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Tuesday, April 14, 2009 

Category: Music

China Tour Diaries Part 2..

There was a man selling Tamas Wells pirate cds outside the Majestic Theatre in Shanghai last Saturday night. We were sure that our Beijing bodyguard in black was proficient in several forms of martial arts and the bearded uncle (Nathan) suggested that maybe we send him around to have a ‘chat’ to the salesman. A martial arts sequence like that could have made for a great action film clip but we restrained ourselves and the guy kept selling his cds.

What that incident really highlights is the amazingly rapid changes in the Chinese music scene. Perhaps ten years ago Chinese kids were finding discarded Western cds and cassette tapes that had been sent to china as garbage. They liked what they heard and pretty soon there was a thriving industry in recycled tapes and cds. The opening up of the internet around 5 years ago then sent an army of new Chinese indie kids hunting for music on sites like Myspace – and now China has the largest internet using population of any country (recently passing the US). However, despite this enormous interest in music the majority of the market is still based on pirate copies and illegal downloads.

So most of the people who came to the show last Saturday night at the Majestic Theatre had either legally or illegally heard Valder Fields or another song on the internet, bought a pirate or a legal cd and then decided to come to the show. Inside the venue they could buy a 15 yuan copy of the real cd and outside they could buy a hastily photocopied version for about 8 yuan (let me know if those figures are wrong). I am not saying this with any sense of frustration. Rather I think that this is just an example of how what began as rubbish, became pirate cds and then illegal downloads - but the outcome has been that China now has one of the largest, most diverse and interesting music listening audiences in the world. Eventually piracy of music will decrease as people in China can afford to buy legal copies. In the mean time the growth in chinese music culture should be celebrated.

Unfortunately we didn’t get to meet any of the audience after the Shanghai show – the theatre had some restrictions about that apparently. But the show had been fun (the support act was great)– and theatres certainly have a very different feel to the cage fighting set up which we had at Hangzhou. Theatres are good for atmosphere and quietness but there is also something really immediate about performing in smaller cramped venues like the travellers bar. Theatres somehow seem more clinical.

I woke up the next morning and felt like I needed to go to a clinic. Some bands do 20 date tours continuously and I was starting to fall apart after 4 days ! But we made it to the plane on time and arrived in Beijing to be promptly taken to the restaurant for a lunch of peking duck (which was perfect and vastly different to what is called peking duck in seedy chinese restaurants outside of towns like albury in australia). We checked into the B&Binn, I caught up on a little agricultural history from the ancient kingdom of Yue which was on CCTV 9 (the state run language English channel) and then went across to the national library for the sound check.
Before I had arrived I was wondering a little about the choice of venue- I had not performed in a library before and most librarians I knew preferred to talk more about the dewey decimal system than alternative music. But – it turns out that the national library of china has a really nice auditorium and I don’t think any of the librarians had to attend.


So it was onto that stage that we went. Eight hundred people laughed at the bearded uncle as he missed one obvious note on the keyboard and I forgot the correct words to at least two of the songs. But people were really friendly and excused our mistakes. We got to meet a few people after the show. Cheng who had won one of our internet competitions came backstage but unfortunately got a blood nose when he left. Some other girl ran backstage straight after the show and managed to dodge security and the Beijing bodyguard to try to get a photo with us. I also met song lang a beijing based artist/illustrator who is having a show in Paris next month.

We went out for some great fried pork liver after the show with all of the Pocket records team but then suddenly it was morning and we were back at Beijing airport getting onto the flight to Chengdu.

Those broken tapes and cds that came to china ten years ago as rubbish were called – in chinese- ‘lack of’ or ‘lacking’ as they weren’t usually the complete album or songs. That chinese word sounds very similar to the chinese word for ‘Pocket’...and that is how Pocket records was born. Out of a love for those discarded things that sparked the music revolution in China. And which ultimately led to a chain of events which had us (as two Australians) playing songs to shanghai kids who had largely heard our songs on the internet and a guy standing outside in the cold selling pirate cds for 8 yuan.

Caidy
Darren Lincoln

 
good morning,,Tamas,,,,I just finished rading the part 1,,,then soon came the part 2,,,and from the part 2,i can feel that you've got more know to China since the show at Shanghai...actually what you saw is quite true in China,,hehe,,,I'm sorry for that I listened to ur music illegally on the internet firstly.and so I do to any other planty more artists' music from all over the world...that maybe an excuse for the kids like me in China,,that is there is almost no legal cds of overseas musicians on sale in Chinese cd stores,,,or on the internet,,the cd stores seem just want to sale the cds of the shit domestic pop stars..so kids like me are always hungry for new sounds around the world,,and the internet is the headstream for the musics that we want...I think this is really not a bad thing as you see,,in fact,there are more and more chinese kids pick up the guitars to join a band and make their own music and do what they like to do,,and I'm one of them,,,these kids all benefit from this illegal stuffs(that doesn't mean we like to do things illegally but we just can't find a legal way)..these kids in China are really kind cos they want to change the dreary atmosphere of pop music culture in China,,and these kids have been doing their best and will keep doing...i'm wondering if you have taked a listen to the demos i gived you?? i really appreciate any words from you,,cos you know a kid will really be very excited and grateful for the messages from his idol,,and he is trying to learn a lot and doing his best.....so thanks again for the fantastic shows in China...keep music and dream alive,and keep life wonderfull
 
Posted by Caidy on Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 4:49 AM
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Cynthia
Cynthia Chen

 
since you had just been in china for a few days, you'd already found there're a lot of pirate cds in china music market. i have to say it's really a shame to be that. you know that there is a limit for imported cds in china every year and people tend to buy cheap things. i admit i firstly listened to your songs on internet but then i found they're so ethereal that i really like. i dont know whether the price you said was true, but i bought your cd released by pocket music which cost me 50 yuan that is more expensive:P i came to see your show in chengdu even my hometown is chongqing, i'm looking forward to read your diary about chengdu show, maybe there's a part 3?
 
Posted by Cynthia on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 1:30 AM
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Vinca
Vinca Ai

 
Hi, Tamas. Did you enjoy your tour in China? Maybe you got a lot of culture shocks. Anyway, thank you for coming. I went to your concert in Shanghai. I like your performance. You are very good at interact with the audience, especially in such a big theater. But I just a little bit wonder how can you have such comfortable vioce? I mean you don't talk in the same way as you sing.
(hehe~~)



By the way, I met the seller out of the Majestic Theatre, he charged 100 yuan for 3 albums. I was in a hurry, so I didn't see it carefully. Later, I found there were real cds available by Pocket records inside the theater.




I have to say, the pirate cd is a big problem in China. But I think as for fans, I will buy the original cds for collection even it's expensive. Also for the respect to the singers' effort.




Finally, thank you for sharing your experience and thoughs with us.
Welcome to China next time!




 
Posted by Vinca on Monday, April 20, 2009 - 8:25 AM
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BlackTea
Chen Cheng

 
you know, i am good at taichichuan. i won the 2nd prize in a competetion last summer. so when i see someone selling Tamas Wells pirate cds, i'll have a 'chat' with him. ha-ha...

to be honest, at the very first, i also downloaded your songs from the internet illegally because there was no access to your music for us in china until 2008. but, i swear to god, I bought the legal copies from the pocket music's website as soon as it was available.


so please don't be angry. we are all big fans of you. i think everyone will buy the leagal copies, not only for listening, but also for collecting.

 
 
Posted by BlackTea on Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 4:34 PM
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Tamas Wells

 
thanks for all your posts and just to let you know that I am not at all angry or frustrated by pirate cds or downloading!!!! we got to meet so many of you because of these things - which was brilliant. But I do think that this whole transformation in china is rally interesting ...
 
 
Posted by Tamas Wells on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:19 AM
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Caidy
Darren Lincoln

 
a hah,,,let me tell you a truth,,,,till now a lot of Chinese kids are still very poor
 
 
Posted by Caidy on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 8:40 AM
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BlackTea
Chen Cheng

 
Oh, I understand. Yes. It's an interesting progress. That's how new culture, especially music and film, come into china in the initial stages. We can call it a acculturation? I think this change will keep on happenning. Maybe when you come to China next time, there will be no pirate cds any more.
 
 
Posted by BlackTea on Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 8:10 AM
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Tamas Wells

 
wow and black tea is a ta chi expert ... I would be very afraid if I was selling pirate cds.

 
 
Posted by Tamas Wells on Friday, April 24, 2009 - 10:21 AM
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laura
laura gu

 
looking forward to seeing your performance again! and, say hi to bearded uncle...lol
 
 
Posted by laura on Saturday, April 25, 2009 - 12:44 PM
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Jasmin Syu
Jasmin Syu

 
I have brought all of your three cd!After listening,I gave it to my friends who I though would love your songs.Now I still listen to the music in my mobile phone which copied from the CDs.I don't have another 150 yuan to buy a set of new CDs.That is the truth.A little bit expensive ,right?The ticket for your concert is only 80,just half the price of CDs.
 
Posted by Jasmin Syu on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 4:24 PM
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flowerowl
Xiao Hua

 
Tamas, you have right to complain about all of this as a musician. And actually that is a true reason for many of the great musicians refuse to come to China because they don't really know that if there are many people have ever heard of them based on the poor CD selling or legal downloads in China. One thing you have to know is the censorship there. Sometimes the content of the imported CD will be revised for some sort of political reasons. Specifically speaking, the revision includes deletion of some tracks, rearrangement of the tracks,etc. Besides, it is impossible for the fans to be satisfied with the limit amount of the imported albums every year which push them to buy pirates or to get illegal downloads from the internet. Another thing you should know is the price for Chinese to legally download the records. The major media providers, such as iTunes or Rhapsody,etc, ask for about 1 US dollar per track. If you do the math, each album which contains more than 10 songs will cost Chinese more than 70 Chinese yuan through legal downloads. In Us, a bottle of coke is 1.5 USD and a record cost around 15 USD which means you can buy a CD at the price of 10 times of the coke. In China, a bottle of coke is 3 yuan, however,the legal download through iTunes will cost you more than 70 yuan. What makes even worse is that iTunes store doesn't provide a Chinese version and registeration requires the US credit card. Apparently, we chinese fans are those who got abandoned from this whole music industry. I am not trying to make excuses, what I wanna say is that we are also in such a dilemma.
 
 
Posted by flowerowl on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:16 AM
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Tamas Wells

 
thanks again everyone for your comments
please understand that I am not at all complaining about this
I think maybe you are right that china had been 'abandoned' by the music industry...which is an industry after all ...and its goal is to make money and not to promote music for its own sake!
 
 
Posted by Tamas Wells on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:39 AM
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Vincent
Zhang Jincheng

 
And you know what? There are still many people who download music from the internet rather than spending money on a real record. People will just think: my salary a month is only 1500RMB, and it will cost me 100 for buying an original imported CD.
I love western music a lot, especially folk, indie, pop rock and jazz. I'd love to collect many CDs from my favourite artists and bands to decorate my new room, just that will cost much.

Btw, hopefully you can choose one of the photos I took to put on your official website so that I can get a gift from the pocket record. :)

All the best,
Vincent
 
Posted by Vincent on Friday, May 08, 2009 - 1:45 AM
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Neo Li
Wenchao Li

 
Hi Tamas...Sorry for the late response, I've seen your diaries after the tour and I should say it is really great to say your live show in China. Thanks everyone who make effort on this, we're the lucky fans.

I hope you're well these days and await your next album coming soon.

Say hello to the bearded uncle (Nathan), I do not know he has this nickname : )

Cheers...
Neo


 
Posted by Neo Li on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 1:28 AM
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