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City: So St. Louis
State: Missouri
Country: US
Signup Date: 1/27/2006
Friday, May 18, 2007 

DJs be hatin?

Wow, this is major. Now thats all I hear, that DJs be hatin, gimmie a break. Some artist think they are that important that DJs have meetings to hate on them. Wow. I am outdone.

More education for the Indie artist. (Artist without a deal)

LET'S START IN THE CLUB

 

Let me see, where should I start. Okay, people become DJs because they love music or they want to rock parties or they just want to become a star and fuck groupies. You can tell those DJs that are serious about what they do. With that being said, DJs do not own radio stations, some DJs own clubs but most of them dont.

 

DJs who spin at clubs are hired talent, because they can rock the party. The club owner only cares about 2 things. People Drinking (spending money) and having a good time (dancing) so they come back.

 

Believe it or not, the DJ is responsible for all of this. It is the DJs job to make people party and have a good time. It is also the DJs responsibility to get people to the bar, so the bartender can handle their business.

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Most of the people in the club are just normal people coming out to have a good time. They are not industry people coming out to look for the next big star.

Keeping all of that in mind, The artist will come in at about 1am, when most people are buzzed and the club is at its peak. The artist will then want the DJ to play the song that night for them, so they can see the response.

 

 

If the song is played this late and the dance floor is full, 99% of the time, if the DJ plays something too unfamiliar, the dance floor will clear out. If the dance floor clears, the club owner will come see the DJ, asking, "What the hell are you playing?" If the DJ cannot keep people on the floor dancing and having a good time, the club owner will find another DJ who can.

 

 

Therefore the DJ will lose his/her job (weekly money) and the artist will go on about their merry way.

 

 

The alternative to this is for the DJ to learn how to break music. The DJ that knows how to break music and get it poppin knows when and how to play new music. The DJ is the expert in this category, so if the DJ tells the Artist, they cant get to that song tonight or they played it earlier, LISTEN TO THEM. Remember DJs are the experts on this topic; DJs don't go into the studio telling artist how to say rhymes or sing.

 

 

THIS IS NOT HATING!!! This is called doing our JOB as a DJ. DJs did not start spinning record to support any Artist Career. The DJ will be here when the Artist Career starts and finishes.

 

 

AND NOW FOR THE RADIO

 

 

Radio stations are in business to make money. They make money from advertising dollars. The only way they get advertising dollars is by having good ratings. Ratings come from normal people who listen to the radio. NOT industry people looking for the next big star.

 

 

Research has shown that normal people listen to the radio the most in their vehicle or while traveling. This means they listen about 15 to 30 minutes at a time. When normal people do listen to the radio, they want to hear their jam. That is why you hear songs over and over again. Do I agree with this, HELL NO. But like I said earlier, DJs do not own radio stations.

 

 

Mixshows are developed for the listener to hear more music in a shorter period of time. If the normal person hears an unfamiliar song, it is likely that they will change the station. If too much unfamiliar music is played, the listener will not tune into the station at all. Meaning no ratings, meaning no money. If this happens, the Corporate People, who own and run the station, will come in and fire everybody, and bring in a new staff, (We've all seen this happen before).

 

 

The DJs put their neck on the line to break new music in the club and on the radio. They go above and beyond to find and play the hottest shit out. (keep this in mind, because I will revisit it in a minute). They try to push artist that they think is dope. And every DJ has a different taste in music, so of course some DJs will think some artist are hotter than others. THIS AGAIN IS NOT HATE!

 

 

When the Artist gets signed and start blowing up, doing tours, making videos, selling records, making money. The DJ is left at home in the same position. What is wrong with this picture? How many RICH RAPPERS DO YOU SEE ON CRIBS. Now HOW many RICH DJs DO YOU SEE PERIOD? WOW.

 

 

DJs put their job on the line at the club and on the radio for Artist, breaking new music. BUT DJs be Hatin? HUH.

 

 

MORE EDUCATION

 

 

I told you that I would revisit a line I said earlier about the hottest shit. Who determines what the hottest shit is? Who comes to the clubs? Who listens to the radio? REGULAR PEOPLE. Who buys music?

 

 

NOT industry people looking for the next big star.

 

 

Artist, Next time you walk in club, look how many people that you just walked past (potential customers) to get to the DJ for them to play your unfamiliar song.

 

Figure out ways to touch the people, to develop a fan base. If the Artist is that hot, the people will bug the DJ to hear the song. The DJ will then have no problem playing the song, because it will be familiar. Example: DA Shop Boyz "Party Like A Rockstar". The song was big before they were signed. The people demanded that the DJs play the song.

 

Another EXAMPLE: Soulja Boy, Look at his myspace page, ask any teenager if they have heard of him. He has a fan base without ever being played on the radio!!!

 

 

DJs BE HATIN!

 

 

Next time you hear someone say those words, ask them what are they doing to further their career. LAZY Artist? You Tell Me.

 

Scape.

 

 

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Taylor J
Taylor J

 
<P>You are pretty much my hero!!!!  This was extremely well-written and extremely TRUE.  To all the St. Louis artists out there trying to get big--I feel your passion, but i'm not gonna make you a star!  In my four year history with Z107-7--the ONLY local artist i've played BEFORE the label told me to was Ebony Eyez "In Ya Face."  The club djs were ALL over that long before we were ready to expose it to "regular" people.  Why?  Because it's a GREAT song!  There is another aspect here--compare the people that go to a club versus the people that listen to the radio station.  Maybe one/tenth of our audience are club goers.  I'm not going to base my sole playlist on the "partyers."  A club is a great research tool to see how people react to things.  It's a tool, not a guide.  </P><P>And to the local artists pressuring djs who get a radio spot to put their song in, let me give you this example.  I had to dismiss a dj from our airwaves for attempting to play a local artist for his personal benefit.  I had a dj put a very unfamiliar, not very good local track in a mix he wanted on the air because said artist is represented by a PR firm that could help this dj get gigs at the PR Firms other clients.  NOT COOL!  You can't be out for yourself and be an employed successful dj.  Like Thurl said, the average radio listener hears a song they don't know, they're flipping the station.  It's a very competitive market, we can't afford to lose any listeners!  </P><P>Club djs who think they are in the business to "pick the hits" will learn the hard way.  Again, like Thurl said, a club dj's job is to:  keep the crowd entertained and buying drinks! I've worked with several obnoxious club djs who incessantly brag about their skills and play SETS of unfamiliar NEW music to try to show that they know what the next big thing is.  Sadly, the dance floor clears, the club gets a bad rep for not being fun, and WE, the radio station, look like we're not doing our job bringing in customers!!!  It's frustrating!!!!  So, you, the local artist trying to get the dj to play your song--you can risk the employments of:  club djs, bartenders, radio djs, and even radio salespeople.  </P><P>One more thing!!!  I've brought this up to my crew of fabulously talented djs--relax with the mashups!  A good mashup here and there is GREAT!!!!  However, we, the average music consumer, just want to get our drink on, our dance on, and party to our favorite songs!  The songs we've been exposed to on the radio!!!  We LOVE to dance to "Return of the Mack" and "Yeah," but we don't need to hear the acapella "Yeah" over the "Return of the Mack" beat--we like both songs--play them both!!!!  A good mashup here and there--fantastic, not an entire evening--it gets annoying!!</P><P>Love local artists, love club djs, love radio mixers--we just need to get on the same page!  </P><P>     </P>
 
Posted by Taylor J on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 3:42 AM
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Tha StreetMonstaz

 
NICE DROP THURL! THESE EMOTIONAL ASS DJ'Z BE HATIN OTHA DJ'S, THAT GET IT IN- NOT ARTIST!!!
 
Posted by Tha StreetMonstaz on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 3:42 AM
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MELLY-MEL/CEO OF P-FUNK 187 ENT.

 
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">keep schooling this people out here because they that it is easy! i got your back on everything that you wrote! SEE YOU IN THE STREETS THAT IS WHY I LOVE THOSE DERRTY DJ'S/CORE DJ'S! KEEP DOING A GOOD JOB!

MELLY-MEL P-FUNK 187 ENTERTAINEMENT 
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Posted by MELLY-MEL/CEO OF P-FUNK 187 ENT. on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 1:22 PM
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DJ AKEEM "The Youngest"

 
I feel u hommie
 
Posted by DJ AKEEM "The Youngest" on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:19 PM
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RIGHTEOUSNESS, ORDER, AND RECIPROCITY

 
i agree. the DJ has to go from perpetuating the industry to enhancing it. the DJ has to break new music while pushing the hottest tunes. its a tuff job no time for hatin really. MAN excellent post. extra kudos
 
Posted by RIGHTEOUSNESS, ORDER, AND RECIPROCITY on Monday, June 11, 2007 - 7:59 PM
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♪♪THE EXCEPTION♥

 
well said, by your number one fan!!!!! love ya! Thurl, you are always gonna have the artists (preferably the ones that are wack and just can't seem to understand why they can't catch a break) that say youre hating cause you don't play their shit...oh well. Play what YOU KNOW will rock the house...cause what you just broke down in your blog (for the lames that don't understand) is oh so true...once they understand that concept, they will be more understanding. But until then, watch the lames and haters go nuts right in front of your face.
 
Posted by ♪♪THE EXCEPTION♥ on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 7:08 AM
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MR. FRANK @ HOME NIGHTCLUB
Cortez Frank

 
Tell em Derrty
 
Posted by MR. FRANK @ HOME NIGHTCLUB on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 5:45 AM
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theDAMNtruth.NET

 
I have to start reading more DJ's pages because you guys are making a lot of sense to me lately lol.... This was presented in a nice, clear cut fashion to the potential would be local artist. You painted a picture of your frustration without actually going overboard and totally alienating yourself from the artist(s), so you allowed them "room" to actually think about what they've just read instead of setting the table for them to have a "Man.... FUCK this nigga!" type of reaction.... good stuff... Holla at it-

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Posted by theDAMNtruth.NET on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 9:13 PM
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MR.DIZZIE DA REEPA

 
NOW THATS WISDOM.......MYSELF BEING ONE OF THOSE ARTIST NEVER THOUGHT OF IT LIKE THAT..........RITE ON FOR THE AWAKENING.......
 
Posted by MR.DIZZIE DA REEPA on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 7:13 AM
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LORD ACE
JOHNATHAN SWEARENGEN

 
CHUUUURCH, I FEEL YOU THURL, KNOWLEDGE LIKE THAT WILL LEAVE A LOT OF HATERS FEELING SALTY, 1 LUV...........100
 
Posted by LORD ACE on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 4:05 AM
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Butta B(help me save a life) read my blog

 
DOPE ASS MESSAGE WELL DONE HOMIE
 
Posted by Butta B(help me save a life) read my blog on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 8:36 PM
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