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Sunday, November 08, 2009 

Current mood:  creative
Category: Life


1. OMG! How embarrassing for him!
Because I have no idea about their relationship, maybe he really did think she was ready and he obviously wants to be with her, he went through the trouble of buying the ring and it may have been hard for him to do this. Broken heart? I would think so!

2. OMG! How embarrassing for her!
Not only is she so embarrassed but she is probably mortified that she has had to put him in a bad light. But young girls dream about their marriage proposal at an early age and so I am sure she never wanted to be a bitch like some are calling her, but I wished more people would say no if they didn’t want it. It saves grief for generations to come.

3. OMG! That Mascot is hysterical.
Have you ever seen anything so funny as the Mascot’s reaction? I laughed for a long time about him specifically…not the outcome.

I was giving some thought to the lack of communication and understanding that goes on. This is going to be a tough lesson for this man. I’m sure his motive was good…it’s about proposing marriage after all. But this couple saved YEARS of problems by her saying no. I have seen so many situations where a misunderstanding of someone’s stance can cause trouble. If she said no, he just didn’t know her intentions at all. He not only didn’t have a good understanding of their current status in the relationship, but if it was public embarrassment that made her say no, then he didn’t know her enough to know that being centered out may bother her. I don’t know what happened but either way, they clearly aren’t ready to commit.

It reminds me of a friend who told me that "improving one’s communication skills may be one of the best investments a person can make". Learning how to be a good listener is something I have been endlessly working on. I tend to jump to speak before someone’s done their sentence. I used to dream up a person’s emotions based on what I wish they were instead of facing the reality. I try to use I think or I feel before I state opinion and I struggle to remember to ask others what they are feeling before proceeding with anything I feel really strongly about. But it’s ongoing for me. I have to remind myself every day. My mind can skip ahead…it’s kind of how I am wired. Some people can observe things easily and have a good handle on their surroundings. I can if I really think hard about it! :)
I think we have enough genuine problems in front of us and getting rid of the misunderstandings can at least make more time and energy to deal with them.

I am a real advocate of allowing a person to ‘save face’…meaning giving someone an out that saves them from embarrassment. What a great skill! You know, you say, "Oh I gave you the wrong impression, I’m sorry…no wonder you thought that!" Then the other person has an out.

Now, maybe she did whisper that to him, but geeze…the middle of an arena can’t possibly allow someone to save face at all.

Think I will go listen to the birds, see what they are saying today!
Karen :)

"If you make listening and observation your occupation you will gain much more than you can by talk." ~ Robert Baden-Powell
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m.paramo Follow me on twitter @ mparamo
Moses Paramo

 
Daym!

 
Posted by m.paramo Follow me on twitter @ mparamo on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 9:56 PM
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☮♥ Pedro ♥☮

 
4. OMG! How embarrassing for us!
 
serious, why people has to put this on network!?
 
Posted by ☮♥ Pedro ♥☮ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 9:58 PM
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Joseph Paxton

 
OUCH!!!
 
Posted by Joseph Paxton on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:00 PM
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Kristian }g{

 
My word exactly!!! OUCH!!!
 
Posted by Kristian }g{ on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 4:18 AM
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Johnny Todd: Tattooist (Gonna be a daddy)

 
This is so awful... and like you said, Karen-Not just for him, but for her too!

 
Posted by Johnny Todd: Tattooist (Gonna be a daddy) on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:01 PM
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THOR

 
Ouch!
 
Posted by THOR on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:01 PM
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Logan

 
That actually looked a little fixed and prearranged, but nevertheless it was still quite funny.
 
Posted by Logan on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:03 PM
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M Teresa Clayton's... Mystic Verses
Teresa Clayton

 
I agree.... staged.  If not - it's like the old saying goes:  if you can't handle the answer then don't ask the question.

 
Posted by M Teresa Clayton's... Mystic Verses on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:18 PM
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Jazzy

 
Maybe I'm cynical, but I agree, looks a little theatrical...
 
Posted by Jazzy on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:09 PM
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Susie ♫

 
booo hooo .. how sad for him!

 
Posted by Susie ♫ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:04 PM
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JUDY K.

 
..He meant well, but I believe marriage proposals should be done in private. People should not be calling her a B. Some people are so ready to attack & disrespect others. ........Oh Karen, how I can relate to finishing a sentence for people, because at times I get a bit hyper. I tood try to dream up how a person feels about me. It can be so hard to face reality. I also have a hard time believing that people care for me even wheh their actions back their words. I like what you said about "saving face". I try to do that too alot. ........I feel bad for both of these people. But I really think he meant well, but went about it the wrong way. She seemed to be the type of person who does not like this kind of attention. Also maybe has done things to hurt her & she is not ready to marry him. Or is not ready to get married at this time. ........I love your blogs Karen. I was feeling a bit lonely today. Some of my friends are not around over here much this weekend. It's always nice to read your thoughts. Enjoy your Sunday, Dear Friend. ..
 
Posted by JUDY K. on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:04 PM
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ÛñdérÐøg®

 
Proposal in private?? You're kidding right? Proposal are made sometimes with planning, as this one was done, and some are done spur of the moment when the woman is not expecting it.

I don't know about you, but personally, I want the person I propose to to remember it forever, something unique. Not all proposals should/have to be done in private, sometimes people like to share it with others (whether strangers or not).

I don't know who to feel bad for here. The guy, because he was turned down in front of what likely was 1000's of people (arena and TV), and because he obviously had no clue how the woman truly felt about him. The woman, for having to do what she did. Or all those people in attendance (including possibly family) expecting a happy ending.

 
Posted by ÛñdérÐøg® on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:31 PM
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JUDY K.

 
..No Underdog,
I'm not kidding. I'm a very private person. Some of us are & don't want to share this moment with other people. I did not say all proposal's should be done in private. But for me personally & alot of other people, we would not want this done in such a public show. Well, I'm sad for both of them. It did not turn out as he expected. That happens at times in life. We have no way of knowing how they both feel.

We have a difference of opinion & have to agree to disagree. That's all. I would not want to be proposed to in that way. My husband asked me when we were alone & I said yes. Then we shared the news with family & friends. There is no need for you to put down my opinion just because you do not agree with it.  Many of us have many different opinions & thoughts about this & other things that Karen posts about. We need to respect what each other have to say here.

Enjoy your evening. ..
 
Posted by JUDY K. on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:53 PM
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Astrid/Star
Astrid Rivas

 
Exactly =]

 
Posted by Astrid/Star on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 5:33 AM
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Terry's Source

 
Come on, Dude! With beer on your breath? Give up alcohol & maybe she'll say yes next time.
 
Posted by Terry's Source on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:05 PM
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Bud (Bring on Christmas.)
Bud Friesel

 
wait, i thought this was staged. Or am i thinking of another clip like this?
Either way, good thought Steven. Maybe making it bigger then it really is, but...

 
Posted by Bud (Bring on Christmas.) on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:11 PM
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Astrid/Star
Astrid Rivas

 
No Stever wasn't making a big deal about this video. She was talking about these kind of situations in general.

 
Posted by Astrid/Star on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 5:34 AM
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FourSpeed
Four Speed

 
shrug.............looks a bit staged, maybe he should have just bought her a hot dog and a beer.












 
Posted by FourSpeed on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:19 PM
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Mr. Sandal Hat
Alexander Neshev

 
People Enjoy Other peoples Sorrow , deep inside we enjoy seeing such scene for things that i regret?

 
Posted by Mr. Sandal Hat on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:27 PM
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The Official Victorian Days&Punk Rock Nights Page®
Ladyaslan DeLorenzo

 
I bet they both are in therapy now~ how sad~
 
Posted by The Official Victorian Days&Punk Rock Nights Page® on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:28 PM
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Jeremy McKemy

 
I'd have to agree with you, Karen... she saved them years of trouble.  She looked pretty stressed; I really don't think she wanted to embarrass him, but she just didn't want to marry him at that point.

 
Posted by Jeremy McKemy on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:28 PM
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LEGEON(BTT)
Legeon Omishi

 
..haah
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Posted by LEGEON(BTT) on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:30 PM
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RICK

 
..LIFE GOES ON & GETS BETTER,DONT DO IT IN PUBLIC...............LOL..
 
Posted by RICK on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:40 PM
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Little Sister

 
ooohh....yeah, i heard about a guy who proposed on the loud speaker at walmart. the girl declined. that was just bad taste!
 
Posted by Little Sister on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:17 PM
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MommaLyn

 
no shit? what was he thinking? who actually LISTENS to the loudspeaker at Wal-Mart?!?!?!?! And when you do, who can actually understand more than three words?!?!?!?!?!
Next time maybe he should use the drive-through speaker at McDonalds, pretty much the same sound quality!

Sigh. Cynical is, yes, my other middle name.....

 
Posted by MommaLyn on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 8:03 PM
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piratas de dios

 
we've got to stop trying to "own" each other!
obviously the poor girl was unprepared and put on the spot...
a manipulative control effort on his part...
thank god she didn't buy into it!
the guy didn't giver her a way out...
next time, have a ring in one hand and a banana cream pie in the other!
at least give the girl a way out guys!
ILY
;)
==Larry

 
Posted by piratas de dios on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:51 PM
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RtD LOVES YA! FOREVER!
T. GEenerash

 
GEEZE, LARRY! HE -WAS- (MAY NOT BE, NOW? HAAA) n LOVE? TASKMASTER! BUT, ONE; IFLY! HAAA


 
Posted by RtD LOVES YA! FOREVER! on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 2:07 AM
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Dark Musings by Masane

 
Poor couple :(
 
Posted by Dark Musings by Masane on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:55 PM
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.Øþheliac.

 
If they were together then, I doubt that they are now.

 
Posted by .Øþheliac. on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:59 PM
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Zeke Loftin
Zeke Loftin

 
Well good for her for not saying yes out of ridculous pressure. If you pull out that question in that type forum you should already know the answer.
 
Posted by Zeke Loftin on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:01 PM
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The Grand Buzzard (G)

 
I don't know, it seems possible, to me, at least, that a guy who proposes that publicly is trying to add pressure . . . making it more difficult to say no. At least this girl was strong enough to do what seemed right to her . . .

 
Posted by The Grand Buzzard (G) on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:02 PM
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Little Sister

 
Thanks for this blog. I think about this the same way you do. But I needed the reminder to be a better listener. I have some of the things you mentioned down pat, but I have a long way to go!
 
Posted by Little Sister on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:16 PM
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~~LALA~~
Laurie P

 
..double edged sword. embarrassing for both.  Maybe should have discussed the subject of marriage prior to getting down on his knee in the arena.  Maybe she should have just said yes out there and afterwards talked to him and tell him the truth.  At least she was honest...
 
Posted by ~~LALA~~ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:17 PM
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~♥~ CHRISSY ~♥~
Chrissy Loves Music

 
..Listening and really understanding where the other person is coming from takes a lot of practice sometimes. I with you on this one! ..
 
Posted by ~♥~ CHRISSY ~♥~ on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:21 PM
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Harshglare

 
Honesty and communication is the cornerstone of any relationship:

both were displayed in the video!

 
Posted by Harshglare on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:32 PM
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ariel porcelain
Ariel Leggett

 
..Thats absouletly insane..I hope that doesnt happen to me..I'm proposing in a resturant on Thursday. ....Love you quotes Karen..They are so great!!..
 
Posted by ariel porcelain on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:33 PM
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Quicksilver Night Productions

 
Isn't that "Love Stinks" in the background...? Quick thinking *cough* :-)
 
Posted by Quicksilver Night Productions on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:47 PM
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Lone wolf
Alan Archer

 
Haha. yeah some guys r 2 confidnt and deserve that.
 
Posted by Lone wolf on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:51 PM
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γοτθικός

 
Ohh Fuck!

 
Posted by γοτθικός on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 11:54 PM
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Glam Metal Cafe'

 
If you check I think it was a prank played on a few of the players of one of the teams since it was the day before valentines day. It wasn't a real proposal.

 
Posted by Glam Metal Cafe' on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:00 AM
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MyCHAIN™

 
1. We don't know how long they had been together.

2. That's really messed up

3. I say move on guy and find someone els more deserving, "assuming" they had been together for a time.




....Honor is a gift you give to yourself....


and they are saying tweet tweet lol  :)

 
Posted by MyCHAIN™ on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:11 AM
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MyCHAIN™

 
I have to add, i agree with you Karen, it probably did save them time and a lot of heart ache.

And not give up the search, forgive each other, and them selves.

Wow , ok think i'll leave this one alone

hope you're having a good one there miss esp lol :)





 
Posted by MyCHAIN™ on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 1:30 AM
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MyCHAIN™

 
why can't we delete these things, or edit them, anyways, just to clarify, i talk to Miss esp Karen on her blog, or i think its you lol j/k, ok i promise, no more flooding you're blog my thoughts.

 
Posted by MyCHAIN™ on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 1:40 AM
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Thea (Phedre™)

 
Okay, well that was painful, even if it was staged.  And one of the things that being a good listener will help you with is knowing (at least eventually) whether or not the person you're listening to is being honest.  Betcha she hadn't been entirely honest with him up to that point, and he didn't catch on...

 
Posted by Thea (Phedre™) on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:34 AM
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Tracy Dearsan
Tracy Dearsan

 
Ya, dude, have a beer.  There's nothing like being put on the spot at an extremely public event.  I feel for both of them.  Where were no winners.  Surprise proposals CAN be groovy, but these two were, very obviously, not as ready for such a committment - and in front of a throng, if you will - as they may have originally assessed.  I didn't marry the first guy who proposed.  We ultimately needed different things.  My husband told EVERYBODY and their dog we were going to get married BEFORE he proposed.  Ya, I married him anyway.  That aside, he really is a keeper. 
 
Posted by Tracy Dearsan on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:35 AM
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Craig T
Craig T Adams

 
After two weeks dating my wife, she broke her engagement with her fiance. I didn't know at the time that she was engaged. Apparently I was to be her last fling before she settled down. I was. I prefer to think that it was her relationship with the other guy that brought her to break up, not that I was that much nicer (which I was, albeit). So later that year, when I proposed, I was really just clarifying the relationship. And I'd been accidentally kicked in the face during a performance of "The Scottish Play" and just figured life was too short. When I proposed, I said "I know this is a stupid question" but I did it anyway. I thought for sure she would say no. Instead she said "OK, how about next week? Your family will be in town to see you do Shakespeare and finals are over." So that's what we did. It's been 35 years now and we're both surprised we're still together. Go figure. Listening carefully and saying "please" and "thank you" should never be underestimated in their power.

 
Posted by Craig T on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:50 AM
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MommaLyn

 
Happy endings! YAY! Congratulations on finding the right combination!!!!

 
Posted by MommaLyn on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 8:05 PM
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Kunasek

 
STEVER WILL YOU MARRY ME?
 
Posted by Kunasek on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 12:57 AM
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Z_Land_Fish_Z
Orlando Gonzales

 
Been there!!OhWell!!Moving On!!Who wants pie?
 
Posted by Z_Land_Fish_Z on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 1:02 AM
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Jeffrey Onehorse

 
Wait a second...this woman walked out into the middle of a basketball court at half time, either along side of him, or seeing her boyfriend waiting, excuse me but what did she think was going on???  An honorary non-player Hall of Fame induction?

The word GOOF leaps our at me.



 
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