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Father V.



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Age: 31
City: North Chelmsford
State: Massachusetts
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Sunday, February 17, 2008 

Category: Religion and Philosophy

Sweet Mystery of Life

When I was a kid, my father would often play music in the house. His favorite singer was (and still is) Mario Lanza, the great tenor from the 50's. I learned to love opera listening to him sing arias, and through him I also came to love the American Standard Songbook. While my favorite singer is Frank Sinatra, Mario Lanza still ranks up in the top 5. Lanza's song, "Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life", a great piece of music from the American Standard Songbook, ranks in my top ten favorite songs of all time, and it was that song that came into my head as I read the below article.

The mystery of life is just that: a mystery. We don't understand it, and we can't. Sure, there are the mechanics of the body that we have a rudimentary understanding of. But life it self: why it is, how it is, what it is, is beyond the realm of science and belongs to Faith. Science can tell us how (to a certain extent), only the Faith can tell us why. What is good and true in one only serves what is good and true in the other.

Why? All truth compliments truth. Truth is One, and everything good and true (with a small 't') points to the One Truth (capital 'T') who is Jesus Christ. He is the Word through whom God made the Universe, the Word that the Father spoke to pronounce creation Good, the Word who was there in the beginning with the Father bringing and breathing life into creation. The prologue of St. John's Gospel, which speaks of this, reads like poetry:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Why? Because out of nothing but love God made us for life, and even when we introduced death though sin, He was not content to let us wallow in it. The darkness that is sin cannot fathom or overcome the light that is Christ. God the Father sent His only Son to bear the burden of our sin, so that again we might have life through Christ. "In Him was life, and the life was the light of men." This is the mystery of life, this is the mystery of faith. We were created for life, we are made for life, and Christ came to carry us out of this vale of tears into eternal life.

This article goes to show how little science understands.  Science can be good, no doubt, but it can't be God.  Brain dead, sent home to die with her family, and yet life remained and responded to care and love.  What a novel idea!  This article, and a thousand others like it, may be anecdotal but go to show that while we may understand what makes the engine work, we don't understand how or why it works.

Questions and comments are always welcome!

God love you!
************

Woman Diagnosed as "Brain Dead"
Walks and Talks after Awakening 

By Hilary White
LAKE ELMO, Minnesota
February 15, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com)

65-year-old Raleane "Rae" Kupferschmidt's relatives were told by doctors that she was "brain dead" after she had suffered a massive cerebral haemorrhage in mid-January. Her family had taken her home to die and were in the process of grieving and planning her funeral when she awoke and was rushed back to hospital.

In accordance with her own wishes, doctors had removed Rae's breathing tube and were waiting for her to die. She was taken home from the hospital, and while friends and family gathered to say a last good bye, Kupferschmidt's daughter Lisa Sturm used an ice cube to wet her mother's dry lips. When her mother sucked on the ice cube, she thought it was only an instinctive reaction. She said, "I knew suckling is a very basic brain stem function, so I didn't get real excited. But when I did it again she just about sucked the ice cube out of my hand, and I looked at my aunt and said, 'Did you see that?'"

"So I leaned down and asked, 'Mom... Mom, are you in there?'" Sturm said. "And when she shook her head and mouthed, 'Yes,' we all just about fell over.

"Rae was rushed back to the hospital and underwent surgery to drain the blood clot from her skull. After surgery, she recovered her strength and is now undergoing physical therapy and can walk with the aid of a walker. Doctors expect her to be walking on her own within weeks. Rae says she does not remember anything during her coma.

"I still don't know what my task is here on this Earth, but I know God's not done with me yet. How else could you explain everything that has happened to me?" Rae said.

She told family that she had seen angels in her room. "I said these angels are not here to take me home to my father. They're here to help me, to help me get over this."

"Brain death" or "death by neurological criteria," is a common diagnosis of patients who are said to be in an irreversible coma, sometimes referred to as a "persistent vegetative state" (PVS). Physicians and bioethicists who support the brain death criteria claim that such a diagnosis is reliable and means that a patient is beyond any hope of recovery.

Under new bioethics criteria, "brain death" can be used as a condition under which organs are removed from a patient while his heart is kept beating. Organ transplant requires that tissue be recovered from donors as close to physical death as possible and physicians are under heavy pressure to procure more organs.

The fact that in many cases patients who have been unconscious, semi-conscious or severely neurologically disabled, such as Terri Schiavo, have been declared "brain dead" or "PVS" only to recover, has undermined public confidence in the medical system.

In the US in 2006, Terry Wallis, who experienced a car wreck in 1984, woke unexpectedly and began to recover after 19 years in a minimally conscious state. In 2005 in Italy, Salvatore Crisafulli woke from a coma he had suffered for two years. He had been declared "nearly dead" by doctors after a serious auto accident that left him unresponsive. In Poland in 2007, a railway worker astonished his family and doctors when he awoke spontaneously after 19 years.

Doctors at United Hospital said they are amazed by Rae Kupferschmidt's recovery. One told Good Morning America, "I've been here for ten years and I've never seen anything quite like this."

Rae told Good Morning America, "God's got something for me to do. When I learn it, I'll unfold it and follow it."
robin

 
Wow! How Awsome is are God Thank you! :)
 
Posted by robin on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:13 PM
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MIKE - aka - BIG BOO

 
AMEN!!!
MAKES YA STOP AND THINK ABOUT LIFE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, DOESN'T IT!!
BACK IN MY PARAMEDIC DAYS, I ALWAYS TALKED TO UNCONSCIOUS PATIENTS, AND LOTS OF TIMES THROUGH THIS COMMUNICATION I COULD GET THEM TO RELAX AND HELP ME HELP THEM!!! AIN'T GOD COOL!!!!!!!!!!

PEACE&LOVE&JOY!

><)))'>
 
Posted by MIKE - aka - BIG BOO on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:21 PM
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Father V.

 
When I am called to the hospital I spend time talking to and praying with the unconcious too. They are still "in there", and they can know they are loved.
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:46 PM
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Gordon Lee

 
Greetings Padre Ventura
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My favorite singers when I was a kid were Roy Rogers and Gene Autry. They solved the great mystery of life ... because the good guys always won in the end. That's the way I believe it. Of course when I got a little older I started liking Hank Williams (the senor, not the junior) and Johnny Cash. They, I don't think, were solving any mysteries. They were just creating more. However, their songs usually indicated what consequently happens to a feller messing around with sin (falling into a burning ring of fire).
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Science sure can't be all bad. Especially if one considers who created all the rules for it.
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Respectfully,

Gordon Lee
 
Posted by Gordon Lee on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:22 PM
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Father V.

 
Gordon Lee,

I don't know why it is, but I am always happy to see a comment from you! I watch Gene Autry when I am home with my father on Monday and Tuesdays. Great show, and a wonderful cowboy singer. Pat Butram is a great side-kick! (I confess to likeing both Hank Jr. and Johnny Cash. Life seems a little more gray in their music.)

Science is indeed not all bad! When it seeks to protect life, advance learning, and seek truth, it's a beautiful gift. As you said so well, it can't be all bad, considering who created all the rules for it.

Thanks for commenting.

God love you,
Father V.
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:42 PM
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PILAR

 
Dear Father: Jesus is the way the truth and the life, we must always defend life, from the first moment of conception, that almighty God protect all of the sin, blessing, a hug

Pilar
 
Posted by PILAR on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:23 PM
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Father V.

 
Life is God's greatest gift, and must be defended. We must use His gifts as He gave them to us.
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:44 PM
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Catherine_Loves2Cook_Laugh

 
Bless you for posting this!! I know God is good that is why I believe in him and LIFE and I could NEVER pull the cord on anyone. I have been in that position and said no. I, 20 years out am glad I did not because it has to be God's timing and NOT man's timing!!!

GOD BLESS YOU FATHER!!

Your Sister in Christ,

Catherine
 
Posted by Catherine_Loves2Cook_Laugh on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 7:36 PM
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Father V.

 
Amen! This was a great example of God's timing not quite being the same as our timing. He is the Lord of life, and ours is to safegaurd it until He calls us home.
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:45 PM
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Taraღ

 
This is A Sweet Mystery of life!!!! Thanks for posting this Father....God is amazing and we are so blessed...Tara
 
Posted by Taraღ on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:24 PM
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Troll

 
Great article, Father, and one that most definitely pertains to life in today's complex world.

A soldier that was in my company while I was in Iraq took some shrapnel to his face and head, leaving him in a 7 or 8 month coma. They had to replace a part of his skull and he went through a number of brain surgeries. The prognosis was very bleak, but I (along with many others, I'm sure) continued to pray for him nightly (or at least, weekly). Then one day I saw pictures on the news of him conciously receiving his two Purple Hearts.

The power of prayer is incredible.
 
Posted by Troll on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:27 PM
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Father V.

 
Amen.
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:47 PM
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KaT

 
Unbelievable story, Father. Thank you for sharing it!
 
Posted by KaT on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:50 PM
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glenda - BCR fan forever!
Glenda Richardson

 
This article is is very interesting. I feel this woman's very possitive medical outcome had nothing to do with religion. Many doctors and scientists admit there are things about the brain they do not understand but are learning more about it every day. Are bodies sometimes can heal themseves. Also she did required surgery to complete her healing process.
 
Posted by glenda - BCR fan forever! on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 10:26 PM
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Father V.

 
Many doctors and scientists do admit that there are things in general that they don't know, even that they can't know. Again, it's a question of the how versus the why. Science can answer the how for the most part, but the why belongs to another realm. Life is a why, at the end of the day. We can know the "how" of human mechanics, but science can't tell us the "why": why does it work, why are we here, and where do we go when we cease to be here?
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:45 PM
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glenda - BCR fan forever!
Glenda Richardson

 
Well, Father maybe the answers to some of your "whys" is not for us mere mere humans to know. I know religion doesn't answer them.
 
Posted by glenda - BCR fan forever! on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 4:40 PM
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Ellie

 
No, religion doesn't answer them, but God often does, and just so happens to use religion to do so. :)

Thanks for another goody Father!
Blessings,
Ellie
 
Posted by Ellie on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:11 PM
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glenda - BCR fan forever!
Glenda Richardson

 
First you say religion does not answers these "whys" then you say it does! All religions have a god or gods that are at the center of their beliefs or they wouldn't exist. So saying that god answers are questions about life through religion is the same as saying religion answers these questions, but as I've written before it doesn't.
 
Posted by glenda - BCR fan forever! on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:43 PM
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glenda - BCR fan forever!
Glenda Richardson

 
First you say religion does not answers these "whys" then you say it does! All religions have a god or gods that are at the center of their beliefs or they wouldn't exist. So saying that god answers are questions about life through religion is the same as saying religion answers these questions, but as I've written before it doesn't.
 
Posted by glenda - BCR fan forever! on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:38 PM
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Brendan author
Brendan Roberts

 
Hey Father V, Your writing is so similar to mine. It was a great read!

Thanks so much for posting this about Rae. It sent shivers down my spine! Very inspirational indeed.

God bless

Brendan Roberts
www.godfact.com
http://hubpages.com/profile/godfactauthor - this is great for adding articles
 
Posted by Brendan author on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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Father V.

 
I will definitely find time soon to check out your blog. Thanks for reading!
 
Posted by Father V. on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:47 PM
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Jacqueline Gianna

 
Is it wrong that when I read about people I defend recovering, walking and talking, that I am immensely proud of my convictions, and overwhelmingly grateful to be who I am? I really love me for my love for the vulnerable, and I'm so glad that I defend them.

Am I wickedly prideful? Seriously?
 
Posted by Jacqueline Gianna on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 1:49 AM
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Hello Father and thank you for adding me to your space. It's very nice. I like reading the things you've put up on it. This is very interesting and nice to hear that this woman has awaken from the coma. I had actually read about it on Yahoo's news. It's scary to think and know doctors are pressured for more body parts and that they are taking them when the patient is still alive. I tell ya...that's awful to hear. I did not know that.

Thank you again and I'll be checking back for future blogs from you! God Bless You!!

Maria
 
Posted by - on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:11 AM
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†♥†Sandy†♥†

 
Dear Father. This just shows us that we cannot become gods, and decide whether someone should be taken off of feeding tubes or life support. I feel we need to leave this job up to God. He is the Only One who should decide when it is time for us to die. Thank you for sharing this article. I would like to comment on what you wrote before this article. I was so surprised, because I was just reading about this last night. About the Oneness of God, and how Jesus was with the Father, when the World was created. I guess I never realized or thought of Jesus as our Creator, I always thought of the Father, but as you stated He was there, He is the Word. So this fascinates me, to think as Jesus as our Creator, and Savior. I guess it is just pure logic, but something I never really thought of, since they are One, then sure Jesus was there in Creation. I just love the way God works, to show us things, His Truth. I was just reading about this last night, and now, tonight you write about this. This makes me smile, to think how wonderful God is, when He wants us to learn something. Thank You Lord, for giving me this insight. thank you Father, for sharing this, and God Bless you.
Love in Christ Jesus,
Sandy




Hebrews 1:2 2 In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world.


Bless,God Bless
 
Posted by †♥†Sandy†♥† on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:24 AM
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Jim is for a Culture of LIfe
James Blazsik

 
Father V,

Thank you for your blog - and stories of life.

I don't know how I can explain the feeling regarding what happened to Terri Schiavo; it seemed as though as you watched TV you saw a frenzy of people who wanted her dead.

How do you explain when people want to destroy what is weak, or pull the plug on those who expect us to stand for them?
 
Posted by Jim is for a Culture of LIfe on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 2:46 AM
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Jilly

 
I love stories like this. Thanks for sharing this one, Padre.
 
Posted by Jilly on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 3:41 AM
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Heidi Therese

 
I was just having a conversation with a former deacon shortly before I read this, and something that he said really resignated with me and it seems to apply to this story as well. He was talking about people spending thousands of dollars on psychiatry these days, and how the psychiatry and psychology profession CERTAINLY has it's place and does much good, but outside of those with serious special needs or disorders, a persons mental health needs to be rooted in God in order to bring about any real and consistent change, and in most cases God is really all they need. The one thing he said that I absolutely loved was " if your computer breaks than you take it to comp USA or wherever it was made....if your spirit breaks than you take it to your Creator, which is God.
Obviously the woman in this story had much more than a broken spirit, but she was at the point where she was brain dead and there was nothing a medical professional could do to recover her. In other words, her body was still functioning, but her essence, the life that God had breathed into her that made her different from the plants and trees was broken, and when that happens we as humans can do one of two things. We can say " I have done everything in my power to help this person and because I cannot will this person to live than there must be no other option than death" or we can say " I have done everything in my power and nothing has worked, so this must be bigger than me and it must be time to hand the reigns over to God."
It's how we are called to live as well, do your best, care for God's children by walking in the footsteps of Jesus, but just because the footprints dissapear it doesn't mean that all hope is lost and that the weight of the world rests on you, but rather that God wishes to carry you and instead take the weight off of your shoulders.
This special lady says that God must have something in store for her, but it is obvious that she is already unfolding this special mission. She is a testimony to all who have faith in God and appreciate the mystery of life, and she is an example for those who aren't quite there yet.
 
Posted by Heidi Therese on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 5:59 PM
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Heidi Therese

 
As a continuation of my last posting, I just want to take this time to urge people to not become to prideful in their acts in the name of God, the reason being that they are just that, things that we do through God's guidance as well as the will of the Holy Spirit. We are instruments of God's love, we're not personally responsible for the things we do in his name. For example, if someone asked me what my major life accomplishments were, my answers would probably sound somewhat boring and small, since anything really great I've ever been involved in has really had nothing to do with me at all.
It's an incredibly hard balance, and something I know I have to be constantly aware of and keeping myself in check. I actually try to go to Church, or atleast find a quiet spot to pray when I start feeling particularly proud about something I've done through my work with children, or in any other capacity that allows me to touch others spiritually.
Alot of non-Christians have a terrible time trying to grasp this concept and how it could possibly demonstrate God's love for us..but as a devout Catholic and a believer in the Holy Spirit I am not going on blind faith, I know that there is something else inside of me, completly seperate of my own will. Taking credit for anything that I do while under the influence of this force would be highly remiss.
 
Posted by Heidi Therese on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 6:40 PM
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The Rabid Philosopher

 
.. that's a very commendable view point; but I have one minor quibble:

If you cannot take credit for the 'good' acts, then why should you confess for any 'bad' acts?

There is a contradiction there you should contemplate / meditate on.
 
Posted by The Rabid Philosopher on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 3:17 AM
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Father V.

 
No contradiction at all. The good that we do is done because we have stayed true to God's path and allowed Him to work through us. The bad we do is because we have strayed from His path and not allowed Him to work through us.

As one priest once said, "if you get to Heaven it's by God's good grace, and if you go to Hell, it's your own damn fault." We can cooperate with God, or we can battle with Him. One allows Him to work in our life, the other shuts Him out.
 
Posted by Father V. on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 5:06 PM
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The Rabid Philosopher

 
.. I disagree. It is a blatant contradiction.

It is oft the theist view that IFF one is acting in a morally 'bad' way, then they are giving into sin / temptation, et ecetera - but also, that they have given into 'satan' (lucifer, etc..).

If satan is the cause of all of our categorically 'bad' acts, and god is the cause of all of our categorically 'good' acts, then no action stems from the self - that either satan is responsible, or god is responsible.

You can quibble here and say, "No, 'satan' doesn't 'cause' you to do bad acts" (though, there is some theology which would argue on this point) - but then you are in a position of saying that 'my actions are not caused.' If your actions are not caused, then 'god' cannot 'cause' you to act either.

You are just as responsible for actions that are either moral or immoral - and it is absurd to suggest that you are only responsible for one, but not the other; it is a blatant, logical contradiction that defies rational thought.

You can fall back on doctrine, but this doesn't get rid of the contradiction. Either one has free will, and is responsible for their actions, or they are not.

This is why theism fails - because it justifies itself with itself and then claims it is justified.
 
Posted by The Rabid Philosopher on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 7:39 PM
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MT Buddha (aka Ronny) 罗尼
MTBuddha AKARonny

 
Any form of religious belief, which can be manipulated and exploited by politics and business the way the Judeo/Christian sects have, is evidence that there is a connection to a conceived God, rather than an absolute moral God.

 
Posted by MT Buddha (aka Ronny) 罗尼 on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 5:17 PM
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Father V.

 
You're more interested in making a speech than asking a question or making a comment (as I request.) I don't like when people use my blog to make speeches. You have your own blog for that.

Now, to answer your speech, although you already "know" what answer you are looking for and won't hear anything to the contrary. Indeed Satan isn't the "cause" of all of our bad acts, and God isn't the "cause" of all of our good acts. Traditionally in Catholic Theology the sources of sin are the devil, the flesh and the world. I am not sure who in theology claims that Satan is the cause of our sinful actions, but this wouldn't be in Catholic theology. The flesh and the world were made good, are fallen through our sin, but redeemed (or being redeemed, Catholics would hold both) by Christ.

God is not causing us to act, but inviting us to follow the path He created us for. We are free to choose to follow and serve Him, or we are free to wallow in our pride and do as we will. We are indeed responsible for our actions, both good and bad. Our good actions are motivated and sustained by God's grace (as in doing good we open ourselves up to it) and our bad actions are a rejection of that grace (because we close ourselves to it.) It is not contradictory, just perhaps unsatisfactory to you.

One does have free will, we are not caused to do anything, but we can be helped along the way towards either good or evil.

This is why atheism fails. It begins with a conclusion and then disregards everything that doesn't support it. It falls back on attack and not openness, it claims that the 'truth' that truth cannot be known, and it more interested in disagreeing than understanding.
 
Posted by Father V. on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 5:29 PM
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The Rabid Philosopher

 
.. you got me wrong father; I'm not here to make speeches (and I am not atheist).

How can I gauge your temperment without testing your truth under pressure?

:o)

__________________________________________________________________________

As it pertains to the original comment (what I had originally responded to), something I find nearly intolerable is the aspect of Being that seeks charitable activity not for the sake of charity, but for the prestige and sense of self-gratification that giving to charity brings.

Such charity turns the object of charity (the poor, impoverished soul who has fallen to such a low state as to require charity) into a means towards one's own selfish ends (prestige, self-gratification, et ecetera).

Though I am nearly intolerant of such a Being (and it must be admitted, I am a Being), I am skeptical about whether or not there can be any other such Being. One can easily perceive Missionaries as using the suffering of the world as a means towards it's own ends (of increasing the fold, and thus the tithe) - though you will, of course, deny such a claim as absurd (and arguably, it is so). Yet the point still remains: human nature is as it is.

So when I see comments that purport to be charitable, beneficent, or otherwise generally 'good' acts, yet without the component of Being that wishes to claim these acts for it's own prestige (et ecetera), I am even more skeptical.

Both you and I have studied the same books - I am assuming you are as familiar with Pascal, Quine, Mirandola, Augstine, and Aquinas, as you are with Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates; just as I am.

So I know that you know what I'm getting at.

.. don't judge me too harshly, V. I am supremely confident that catholics are more capable rationalists than their christian counterparts.
 
Posted by The Rabid Philosopher on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 5:51 AM
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Heidi Therese

 
Human beings often can get wrapped up in the gratification and self-worth they find for themselves through acts of charity, you're right. I would have to say that when I finally got to the point in my faith where I knew that I wanted to give of myself and really live my faith, I think I thought that maybe things would get easier, but it actually got more difficult, because I constantly found that I had to put myself in my place...otherwise a couple of times I found myself in a place where I was completely confused because I had been nothing but charitable and followed God's way, yet somehow I would all of a sudden find myself in a place where I felt further away from him. That's why I mentioned that a lot of times after I accomplish something really great , for example through my job, I try to pray immediately after. After awhile it kind of becomes like riding a bike though and you get used to giving all of the credit to him :-)

On that note, I would also like to appologize to Father V. I realized that I too was guilty of going into speech mode. I am so sorry! Nothing but comments from here on in! :-)
My first comment being: Your blog is really an amazing outlet for God to shine through and touch people through discussing these wonderful topics that you bring up.
 
Posted by Heidi Therese on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 11:42 PM
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Catholic Connection

 
That was absolutely incredible, father.... thank you so much! :)

- Jay Jeter
CCC Chairperson
Matthew 16:18
 
Posted by Catholic Connection on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:41 PM
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karen
Karen Swanson

 
This is truly the way it should be, with us showing respect for God's gifts of science and using them to the best of our knowledge, but keeping God as the center of our reasoning and belief system in all we do. There are many difficult decisions in medicine, both for family, patients and physicians. The ones who keep God in the decision-making process will get it right.
 
Posted by karen on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:51 PM
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Mike

 
I remember back around 1971, my grandmother was unresponsive in a Chicago hospital. My mom's family was told that they thought Gram was in a coma and most likely in a non-recovering vegetative state, meaning she probably wasn't going to get better. She wasn't responding to any verbal or physical stimulus, etc.
My uncle Jim had an inspiration, knowing how much Gram loved to play bridge, he walks into the room and says "Two- No trump."
Gram replies "It can't be two-no trump; the bid was clubs!"
Gram died in 1987.
Yes, the mind is a mysterious thing. Faith, however, is miraculous.
 
Posted by Mike on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 9:45 PM
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Heidi Therese

 
elequently put :-)
 
Posted by Heidi Therese on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 6:30 PM
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Mike

 
Thank you Heidi T. :)
 
Posted by Mike on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 10:23 PM
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The Rabid Philosopher

 
"Under new bioethics criteria, "brain death" can be used as a condition under which organs are removed from a patient while his heart is kept beating. Organ transplant requires that tissue be recovered from donors as close to physical death as possible and physicians are under heavy pressure to procure more organs."

- I'm fairly up to date on bioethics literature (in fact, one of the specialities of my grad department at UTK is Bioethics)
- to my understanding, no bioethicist argues for 'harvesting organs' (that's what the qoute implies) after brain-death while maintaining the heart beat of a donor.
- this may be a medical practice, but it is not a 'new bioethics criteria' to my knowledge
- if it is a medical practice, then this is definately something that needs to be opened to debate

If I were to sketch out a quick, off-hand argument..

i) the practice of maintaining the heart beat of a brain-dead 'patient' for the purpose of organ harvesting is 'ad nauseum'
ii) such 'use' of a 'patient' violates human decency and otherwise diminishes a respect and compassion for Life
iii) further, such 'use' exploits the fact of the 'patient's' brain-dead state; violating a kantian respect for persons

.. it's a weak argument, but there seems something counter-intuitive in suggesting that a 'patient,' once they become brain-dead, cease to be a patient in becoming a tacit 'donor.'
 
Posted by The Rabid Philosopher on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 3:14 AM
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Heidi Therese

 
I just had another thought on this topic. As children of christ we are blessed with a creator who, despite the fact that his greatness ( for lack of a better word) far surpasses anything we could ever imagine or actually be, loves us and accepts us as though we are capable of understanding. The amazing part about this relationship is that he still gives us the gift of free will. It must be like when you're are incredibly talented at something, and you are trying to teach someone who has never done this particular thing before and maybe might not be very good at it. There is always that feeling of frustration that comes over you after awhile, because the particular thing just comes so easily to you and someone not being able to grasp the concept just doesn't make any sense. Anyway, God doesn't care how incompetant we are, and he finds immense value in each of us despite the fact that we are basically "brain-dead" in his eternal world. We cannot see him but sometimes we feel as though he is communicating with us on some level, and if we open our hearts to him we know he's there and we can feel his love for us.
Therefore, if I were to follow God's way, I would assume that I was called to love and care for even those people who seem unresponsive and far from my definition of living. I would also assume that if I love them enough that they might "wake-up", or at the very least they would know that I was there and that they were not alone. Most importantly, I would never take their free will away from them...God would never do it and that alone is all I need to know when deciding right from wrong. Everything in this life can be related to something God has done for us, and it's up to us to react in the exact way that he did.
I don't think I'll ever look at another person in a coma in the same way again.
 
Posted by Heidi Therese on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 7:00 PM
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~haykeynipa~

 
THANK YOU THAT VERY SACIAL TO ME. THAX A LOT...
 
Posted by ~haykeynipa~ on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 7:19 AM
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~haykeynipa~

 
THANK A LOT. CAUSE IT'S VERY SPACIAL TO ME.
 
Posted by ~haykeynipa~ on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 7:24 AM
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