Ouch! that hurts just thinking about it. I was doing that dotted 1/4 shuffle stuff in 5 (that you showed me) a while ago but without the HH clave you mention. That is some hard shit. Was doing that clave to some dotted 1/4 stuff though. Definatly some brain twister stuff...
 

Is there any way you can explain this further?  Tell me if I have the concept right.  You are playing in 5/4, the clave pattern is in 5/4 and everything on top of it played in dotted quarter notes which circle around eventually as a polyrhythm.  Am I close?
 

Yea, you got it. Just make sure you're thinking in 8 bar phrases.

  -a

 

hey ari !


the rythm ......7 on 10/4 or two 5/4

LF : ⎮X--- X--- X--- X--- X--- ⎮X--- X--- X--- X--- X--- ⎮

RF with LH on Snare : ⎮RF--- --RH- ---- ---- ---- ⎮RF--- --RH- ---- ---- ---- ⎮

RH on ride : ⎮x--- --x- ---- x--- --x- ⎮ ---x ---- -x-- ---x ---- ⎮

see u.....

yoann
 

yeah baby. that groove sounds great! check out some of the grooves on my myspace page. i'd love to hear what you think about them. they seem to be right up your alley. you da man!! take care.

rich

this one's called freeque deux (i must give credit to mr. paul stivitts and you for inspiring this kind of drumming)

rd in 5 x----x----x----x----x----etc.
hh in 3 x--x--x--x--x--x--x--x--etc.
sd in 4 -x-- X-xx -x-x X---
bd in 4 x--x ---- ---- -x--

is this tab??
 

Here's a little thing I've been working on:
Paradiddle exercise in the hands involving the snare, tom, and floor tom: paradiddle-diddle, paradiddle-diddle, paradiddle, etc.
with dotted eighths in the high hat foot, and a 5/16 pattern in the kick...like such:

      rlrr    llrl    rrll   rlrr         lrll     rrlr     llrr      lrll
t1   ----  ----  ----  ----   |  x---   --x-   ----    x---
sd   -xxx xx-x  xxxx -xxx  |  -xxx  xx-x   xxxx  -xxx
ft    x---  --x-  ----  x---   |  ----  ----   ----    ----
bd  x-x-  -x-x  --x-  x--x   | -x--  x-x-  -x-x    --x-
hh  x--x  --x-  -x--  x--x    | --x- -x--   x--x    --x-

It's hard to get the shit to line up right in this makeshift drumtabs...but I think it makes sense...right?
Once you get it (not YOU ari...you're probably already tapping this out on your lap right now while simultaneously solving a medium-difficulty sudoku)...once you  (anybody) get it, try it over a simple form in your head...any 32 bar AABA should do...or just count!  You start recognizing certain milestones where different parts of the pattern recycle to remind you that you're still on, or warn you that you done effed up.
Then try it over different tunes/forms/time-signatures/dynamics/instrumentation.
Take 2 advil, and repeat.
Cheers! ;)

P.S.  Let me know of any errors...I can't afford a proofreader

 

I've been working on something like this in 7/4 recently, except without the clave, instead playing the HH along with the shuffle, creating a little metric modulation.  The clave is a nice touch to the dotted quarter time.
 

Super killing!!! That's all fine. What you should do though, is play Ornithology left hh, Confirmation on the floor tom, sweep 32nds between rack tom and snare with lhand, spit bb's on the ride cymbal (swinging @ 400), and play the bd part from "Oakland Stroke." Pretty easy, but I wanted to give a warmup first. You can definitely use this groove on any singer/songwriter gig! Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

dude. that's rad.
 

I just bash/ride over all of it. ...with feel and sensitivity.
 

i can read notated music pretty well, but this.... im so lost! can anyone help me? it looks like the concept is pretty interesting but i cant make out the notes :S
 

xxxooo

hugs and kisses ari