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Lisa Eve



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Gender: Female
Status: Single
Age: 40
Sign: Gemini

City: So Cal
Country: US
Signup Date: 2/13/2006

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Monday, December 10, 2007 

First off, when talking or chatting with a male to female TS (transexual), its very important to know (SHE) listens very carefully to the terms and words you use. Even if you knew HER from before SHE transitioned, it is not polite to refer to (HER) in male terms anymore. It hurts us when people do it. Some people knowingly use it to hurt us so we become a bit sensitive to it. Most people just don't know which terms to use. They want to say the right thing but are not sure what to say. Its always SHE or HER and so on with a male to female TS.

Many men that first chat with or talk to a girl like me make the same mistakes over and over. The worst is thinking they can go right into a conversation about what is in my pants or other very personal things. Many times on-line there is not even a hello first. They start with a question about what is in my pants. For most its not because they are trying to be dirty. It's a HUGE turnoff either way on many levels.

I was at a club call the Queen Marry when I first started going out dressed as a woman. A TG ( transgender ) club. A really great club that had been around since the 60's. A guy walked up to me one night and the first thing out of his mouth was a question. He was very good looking and seemed nice. The question was about what was in my pants and he asked it very bluntly. I asked him if he would ask the same sort of a question to a GG ( genetic girl ) that he just met and liked. He answered "No, of course not, I would probably get slapped and she would hate me". I asked then why did you ask me such a personal question right off, even before saying hello? He said, without a pause, "Its because your not a real woman, that makes you fair game" (his exact words "Fair Game" ) He knew I was upset and he walked away. I sat down and cried pondering my newly found place in society.

Another big mistake made over and over is to say what a turn on a TS is. Being reduced to a fetish by a well meaning but horny guy is awful and degrading. Many, if not most, doing this go right into a gay or bi sexual experience from their past or a list of sexual things they wait to do with a TS in the future. Not thinking for a moment that the TS might not want to be hearing any of it. I get very grossed out every time and upset.

We are seen by many, at first, as some sort of ride in some sick amusement park that they have built with their imagination.

One reason its so easy for some men to lie to us is because we are just a fantasy to them. We don't dress for sexual kicks. To a TS its not a fetish. Dressing as a woman is something we do everyday, before work, school or church. Its not fun and games its just life.

If you chat with a TS just think how a GG would react to your questions or comments. I know not all GG's will answer the same way but most men know that some things just don't fly if you want her to chat back with you.

If you have questions, make a connection with the person first. Chat about the weather or something normal in the beginning. Show us the common respects most people expect to be approached with. If you do get to the questions, everyone does, then ask politely. The wording means a lot. The polite way to ask, what is in HER pants, if there is such a thing as a polite way, is "Are you post-op or per-op?" I think its a rude question altogether personally but many TS's don't.

Post-op means you have had the surgery and pre-op means your still waiting to have it. Pre = before, Post = after. There is a Non-op TS as well, someone that for one reason or another, often medical reasons, can't have the surgery or does not want it. Again its "Are you post-op or pre-op?" Not so hard huh?

People are often surprised how easy it is to meet a TS at a club or on line. If you want to have fun in a very friendly club go to a TG club. We tend to be very open and friendly. With so little social acceptance at times, we tend to be far less judgmental about others. I find many TS's to be highly intelligent and can hold their own end of a conversation very nicely. There are a lot of very spiritual and some religious TS's as well. Many are political and well informed.

I guess in the end what I'm trying to say is its all about respect and thinking your actions and questions through first. For some reason respect and sensitivity seems to be the last thing on the mind of those curious about us. We are so far outside of the box that such normal pleasantries are not applied towards us. We on the other hand become quite sensitive to this disconnected thinking.

Just keep in mind that we are people first and transexuals second.

Sincerely

Eve

Here is some terms.

CD : cross dresser.

TG : transgender.

TS : transexual.

GG : genetic girl.

SRS : sexual reassignment surgery.

GRS : gender reassignment surgery (same thing as SRS just more PC to some)

PC : politically correct.

WC : who cares hehe

sandra
sandra eniya

 
Lovely, that is how to treat a Lady guy's
luv Ev
Miss Sandra
 
Posted by sandra on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 5:24 PM
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Cervino

 
Well-said, Eve. A hearty Amen! Guys really do need to learn to respect a tg just like they would a gg.
 
Posted by Cervino on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:50 PM
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Chloe White

 
Quite an informative blog post, Eve. Although...I can't help wondering why you bother to explain politeness to the type of club-going men who have absolutely no sense of sophistication, dignity or interest in respect. Of course I can see that you are a sweet and patient individual but, I wonder if you give certain people too much credit. Anyway, even if one has no knowledge of the correct terminology to use in conversation with a TG, an intelligent, well-bred individual would not ask you "what's in your pants." People who carry on in this way (though it seems men have been the focus thus far) are most likely crude and common in their thinking and probably behave in much the same thoughtless fashion toward others anywhere, regardless of gender.

Be well...peace, C
 
Posted by Chloe White on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 7:27 PM
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Scott
Scott Eckhardt

 
As always your writing has both been interesting and informative. I know I hate some of those very same terms. As with you though no matter what we wear on the outside were all deserve respect and kindness until we chose otherwise. On the fact of human first and TS second I feel that you are what you are and there is no reason that we should not recieve the same respect as other humans no matter our choices. I sometimes have a hard time understanding why people are mean it serves no poupose in my mind. As long as you keep writing I'll keep reading.

thanks,
Scott
 
Posted by Scott on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 6:29 PM
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Wacky Jack

 
a fantastic blog very informitave. thanks for posting
 
Posted by Wacky Jack on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 1:52 PM
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Lazarus Long , L.R.F.
Laz Long

 
Thank you for the advise. Actually, you just put down into words what all people should know as common sense and common courtesy. When in doubt everyone should apply the Golden Rule; do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Lazarus Long
 
Posted by Lazarus Long , L.R.F. on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 2:22 AM
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Edward

 
I must say that your blog is very beautiful and I wish even I had read it years ago. I agree with you that people must accept you for a person first then whatever next. I have a lot of respect for you in being yourself and not what others want you to be. I am looking forward to knowing all I can about you. You sound like a very wonderful lady to know. Yes, I said lady because I know some other GG's that don't begin to have the class that you show and have. I hope that we become friends.
Edward
 
Posted by Edward on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 1:19 PM
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ICEMAN
Ice Man

 
Well, I have been confused for years how to talk to women, It seems like I can always find ways to offend them. LOL JK Very informative thanks sweetie.

Just a dumbass male
Tony
 
Posted by ICEMAN on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 2:42 AM
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"chubangel"

 
Hi Eve,

You don't know me, but I read this beautiful blog and am in total awe. You put into words what one would think is pretty basic. Respecting a person, especially when you really don't know anything about them. Personally I have met some of the most wonderful, intelligent and gentle people on MySpace. How refreshing it has been for me. I celebrated my 40th wedding anniversary recently with the one I love. I am also in recovery, AA, bi-polar and a cancer survivor just to name a few things. :) Humility I believe is the spiritual foundation of a spiritual life. I love life as you can tell. From your words I gained strength today because today is all I have. I look forward to tomorrow if my God so choses. And if there is a tomorrow I would love to have you be part of it as a very special friend. God bless you, you are a beautiful person first and truly an angel making this world we live in all worthwhile.

Chubangel

Ps. One of my daughters we named Eve, and I had sister whose name was Eva, she is no longer with us.
 
Posted by "chubangel" on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 6:39 PM
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Tim
Tim Purdue

 
Any guy who would start off a conversation like this is a total jerk. And he should be slapped. I have met a few TG's and that question never comes up at all. People seem to have forgotten how to be respectful . . . . to everyone and to themselves. You hear a lot "life is short, have fun". Well it's true, life is short, and you should make the most out of everyday of your life, but too many think it gives them a green light to show how rude they really are. And they are the ones who think they're cool. Sorry, being an idiot is not cool.

And the really sad thing is, they just don't get it. They think they are the center of the universe and they have the world at their feet. I, for one, feel bad that his comment reduced you to tears. But you know in your heart that you are very special and deserve all the respect and love that comes your way. And don't let the few turn you away from the rest of us, because there are some guys who are sincerely looking for that special person like you and they are very real. It just takes time to make the connection.
 
Posted by Tim on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 2:47 AM
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Gerry

 
You are so right I would never do such a thing I would not what to be treated different and as far as I see you are the most beautiful woman I have seen and I would be honored to be your friend and would love to been seen with such beauty by my side.
 
Posted by Gerry on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 4:08 AM
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Baylie
Baylie Valsek

 
Oh my goodness that is awesome. I find myself dealing with exactly those same things. There are times when I just want to scream and slap whomever just said whatever offensive thing. There really needs to be a slap button on a keyboard for those insensitive folks who can't manage the least amount of common decency.
 
Posted by Baylie on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 9:10 PM
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SEAN

 
That makes alot of sence.Thanks for the info.I hope all is good with you.Take care.
 
Posted by SEAN on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 9:11 PM
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shelly
shelly wadhams

 
Well guys who reduce us to subjects of their sick fetish, just watch to many I hate to use the word but, SHEMALE porn and think we are all like that! These so called SHEMALES are on a reduced amount of hormones and have subjected themselves to some surgery, namely boob jobs. I got so pissed off with being thought of as a fetish object that I sent a guy to read about SRS and told him that full strength hormones chemically castrate you and he quickly left. I have found here that 95% of people (I live just around the corner from a bikie pub and have walked past them and they said nothing, they probably are mored worried about what their partner would say) are not worried about you, but I have come accross some simpleminded souls
 
Posted by shelly on Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 4:35 AM
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the one and only TS kittykat

 
omg you hit it right on the head . have been asked those same questions so many times . and one guy just asked last night . it made me want to scream and throw my comp on his head . but insted i gave him a peace of my mind and then blocked him. hugs Katrina Lynn
 
Posted by the one and only TS kittykat on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:39 PM
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Drac

 
Very informative..
 
Posted by Drac on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 8:36 PM
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dominique

 
Fabulous post. One does grow weary of being looked upon as a freakish fetishist fancy. You've spoken so eloquently. Would love to hear your comments on ostracism by the lesbian community, especially the older lesbian community.


Namaste,
Dominique
 
Posted by dominique on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 10:14 AM
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Lana
Marie Rayburn

 
Well said Eve.

 
Posted by Lana on Sunday, September 07, 2008 - 5:56 AM
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Roger
Roger Henry

 
Hello Lisa. Let me first indicate that I was already pleased to find you amongst my friends list but am now even more impressed with your obvious sincerity and realism about who you are. I can not imagine a real man behaving as you describe though I do acknowledge that such characters obviously exist. In my world, sometimes a little naive and oblivious to some things, I can not imagine any two people, gender and orientation not withstanding, having such an encounter with any degree of belief that they might be successful in finding what they seek. The conduct you describe screams that the other person has no respect for themself and necessarily then, could not possibly respect you. If a person looks beyond the obvious and accepts the introduction by another as the person they are within, proper address and gender-based addresses should never be an issue. Though our familiarity, at best, is very limited and exists only through this website as of date, I accept you as Lisa Eve, the attractive, bright and obviously desirable woman that you introduce and promote yourself to be. I do not see any difficulty in addressing you as this person and can not imagine how I might become confused with how to address you or refer to you. The dissapointments and offenses that you experience in your life relative to this topic are indeed unfortunate and I empathize with you. On behalf of the adult male population, I apologize for the socially unskilled members of our group. Please try not to repeat their mistakes and judge us unfairly based upon their conduct. I applaud your effort to educate people on this topic and promote an improved environment. I find it a mature and responsible approach that promotes your concerns, announces your sincerity, confirms your intelligence and lends me the ability to extend to you my acceptance of you as Lisa Eve, a girl with real issues that deserve and demand address. Just please know that I care that you should be treated as fairly as any other....what you have described fails miserably to meet that burden.
Roger
 
Posted by Roger on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 1:50 PM
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Just Look N 2b Friends
Troy M

 
This is probably the most helpful and informative advice Ive ever heard given on the subject. Well said and very clear. Merry Christmas.

 
Posted by Just Look N 2b Friends on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 10:28 AM
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Michael Seeks a Transsexual Woman

 
Yep, you're right. I learned that lesson early on when, in my then-complete ignorance, I innocently asked a TS who men were to treat such women. She basically boxed my ears back and screamed, "You treat her like you would any other woman!" Ah! The light finally went on. Since that revelatory moment, I have made sure to treat any TS exactly the same way I would any genetic female. Later on, I created a site about TS women and relationships with men called TSGirlfriend. com. All the best to you for the future.

 
Posted by Michael Seeks a Transsexual Woman on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 7:30 PM
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Archangel

 
I know you don't know me at all, but this is a very nice blog.  Well done and well stated!

 
Posted by Archangel on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:59 PM
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