" Version 1998.... my bad
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 15, 2009 - Tuesday - 5:00
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Travis Costa

 

Institute for Scriptural Research, The Scriptures (1998 Version)(SISR), The Sword project?

        Interesting, so when did you get involved with this “sacred name movement?” 

From what I can tell, my arguments still stand on their own merit and accuracy.  I will give you the Hebraic name changes and the inclusion of the Hebrew text   יהוה to describe the Judeo-Christian deity, which is nice and traditional.  However the argument is the same, there seems to be no reasonable, scriptural or logical reason for your literalistic use of your deities name except as it may pertain to sentimental value and theological tradition.  Scripturally, I still don’t see where your case for the literalistic (necessity) for using the proper name for your deity exists.  If you are take the literal inferences there, why would you not go so far as to take the rest of the old covenant laws literal?  

ISR is also said to believe that the New Covenant (NT) was originally written in Hebrew, I don't suppose you believe that too? 

From the ISR website:  “The ISR will not respond to doctrinal questions.”

“Furthermore, the ISR board of directors members' identities are unknown, as are their scholastic credentials, and what their position is regarding the historical composition of the Bible. Notably lacking in The Scriptures translation or any of the ISR's research materials is any kind of position statement regarding the date of writing for any of the Biblical texts, their authorship, the location of the author, and/or the target audience of the text.” – Wikipedia (scriptures 98’ link)

 

 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 17, 2009 - Thursday - 4:29
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I got involved when I shown the error of my ways. When I decided to honor the Most High & walk in His ways as He commanded.

His name is in thousands of texts from over thousands of years, I don't see how you have missed it. 

NT in Hebrew, you got it! Paul was a Hebrew & so was Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy & Peter! They wouldn't have recognized Them with pagan names or secular titles anyway. Next, you're going say that the Aramaic is of importance?

So what, if this group doesn't want to argue or show attention to themselves, the Word speaks for itself. I only answer back to others so I can give them a chance to reveal who they really are & for others who walk in truth the ability to answer questions that people press toward them.

And another thing, Wikipedia is not known for total truth, how can you stand on Wikipedia & doubt the Word of the Most High?

All you do is try to make the Bible make sense to your logic or bring it down to your understanding, it doesn't work that way.


 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 17, 2009 - Thursday - 4:40
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Travis Costa

 

As a seeker of knowledge and science, truth is always at the forefront of my desires.  As far as some objective Truth is known however, at least the kind you espouse, I am convinced we do not have it, and glad with the fact that we don't.  Had I the pretense of Truth on par with what you are talking about, life would be essentially irrelevant in every aspect, or so it is my experience to conclude.

Truth, to me, is observing what is and understanding how much of it we can so that we can effectively and more efficiently navigate in a world that is indifferent to our plight.  Beyond that all we have are stories that entertain, indoctrinate, fascinate, bewilder, and provide consolation for the hopeless in their time of ignorance and grief.

The difference between my understanding of truth and your extraordinary notion of truth, is that scientific knowledge is available to anyone willing to put in the effort to learn it.  Whereas your truth must ignore the facts in order to obey ancient and mythological principles based on inferred and unavailable data.  Wherein I’m happy for you, and hope that it gives you and your Hollywood stars consolation.  Nevertheless I’m still as of yet, reluctant to accept such a truth on spurious and insufficient evidence.  I’m glad that it fills your days with a search to try and understand what to call a literary idea you call YaHuWaH! Or the other hundreds of euphemisms and pronouns used in your text of preference.  I can’t even imagine what kind of god would concern itself with such trivial and pretentious narcissism.  But if that is the god you want to advertise than I hope that it provides you and your members with purpose.

Guess we will all find out when we die.  Just the same we may find out that Zeus is in charge or the thousands of other gods in the pantheon of human imagination and literature.


 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 6:09
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Thor
Thor Aronsen

 
There are many pieces of the puzzle, of the picture of life, unfortunately we as individuals are granted but a few of them, making it so we should search or seek the rest of the pieces from others who see what we don't, without prejudice .... Romans 2; 11-15

Truth is self evident...

It's the thought that counts ....Philippians 2: 4-6

See ya in the kingdom my friend.....



 
Posted by Thor on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 18:00
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Thor, always good to hear from you Bro!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:21
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jeff

 
Titus 3:5-9 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

 
Posted by jeff on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:19
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
That's a good word except you're speaking the wrong Savior. If you don't proclaim the name Yahushua, you will only be fulfilling the Scripture that Paul spoke of; 2Corinthians 11:3-4. And I do try to avoid foolish questions but so many people who go to these christian churches or sects keep asking them. They are the ones always striving & fussing about the Law because they haven't died to their flesh yet, they just wanna listen to the false teachers who tickle their ears, but all this wouldn't be happening if they studied to show themselves & left their Babylonain aka christian churches.

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:27
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Claudia
Claudia Smith

 
HE Is faithful my friend. EL Roi, EL ELYON, ELOHIM, MALACHI. Anyway the english language is derived from syllables of all languages like a melting pot...he says my people perish for a lack of knowledge or knowing him. So, God is spirit, God is LOVE, AGAPE. He is in my heart and soul spirit man. woman is man with a womb. so i am sure Jehovah spoke very simple to Adam and Eve. He spoke to others but now he speaks through our watered down living word because satan complicates, confuses, chaos, to make men believe he is a harsh, judgemental, punishing God. But I believe he speaks LOVE UNCONDITIONAL TO EVERY PERSON IN THE WORLD, Just listen, .....  
 
Posted by Claudia on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:20
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
My suggestion... lay off the Joel Osteen FOREVER! My oh my, do you have such feelings from the flesh because your outlook on the Most High sure is un-Scriptural! HE does NOT love everyone especially unconditional! HE hates the workers of iniquity according to HIS WORD! HE even tells us not to love the world or the things in it! Don't you realize there are two worlds on this earth? Yahushua didn't die for everone, only those for whom the FATHER had given HIM, HIS elect! The covenant is with HIS family, not everyone on earth!
You are right, people are being destroyed for lack of knowledge; that's why HE has called me to spread HIS TRUTH & not this demon doctrine of christianity!
Don't you know also that the name Jehovah comes from a root word meaning 'destruction.'? And the word god comes from the name Gad meaning 'Babylonian diety of fortune.' No wonder why christianity is also known as the prosperity gospel?? One thing you said is right, god is spirit.... the spirit of mammon.... Wake up! 

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:39
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John
John Mott

 
our father understands who we are speaking too, no matter what language we speak to him in, if i was hebrew, i would praise him in hebrew, but i am not,, i speak english,, God is not limited by the language we use to praise him. in english,, his name is Jesus.

 
Posted by John on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:20
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Travis Costa

 

I think you're correct in assuming that "phonetic Blasphemy" is probably an inaccurate misinterpretation of scripture.


 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 14, 2009 - Monday - 18:15
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Jesus is not in English... it's in Greek! Besides, how comes people in other countries call on Jesus, why don't they translate the name to their language, because they know not to change a proper name!
The name Mitsubishi is Japanese, how do you say that in English?
How do you say Barack Obama in English?
Please tell me, being you fell you have the authority to go around calling people names other than what their name is, or do you just do that to the Most High & the Messiah?
Just like Yahushua said, 'I have come in MY Father's name & you don't receive Me. But if someone comes in -his own- name, him you will receive.'
Well, you have been told this for the longest time, obviously you haven't been called by Him, or you refuse to be one of His chosen, therefore, you have no excuse when you face the Almighty in person & you are considered GUILTY for taking HIS name in vain, as nothing.

 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 13, 2009 - Sunday - 23:03
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Proper names are not to be translated, especially those of the MOST HIGH & HIS SON. When you call on Jesus, you are blaspheming the FATHER's name & you will not be guiltless before HIM. By the way, Jesus isn't English, it's Greek. It's closer to call HIM Joshua, but that still away from the FATHER's name. The name Jesus comes from a root word meaning 'swine or horse' depending if you use the Hebrew or Greek, besides the name Jesus was not even in the original KJV, that name was only made up a few hundred years ago!
By the way.... How do you say Mitsubishi in English? How about Barack Obama? What you don't say those names in English???!!!
Watch the Spanish channel & see how many times they translate proper names.... none! I went to several countries overseas & you know what they called me in every one of them?? Jason in English! It was the same when I went to Italy, Spain, France, Egypt, Turkey, etc, etc. It's funny how those same countries are calling on the name Jesus, why don't they translate it if they don't speak English? Because they also know not to translate proper names, that would be improper!
All you are doing is fulfilling the word that paul said in 2Corinthians 11:3-4! Continue not doing the FATHER's way & you will have the same result as a Burger King burger.... flame-broiled by having it your way....
You did say something right, your father the devil does know who you are speaking to! As for me, I will serve the Most High without compromise! 
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 12, 2009 - Saturday - 22:51
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Travis Costa

 
"Proper names are not to be translated, especially those of the MOST HIGH & HIS SON"

Couldn't find that passage in scripture, maybe you could refer me to the text.
 
Posted by ÇOSTAIRE on September 17, 2009 - Thursday - 4:23
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Don't you know that names have meaning to them? Well they do? There is no Scripture to say we are to change names to our liking or to what we think they should be, Yahushua means "YaHuWaH's salvation, Jesus doesn't & the Most High's name is YaHuWaH, we aren't to add or take away from Scripture.
 It's so funny how people say it doesn't matter what you call Them..... if that were the case, why don't they call Them by their rightful names instead of making excuses to continually sin?
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 17, 2009 - Thursday - 4:28
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Army of One Standing on God's Word

 
If we are not to change any of the original names, then why have you added vowels to the name YHWH? There were not vowels in Hebrew language.  Furthermore, it is not even understood to this day, what the correct pronunciation of YHWH is or was.
 
Posted by Army of One Standing on God's Word on September 21, 2009 - Monday - 2:08
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