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Christopher Hettinger


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Age: 19
Sign: Sagittarius

City: RIVERSIDE
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 4/12/2008

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Sunday, October 12, 2008 

When one goes by the standard definitions, religion is inferred as being an organized and shared belief system, whereas, spirituality seems to pertain more towards the metaphysical ideas of the individual actor.  Seen that way, religion could be said to be when two or more persons share a particular spirituality in common; whether those beliefs are given openly or in private, and also the number of believers in size, are irrelevant to my eyes. Spirituality itself seems rooted in our consciousness due to our inability to observe our own inner thoughts. Even today, the brain's processes arguably remain the only item on Earth not fully sensible using the common scientific method. Thus an aura of mystery permeates it.

      As an aside, I recently debated with two young Christian women of the Baptist persuasion on the subject of their faith. Being an atheist, I do this from time to time as a form of amusement and as a sort of cognitive exercise for myself, and also, hopefully, for my given opponent. In these discourses, I have come to find that there tend to be two kinds of argument that most often come to prominence – The first being subjective, and the second objective respectively. The former, a subjective discussion, usually involves battling over doctrine or specific beliefs; and the latter, objective, far rarer, is over whether or not there is any actual corroborative evidence for any given claims.

       When it comes to religion and spirituality at large, much time and energy is put forward by followers in the defense of their beliefs, as well as to the attack of the claims of other faiths. Between denominations and individuals I see an unhealthy amount of nitpicking over some slight, and some not so slight ideals. When pressed for why one's own faith is "true" over another's the response is almost always based on supposed personal revelations, or those of others whom they trust. Personal preference plays the de facto role in that exchange; when the time, however, comes for an objective argument involving proof, all have come up embarrassingly short.

Cathy

 
i understand your experiences in these discussions all too well -.-
along with your reasons for even taking part in them, both amusement and refreshment of the mind.
i've seen your said observations. and although they seem silly to continue arguing with those arguements, for me i find it always hopeless as they continue even after the hard evidence proves itself absent.
unlike you though, i have a feeling of faith now and then, although strong it is not, i simply need some sort of proof to be shown to me to believe it steadily.
as much as it would be nice to believe in the fairytales, i find the biblical sotries and myths hard to believe. And as i find most religions are more or less the same story with small differences, such as names, i find it even more ridiculous to support a single religion and discriminate against another so closely related!
and how hypocritical that is, when most beliefs are of peace and mercy, the believers of that faith are quite narrow minded in religious beliefs of other peoples and, in the past, gone to extreme lengths to exterminate them in the name of "the true word".
in the end, i have long retired for arguing such cases. seeing as how they are always pointless, and nonimpactive. simply, only frustrating, and leading to a large headache.
 
Posted by Cathy on Sunday, October 12, 2008 - 7:10 AM
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The fact that every religion is man-made makes me believe that they are all false.

 
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Dakota Nielsen

 
Heh. I saw a commercial on last night, one of those evangelical ones, about how we need to save the infidels who are worshipping false gods lest they be damned for eternity all the while showing images of poor Indian people. I wanted to vomit.


Y'know I have a question, by the correct usage, wasn't Jesus an athiest? He may have been screaming the kingdom of heaven was immeninent and that we should all just stop doing evertyhing and worship, but he was also very anti-church am I wrong? Then again, I don't know if I want to learn... I'm so sick of Abrahamic religions.

 
Posted by ♥Pink Godzilla♥ on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 2:17 AM
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