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	BioKlastik Anon Monous	Yeah, it doesn't make much sense for them to specifically bring up the fact that she listened to your music. They could of just as easily brought up the fact that maybe she was a fan of eating fruit loops for breakfast. God rest her soul.   Posted by BioKlastik on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:20 PM [Reply to this]

	Destiney☼	D: holy fuck. people are nutjobs...   Posted by Destiney☼ on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:20 PM [Reply to this]

	BoneGravel & GraveMoss	Yet another murder blamed on a subculture of which the masses are shamefully ignorant.  This is a universal threat hiding with bared teeth on every social networking site in existance, yet somehow there are those capable of still spinning such stories to hurt innocent people by breeding extreme discrimination against a culture.  RIP Carly.   Posted by BoneGravel & GraveMoss on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:20 PM [Reply to this]

	D Damon Kleinschafer	I heard about this on vf as well. I'm sorry for both the family and you my dear. I hope you nor your label gets any public backlash from this. My heart goes out to the family.   Posted by D on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:20 PM [Reply to this]

	☣э†яoм∞ǻƃί®ɐdɐя☣	it's horrible how they blame the music these days in any situation concerning death and most rock music...like the guy who killed a few students at a college campus and then offed himself, they blamed Megadeath and "A Tout Le Monde"...or the Columbine killings that happened in Littleton Co...they blamed Mason for that (and ICP if I remember); then there's Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, Eminem and so many more different artists...ppl need to understand that when someone creates an alias/stage character in the music industry its all for SHOW!!! I'm sorry to hear that this time it was your music involved. Hopefully it doesn't cause alot of backlash towards your band and your loyal fans stay loyal...which i have no doubt they will.   Posted by ☣э†яoм∞ǻƃί®ɐdɐя☣ on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:21 PM [Reply to this]

	¤§riley§¤ Riley Volski	Holy shit that's terrible...   Posted by ¤§riley§¤ on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:21 PM [Reply to this]

	Crystal♦Raven*Moon☽ Crystal Raven Moon Official myspace	you name has nothing to do with violence. but we all been thourgh tha same way on being miss judge    Posted by Crystal♦Raven*Moon☽ on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:21 PM [Reply to this]

	~* Luna-tic *~ Luna Glesing	This article was very biased about Vampire Freaks...  the article didn't even cover that stuff like this happens on all social networking sites. It's terrible that a murder was commited, but being linked to the gothic website as THE direct cause?  I'm sure that myspace or facebook wouldn't have gotten a bashing of that degree.... even though people meet up through myspace and fbook all the time.   Posted by ~* Luna-tic *~ on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:21 PM [Reply to this]

	microw microw couch_ninja	you have no need to be sorry you did nothing to be sorry for it's like i allways say the only good person is a dead person and this just shows that im right   Posted by microw on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:22 PM [Reply to this]

	Cross: The Vile Angel	Music is a reflection of emotional states and experiences. It is not a catalyst for bahavior... it is the RESULT of what one has done or felt. It is about synergy, not about control. It can't MAKE you do anything, it is what you listen to when you feel like something. Anyone who blames music or faults music simply wants to relinquish control of their actions or those of someone else in order to take an easy way out. Zombie Girl music is feel good music and in my opinion, has NO negaticity in any of it's lyrics or beats. It celebrates a genre of classic cinema and a pleasurable, physical experience of dance and social activity. It is in no way related to anything vile or derrogatory.   Posted by Cross: The Vile Angel on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 6:24 PM [Reply to this]

	Cyrus	Hey Zombie Girl darling, they did the same thing to Marilyn Manson on many occasions. An artist can only be an artist and cannot dictate whom chooses to listen to the music. On the other hand if the killer were obsessed with "The Smiths" it's doubtful it would get media coverage. The media sees things through two dimensional glasses.   Posted by Cyrus on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:04 AM [Reply to this]

	♪♫ dr-m0pp ♫♪	apparently the world has learned nothing from judas priest and the beatles as terrible as it is murders have always and will always take place mainly because some people dont know any better or just dont care it is a shame to point fingers at innocent musicians, but the religious fanatics feel that they need someone to blame and if not books, music or movies or video games or cartoons who can they blame its a shame   Posted by ♪♫ dr-m0pp ♫♪ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:04 AM [Reply to this]

	Dragonsblood_Venus	This is just one more case in many over the years. Music (especially harder forms like metal and its subgenres) pops up in the news here and there as the responsible party in a whole host of awful acts (Charles Manson gave some credit to the Beatles' White Album for 'inspiring' him in his evil deeds - fucking insane!!). Judas Priest was accused of inspiring suicide, as was Ozzy Osbourne. The list goes on and on. Why do you think we had the PMRC in the mid-eighties? It's all the same: people can't face the truth about free will and they feel the need to find someone to blame. In turn, the artists suffer.   Posted by Dragonsblood_Venus on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:04 AM [Reply to this]

	Marek Marek Ziska	Yet another twisting of facts and nitpicking on things not related to the subject matter, just to make it more sensatious.. when will it ever stop?   Posted by Marek on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:04 AM [Reply to this]

	Davey13	and all the while we're supposed to feel sorry for neglectful parents who let there teenage daughter meet strangers off the internet...sounds like logic to me; some people make me sick, and to drag vf and zg through the mud because some pedotard lied and the girls parents let her meet these ppl unsupervised, that's outrageous.  they's another story blaming horrorcore because some wanna be rapper killed a girl, her family and a friend then sat at the house for 4 days playing with the bodies. but your suppose to sympathize for the parents who brought this stranger into there home whom they didnt know, because their daughter might have run away if they hadn't..give me a break   Posted by Davey13 on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	Ð¥SKHØRЙ©	I really had to stifle myself on the newspapers "comment" section. I agree with the comment below, I think that's the jist of it. I'm sorry guys, that has to suck - I don't know what else to say, this is pretty upsetting to me.   Posted by Ð¥SKHØRЙ© on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	[arrrt!]™	aww =(   Posted by [arrrt!]™ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	Westy_	I am surprised they didnt bring video games into it! R.I.P. Carly   Posted by Westy_ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	LiQuiD suGaR	I'm also a member of vampirefreaks.com. Heeeere we go again. *rolls eyes* The media is so fucked up sometimes...   Posted by LiQuiD suGaR on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	Who Are You?	I'm sorry that someone has implied you in something like this. I remember KMFDM getting the finger pointed at them after Columbine, and the ensuing backlash of being a trenchcoat and KMFDM t-shirt wearing goth. My step-dad sat on the jury when the parents of some kid in Reno tried to accuse Judas Priest of encouraging their kid to kill himself with "subliminal messages". This people that point the finger are all reactionaries and extremists looking for someone to blame, and rock-n-roll, and all of it's varying evolutions, have gotten the blame for it since it came into being. Hold your head high and make sure that people know that you are not to blame for this. And P.S. I still wear KMFDM shirts and a trenchcoat, and my dad got Rob Halford to sign his copy of Hell Patrol after they won the case. ;) Never back down.   Posted by Who Are You? on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:06 AM [Reply to this]

	Rich Rich Nowak	first off let me start off by saying that this is one f'ed up story. sotroies like this one make me sick. that is awful with what happened to that girl. just goes to show what kind of sick people can be on the internet.  as for the zombie girl link to this is  from what i gathered (and forgive me if i'm slow on the uptake here) from the news blurb is that because you have your music up on vampirefreaks.com (so do other Gothic industrial artists) your music some how advocates muder? ok so if that's the way the "media" wants to put it then  lets look at it this way then ( and i don't mean any disrespect to anyone im just twisting this back on the media):myspace is  a vampirefreaks like  networking site. so when some one get lured off of myspace and is murdered lets show that myspace music artists advocate murder as well.  so since that don't make a hell of alot of sense i think the media should just stick to the issue here: WATCH WAHT YOUR KIDS DO ONLINE !  not the music off a website or the people on the website WATCH THE KIDS beacuse sick f$#ks like this in the world exist and the best step one can take to protecting their kids is WATCH WHAT THEY DO!   Posted by Rich on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:07 AM [Reply to this]

	moxie	Ugh. I was horrified when I read that article. Someone nobody journalist just hoppe on vampirefreaks and pulled out what they percieved as the most "shocking" and "horrific" aspects of the site, all for shock value, and took no time to get to know the site or even try and understand the subculture. It's disgusting when people try this, they assume that all goth kids are hypersexual murder loving fiends, when most are as loving and nice as kids belonging to other subcultures.   Posted by moxie on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:09 AM [Reply to this]

	secretos sagrados	Does this REALLY suprise you? Remember the murders by Charles Manson's people? They stained the walls with blood of the victims using the words HELTER SKELTER.....a song by the Beatles. And Mr. Manson said the Beatles influenced his murderous acts. ..I have met many murderers in my buisness, and if they can avoid Guilt and a sentence of life in prison or the death penalty, they will blame ANYONE for the act. I have seen people blame their mother, their father, their brother....ANYONE they can prove close association with....Hell! Even the Son Of Sam, a serial killer in New York, would'nt take the blame for his murders....He said that his neighbor's dog....Sam.....was telling him to kill.......Does that mean that poor Sam the dog should take responsiblity for these murders? Should Sam stand trial? If a jury trial determined that Sam had, in fact, dangerously influenced the murders by David Berkowitz...i.e SON OF SAM....Should the dog be sentenced to a dog's short life in prison or the Death penalty....Exscuse me...life in prison for Sam..New York does not have the death penalty unless you consider living in the Bronx a death sentence.   Posted by secretos sagrados on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:13 AM [Reply to this]

	DJ Morpheme	Oh it's the Daily Mail, there's a surprise. I wouldn't pay any attention to what this so called 'newspaper' writes. This is what they do. There have been countless of these sorts of stories. The Daily Mail is the 'moral teacher' and is the UK's version of the Chrisitan Right. It's an awful and vile propaganda machine.   Posted by DJ Morpheme on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:14 AM [Reply to this]

	Will	I wouldn't be too worried by what the Daily Mail says. It's well known for 'writing' such drivel. My thoughts go out to her family too. The Daily Mail,on the other hand,just wants to create more sensationalist crap in order to sell more copies of its pitiful rag. Will   Posted by Will on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:15 AM [Reply to this]

	Ookami	Seriously? The little "blurb" about VF wasn't even well written. It was like the writer's personal little keep your kids off goth public service announcement. Not to mention that the article said nothing of the site being a social networking website, maybe it could be inferred, maybe. Though, if I didn't know any better I would garner that vampire freaks was a goth porn/prostitution site from that. "To this day"?! To this day, as though proprietors of a website are supposed to play parent to the world. All this from a rather seasoned journalist at that, someone who should know a little something of censorship. All that aside, I am truly sorry that a young girl died. I feel for them (her family), and I don't want to belittle the main issue there. People need to also face that if it wasn't her, it would have been someone else. This was planned. Maybe not the death, but everything else. I do believe in innocent until proven guilty, and no facts are released about how they took part in her death. The whole thing reeks of how the global media simply likes goth bashing. It's all okay in their eyes though, as it's a simple choice, not a lifestyle-choice.   Posted by Ookami on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:15 AM [Reply to this]

	The Darkling/B.O.W/T.F.W.M.H.	That is awful. Everyone should know by now people are responsible for their own actions. Seriously, enough with the modern day version of "The Devil made me do it" and start taking responsibilty. If you make a mistake or harm someone in any way, unless it's in self-defense, you have no one to blame but yourself.   Posted by The Darkling/B.O.W/T.F.W.M.H. on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:15 AM [Reply to this]

	GRRfriend Strikes Again!	I find it sad that people are still trying to link brutal acts of inhumanity with any kind of art.  People are responsible for their own actions.  The claim that someone's performance and music influenced them to be horrible, sadistic creatures is absolute nonsense.  If someone is going to behave in that manner, they could listen to [insert arbitrary music genre here] and STILL behave that way. My heart goes out to the girl's family, but trying to blame someone else for the incident is pointing fingers in the wrong direction.   Posted by GRRfriend Strikes Again! on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:15 AM [Reply to this]

	≠ Shana ≠	It's really unfortunate when things like this happen.  If the girl was a country fan or teddy bear collector on this website or Facebook then it would be reported as an unfortunate murder story with no other mention of her hobbies or musical tastes but somehow if it's someone from a subculture they always feel the need to link in websites and bands then somehow alude to or blatantly state that they are partly responsible when it's in no way the case. There is already so much discrimination against the culture along with really sad and untrue stereotypes.  I personally find it really irresponsible news reporting.   I'm sorry that you got brought up in this article - I would be horrified too as it is really obvious that what happened to her is nothing at all what you or or music is about.      Posted by ≠ Shana ≠ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:15 AM [Reply to this]

	Marty	someone has to be the scapegoat... unfortunately it is ZG :( Sorry to see the ignorance in the situation. @ZG: Be strong. @the Ryan family: Please realize where the fault is here and find peace.   Posted by Marty on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:16 AM [Reply to this]

	itsonlyme	just like Columbine and Manson and KMFDM....scapegoats......sad but thats what the world has come to.  Its sad but its even worse they try to blacken your eye by putting your name in the article.   Stay positive.  Love your work.   Posted by itsonlyme on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:16 AM [Reply to this]

	Kratthew D. Kraids	of course you were, people are stupid >_>   Posted by Kratthew D. Kraids on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:16 AM [Reply to this]

	The Administrator™	There will be always stereotypes in today's society. We've seen it all - Columbine, the moral majority and the Christian Right blamed Marilyn Manson, KMFDM, the gothic subculture, Doom II and the Second Amendment. When Virginia Tech happened, they went after the mentally ill, horror and violent fiction writers, and the First Amendment. But the main point, no matter what they say or pass any knee-jerk reaction law, people still KILL. It's a part of nature, somebody is born, somebody's gotta die. People who think that blaming guns, DooM or Stephen King's RAGE for such violent acts cannot comprehend the cold, hard facet of the real world. No such thing as a 'peaceful' utopia exists in this world. Only a rock and a hard place. It's about fuckin' time to truly separate fact from fallacy. No more bullshit from the moral majority or the goddamn Christian Right. "The place they go towards is a place even less imaginable to us than the city of happiness. I cannot describe it at all. It is possible it does not exist. But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas." - LeGuin Just needed to put up some of my thoughts. -Much love from Manila, Philippines The Administrat0r   Posted by The Administrator™ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:16 AM [Reply to this]

	The Diva of The Dark Devilynn Darqunys	it seems to never go away..  when something really bad happens.. it's blamed on the music that they listen to, or the movies they watch or the books they read.. i'm sorry to hear about this tragedy.. please don't stop the music becuz of it..  your music isn't to blame..   Posted by The Diva of The Dark on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:16 AM [Reply to this]

	Rich	How typical of the press.  They'll latch onto anything.  Alternative music being its favorit!!!   Posted by Rich on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 6:17 AM [Reply to this]

	LoserKid5150	That's so fucking stupid how the Daily Mail describes the social website. And they had to include your band's name. Just a pathetic attempt of right wing media trying to cast a dark "evil" shadow on those who are different. Dumb bastards. And dumb fuckers who murdered that poor girl.   Posted by LoserKid5150 on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 11:11 PM [Reply to this]

	J0N Z0MBIE™	thats messed up. mentioning you ZG was not necessary.    Posted by J0N Z0MBIE™ on Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 2:37 PM [Reply to this]