MySpace

ipreach Never Underestimate the Love of God

Todd



Last Updated: 1/9/2008

Send Message
Instant Message
Email to a Friend
Subscribe

Gender: Male
Status: Married
Age: 40
City: STERLING
State: VIRGINIA
Country: US
Signup Date: 2/2/2006

Who Gives Kudos:


Saturday, March 10, 2007 

Current mood:  cheerful
Category: Religion and Philosophy

Let's continue our attempt to answer the top ten questions asked in relation to the topic of abortion.  We've answered Question #1: "Who's in charge of life and death?" and #2: "When does life begin?"  Today we'll start with Question #3: "Is God concerned with unborn children?"

 

I have a rather lengthy but I believe important answer to this question.  Both Isaiah and Jeremiah reveal that God has an interest in us not just from conception in the womb but also from conception in His Eternal Mind!  We are conceived by God in His own mind from eternity past, eons before we are ever physically conceived in our mother's womb.  In Isaiah 49:1 we read, "Before I was born the Lord called me; form my birth he has made mention of my name."  Then, in Jeremiah 1:5 we read, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before I was born you set me apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations." 

 

God knows us before we are physically conceived.  Some argue here that these quotes from both Isaiah and Jeremiah are nothing more than poetic verse meant only to establish the close relationship that these prophets have with God.  Those who see this as nothing more than poetic verse, say that it is figurative language, not to be taken literally.  Others will say that this kind of relationship with God was only reserved for a select few men of God such as the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah.  To those who charge that it is only poetic language I simply say that an eternal God has no reason to speak of eternity and of knowledge within that realm in a poetic way.  He alone experiences eternity and he alone can speak of it.  Who are we to question what we read and assume upon an eternal Being?  Who are we to say that these verses must be poetic because we cannot understand such language literally?  These types of arguments show a disregard for the potential magnitude of God both in existence, experience, and action.  If God is eternal then such language taken literally is completely reasonable.

 

To those who suggest that these verses describe a relationship with God that only a few great men experienced should rethink such an argument.  God does use some men for greater earthly purpose but he says time and time again that he desires that all should be saved and that none should perish! (2 Peter 3:9)  Further, he tells us that "before the beginning of time" (Titus 1:2) he gave us the hope of "eternal life" (Titus 1:2) through Jesus Christ.  Each of us are made in God's image and are fearfully and wonderfully made! (Psalm 139)  We alone are made in God's image and in this way we are unique in all of God's creation.  Each one of us then was conceived in the mind of God from eternity past and share with Jeremiah and Isaiah the blessing of these words, "before I formed you in the womb, I knew you." (Jeremiah 1:5)

 

So, does God show concern for unborn children?  The answer can be summed up is this way:  God is not only concerned with children in the womb, he is concerned with every child that has been fashioned in His eternal mind, those in the womb as well as those who, at present, exist as Divine Idea.  My contention is that life begins before biological conception.  Or, to put it another way, life began for all of us in the mind of God.  Science cannot debate such a matter of faith and my conclusions may seem too "out of the box" for even the most mature believers.  Scripture, however, bears out my conclusions in spades. 

 

Your thoughts?

 

Carpe Deum! (Seize God!),

Todd Phillips

www.frontline.to

www.toddphillips.net

Previous Post: Abortion Part 3 | Back to Blog List | Next Post: Abortion Part 5
Maria

 
I never thought of us as being alive even before conception. It's something to ponder. It does make sense though.
 
Posted by Maria on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 4:00 PM
[Reply to this
Rob

 
Todd:

Sorry, I know that I've commented enough on all these blogs... but my question would be, What happens to these aborted babies in light of eternity?  Will they all be in heaven?  or will only those who have been elected/predestined be there?

I could also ask, when does the spirit enter the body?

And then... this brings up another question, for parents who think of having invetro fertilization, what about the fertilized eggs stored in freezers?  Technically, they've never been in the womb, but if life begins at conception (or before conception, as you argue) wouldn't there be eternal beings made in God's image in all these freezers?

Asking as this came up in small group a while back...

 
Posted by Rob on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 4:01 PM
[Reply to this
Linette

 

Not sure exactly where this fits in...but in following this blog...and singing tonight the words "From Life's First Cry till Final Breath..Jesus Commands My Destiny"

I immediately thought of this blog.  Our very worship relays life beginning at that cry.  Not sure to say I agree, but found it interesting to say the least.


 
Posted by Linette on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 8:07 PM
[Reply to this
Dorian

 
Well said Todd!  I don't really think it makes a difference at which point we become physically alive on earth.  As you stated, each person is alive to God and He alone holds the authority to take that life away.  People need to take God out of the human box they have put Him in and recognize that He is almighty, all powerful and greater than our tiny brains can fathom.
 
Posted by Dorian on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 3:49 PM
[Reply to this
Previous Post: Abortion Part 3 | Back to Blog List | Next Post: Abortion Part 5