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Gender: Female
Status: Single
Age: 33
Sign: Sagittarius

City: Daegu
Country: KR
Signup Date: 1/28/2006

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September 30, 2009 - Wednesday 

Category: Travel and Places
If you don't live in my particular neck of Asia, or at least somewhere outside of the continental United States, you have no idea just how nutty people are being about H1N1. I will grant you that people in the US are a little nutty on their own about H1N1, my favorite particular brand of nut-tacular being Swine Flu parties, like chicken pox parties but with the flu. Seriously?

At least, in that particular case, people are not going to insane lengths to try to avoid some kind of infection. Because, really, in South Korea it's gotten a little more than the usual brand of Korean crazy. I knew this was coming back in May when I went to Shanghai. Being that at the time I was suffering from catastrophic tonsillitis I admit to being worried about being quarantined when I hit China for having a fever. I took Tylenol on the plane and drank a lot of cold water and managed to get through Chinese customs relatively unscathed. I did may week of training, got a minor case of tonsil swelling, but was back to Korea before it got out of hand. On the way back I worried again about ending up in quarantine, but again had no fever, aside from having to fill out a detailed for about my health (have you had a fever in the last month: No, no, of course not), it was not a big deal.

Until about four days after I got home and had Korean CDC call me to ask if I was sick. I was actually sick at the time but it was the tonsillitis again, so I said I was fine and life went on as usual. Until two days later at work when the CDC called the school office to check on my health. This was all back in May when swine flu was just starting out. And in reality I got lucky, I had a friend in China that did end up in quarantine after the guy on the plane next to him tested positive after landing in Beijing. That happened only about three days after my successful escape from Shanghai.

I put it out of my mind until the boy returned to Korea from his summer vacation in Alaska and mentioned that at the airport they had everyone getting off the plane line up in rows to have their temperature taken. Rather than just passing through the screening cameras that test for body temperature, they were now physically testing every living body by sticking a thermometer in the ear and reading the temperature. When I left Korea for Chicago this summer I was worried about this happening to me when I hit the States, but surprisingly the US seemed to be rather laissez-faire about the whole thing. I just walked into the country, did my month of teaching and returned to Korea. Granted on the return I did get ambushed at the gate by the Koreans with thermometers, and since I was still under the influence of tonsillitis I felt really uncomfortable about it, but what are you going to do.

After finally having surgery and feeling so much better about life in general I figured health was in my future and I was ready to put thinking about illness all the time behind me. However sadly it was not to be. It started around the beginning of the semester with the rumors. A number of Universities in Korea were taking some very strange routes to prevent infections at schools. Some schools were refusing to let anyone into class until they had spent seven days in Korea at home in self quarantine. This seemed fairly ridiculous at first. And worse it applied mostly to foreigners, students and teachers, but not so much to Korean students.

The general myth, from May to mid-September, that was Swine Flu was a forefinger problem. Some schools and hagwons went so far as to forbid their teachers in June and July from "associating with other forefingers"*. Considering that most schools had no real control over a persons downtime this became a hot topic of foreigners associating with each other in bars and other place. It seemed like it couldn't really get worse from there but it has.

Some schools, and universities, have instituted a policy of temperature testing daily before classes. This policy is directed only at foreign professors and foreign students. When I went to the Body Painting festival in Daegu sure enough there were two girls standing at the gate with a thermometer. The Koreans got their arm bands and walked on through, but my friends and I had to be tested to go in. They stuck the thermometer into the heads of two boys and then went for me and I said no. I wanted it cleaned. They wiped it off with the same piece of tissue they used on the two boys before me and I said no. Finally, one of them reach into the box pulled out the so far unused cover and I consented, knowing that I'd probably be the only person that day since the first person to have a clean thermometer used on me.

I have a friend who teaches here mostly with adults. One of their students was a part of the Korean CDC who thinks that they way a lot of companies and businesses are handling the flu is just downright stupid. The best thing is to wash your hands every couple of hours, cough into your elbow, and otherwise live life. The constant temperature testing does little more than raise levels of hysteria while tripling the chances of a catastrophic infection of something else.

The other day one of the "class leaders" from some segment of the student body was running around sticking a thermometer into the ears of people in her "class" at random. Just in and out and in and out, no wipe, no clean, not sterilizing. That is far more likely to cause infections than to actually prevent anything. Further I found out yesterday that the school festival will be canceled because of the potential for students getting the flu. I figure my college students are much more likely to get the flu from just being college students; generally unruly, unwashed, bunch of germ bags that they are.

My special favorite, which I think shows just how silly Korea has gotten, came from the movies a few days ago. I went to see a show with a friend and just before the preview their was a Korean community service video. It begins with a Korean guy in the bathroom doing what Korean guys do in the bathroom. Aside from the urinating, he was touching his hair, blowing his nose in his hand, picking his nose, and doing disgusting things with that, and then zipping up and walking out of the bathroom. Cut from this to a Korean girl carefully laying toilet paper all over a seat which she eventually hovers over (I hate the alien space projectile hover peeing, by the way, just SIT DOWN), and then flushing and washing her hands compulsively like a doctor about to go into surgery.

Next seen she is walking out of the bathroom and up walks the urinating Korean guy with some kimbop. He breaks a piece off with his hand, puts in in her mouth, than squeezes her cheeks, rubs her face, making lovely dovey noises as they walk away hand in hand.

I laughed til I almost wet myself. At least the Koreans are starting to realize that it is not just about the cleanliness of the foreigners. Still, this whole thing is getting increasingly more annoying. It almost has me wishing for some kind of serious outbreak of something, like the first shot in the zombie-apocalypse. In the meantime I continue to do my job, wash my hands, and stay away from the students who think projectile coughing is funny.


*

So far at least one teacher has been fired over swine flu. Which is like the height of ridiculous. While I understand that the academy wants to have the best interest of Korean children in mind, that's just stupid.

The first case of H1N1 in Korea was actually brought over by a Korean.

So far there are just under 10,000 reported cases of swine flu, and 9 reported deaths.

For some perspective: According to the annual death report, the NSO said a total of 12,858 people, or 24.3 people for every 100,000 Koreans, took their own lives in 2008.

™ ♠ Richard Morales ♠ ©
Richard Morales

 
They advertising the hell out of flu shots being available at pharmacies left and right over here.

 
Posted by ™ ♠ Richard Morales ♠ © on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 1:36 AM
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saradevil

 
Which is just so stupid. It's the FREAKIN FLU? Gods, it's just so tedious.

 
Posted by saradevil on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:32 AM
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recyclesculptor's recycleart
recycleart Nathan Nicholls

 
oh but suicide can be honorable, Pig flu is a disgrace.

 
Posted by recyclesculptor's recycleart on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 1:45 AM
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saradevil

 
I have some friends in the UAE who had to deal with all the pigs in the country being culled to prevent swine flu. Waste of time, anyone?

 
Posted by saradevil on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:33 AM
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doc merrkin (RIP Wrassidog)

 
whenever I shake somebody's hand, I complete the process by saying "ha ha swine flu for you..."

 
Posted by doc merrkin (RIP Wrassidog) on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 3:13 AM
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saradevil

 
Okay, seriously, I am so stealing that. So stealing that. Starting like now. BTW you are my personal hero, seriously.

 
Posted by saradevil on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:34 AM
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@m@nd@ Twisted

 
lmao

 
Posted by @m@nd@ Twisted on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:17 AM
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™ ♠ Richard Morales ♠ ©
Richard Morales

 
I swear kinds now a days get so sick so easily.  I don't remember ever getting anything like this when I was little.  If anything it was just the common cold you had to watch out for.

 
Posted by ™ ♠ Richard Morales ♠ © on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 10:34 PM
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@m@nd@ Twisted

 
I will move somewhere too poor to enforce mandatory vaccinations if it comes to that here which in a way I think it could.

 
Posted by @m@nd@ Twisted on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 7:17 AM
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saradevil

 
I doubt it. Ford tried that shit in the 70's and it blew up hard in his face. I don't think they will get that stupid again. Honestly though, flu is primarily transmitted by touching your hands to your mouth or eyes after coming into contact with an infection. Best thing you can do to avoid it is wash your hands. I have so no rinse hand wash I use after every class, and then wash my hands when I get home. So far, no flu.

 
Posted by saradevil on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 8:35 AM
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Harshglare

 
it is truly interesting how rights are stomped on for the "common good": in this case the Korean CDC seems to be taking a hard line on the flu...

...and this blog makes a curious case against Universal Health Care.

 
Posted by Harshglare on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 9:29 AM
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saradevil

 
I know we are on opposite sides of the health care thing, which is cool. However, I don't see how this has anything to do with universal health care. Mostly it has to do with media induced mass hysteria. Actual Health care workers in Korea are a little miffed with policies like the ones I mentioned above because in the end they are doing more harm than good for everyone. It's trying to get people to listen when the world media keeps going on about how swine flu is coming to get you that is the problem.

 
Posted by saradevil on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 3:11 AM
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Harshglare

 
Yeah, I think you are cool too....

....what I am getting at is: when government gets involved with something it is not always a good thing because choice and freedom are sacrificed for the "greater good"

....and while having the Korean version of the CDC harass you is mildly irritating,

having the state decide how many children you can have, forced abortions/sterilizations, forced immunizations are realities some people face in todays socialized medicine.

It was not too long ago that retarded people were sterilized, aborted or euthanized.

Should alcohol be banned for the greater good?

Sugary drinks?

Trans-Fat?

Fast cars?

Fast girls?

....I find it funny that we could clone and breed a "better" human but freedom and choice are valued more right now...

...I'm sure there will be a day when Gatega or a Brave New World will be a reality we will all have to deal with when we value the greater good over freedom and choice.

 
Posted by Harshglare on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 10:08 AM
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saradevil

 
Okay, while I appreciate this, some of it is a bit of a leap. Yes, the Korean CDC followed up on me. Yeah that's annoying but the Korean CDC did not come down to test my temperature. They just called and asked if I was healthy. In all I'm impressed that they are actually managing to track everyone who goes through Inchon airport everyday.

As to nanny laws, yeah, I think they are a little ridiculous, however more often than not laws that are aimed at limiting our civil liberties come out of the religious right. Case in point legalized abortions would be illegal if the religious right had their way. And regulating what I can do with my body is just as invasive as keeping me from buying a can of coke.

As for forced abortions, seriously, I have lots of friends who come from countries with social medicine and not one, ever, has heard of a something that ridiculous. I'm sorry, but that is really a bit out there.

As for the state regulating how many children you can have, I'm assuming your referring here to China, which is not a socialist system at all, it's communism at best (and even that not really) it's much closer to military oligarchy with capitalist leanings.

So, yeah. I do appreciate the comments though, I enjoy the extension of the discussion.

 


 
Posted by saradevil on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 12:32 PM
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Big John

 
What a crazy world we live in!
 
Posted by Big John on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 2:26 PM
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saradevil

 
Yep, there are crazies on all parts of it.

 
Posted by saradevil on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 3:11 AM
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Faust

 
Fear can give rise to very irrational behavior... That does suck!
 
Posted by Faust on September 30, 2009 - Wednesday - 4:17 PM
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saradevil

 
Yeah it does. Mostly I continue to try to ignore it.

 
Posted by saradevil on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 3:12 AM
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Abeautiful mess, again

 
Oh shit! Using the same (non sanitary to begin with) tissue after two others shows the utter futility of BS Crap like this.. if there was H1N1 there now many many more poeple would have it along with any other similiarly communicable diseases!!! Sheesh!! for more perspective ( mine and my fathers  mostly. by the way my father is only recemntly retired from Novartis a wolrd leader in FLU vaccines) go read my own latest blog. I'd appreciate your commnets if you have time..

 
Posted by Abeautiful mess, again on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 12:03 AM
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saradevil

 
I keep trying to explain how the ear thing is only going to make it worse, but no one seems interested in listening to me.

 
Posted by saradevil on October 1, 2009 - Thursday - 3:13 AM
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