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City: Scottish Borders
State: Scotland
Country: UK
Signup Date: 10/30/2005

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Friday, May 15, 2009 
I hang my head in shame and confess (as I've confessed before):

I watch American Idol.

Every week.

Now I can't be bothered with Pop Idol and its lame British corporate equivalents. But there's something about The American Dream thing that's quite captivating from the outside. And a little more maverick and emotionally compelling than is possible here.

I watch "Idol" in the considered knowledge that it's pretty much the antithesis of everything my own wee corner of the music world represents, with its global sponsors and its skilful manipulation of musical tastes, and its beautiful people and staged controversies. It's not a folk festival open mic is it?

In distinguishing between most popular music and the trad end of folk, Bellowhead frontman Jon Boden talks of the difference between "me songs" and "we songs" (and check out his recent album "Songs From The Floodplain" for some of the most moving new "we" songs you'll hear all year). Of course, the pop and rock mainstream, and what most folks understand as the musical world of "singer-songwriters", has a lot to say about "me". And it's a not wholly unjustified tarnish. The "me" factor has never specially turned this "me" on. I've always preferred the storytellers, the creepers inside of other people's lives, to the emoters.

But sometimes that line is awful blurry.

Anyway it was down to the last three in American Idol. Three lads.

There's a clean cut, humble and undeniably likeable lad from Arkansas called Kris. Normally I'd know just by the look of him that he's not my cup of tea. You'd guess he was a wee bit wet. But he turns out to be a very fine musician and has balls enough to sing a Kanye West song in the last three face-off accompanied only by his own very able acoustic guitar. He's musically astute and totally level. I dare say I wouldn't buy his records but I have to give the guy credit for being his own man.

Then there's the flamboyant and dramatic Adam, a bit like a flashback to the fellow that used to front The Human League. Remember them? From a Scottish living room it seems remarkable to me (and cheering) that a pretty, stylised and obviously gay young man has been getting so much support from middle America. Til my Canadian husband points out that most of the screaming women, young and old, probably have no idea that he is. I hope this isn't true. Still he's very clever and musically crafty and chameolon-like. But a bit of a starlet. Technically proficient, an actor. Shouts and poses a bit much for my tastes. And is rather too much laying on the line the emotion I'm supposed to be feeling when he sings, rather than just feeling it in him and so making me feel it too. It's like musical semaphore.

And then there's Danny. Lovely Danny Gokey. Och I've had a wee crush on this one the whole while. Man he can sing. And when he does it right I believe every word of it. It's added to by a weighty back story, certainly, in that he lost his young wife last summer to a chronic heart condition. His prime motivation for singing, he says, is to raise money for a trust in her name and to rebuild his own life. But without this knowledge I think I would still have sensed something emotionally honest and more than just a little raw in his own performances. With the right song, truly he sings his own heart out.

Of course, the human story is so much part of it all now. Not just the song, for its own sake, as the folkies would prefer it, but the singer and his tale too.  I've done enough interviews at my own modest level to know this is true and to sort of wish it wasn't. But then where would that leave me with blogging? Who would care? Indeed, who does?

I confess to my Idol indulgence because in the multi-billion dollar world of corporate music making and taste shaping I'm chuffed that it's still possible for people like me to respond to real human emotion in song. And when we do what might otherwise be considered "me" music becomes "we" music. 

Dick Gaughan said to me once: You have to decide if you're the kind of singer and writer who wants people just to listen to you OR if you have something to say that demands folks listen to it. I know where I stand on this. I think lovely Danny does too.

Still they kicked him out this week. Idiots!

But whilst handsome Adam might have the "wow" factor and cute Kris the teenage "whoa" factor, it's the smiley, beardy, good guy old Danny that has the "we" factor.


Currently listening:
Songs From The Floodplain
By Jon Boden
Release date: 2009-03-02
Plan-Bmanagement

 
I agree, especially about the crush! I imagine the American machine will propel Mr Gokey to where he deserves to be.
Keep watching, its brain off TV but the one to keep an eye on is Paula Abdul (I think thats really why simon sits side ways) from a psychological point of view that woman is a million dollars!
N Plan-B
 
Posted by Plan-Bmanagement on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:25 PM
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Mike Wilson

 
I've never thought of songs like that before... me... we... but that is a great way of describing the difference between what moves me and what doesn't. I've been listening to a lot of Eric Bogle this week who is most certainly a 'we' writer... and he's reminding me of yourself... I like the way he finds the humanity in situations and puts that across in his songs. He sings about the big topics like war, but sings about it from the viewpoint of an individual or their family and fills the song with their personal artefacts, making their story so real and so hard-hitting... I'm thinking of the tattered photo of Willie McBride "fading to yellow in a brown leather frame"... it's these little details that provide a lasting mark on your conscience.

I'll be honest... I find little of the 'we' and lots of the 'me' in programmes like this... you must be much more accepting than I am... suppose I shouldn't tarnish them all with the same brush!

Thanks for the thoughts....
 
Posted by Mike Wilson on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:33 PM
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Clare

 
Ha! Idol is my secret vice, too! I had thought Adam would probably go this week...to be honest, much as I love him, he's become a little one-dimensional lately, inasmuch as I'm noticing him screeching a little too often and the drama is getting a bit much. I also think he has lost a little of the depth he brought to songs like Ring Of Fire (rather an unfortunate song choice in the week in which pictures of him snogging other men appeared all over the internet, I felt). Nevertheless, I think he's rather fab and the smart money is on him to win, I think. Kris never really did much for me.....which leaves young Danny Gokey. How fab was he last night???! He sounded more like Terence Trent Darby on Dance Little Sister than Terence Trent Darby. I am going to be sooooo sad when it's all over next week....we'll have to start watching Britain's Got Talent, Karine! x
 
Posted by Clare on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:36 PM
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The Record Journal *www.therecordjournal.co.uk*
Record Journal

 
'You'd guess he was a wee bit wet.' - Made me giggle...
 
Posted by The Record Journal *www.therecordjournal.co.uk* on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 10:37 PM
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DOUG LANG

 
I don't have a tv and have never seen American Idol, but I hear about it,
so it was fun to read your take on it. I will confess that when I travel and
stay in tv-equipped hotel rooms, I re-enter my fascination with (and general
disgust for) what passes as entertainment on the tube, and confess to even
"liking" it for how amusing and bizarre it typically is. I do get a headache
after about an hour; it's that strobe light behind the screen; it does weird
things to my brain and nervous system. My love to you and that Canadian
husband of yours. DL
 
Posted by DOUG LANG on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 1:34 AM
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Mark
Mark Tripp

 
Ok, you've sussed my guilty secret too!

I WATCH "AMERICAN IDOL"...

I have to agree with all you have said Karine, & that said by the correspondents below ("but the one to keep an eye on is Paula Abdul, from a psychological point of view that woman is a million dollars!" - LOL, and "Ring Of Fire - rather an unfortunate song choice in the week in which pictures of him snogging other men appeared all over the internet" - even more LOL!!)

Shame Danny went out!

And thank you for the Jon Boden recommendation - I'll check this LP out soon (LP?!?! - I'm showing my age!!!)
 
Posted by Mark on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 2:55 AM
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Bill Dodds
Bill Dodds

 
Eurovision tonight; my annual fix.

If we are talking about art here, I don't think we can get the whole thing unless we have the person, not the abstraction of a timeless, placeless song. If we haven't we construct, as you constructed the persona of the gay singer? And as perhaps a different audience did not so construct. Maybe from the merest scraps.

Me and we? I've thought in terms of confessional, yet seen storytelling as a third person version. Sets up a triangle (artist, story, audience) rather than a couple (artist, audience). Good and bad forms of both me and we I believe.









 
Posted by Bill Dodds on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 6:27 AM
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Christina Stewart

 
Now, why SHOULD it be a guilty secret, hmmmm?

I'd don't see American Idol, but will be up for Eurovision tonight - bring on the popcorn!

 
Posted by Christina Stewart on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 7:36 AM
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Bill Dodds
Bill Dodds

 
Remember Abba is my motto when it comes to Eurovision; and several bottles of amnesia.
 
Posted by Bill Dodds on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 7:40 AM
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Gordon

 
You'll rot your teeth watching that! Guilty pleasure of the week...River City. Oh Yeah!
 
Posted by Gordon on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 9:43 AM
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Rachel Fox

 
Can't some me songs be we songs? My first reaction would be 'yes' but I may have to think about it for a while!
Never watched Idol but may have to seek out some youtube of this lad now to see what you see/hear...

 
Posted by Rachel Fox on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 12:30 PM
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Phil
Philip Lord

 
You never cease to amaze me, Karine!
Firsty, that you watch American Idol and secondly, that you so elegantly cut the layers of dross away to see the humanity beneath. Well written.
I watch TV so rarely nowadays and haven't seen the programme, so can't comment, but, like Rachel, I think the distinction between me song and we songs isn't that clear, or not always. Some me songs become we sings for a group of people going through the same emotional mill. And in any case, you do write the occasional me song as we have discussed previously.
We should all watch out for the them songs.
 
Posted by Phil on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 1:32 PM
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Fran Smith

 
I'm sorry to say I thought there were about 5 singers in the competition who were better than Danny, who seemed to me to shout his way through most of his songs, but there ya go! Different strokes... :) (Adam to win!)

I don't see why songs have to be divided into 'me' or 'we', especially with the connotation there that a 'me' song is an inferior song. Some songs are written to be universal in their message or appeal, but fall way short of the mark or are too generalised. Others are written from a very personal 'I'/'me' point of view, about a very specific story, but strike a chord with a huge number of people. I don't think either form is better or has more worth than the other, as long as people want to listen to it. And I think that sometimes people DO want to hear singers sing about themselves, rather than trying to be everything to everybody, or condense the whole world and all its issues into 16 lines. My singing teacher Chris Coe always talked about the song being more important than the singer - but then conversely she also talked about art as being one of the most brave things you can do, because you completely expose your insides to a room full of strangers, in the way that an 'ordinary' job doesn't require you to. I like to see performers giving something of themselves, their emotions, their personality on stage. There has to be a reason I would want to see THAT person and listen to THEIR thoughts rather than somebody else. It's about human connection at the end of the day, isn't it? I came up against the attitude on the folk degree a lot that the singer of the songs doesn't matter, and that you shouldn't write songs about yourself... I completely disagree. Yes, there's something special about putting yourself in somebody else's shoes and seeing the world from a different perspective and telling someone else's story, but you could also argue that then you're just imposing your own values onto that person's experience and IMAGINING what it was like for them. In the right hands, this is brilliant - like "Firethief", for example. But it can also go wrong and be very forced and overly-simplistic. There's beauty in knowing that one else sees the world quite like you do that makes it worthwhile and intriguing and important for a singer to sing about themselves. I don't feel bad that I often sing songs about myself, because it's what I know, so there's truth and honesty in it, and I don't believe that's not a bad thing.
 
Posted by Fran Smith on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 3:38 PM
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Karine Polwart

 
I'm suitably admonished Fran for a late night, wine fueled and not wholly thought through blog. Ach I was just sorry for that Danny fellow you know! I think what I like in singers isn't whether they're singing me or we songs if that distinction can be made well at all (I do think it's over simplistic - as Bill pointed out privately, all we songs were once me songs) but if they're me or we kind of people and artists, folks that reel you in rather than set out to impress you. I guess that's what I'm getting at. What turns me off (unless I'm looking to dance - in which case it's great!) is self absorption and self importance. I like the one who seems like a regular guy and then turns out to have layers (like Chris Wood say). And with only a few exceptions I'm not a great fan of showiness. That's a cultural affliction as well as a personal one, of course. And it applies in all things indeed not just music. Self awareness, and self confidence, and drama, and gravitas, now that's another matter. But it's an awful fine line. That has a lot to do with why, for example, I'd sit and listen to Jon Boden's solo album in my house but never listen to Bellowhead. For me it's in the wanting to connect with rather than impress people. And it's the conveying emotion rather than just out and out musically emoting or what looks like acting. Maybe like you say it's just the difference between good and bad acting. I know sometimes at shows I have to pretend. But even in my muted fashion, I know and feel the difference and I think other folk do too. I sing songs about myself and other people. But they're all kind of about me, in that the totality of those songs says a whole lot about what matters to me and what doesn't. Needs more thought so might try another blog soon on this whole subject. Unless you fancy starting a thread Fran? See you at your page!
 
Posted by Karine Polwart on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 4:15 PM
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Fran Smith

 
Haha, sorry - just reading back what I put... did you happen to spot my little insecurities about my songwriting raising their whiney heads in the midst of all that waffle?! ;) arrgh. xx

I really know what you're getting at with the whole bit about being a 'me' or 'we' performer - a performer should feed and feed off the audience, it's a two-way relationship, and a 'we' performer includes and considers his/her audience all the time. (Let's face it, it's the POINT of being a performer, otherwise why not sit in the comfort of your living room and play for yourself!?) But then I still can't work out who I would class as a 'we' or a 'me' performer! For example, my sister and I went to see Take That at Manchester Stadium a few years ago, when they first reformed, and we were all jumping around, singing along, in one big happy, giggly, sweaty, musical group, and I have to say, I felt absolutely included and effected and moved to the point of euphoria. Plus all the showy, theatrical aspects were just as surprising, amusing and pleasant to look at as you would hope! It's not the same as singing a quiet song on a dark stage and hoping that every individual in the audience will consider your point or be moved to see something in a whole new light - and as an audience member I love feeling all those things, too - but I can't see how this Take That gig wasn't a 'me' performance...? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

Regarding singing songs about yourself, I think Joan Baez summed it up when she said ALL songs are autobiographical - even if the singer didn't write them. We choose to cover songs by other people (or buy them) because we like them, because something in them reflects a part of our experience or character or values. And the songs we choose in turn tell our audience a lot about who we are. So basically our CD collections give us away!! :)
 
Posted by Fran Smith on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:26 AM
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Fran Smith

 
gah, must start reading back over these before i post them! should say "but I can't see how this take that gig wasn't a 'we' performance...?"
ah well.
 
Posted by Fran Smith on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:29 AM
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Peartturner

 
There has only been one winner for weeks and that is Adam lambert, the young Elvis look a like is a true star. Have to admit he was poor on Thursday but his take on some tough songs has been a level above anyone else. Gookey was okay, i think he has improved as the series has gone on, my he even showed emotion on Thursday........ mind the Gokey howl at the end of his Rawk number last week was hilarious. As 4 kris, his kanye number was excellent i have to admit but its the first decent think i've heard him sing, he is getting by on the cheeky grin.

Adam Lambert is the only winner, he can do it all. Roll on the big final xx

 
Posted by Peartturner on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 6:32 PM
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Fran Smith

 
er, hang on... "I don't believe that IS a bad thing", I should say! :)
 
Posted by Fran Smith on Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 3:42 PM
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David Knopfler

 
Would never watch such shows Karine but, ehem, yeah, gutted that he didn't make it to the finals!... Oh okay I watched it too... but absolutely only because Danny's voice was completely top of the A list from his first audition. Hope he has a long, happy and properous career too! Seems like a lovely fellow too.

 
Posted by David Knopfler on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:31 AM
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