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September 26, 2009 - Saturday 2:05

Category: Religion and Philosophy
Continuing on the Pre-destination Doctrine from the Holy Scriptures...

3) The Result of Man's Sinful Condition

Because of man's sinfulness, he's unable to understand YHWH, seek HIM, or do anything good: There's none righteous, not even one; there's none who understands, there's none who seeks for YHWH; all have turned aside, together they've become useless; there's none who does good, there's not even one. - Romans 3:9-12

Because of his sinfulness, he loves darkness rather than light; he loves evil rather than good: This is the judgment, that the light is come into the world &  men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Because of his depravity, he's incapable of accepting the things of YHWH or understanding them: A natural man doesn't accept the things of the SPIRIT of YHWH; for they're foolishness to him & he can't understand them, because they're spiritually condemned. - 1Corinthians 2:14

The natural man is the unregenerate man, he can't understand the things of YHWH. Notice it doesn't say, 'has trouble understanding,' or 'can if he's sincere,' or 'will be able to if he chooses YHWH.' It says he can't understand. Salvation is one of those 'things of YHWH,' & so is the understanding of being lost, of being a sinner, of needing repentance, etc. All of these are out of reach of the natural man, he can't understand them.

How can an unbeliever come to an understanding that he needs salvation if the Word teaches that he can't understand this need, that his nature is evil & that he doesn't seek YHWH? What effect, then, does this condition have on his free will?

4) Man's Free-Will

Many believe that man, by his own will, by something that resides in him, is completely able to independently accept or reject YHWH. This is un-Scriptural. Being, man's will by nature is sinful, what will a sinful free-will choose? It'll choose sin, his own will would never allow him to reach for YHWH.

But we must ask, 'What's free-will?' Generally, it's accepted to mean the freedom to choose according to one's desires. This seems true. But someone is only as free as his nature is free. His will is limited to that which is within his nature. The unregenerate can only choose what his nature allows him to choose. Since he's full of sin, his choices can only be sinful.

In other words, a person can choose to do only that which his nature allows him to do. He can't simply will to suddenly vanish into thin air or fly like Superman because he's incapable of such feats; his nature limits him. So too with the nature of fallen man. He's limited by what he can & can't do.

The sinful man:
can't understand spiritual things (1Corinthians 2:14),
is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23),
doesn't seek for YHWH (Romans 3:11),
is lawless, rebellious, unholy & profane (1Timothy 1:9).

How then can the good desire to want YHWH come out of the unsaved evil heart? It can't! How's he able, in his sinful free-will, to desire YHWH when his inclinations are always to reject HIM? He can't! How can he, with his blind & sinful will that's deadened, hardened & enslaved by sin (Romans 6:20) ever choose YHWH? He can't! It's impossible. That's why YAHUSHUA said, 'With man this is impossible, but with YHWH, all things are possible.' (Matthew 19:26)

But some still maintain that YHWH works on a person & slowly teaches & guides him or her into believing. Others say that there's something in a person's free-will that enables him to choose YHWH. They maintain that everyone's equally able to accept or reject. But if they were, then why don't they all equally accept YHWH, or why don't they all equally choose to reject YHWH? Why are there variations in choice? Are the variations a result of a tendency that YHWH gave them? But HE made them that way. Is it because of their environment? But YHWH put them there. Is it because of some physical inclination? But YHWH gave them their bodies. Is it because of their parents' influence? YHWH also gave them their parents.

Man isn't entirely free; he's sinfully free. The unsaved can act freely, but only within the limits of their sinful nature which can't understand spiritual things, doesn't seek for YHWH,but hates HIM & is in slavery to sin (Romans 6:17, 20) etc. YAHUSHUA said, 'No one can come to ME, unless the FATHER who sent ME draws him'. - John 6:44

and...
No one can come to ME, unless it's been granted him from the FATHER. - John 6:65

These are not the statements one would hope to find if the sinner were so free to choose to accept or reject YHWH.

5) The Necessity of Predestination

So, man is completely a sinner who's incapable of understanding & coming to YHWH & has a sinful free-will capable only of rejecting HIM. Therefore, in order for salvation to occur, YHWH must predestine it. It can be no other way. If this is so, then there should be verses supporting it. Right? There are:

When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing & glorifying the Word of YHWH & as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. - Acts 13:38

As many as received HIM, to them HE gave the right to become children of YHWH, even to those who believe in HIS name, who weren't born of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of YaHuWaH. - John 1:12-13

There's you a couple; not convinced yet?
How bout........

For whom HE foreknew, HE also predestined to become conformed to the image of HIS SON, that HE might be the firstborn among many brethren & whom HE predestined, these HE also called & whom HE called, these HE also justified & whom HE justified, these HE also glorified. - Romans 8:29-30

Almost convinced?

HE predestined us to adoption as sons through YAHUSHUA haMashiach to HIMSELF, according to the kind intention of HIS will. - Ephesians 1:5

OK, if I show you one more, will you believe HIS Word?

We've obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to 
HIS purpose
who works all things after the counsel of HIS will.
- Ephesians 1:11

Noticed, they said nothing of our 'free-will,' it's about HIS will!
These Scriptures clearly show that YHWH's very active in salvation. HE didn't simply provide the means of salvation, but HE also ensured the application of the blood of MESSIAH through predestination.      

Notice that it's YHWH who:
- draws people to Himself (John 6:44,65)
- creates a clean heart (Psalm 51:10)
- appoints people to believe (Acts 13:48)
- works faith in the believer (John 6:28-29)
- chooses who is to be holy & blameless (Ephesians 1:4)
- chooses us for salvation (2Thessalonians 2:13-14)
- grants the act of believing (Phillipians 1:29)
- grants repentance (2Timothy 2:24-26)
- calls according to HIS purpose (2Timothy 1:9)
- causes us to be born again (1Peter 1:3)
- predestines us to salvation (Romans 8:29-30)
- predestines us to adoption (Ephesians 1:5)
- predestines us according to His purpose (Ephesians 1:11)
- makes us born again not by our will but by His will (John 1:12-13)

It is man who:
- is deceitful & desperately sick (Jeremiah 17:9)
- is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23)
- loves darkness rather than light (John 3:19)
- is unrighteous, doesn't understand, doesn't seek for YHWH (Romans 3:10-12)
- is helpless & unrighteous (Romans 5:6)
- is dead in his trespasses & sins (Ephesians 2:1)
- is by nature a child of wrath (Ephesians 2:3)
- can't understand spiritual things (1Corinthians 2:14)
- is a slave of sin (Romans 6:16-20)

How can it be any other way than YHWH's loving predestination to make our salvation not only possible, but also a reality? Left to man, salvation's impossible: When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished & asked, ‘Who then can be saved?' YAHUSHUA looked at them & said, ‘With man this is impossible, but with YHWH, all things are possible.' - Matthew 19:25-26 

Jason Desmond
Ambassador of HIS Kingdom
Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Same to you!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 6:25
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David

 
Ahh  but you must have missed the part that states..

Rev 21:6  And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

To me, a true child of God, Just Like YOU!!  Don't take offense.. This is the corruption in All religions..  where, if I claim to be TRUE? One automaticly ASSUMES I am referring that I think you are not...

This verse virtually means..

If you SEEK the fountain of eternal Life because you are "THIRSTY" for it, (are getting tired of the devils dirty, dry, painfully angry, confused and "dead" ways)..

IT WILL BE YOURS FOR FREE!

Amen

 
Posted by David on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 6:25
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I didn't miss that verse, it just isn't for those HE hadn't called. Those who are  not pre-destined by HIM to seek after righteousness CAN'T & AREN'T thirsty for it on their own, the main point of this blog.... thanx for checking it out!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 6:28
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David

 
Ambasader of His kingdom, but dictates who can say what?

Hmmmmm

I dont think Jesus would be going around his kingdom putting socks in the mouths of the ones whom are still lost for they are his family also.

Accept the Lost and Love them.. for to teach love is to Give Love.. Regardless of what they say or do..

If you or your readers cannot accept a lost soul of God spewing his vulgar and ignorance and try to turn on the light for them?

Then they are not really Christian, They are just like the lost..

Do you see the war?

Wow

Again, that is just "my" perception, that I believe is quite correct.

 
Posted by David on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 6:25
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
What do you mean dictate what other's say? Besides, I don't care what your 'Jesus' would do with socks, if there was a 'Jesus' back then or if there were socks.

I gratefully accept the true lost sheep of HIS. What are you referring to, I've witnessed to many & made disciples of some as well, what are you talking about? Unlike a typical christian just looking to indoctrinate a 'member.'

By the way, what does your comments have to do with this blog?

To teach love is to give love? Need to lay off the Joel Osteen. The Word tells me when I obey HIS Law & Commandments, this is how to truly love someone & the FATHER HIMSELF.

It's not up to us to 'turn the light on' to an un-Believer, going back to the blog, if the FATHER doesn't draw him, no amount of truth-sharing will matter. All we are to do is walk in HIS ways, share HIS Truth to others & witness MESSIAH YAHUSHUA! It's not up to us to convert them.

Like they say 'Perception is 90% reality.' But too bad, it's not necessarily the Truth. Thanks for your 'perception' & emotionalism!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 6:39
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. Christie (♥) David . Forever .
Christie Petrangelo

 
Jason...as much as I like reading blogs...this one has by far been the most offensive to me and out of context with the Word ever.
Because it's quarter past four in the morning, I'm going to pray and sleep on what I was going to say in full response, knowing that my Heavenly Father will have a better response to impress upon me.
Until then, I do not expect to see any response to my comment.

 
Posted by . Christie (♥) David . Forever . on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:57
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
So, obviously, you haven't had the understanding of HIS salvation plan, it does tend to offend the FLESH, it's HIS Word & HIS ways. And if you truly pray to YaHuWaH, I will be looking forward to any Word that HE may give you for ME.
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:01
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. Christie (♥) David . Forever .
Christie Petrangelo

 
I won't respond to your statement on my personal salvation experience, as it is between myself and my Creator on how I came under the powerful conviction of His Word.

His Word has never offended my flesh as much as your words have, to put it plainly; I indeed at one point honestly think highly of you as a brother in-Christ until I started to see how many of your doctrines have directly contradicted the Gutenberg Bible (the same Bible that I believe you attest to reading? Or was it another Bible?).

 
Posted by . Christie (♥) David . Forever . on September 28, 2009 - Monday - 18:16
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Regardless, HE's not going to do something against HIS Word. So, if your 'experience' was something contrary to the Word, then you can best believe that you've been deceived. If you call on the name other than YaHuWaH & a SAVIOR other than YAHUSHUA, then you have definetly been deceived. 

In regards to the Gutenberg Bible, never read it. I couldn't tell you what it states. 


 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 28, 2009 - Monday - 18:23
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David

 
My Apologies, deeply for you have posted what I said, I am just not sure you see what I meant, or that you see the God in me, IS the exact same God in you that you clearly are standing steadfast in and with.  Amen  You have a crisp clean view of his reality..  it is just different than mine, I repsect that and praise you anyways. God Bless you Jay!

 
Posted by David on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:56
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Not as problem! One thing, I would lay off the 'God' stuff. Did you know that 'God' is actually the Babylonian diety of fortune? Yep, man-made doctrine/tradition tried to snag us again! lol Blessings!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:03
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David

 
Your right, we haven't the power to actually convert them, we have the power to SHOW the conversion he CHOSE to be in US..  so OTHERS may see   HE!!  Is there, For REAL!! and Seek him, for REAL. Amen

 
Posted by David on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:56
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Kimberly
Kimberly Desmond

 
Jason I want to thankyou for showing Agape Love ( love that is spiritual in nature) to the world by being a child  of the most High  Yahuwah, not God.  Showing Yahuwahs love is sharing His commandments, His statues and ordinances to a lost and dying world. And by your obedience you create His love in others towards Him. But only for those who truly love Him!
 
Posted by Kimberly on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:55
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I am humbly grateful everyday...
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:04
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Leroy
Leroy Noffsinger

 
Thank you Jay. We need more ambassadors.

  Leroy
 
Posted by Leroy on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 7:55
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Thank you for swinging by... blessings!
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:04
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Kimberly
Kimberly Desmond

 
Abraham was called-out from among Pagans and Gentile practices,ie Christianity, and was ultimately to become a blessing to the Gentiles because of his “fidelity” (faithfulness, emunah).  We should all be thankful That YHWH has called you out so that you can be a blessing by teaching us the TRUTH!!!
 
Posted by Kimberly on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:55
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I'm thankful that HE's shared HIS wisdom for me to share with others....
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:05
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David

 
Yes I agree your are correct that you will not be saved unless he chooses to save you..  But I'm saying, to get him to choose you, you have to love, admire and seek him with passion. And once he does grab your heart, because someone in your life clearly showed you his works in his/her testimony and forced you to seek him.

You will be rewarded and so will the confessor of his his truth.

Amen
In Christ!

 
Posted by David on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 17:56
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
Thing is, unless HE chooses first, no man would be saved. It's not man's nature to be righteous, but to be a sinner. The ones HE draws to HIMSELF are only seeking because HIS calling, but as you know, being called isn't enough, because 'many are called, but few are chosen.'
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 18:07
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Cynthia

 
AMEN!!!
 
Posted by Cynthia on September 26, 2009 - Saturday - 22:09
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Gone like yesterday

 
Thanks brother.. the biggest thing that I have learned from you these past few years is that our Father has a name and we are commanded to keep it holy.. very few of my friends and family understand when I use the true names. For me this teaching only reinforces my beliefs that the Father calls us to Him, I have talked with many that do not care, do not believe and will never. It is not up to our strength or will, only His.. Shalom
 
Posted by Gone like yesterday on September 28, 2009 - Monday - 7:07
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Word of Truth

 
Hi Jason,

If you're trying to say everyone is saved, you're correct, but only in spirit are they saved. The sinners who haven't repented and received the spirit of God they were created in, will go to their eternal death in the flesh so the sins in their heart is destroyed.

Those who were predestined to have eternal life will receive the spirit they were created in and, even though they die in the flesh, their spirit goes on forever. All spirits in God will be saved for God's eternal purpose.

Since all our flesh is destroyed, their won't be any memories of this age taken to the next world. It's our memories that are evil and need to be destroyed.

The only reason for this age was for our created spirit to be sanctified in our flesh here on earth so it could go on in spirit as the Word of God and be the rulers of the next heaven and earth. After they get new bodies, the spirit will recognize itself so the new flesh will know they are brothers in Christ.


God bless you,
Brad

 
Posted by Word of Truth on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 16:02
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
I'm not saying all are saved at all, there are only going to be saved who are actually saved, because many have been deceived by this 'Jesus' & aren't obedient to the Word. Christians are only fulfilling 2Corinthians 11:2-3.....
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 16:09
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John 3:16 Μολών Λaβέ
j c musick

 
The new physics makes the Bible quite clear... God chooses the final quantum reality. This is not the same thing as predestinating someone to damnation. Rather foreknowledge.
 
Posted by John 3:16 Μολών Λaβέ on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 16:02
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Jay Desmond
Jay Desmond

 
It is the same, HE has made some as vessel of honor as some as vessels of wrath fitted for destruction. HE knows the end from the beginning because HE has ordained all things for HIS purpose. Thanx for stopping by...
 
Posted by Jay Desmond on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 16:07
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Patricia Tyson

 
Your teaching is right on point!
 
Posted by Patricia Tyson on October 11, 2009 - Sunday - 22:27
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charles

 
great post Jay.great comments.missed last few lessons.catching up today.the hair looks cool dude.

 
Posted by charles on October 11, 2009 - Sunday - 22:27
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