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City: Evansville
State: Indiana
Country: US
Saturday, June 13, 2009 

Current mood:  pissed off
Category: Music
Hello everyone, this is Jon from As Forever Fades. I just wanted to inform all of you about how our night at The Cage went tonight. It went absolutely horrible and I felt it was my obligation to warn our friends, fans, and other bands about the load of bull that we encountered tonight......

We met up with our friends from His Name Was Yesterday at the show. They're on tour right now all the way from Buffalo, NY, and were supposed to share the stage with us tonight. However, right before the show started we talked the venue owner, whose name is Daniel I believe, about our show guarantees that were promised to us and His Name Was Yesterday, and he denied ever making a promise of a guarantee. We both had offer letters that were filled out by Daniel and forwarded to us by our booking agent which showed that we were promised 50 bucks plus a percentage of the door. After looking at the offer letters, he still openly denied to us that he'd ever seen them or filled them out. So basically, he was telling us a bold-faced lie right to our faces and telling us that our booking agent was full of crap.

As if that wasn't enough, he went on to talk smack about how he never offers bands guarantees and it wouldn't have mattered if it was us or a national, he still would've only offered a door split at best. This guy even name-dropped the band Flyleaf and said that he had the opportunity to get them for a show for a $15,000 guarantee, but said that it didn't matter if it would've been Flyleaf or a local band, everyone plays his venue for a door split. How much sense does that make? In other words, he'll never have more than local bands play at his venue because no national-touring band  is going to play a show without a guarantee. Which raises the question: WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT OF RUNNING A MUSIC VENUE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BRING IN BANDS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TO PLAY MUSIC!!! WHY WASTE YOUR TIME, MONEY, AND EFFORT? THERE ISN'T A POINT!!!!!!! IT'S STUPID, AND IT'S EVEN MORE STUPID TO SCREW OVER A BAND THAT HAS LOTS OF FANS OUTSIDE OF YOUR TOWN BECAUSE THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY CAN TO SHUT YOUR ASS DOWN!!!!!!

So is breaking a fifty dollar promise to a band worth your reputation being ruined? I think not, but apparently the management of The Cage thinks so. There comes a time when a band has had enough and needs to stand up for itself. We don't care if some people won't like us now because we spoke our minds about this matter, because unfortunately situations like this happen all the time all over the nation, and yes, especially in Evansville. It's hard to understand why people don't have a lick of business common sense sometimes, but people like that don't. So if you all agree with what I'm saying, show some support and contact The Cage and tell them that what they're doing is wrong. Tell them they'll have to answer for it, and hopefully they won't be doing business for much longer so they can't take advantage of bands anymore with their shady business practices. We've had enough, and we're sorry to the fans that showed up to see us play tonight. We hope you understand and we'll play soon for you guys again. There's still the Maylene show on July 12, so if you wanna come see us at that show we have plenty of tickets available!

Until then, keep it metal, and don't forget to standup for yourselves as well. By the way, when we all went to confront Daniel again before we left the guy had his car moved from the parking lot and went and hid somewhere in the venue so he wouldn't have to talk to us again. Oh, and because he was scared to death!!! You form your own opinion of the guys' character..... Lord knows we've had other bands tell us he's screwed them too, so do yourselves a favor: STAY AWAY FROM THE CAGE!!!!

Thanks and we love you guys, our fans!!!!!

Jon, Seth, Jeremy, and Ryan
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Clayton(New Song)

 
Well if other bands told you that he's screwed them you should not have played the show to begin with. <br />
 
Posted by Clayton(New Song) on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 5:20 AM
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As Forever Fades (writing)

 
Other bands that were there at the show with us told us that......  So we were told as it was happening. There had been rumours that the dude was shady but some people start crap in this business just because they don't like someone, so until someone screws me personally I'm willing to conduct business with them. After they screw me though........ NOT SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />Jon<br />
 
Posted by As Forever Fades (writing) on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 10:34 AM
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Charlie
Charlie Gothman

 
......dude that suck s well hope he gets hes ass kick and gets had by some one ..................................you going to st.cloud at all this year?......<br />
 
Posted by Charlie on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 3:34 PM
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The Stash Knows All

 
I also was there to witness the events of the evening. I must say, the perp/owner of this venue is a brave soul, as I feel if the stakes were higher, the outcome would have taken a turn for the worse. If he were a man about it, he would have fulfilled his obligations to pay the bands involved as promised. It is called the entertainment business, which I believe the owner of the venue has no concept of. First you pay the people you..ve promised, then you take your cut. It..s not a one way street, you give, then you take..... in that order. All should be warned of this foe.........indeed!<br />
 
Posted by The Stash Knows All on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 6:07 PM
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Amanda [HNWY/STEMM]
Amanda Ward

 
Wow that's seriously fucked up. The boys from hnwy texted me about it last night but i never got the full story. that's wrong on so many levels!
 
Posted by Amanda [HNWY/STEMM] on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 6:08 PM
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Orion.
Orion Ash

 
Daniel once flipped shit because we had a show booked<br />Spencer Boyle was carrying our boxes in<br />And Spencer couldn't stop to get a bracelet because of the boxes in his hand<br />and he grabbed the shirt of our drummer and screamed in his face<br />"I told you as soon as the members of your band walked in here, they need to get a fucking bracelet!"<br /><br />All of the members in our band didn't appreciate his hostility over a bracelet of all things.<br />But that's not even 1/10 as bad as what he did to you guys. That was really shady.<br />I can't wait to see you guys with Maylene and BTS.<br />
 
Posted by Orion. on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 7:42 PM
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Joey

 
Man, that's some bullshit I would of kicked his ass
 
Posted by Joey on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 2:18 AM
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Spencer(GLOK)
Spencer Boyle

 
Yeah Orion is telling you guy's the story from the first time we played there. We got a door split that night too. We were not even paid cover price. We got $8.50. It was a $10 door. I mean we were splitting it with two touring bands but still. All I can say is to hell with that place.<br />
 
Posted by Spencer(GLOK) on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 3:57 PM
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Hey look, its David!
David Lee

 
that realy sucks! i wish i could help and i hope someone kicks his ass and beats some sense into him!!!
 
Posted by Hey look, its David! on Monday, June 15, 2009 - 4:03 PM
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