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Age: 30
City: Bellingham
State: Washington
Country: US
Signup Date: 1/10/2006

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March 6, 2009 - Friday 

Category: Movies, TV, Celebrities

Just a quick distilling of my thoughts on WATCHMEN. We all know the score by this point anyway. Note: This is a SPOILER FREE zone.

 

The Good
- The opening sequence rocked. Cut to a brilliantly placed Bob Dylan tune, it managed to knock out a full 20% of the graphic novel and set a pretty solid tone for the picture. The editing was very good, made better by the careful syncing that bestowed upon Dylan's lyrics an almost narrative feel.

- In fact, much of the music of WATCHMEN was used wonderfully. The one glaring exception here is Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah", which was dropped with all the grace of an open-faced peanut butter sandwich.

 

- Patrick Wilson pulled off one hell of a good Dan Dreiberg. Not one of my favorite characters from the graphic novel, here he was easily the most relatable of the pack and his time on the screen lent genuine gravity to otherwise ambiguous threats. Ditto Jeffery Dean Morgan's Edward Blake, even if the guy looks too much like Robert Downey Jr. for his own good.

- The departures/omissions from the novel were wise, especially in light of the already massive runtime. This is most clear with the modified ending sequence. It accomplishes the exact same setup as the novel without the need for two additional plot threads, 15 new characters, and a mask for the already-present sense of doom. I mean, given a choice between a dollar bill and 20 nickels, wouldn't you choose the dollar too?

 

The Bad
- Any hope of the awesome pacing established with the opening was squashed before Dylan's last chords faded to memory. If I hadn't just read the graphic novel and been keen to the painstaking reproduction, I'd have been bored out of my fucking mind. The flick could have been condensed into 70% of that length and probably would have ended up pretty exciting. Take a cue from Adrian Veidt and save all the details for the high-dollar director's cut merchandising phase.

- Rorschach had Batman voice. Hrmph.

 

- Dr. Manhattan had Russell Hammond voice - completely unprocessed Russell Hammond voice. Not to sleight the talented Billy Crudup, but it really crushed the imposing figure of the most powerful being in the universe. To illustrate, just imagine Darth Vader voiced by Crispin Glover. See? No good.

- And while we're on the subject: If you're going to go the full-CGI route to animate one of your most critical characters, at very least take the time to ensure that the lip-sync animation is spot on. Nothing says "bad call" quite like an effects-based flick that uses the same animation engine as Myst 3.

 

The Comments
- Zack Snyder has a definite style, rooted in slow-motion action sequences rewarded with excessive violent gore and gratuitous nudity. In short, he's a badass pop director with his finger square on the pulse of America's diminishing attention span. He's also caught in a bit of a conundrum in that he's attaching himself to projects with which he's too enamored to adapt into functional cinema. WATCHMEN, like 300, was crushed under the weight of its own devotion. I would love to see what Zack Snyder does with an original screenplay. If nothing else, it'd be pretty and fun.

- Rorschach is still the hardest badass ever to grace the paneled page. My kudos go to Jackie Earle Haley for not fucking it up. The presence, if not the voice, was a pleasure to behold.

 

- Walking out of the theater to the buzzing of offended nerds chattering about misquotes and blue Bubastis made the whole 4-hour event worthwhile. The Comedian was right: They'd all be laughing too, if only they got the joke.

What'd you think?

Mike Watne

 
It really was the best part.

 
Posted by Mike Watne on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 7:51 PM
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Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler

 
I thought that Rorschach had the voice that Batman SHOULD have had. Rorschach did it so much better and didn't sound like he needed a Halls. He just sounded like a badass.






I liked Dr. Manhattan's voice as well. That's exactly how I imagined he sounded - like a new age-y very zen sort of dude with little emotion. I thought his voice was spot on.






Patrick Wilson was amazing. I'll agree with you on that, he wasn't my favorite character from the book, but Wilson made the character relatable and I really enjoyed him. Agreed on Jeffrey Dean Morgan - he was amazing as the Comedian, and he looks WAY too much like a beefed up Downey, Jr.






I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it dragged in parts.






The opening credits sequence was breathtaking.






My biggest complaint - I was annoyed with Ozymandias. I thought he looked too much like a wussy and he reminded me of David Hyde Pierce. I also likened his character to the pussy looking boy from Stargate - just way too girly looking and obsessed with pyramids. But, he wasn't my favorite part of the graphic novel either, so all of this didn't bother me all too much.






I still think the movie was very impressive. I'm very happy with it and I can't wait to see it again.
And I can't wait for The Curse of the Black Freighter DVD!
 
Posted by Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 7:35 PM
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Mike Watne

 
I always imagined Rorshach as sounding intense but distracted, like the reason he spoke in such abbreviated sentences was because his brain was already advancing to the next set of clues and he was sharing more as a side note. The Batman voice kinda hammed up his badassidness; it was always cooler to picture him throttling a dude as a consequence of his uncompromising train of thought as opposed to an obligatory function of the fact that he is badass.






Crudup did an excellent job portraying Dr. Manhattan in that, like you said, he really reads like an aloof, detached, zen-like dude. That part came across very well. But I expected at least a touch of gated reverb or a little flanger on his voice to account for the fact that it was produced by, well...nuclear fallout vocal chords. The unprocessed flavor combined with the high pitch really disconnected the voice from the character for me, and the shitty lip sync of the animation compounded it tenfold.






Agreed about Ozymandias. He really came off like a Smallville villian here. Thankfully, his role was small, too.






Honestly, I don't think I'm going to be terribly excited about scoping this one again. The once was enough to satisfy me for a good long while.

 
Posted by Mike Watne on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 8:01 PM
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Peter

 
I honestly didn't think Crudup's voice was that bad. I thought it made him sound kind of vulnerable, despite being this powerful superhuman. I also tried looking for the shitty lip-synching but I didn't really notice it. I realize CGI is never going to look perfect, but I didn't really notice anything too out-of-whack.

 
Posted by Peter on March 8, 2009 - Sunday - 3:29 PM
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Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler

 
OK, I hate that the comments don't have the spaces where I put them. Maybe next time I need to try html? Oh well. Hope you get the gist anyway.
:)
 
Posted by Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 7:36 PM
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Mike Watne

 
You're right...this new comment thing sucks. I had spaces in my reply above, too.






Sadly, HTML won't help too much. It tends to force HUGE paragraph gaps. I guess that's better than the compacted mess of no spaces...but I'm looking forward to the day Myspace stops fucking us over with its many "improvements".

 
Posted by Mike Watne on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 8:03 PM
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i drink this

 
Being a nerd. I walked out loving the movie. When has a movie ever been as good as the comic? They never will be because they're movies. Rorschach didn't disappoint me except for, yes the Batman voice.




The Doc and Ozymandias were annoying to me. Doc much like you said was mouthing the wrong stuff and sounded more like a therapist putting you to sleep. Ozy was overly girlafied and didn't give me the feeling of this guy can hurt me.




The slow parts were building parts with talking and the fast parts were heart pumping with violence and face-kicking making it a very entertaining movie. I will more than likely go see it again with another group of friends to hear different complaints afterwards. As a comic geek and a movie geek I will not compare it to its paper kin.

 
Posted by i drink this on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 8:58 PM
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Jerry

 
It is opening credits and his use of music that really are his strength as it was in the opening credits of Dawn Of THe Dead.


I thought Patrick Wilson was wonderful and I did like Jackie Earle Haley too.


He is way too loyal to the source material. He made the film for fanboys it seems more than anyone else or was afraid of pissing them off.


I like the second half a lot and any flashbacks involving the Comedian were great.


A lot of the Nixon moments were lost on our audience.




Good, not great, but still worthwhile.


Excellent points.

 
Posted by Jerry on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 9:00 PM
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Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler

 
That was another one of my complaints - the Nixon make-up. He might as well have worn a Halloween mask. The idea of Nixon having a third term though was frightening. Do you really think it was lost on the audience? I didn't even think about that...
 
Posted by Jenny O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 10:06 PM
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Peter

 
Zack Snyder must be stopped. While I am wholly uninterested in seeing this, I'll probably get dragged to it sometime this weekend.

 
Posted by Peter on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 10:50 PM
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Tony
Tony DeFrancisco

 
I loved it. The only thing that would have made it better is if Frank Langella played Nixon.
But not every performance of Nixon could be that good
 
Posted by Tony on March 6, 2009 - Friday - 11:34 PM
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The Critic Wannabe

 
All I could thin of when I saw the Watchmen Nixon was "Wouldn't it have been awesome to have Frank Langella play Nixon again, as opposed to this creepy, (and as Jenny put it) horrible-makeup dude?"


It probably would have been less distracting.

 
Posted by The Critic Wannabe on March 7, 2009 - Saturday - 2:00 AM
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Charmless

 
Ugh, stuck in California on business so I haven't seen it yet.




However, what did you think the jagged dialogue balloons meant? Rorschach has a gravely voice, and the crusty balloons exactly represented that in my mind when I first read it. I heard his voice in the previews, and it's perfect to me.




Then again, I'm one of those rare people who was not at all bothered by Batman's voice.

 
Posted by Charmless on March 7, 2009 - Saturday - 2:13 AM
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Mike Watne

 
Actually, the jagged bubbles only appear when Rorshach is speaking through the mask. At one point, he explained to someone that it was slightly muffled due to the latex material through which he spoke. So I expected his voice to sound different and slightly muffled in mask mode, but overall something a bit more subtle than staple DC badass tone.

 
Posted by Mike Watne on March 7, 2009 - Saturday - 2:58 AM
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Just Liz.....

 
I haven't seen it yet, just glimpses of the previews and I honestly thought that WAS Robert Downey Jr.
!!!!
 
Posted by Just Liz..... on March 10, 2009 - Tuesday - 12:59 PM
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Dick Buchwilder

 
I'm about to commit blasphemy...I had decided I would read the comic first just in case "the book was better", and I have to say: I was not impressed. Given the so-so reviews from the critics and the fact that I have enjoyed much tighter, more concise tales of doom and moral ambiguity I think I'll probably wait for the DVD.

 
Posted by Dick Buchwilder on March 14, 2009 - Saturday - 6:39 PM
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Mike Watne

 
The only real blasphemy is throwing good money after bad. Wait if you must. For my part, I'm glad I scoped it in a theater, but I'm not going to bust anyone's balls about choosing otherwise.

 
Posted by Mike Watne on March 14, 2009 - Saturday - 7:20 PM
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Loki

 
Good writeup, that was brief for you mike!



I loved it, Given I haven't read the comics in ohhhh 15 years or so.




As someone who doesn't remember much details of the books I must say I loved the film... Batman voice made me laugh too, that was a bit re-cock-ulous.




I was wondering what was with the humble whisper of a voice from Doc. Manhatten... It kind of made me expect him to be more in touch with his former humanity than he actually was. Perhaps it was done that way for a reason.




For the most part this film was awesome, I went to enjoy it not to pick it apart with a microscope. And I was thoroughly impressed with the film for it's constant action and plot development. For a long loooong film it sure kept moving along without the usual boring interludes of "character development." You know the ones that don't actually develop a damn thing, merely re-enforce what you already know about a character. I give it a thump up for sure.

 
Posted by Loki on March 26, 2009 - Thursday - 5:11 PM
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