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Evan Davis


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Age: 34
City: Beaverton
State: Oregon
Country: US
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Monday, April 28, 2008 

Category: News and Politics

I've heard a lot of complaints and outright yelling about the state of things in the US. Being a somewhat skeptical person I often question if their claims are so cut and dry. The one most recently to catch my attention is the evility of the Oil companies. While I do know they have had a hand in the inception of this war I do not believe they are actively seeking to support, aggrivate or prolong this war. Another statement people make is that since they are reporting record profits they are also dishonest and wrong. I have a few points to make.

First let me explain the record profits by using my company as an example. Our prices are based on our costs. The euro went up recently against the dollar and we had to rais the price of the items affected. With the same percentage markup we are making more money on these items than we have ever before, however since we do not know what the euro will do next year or even later this month we are not going to compensate for this difference. If at some future date the price seems to be stable and the dollar/euro relationship seems equaly stable then we might compensate by adjusting our markup.

Oil companies do the same thing and since the cost of the raw materials (oil) went up so does the price of its products. Now this profit margin has always worked to cover their costs in the past and changing the markup would take reliable data showing that increasing or lowering the margin would positively affect their market. Reliable data is data that doesn't have inconsistencies in change. That is if the market is unpredictable and your company is stable, then makiing a change in the status quo would be a mistake. Now if the price of oil and the status of the oil supply were to become much more stable then a reevaluation of the profit margin would be considered and acceptable. Since this is not the case the status quo is maintained.

As to their motives. Most of their raw material supplies are linked to politically unstable areas. To continue to do business it would be reasonable to support any group that has an interest in stabilizing these areas. The more powerful the group the more likely they will stabilize these areas. Unfortunately, as with all groups you don't have complete control of you cannot predict the methods they will use. Let's say you support a politician who promises to help improve your community with a campaign contribution. They then tear down an underdeveloped area containing your favorite sandwitch shop and your local church to build a Wal-Mart you as their supporter can hardly be blamed for supporting them.

Another point on motives. Cost of production. Now the costs to refine oil have remained somewhat the same (adjusting for inflation) over the last decade, but we, the gasoline buying public, are not really educated on how this works. So, when regular gas was $1 and premium was $1.20 we bought the cheaper one because it was about 20% less. So now that gas is $4.00 the we buy it because the premium is $4.80...wait, no it's not. Premium gasoline is $4.20. Why? Because the difference between processing oil to regular gasoline and premium gasoline has remained pretty much the same. Now they could have increased the cost of premium gasoliine to $4.80 and none of us would have complained. We would have assumed that if it was $1.00 and $1.20 then increasing to $4.00 would yield $4.80 respecitvely.

How is this important. They're not trying to screw you. In all our anger and paranoia we've blamed this war on the greediness of the oil companies. The orchestration of the war being a very complex thing: get a puppet elected, get the congress to agree, keep the public from seeing all of this, etc. And they seem to have missed this one simple thing to screw us with? I doubt the idea that the oil companies are behind this war, I doubt they are trying to screw us out of our money and I don't doubt that at this price difference I will be buying regular gas anymore.

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Aaron
Aaron Hines

 
You bring up some good points. As for me, I don't necessarily believe that the oil companies themselves are behind the war, but the people who DID start the war have obvious ties to the companies (oil, defense contracts, etc) that DO profit from the war. Cheney and Halliburton, anyone?

As far as the connection between costs and profits, you're right. Most of us don't have a lot of knowledge of the background workings. But my question is this: WHY are oil prices constantly going up, and do the gas companies have a connection to this rise?

It'd be interesting if we could visit an alternate reality where the Iraq War didn't happen, and see what gas prices would be then.
 
Posted by Aaron on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 7:22 PM
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Evan
Evan Davis

 
Gas prices are going up because oil prices are going up. Oil prices are going up for many reasons including the war. There are two big reasons that easily rival or even outweigh the war and those are India and China. China is approaching what could be paralleled as our 1950s. They're moving into the middle class world where people commute, retail stores popping up need trucks to bring in goods and lawn mowers to keep their lawns from getting out of control. India is slowly creeping up on them. The two combined have increased their demand and when the two countries that house half of the human race say they want more oil prices will go up. And so they do.
 
Posted by Evan on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 10:30 PM
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Matthew
Matthew Armstrong

 
You raise some very, very good points. I have long believed that people exxagerated the role that oil companies played in the inception of the war - not that they played no role, but that it likely wasn't the monumental one that many folks make it out to be, and it probably wasn't as monolithic as folks have made it out to be, either (in other words, I doubt everyone in every oil company held the same view).

And as the war has gone on, the role of all companies involved has definitely changed. While I am admitedly not an expert on how the war effects oil companies, it doesn't seem to be helping them. Though, again, I may be wrong.

Also, the value of the dollar has been going down, and this has also played a rise in the rise in fuel prices. Part of it is real rise, based on demand and supply, and part of it is illusory rise, based on the declining value of the dollar relative to other currencies.
 
Posted by Matthew on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 12:27 AM
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Evan
Evan Davis

 
The only role I meant to say they played in the inception of the war was by giving money to the candidates that started it. I doubt they had any idea that an iconic attack would soon follow.

Man, I can't believe I left out the declining dollar. Well, you can't cover everything.

I love the conspiracy theories that go with the cause of the war. Someone attacks the US (as they do every few months or so) with bizarre weapon choices. So bizarre, in fact, that there was no way of knowing that it would be successful or what impact it might have. Hardly indicative of a well thought out government/corporation plan to ruin America. Then the call for blood. I remember it well. People I considered pacifists were saying we need to kick someone's ass. Who though could we attack? Attacking terrorists is hardly a media coverable event (ie. they can't give reports till it's over) and we want blood now. Attack Saudi Arabia. No, we might not be the fondest of each other, but we have an understanding. Attack Iran! No they might have nuclear capabilities. Attack Afghanistan! No, we put their government into power. Um, Korea? Not terrorists and the nuclear problem again. We're not really pissed of at anybody el...wait a minute. Didn't we promise about 10 years ago to remove Hussain from power? And aren't we already pissed off at them? Unless the president wanted to commit political suicide he had to attack somebody (I would have preferred otherwise), but what can you expect? He's a professional politician. Created by a system that supports only professional politicians. Don't blame your ferret if it bites you. It's a wild animal and not a domesticated pet.

I didn't mean for that to be so long.
 
Posted by Evan on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 3:40 PM
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