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Ron D Core


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Gender: Male
Status: Married
Age: 23
Sign: Scorpio

City: Fountain Valley
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 10/15/2004
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 

Category: Music
Here's the interview I did with the OC Weekly

Topic: Vinyl vs. Laptop~Digital~MP3

Article Title: Sprawl of Sound

¡Analog Por Vida! Die-hard Wax Advocate Ron D Core and Groovy Psychedelicists in the Mix

By DAVE SEGAL

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 3:00 pm
Ron D Core's (he)art is in the grooves.
Ron D Core's (he)art is in the grooves.
Laptop Jockeys' Mortal Enemy

Ron D Core has been deejaying the hardest electronic music for 22 years, operating (with his wife, Helen Liang) Dr. Freecloud's Record Shoppe for 13, and running his Atomic Hardcore label for 12. Time seemingly hasn't mellowed him out at all. His views slam as forcefully as the tracks he spins during his gigs, which occur mostly in out-of-town warehouses and one-off events about four times per month. He's had a massive impact on Southern California's rave scene and appeared in the 1999 documentary Better Living Through Circuitry.

I interviewed Core for last week's cover story about DJ formats, and he produced a great money quote. To get an idea of his vehement stance, check out this statement from his MySpace page: "Laptop deejaying is like watching a dog take a crap. . . . Real DJs spin vinyl!" The OC DJ vet has some other piquant thoughts that deserve airing, too.


OC Weekly:How is your business affected by the increase of downloading and the use of Serato among DJs?

Ron D Core: It's had a negative affect on the whole industry. It's put a lot of our colleagues out of business. Underground dance-music shops and even the major chain stores are victims of laptop/iPod/download/MP3/Serato-style DJs. It has taken a lot of the impetus out of record shopping, as opposed to Internet or download shopping now.

We've been in business long enough to know how to adapt. We've survived a lot of pitfalls in the industry and in the scene, due to format changes and the economy and changes in general. We've actually been buying more vinyl for the store—both new and used—as opposed to a year or two back, when that whole download style of deejaying was becoming more popular. We're catering more to the specialty market. We have a lot of people who appreciate actually going to a record store to get their stuff. Outlasting everybody has probably been our biggest asset. Little by little, sales are climbing.

House and trance are leaning toward fewer vinyl releases and going toward digital releases. On the other hand, the harder the music, the more the vinyl stays prominent. That applies to hardcore, drum & bass, hard techno, breakcore, even experimental to some extent. Ninety percent of our customers [in those genres] want vinyl. The more experimental the music is, the more people want vinyl. A lot of these releases come in limited pressings, and you see a lot of cool picture discs, colored vinyl, shaped vinyl, gatefold sleeves—a lot of effort is put into the vinyl [to make it collectible]. We've been promoting hard to that customer base.

Have you noticed any substantial changes in the DJ circuit over the past few years?

Yes. I still play vinyl only, but it's something I have to point out when I draw up my contract. I have to make sure there are turntables there, and I don't like playing after or before a laptop DJ. Basically, a guy has to go in front of you and behind you and unplug and plug in and do a test and check either before, during or after your set.

There are three kinds of DJs now: the laptop, the CDJs and vinyl DJs. I can't stand laptop DJs. The word "disc jockey" doesn't really apply to them. They're LJs—laptop jockeys.

People who play digital like to claim that people who play vinyl are dinosaurs. "Get out of the Stone Age and get with the future mentality," they say. Then there are people like us—purists. Sound quality versus accessibility and affordability. Vinyl is more expensive, but I would much rather own a Mercedes than a Yugo. I see the laptop DJ as purchasing Yugo-quality music. [A line so good, we're printing it a second time.] The files really aren't the highest grade. On vinyl or even on CD, you get a really nice bit rate. It's nice and punchy and loud. You can hear the difference, especially when you're playing in front of a big crowd.

I have more respect for vinyl DJs. It requires more skill to match beats, to scratch, to beat-juggle.

The funniest argument I hear is, "I have 100,000 songs at my fingertips." I like to say, "Are you playing for 15, 20 hours straight, or an hour set?" Why would you need 100,000 songs for an hour set? There's no way you can even make a nice mega-mix of 10-second edits and get it all in. It's overkill. Most good DJs can take roughly 20 records for an hour set. Frankie Bones can make a tiny stack of 23 records last for three hours. Why have more than you need? I own a record store, so obviously I'm biased, but regardless, there's nothing else like [vinyl]. I love the whole analog sound.


Ron says this last bit as if he were discussing a lover. Dude is strictly hardcore.

Dr. Freecloud's Record Shoppe, 18960 Brookhurst St., Fountain Valley, (714) 962-9787; www.drfreeclouds.com. The store carries underground electronic music, vinyl and CDs, DVDs, clothing, accessories, magazines, books, and art.

Article Author: Dave Segal
Article Link: OC Weekly Article (Full)
WWW.DRFREECLOUDS.COM
Roll-e

 
hooray for vinyl. i agree that analog sounds better then digital, only time digital can come close is when its ripped as wav or flac.
 
Posted by Roll-e on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 7:34 AM
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DJ LoVeDaY ~~Record Banditz~~

 
I have seen you(Ron) play a few times ,always on vinyl, i respect and follow that creed, i learned on vinyl, and im going to stay on vinyl, the Crowd deserves higher quality sound, if i was to go to a show and spend 20-45 dollars on a show, i dont want to see some asshole with a laptop spinning(more like clicking) the wackness......oh the wackness....
 
Posted by DJ LoVeDaY ~~Record Banditz~~ on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 2:27 AM
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Ur Own Personal Neesa

 
completely agree with you.
 
Posted by Ur Own Personal Neesa on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 7:34 AM
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Dj Mercedes☮*GBA* *HPK* *AMS* *RECORD BANDITZ*

 
CD's= Cheaters (exception if you produce and dont have a press)

Sarato= Cheaters with money.

ME= VINYL ONLY DJ!
 
Posted by Dj Mercedes☮*GBA* *HPK* *AMS* *RECORD BANDITZ* on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 7:36 AM
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Selvaje

 
Word Up Ron!
 
Posted by Selvaje on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 8:15 PM
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hardcore for life

 
Put very nicely and to the point. Awesome!
 
Posted by hardcore for life on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 8:36 PM
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Teen Suicide Records

 
Thank goodness I have a hardcore record label. I've messed around with Serato but you're definitely a slave to whoever encoded it and it doesn't have as much definition and bass coming out of a big system.
 
Posted by Teen Suicide Records on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 9:39 PM
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MC SKRIBS

 
WERD!!

MUCH RESPECT AS ALWAYS RON!

REAL DJs PLAY VINYL!!
 
Posted by MC SKRIBS on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 9:59 PM
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Shane

 
You hunt months, sometimes years for a record which you finally track down. Impatience fires your cursing of UPS or Fedex assuming they fucked up your order, because rarely does that one hard to find record come in time. Then you wonder, is this really the one I was looking for? You completely obliterate the fucking box it came in, put it on your 1200's and at last, you found it.

You cannot download a song and get that feeling.

Keep it up Ron
 
Posted by Shane on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 7:01 AM
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DJ Eradic8tor
Chris Miller

 
Freakin BITCHEN! Long live the KING!
 
Posted by DJ Eradic8tor on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 7:01 AM
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MISS DVS

 
VINYL IS WHERE IT'S AT...FUCK MP3'S AND DOWNLOADS
 
Posted by MISS DVS on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 7:01 AM
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DJ FRANCIOS CLEMMONS
Francois clemmons

 
ron you rule... long live vinyl!!!
 
Posted by DJ FRANCIOS CLEMMONS on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 9:41 PM
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devious
Marcos Elias Jr.

 
Mannn, I've been dj'n for 18 years and made the switch to Rane. I fuckin' hate it and basiclly everything about it. I spin all types of music which this is helpful with. But it's a pain the ass and the sound sucks and it doesn't move when you move the record. i had to become a computer geek to tweek the fuckin' thing right and you gotta protect your computer with your life. don't even try and drink with using it.
I FUCKIN HATE IT. I just can't afford vinyl anymore. I'm in a fucked up spot and it has shown in my business and performance. I HATE YOU SERATO.

Thank you for keeping it Hardcore Ron

dev!ous
 
Posted by devious on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 2:25 AM
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JUST GEORGE

 
thats why you have been around as long as you have, laptop dj's have no appreciation for the amount of time it takes behind the decks to be able to do what someone like ron d core, or R.A.W. can do, laptop dj's will never be like a vinyl DJ! never have been never will be! keep doing your thing Ron!!!! Long live the vinyl DJ
 
Posted by JUST GEORGE on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 1:50 AM
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DJ TREΛCHΞRY ═╬ ✞ђє †Ǿ®ŋ þЯÏŇĉξ™ ╬═

 
I agree and do it proudly with 12 inches
 
Posted by DJ TREΛCHΞRY ═╬ ✞ђє †Ǿ®ŋ þЯÏŇĉξ™ ╬═ on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 9:08 PM
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I've never touched a CD Turntable, never will.
I walk away when I don't see VINYL!
 
Posted by on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:45 PM
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errorDELETE

 
BAhahahaha~Fukn' RON D. CORE.....KRuSHn'WeAkSuCKaZ & PUTTING LAPTOP PERPETRATORS ON BLAST! VIVA EL RON D.
CORE! "HeNeverLostHisHardcore!"
 
Posted by errorDELETE on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 7:22 PM
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denot5 (aka tHe wReCk KiD) Available for Bookings
Josh Renner

 
I'm tryin' to put together a group on here called "the preservation of vinyl"---"Vinyl enthusists and the dj's that spin em'"
Or somethin' like that.....I just posted a bulletin with that info in it.


I really got sick of it when I was at lollapalooza this year and every dj I saw there was using a laptop......it just pissed me off!

How much dedication does it take to carry around a 2 pound laptop!
I stress my back out every time I play out because each one of my record bags (crates) weighs atleast a good 50 lbs......now that's fucking dedication!

Not to mention the ritual behind travelling to your favorite record store and spending like 5hrs there listening to shitty track after shitty track (approx 2-300 when I usually go) just so that you can walk out with 9-10 records. (I'm very picky...does it show.....one tiny little sound can throw off a whole track for me) But that's the price you pay for going out of your way not only to purchase but collect these beautiful 12 inch creations!

Long live the vinyl dj's!

That's for sure, josh
 
Posted by denot5 (aka tHe wReCk KiD) Available for Bookings on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 8:26 PM
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DJ Wedne$day

 
Big up ya self Ron, hardcore from day one. laptop deez nutz.


wax forever
 
Posted by DJ Wedne$day on Friday, November 21, 2008 - 9:23 PM
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UnForGivEn

 
Well said. Like Ron said watching a laptop dj is like watching a dog take a shit.
Hardcore till death!
 
Posted by UnForGivEn on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 9:22 PM
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Jon E thin

 
VINYL-IS-FOREVER....
The FACT of going to a store and shopping for wax is (in my opinion) one of the best feelings in the world... The Physical aspect of buying records, touching them, and listening to them on the spot will never die!!!!! There is a generation of people that have done this for YEARS... It was a part which made us the Vinyl DJ's we are!!!! Technology will always make its mark, but it will NEVER take the place of Nostalgia. KEEP IT REAL, KEEP IT ON WAX... DIGITAL DJ's BEWARE!!!!
RON....THANK YOU....
 
Posted by Jon E thin on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 2:50 AM
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Rocco

 
I don't DJ but I collect vinyl. I love the whole process of playing vinyl. To me it's like reading a book, sure you can buy a kindle and read off of a screen, but the feel of a book in your hands and the act of turning the pages is part of the whole reading experience. Another example is Wine. Sure you can go to Walmart and buy a box of wine (CD/PC) but who really enjoys that swill? If you really want to enjoy wine you go to a wine store and pick up a bottle(vinyl). But if you have a bunch of strangers in your house at a party, are you going to let them drink from your $75+(vinyl) a bottle wine collection or the cheap shit in the boxes(cd/PC)?

If I were to ever start DJing I wouldn't dream of playing out with any of my records. You can only use a piece of vinyl so many times (about 50) before it starts to sound like shit. At that rate an aspiring DJ will go through a couple crates of records before he/she is even worth playing out. Vegas, Tweakend, Community Service set me back over $400 and were ordered from all over the world. It took me a year to find good copies. It's a special occasion when I bust one of these out for my friends to listen to. I can imagine these records having all manner of opportunity to disappear if I carried them from show to show. I don't want to have to guard my vinyl all the time. Even music that isn't old quickly becomes hard to find on vinyl. Try to find a U.S. version of Human After All, Fluke/Puppy, Pendulum Hold Your Color. These records are only 2-5 years old but to buy them today they are $30-$50+ after shipping. Even on the low end of the price scale a crate of records is going to set you back $750. That's enough to buy a pro quality piece of gear.

Vinyl has the same problem as CD. There are generally only one or two tracks on 2xLP worth listening to on a regular basis. For me as a collector it makes no sense to buy singles, although in some cases it's unavoidable (Southern Sun/Ready Steady Go) because they don't release the album on vinyl. $30-$40 for two tracks (remixed or no) is ridiculous for someone playing out. On top of this a DJ that plays out invariably has to stay up on the latest and greatest just so they sound current and have at least a handful of popular tracks. There is no way I would pay the price of vinyl to buy a record someone else wanted to hear. Back in the day damn near every D&B track was ahmen based. I wouldn't have spent a nickle on all that regurgitation.

On the plus side vinyl is becoming MORE popular not less. A lot of bands are now releasing on vinyl regularly. As cool as vinyl is, the cost of producing it creates an ivory tower like effect on the dance music industry. When vinyl was your only choice only the established players were able to easily get their music out. Now a days most of the new music I like has never made it to vinyl.

In short. I collect vinyl, but I would play out CD/PC.
 
 
Posted by Rocco on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 9:44 PM
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