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Age: 37
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Thursday, January 03, 2008 

Category: Religion and Philosophy
 This is actually the second part of a series on compassion.  However, the previous entry wasn't solely by me, so it's not here.  To read the previous article, some excellent channeling on the nature of compassion, please click the following link:



(As mentioned, there are a number of wonderful things not also posted here, so please subscribe to that site)


 I'm going to add to it, starting with the first comment as a basis question - on the subject of child abuse.  In other words, does compassion as channeled work for something that's violent and painful?  It's a very good question, and representative on most people's initial response to thinking of compassion in terms of awareness and acceptance, rather than having a duty to do something to solve a problem.  I realize this is a touchy subject, and that what is written here may be controversial because of the massive cultural pain that exists.  However, bringing compassion to such a painful area brings a huge amount of clarity to how it is applied in the world...more-->

Compassion applied to child abuse

Question: So in awareness of children being raped, tortured or mutilated I should be "simply accepting that state, however horrible it appears, as a state of perfection in that moment"? Through this accepting of the "moment" I have extended compassion?

The choice isn't black or white.  There's no saying that if you "simply accept" a situation, you must retire to a virtual monastery and live a life of doing nothing about it. Accepting or not accepting a state as part of the perfection of the whole dictates nothing about any future actions.  You can be completely allowing of What Is, yet still raise a voice that cries out for attention to pain that is being generated.  You can offer nothing but a presence filled with a full and loving acceptance.  So the real question is more : do you fully accept the person and the experience, which is to say "do you love them?", or do you have reservations?

I have mentioned sexual abuse in my own past.  It is very human to see such a traumatic event as child abuse and react with anger and a desire to punish. Yet such an action is rarely for the child, as much as justifications may say so.  It's for the performer of the action.  The child rarely knows what's happened. She knows is that an intense and painful experience has been etched upon her soul and that there is no way to undo this experience. There is no going back.  In many ways, her life and her abuser is now intertwined; there is a bond that comes from the trauma.

The key here is that this experience is now a part of the child, including the link with the abuser.  When there is no acceptance, the child feels there is no love for this part of her.  There once was love for her, but now there is none, in her eyes.  Therefore part of her is bad.   This is the how the perception of a child works.  When there is no love of the experience, resting in a complete allowing of What Is, then there is also no love of the people involved, which includes the child. It's a reaction of the family which perpetuates the legacy of the abuse.  In many ways, even unintentional denial of abuse is more painful in the long term than the actual abuse itself.  It is a lack of compassion where a child expects it most.

The unfortunate aspect of abuse is that such a reaction is very normal.  Parents may resist taking in the reality that a child has been abused.  Their children are so dear to them and their identity that such damage is inconceivable.   It may mean to them that they are "bad parents", or that they have "failed".  Or they could simply refuse to see someone they love be part of something so awful.     To their child, it simply feels like they're now unlovable because their parents cannot accept them anymore.  It is ironic that the family's reaction to the abuse often causes more pain than the abuse itself.  When love that was once counted on disappears, a child makes inevitable conclusions about being unlovable.

In the future of the child, then, the part of them that is "unlovable" grows in such an atmosphere.  If the abuse itself can't be looked at, then all emotions stemming from that experience are also excluded.  The child may be expected to "get over it" - the result is usually a conclusion that the pain is also unlovable, and therefore should be walled away.   Sadness, reflexive body reactions, and boundaries may have the same conclusion.  The part of the soul that is "unlovable" grows like a stain, because anything connected to the original experience of abuse cannot be given room without compassion.  More and more filters, restrictions, and blocks appear to protect the world and the family from the "bad" parts of the Self.  This is a natural outgrowth of not allowing the full nature of a child.

Compassion, based on a full allowing of all aspects of the abuse experience, communicates something much more simple : I see you completely, and I love you simply as you are.   There is nothing needed more in healing than this.

We hope this helps you understand compassion more from looking at what happens where there is no acceptance.


QuestionWhy can't parents accept such trauma?  Why is so difficult to do so?


It is impossible to be accepting of trauma happening to others without accepting the possibility of it happening to you.  This is empathy.  Denying this possibility of pain and violence to yourself may temporarily create a sense of safety in your mind, but it also disconnects you from others who have this experience.  You cut yourself off from the ability to give and receive support and warmth.  This is why, for example, those who have been through sexual abuse and learned to love who they are, abuse included, offer the most empathy for others also with this experience.  It doesn't need to be this way; empathy comes from simply not resisting the experience and seeing its perfection.

Violence is part of humanity - it is part of the world we have collectively created.  There is no escaping this.  Denying the reality of suffering leads to an incredibly lack of resources to reacting appropriately to it.

A Tibetan Buddhist monk who lived in a monastery in India with no TV or news participated in an experiment.  His brain waves were measured as he was shown videotapes of genocide and wartime rape.  The scientists were amazed that his brain showed himself as deeply peaceful throughout.  His response was that he was already fully aware of the possibility of this happening to others and himself, and that he felt incredible compassion to others because of this.  Awareness creates compassion.
Awareness is not a theoretical thing.  Knowing that extreme poverty occurs from an economic standpoint is very different from allowing the full experience of confinement and violence while not living in poverty.  Awareness expands the spectrum of your experience - it does not limit it.

Of course action is a good thing in many cases.  Mother Theresa and Gandhi lived lives of action based on compassion.    It would not be loving to send a child back into an abusive situation, nor to avoid efforts to ensure such a traumatic event did not occur again.  The question is, is this done out of compassion or as an attempt to push away the reality of the experience?  Doing things out of obligation, assuaging guilt, or pushing away pain is not a place of deep compassion.  Remember when you have felt others do things to "help" you from this place.The following parable in the quotes page illustrates a deeper level of compassion.
Once a master and a disciple were walking through a city and passed by a leper who was obviously close to starvation. The leper cried out loudly, in a voice full of tremendous suffering. They gave what they could and moved on.After a short time, the disciple was flustered and still thinking of the leper. He was suffering as he gave to the leper, and still suffered. Watching his master throughout the encounter, there was no sign of suffering, no pangs whatsoever.  Instead there was a deep peace and an enjoyment of the sun.  Finally he asked his master,  "Why are you not being affected by that tremendous suffering? Do you not care?"The response was:  "Of course I care. The only difference between me and you is that you hear them when they cry out, whereas I hear them always".
What could be more compassionate than that level of awareness?
If you prefer a more personal, day to day story about compassion and a personal reaction, you may wish to see the previous article, "An allowing space" .
Aimhirghin mac Galamh

 
Acceptance (is also letting go) and brings welcome change (allow this).
Forgiveness (towards a perpetrator) begins with accepting and forgiving oneself.
Compassion (naturally so) actuates ongoing life-empowering transformations.

:) So accept all experience aware in (this) moment, another...
continual actively growing (alive in nature) integrate "wisdom".

Society becoming changed from within
...one person, we are many.
 
Posted by Aimhirghin mac Galamh on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 22:47
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Carrot Wax

 
Thank you!
 
Posted by Carrot Wax on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 00:29
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mel
Mel mcgrath

 
:)
 
Posted by mel on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 01:38
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i am the oneness

 
I was mollested as a child by 3 separate family members, all authority figures. I eventually sought help i my mid-20s, healed, and divorced an addict. I did the personal work to move forward. Then my daughter was mollested by the afore-mentioned addict, her father. I thought that since I had done my personal work, I had broken the chain. I approached my daughter's mollestation much differently than mine had been addressed, or not addressed, actually. The DA pressed charges and we had 2 years of judicial hell. I prayed my ex would confess and face the music, thus helping himself and also my daughter in the process. That didn't happen. His entire family turned against my daughter, which was more devestating to her than the abuse itself. I nearly lost my mind leading up to the trial, even plucking my eyebrows plum gone from anxiety. It ended with a plea agreement. Fences between my daughter and her father and his family have been somewhat mended. My ex has liberal visitation of our now 11 yr old son. This is a constant source of fear for me, understandably. Now my daughter is about to have a child, and I honestly will worry about this same legacy being visited upon this new generation. On the subject of compassion, my ex had shared with me when we were married that he had been mollested by an older cousin, and had also later mollested his own brother. Back then I encouraged him to get help. Now he's a crack addict and I have to tell you that I do not believe there is hope for him. My main reason for this belief is that just a little bit of study into the mind of pedophiles will show you that they do not recover. I have actually gone looking for inspiring stories about pedophiles who were cured...couldn't find any. I've got to be honest here....I believe that the most compassionate thing that can be done for these people and for the world at large would be to lock them up forever. I also believe that we are just beginning to see just how pervasive this problem is. I've done my best to educate, without scaring to absolute death, my children. I believe in the power of prayer and am able to manage, not get rid of, my anxt when my son is visiting his father.
 
Posted by i am the oneness on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 02:57
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Carrot Wax

 
Compassion, as I said, is about inviting the full reality of the other's experience. However, if someone's reality is so fixated and full of pain that change is unlikely, it certainly makes sense to be firm so that others are not abused.

Yes, this problem is pervasive. In a wider scope, pain avoided through addictions is even more pervasive. Our work culture is based on avoidance through work.

Blessings and compassion to you.
 
Posted by Carrot Wax on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 03:19
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i am the oneness

 
In reference to this subject, I'm reminded of how recovery for addicts, alcoholics first, was revolutionized by AA, the premise of which is accept that you have no control where alcohol is concerned. I have often wonderred what would happen if pedophiles could do something like this, "work a program", so to speak. This goes to what you said earlier about accepting the truth. I want to believe these people could be helped. It would be a real healing for me, to be able to have hope.
 
Posted by i am the oneness on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 04:18
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Carrot Wax

 
I've had an in depth conversation with a convicted pedophile once, and he did want to change very intensely. However, he had absolutely no compassion for himself. And those around him wanted to help - to provoke a change such that he wouldn't ever think such thoughts again. So not an unrestrained compassion.

It's a touchy subject, because of the damage such action causes. It's worth making sure someone doesn't compulsively cause harm, but if it's done without compassion, it just means more control and less possibility for fundamental change. That level of pain is very difficult to change - studies show the probability of a true reform is low. It's unfortunate how this is used as an excuse for less compassion.
 
Posted by Carrot Wax on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 15:39
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laughingRain

 
I saved this article also as its so well written. I too am a person who was molested as a child and I know this article speaks the truth, that the child feels that they are now bad, and unlovable, and this pertains to all relationships that are formed in the future. as well mother turned her head away. I can report on the positive side, I read A Course in Miracles in the 80's and for the first time I began to understand I was indeed lovable because our essence is love, then I could love myself, or begin that process and let others into my heart. thank you Carrot Wax, for putting such a touchy subject up for us.
love, laughing rain
 
Posted by laughingRain on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 13:44
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Carrot Wax

 
To be honest, I'm going to the depths of myself and trying to rediscover just how lovable I am. ;-)
 
Posted by Carrot Wax on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 15:40
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Prema Devi
Danielle Pettengill

 
You truly are one of the most lovable beings just by reading your heart.

Loving Self - from my experience - is one of the most difficult things to experience and "do" daily.

I found that at a certain age during my childhood there was a shift in my loving and being kind and compassionate with myself. As I've grown and evolved, I've learned to go back to that time but in the present time of now honoring myself with love and compassion like I would then if I had only known how. I depended on that love from my parents and why wouldn't a young person do that as it's normal, but there comes a time when we have to find it within ourselves and that takes great courage.

I honor you for your courage to love yourself and to have the strength within to evolve from such a beautiful loving space that is You and your truth.

Namaste.
 
Posted by Prema Devi on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 03:45
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Carrot Wax

 
It's comments like this one that *really* make it all worthwhile! Thank you!
 
Posted by Carrot Wax on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 18:53
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Freaking Hippie Sheik creating heaven that we seek
Kevin Leech

 
Hey Micheal ,

The lack of healthy dialogue about sexuality causes judgement and fear based on belief systems, traditions and taboos. Misplaced sexual repression in our society perpetuates a lot of ongoing abuse that takes place so often. In my line of work I get to work with many who have been abused as I was myself. I have seen many different approaches to healing , I beleive that long lasting true healing comes when we find self acceptance in Self awareness.

You live many life times living out your karma. Sometimes your the abused ,sometimes your the abuser. It is not about the right or wrong of it it is about understanding they are all parts of the whole Sometimes in this life time you are still working off all Karma from past lives.
Everything happens to us because we signed on for it to happen to us in this life before we were ever born. For a lot of folks this might seem a little strange. It is just what makes the most sense from a evolving awareness and understanding that we are constantly creating our own life's framework, constantly changing never able to replicate the past only learn and create with more understanding, based on what we believe is happening to us and feeding those thoughts in our minds. We change reality to fit into our own point of view not the way life really is. Life is the way it is we see and experience life the way we are. This is why two people can be in the same space and time and have two totally different experiences. It funny to watch people argue about the differences instead of creating in what they can both see and understand. So much life is spent on why instead of what can I create now that I am here.

There is a much larger percentage of people who were abused as children then most can comprehend and a lot just block it from there awareness. These issues come up later in life through physical dis orders related to the sexual areas. The key to healing is to accept that it happened . Nothing can change what has happened , what you can do as an abused survivor is to be conscience of what it is that was brought into your life by being abused.

Sometimes it is a life full of blame and shame or for others it is about surviving and living to share the storie so others wont have to have themselves or others live the same nightmare's. Life always has a way of working out it is us that make it so difficult. It is hard to understand why certain people do what they do , all we can do is to learn to love ourselves no matter what. As we open to the power, that we are as strong as we allow ourselves to be,we Heal. We let go of the stories of others and what they believe, we let go of the stories we have told ourselves about what happened and we create the stories as we think and create our life's to be Here, Now. Let the past be in the past and let this present moment flowing in your mind be of Love, the understanding that you are perfect just the way you are. You do not need anything to get there you already are that. Just accept you, for you.

Be peaceful , Be Happy, Be Love and remember to have fun living your life.

Namaste'
 
Posted by Freaking Hippie Sheik creating heaven that we seek on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 02:33
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Josefina & Arturo
Maria Josefina Lafferty

 
Childhood abuse. A bad thing. Continues to perpetuate itself.
I had a friend who after she was 60 shared her experience of abuse. She finally went to counseling that has helped some. The scars of abuse cut clear through the persons soul and never heal completely.
 
Posted by Josefina & Arturo on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 17:09
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