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Age: 103
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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 

This rant has been coming for a long time. If you have any kind of a problem with my speaking about wicca in a negaitve light, then please do not read this.

The truth about Wicca

 

If you click on the back button and scroll to the bottom of my main page, you can clearly see the word "wiccan" as my religion. Now i know what you are thinking already.. some part of you just knows i'm going to slam the hell out of wicca, and if i'm going to do that why the hell would i call myself a wiccan? First let me say that i'm not going to "slam" anything. I do however want to point out some truths that have been danced over for years by modern wiccans. It is not my intent at all to upset anyone, but more so to state what i know as facts and let you make your own choices.

As for my calling myself a wiccan, well thats pretty easy to explain. In our society the word Witchcraft is almost always followed shortly by the word wicca. In the end my craft was what i wanted to express to others, not my faith... as you will soon see these two things are very different.

Authors such as Starhawk choose to call the wiccan faith by the name "WitchCraft". Buckland also does this, and freely intermixes the history of the Faith with that of ancient European Paganism. Some authors even go so far as to claim that what wiccans do today are the exact same practices followed by the Ancients. You might be told that Wicca is older than Christianity, or that it even finds it's roots as far back as 25,000 BCE! And all of these are incorrect.

Such claims that Wicca is so all-encompassing has both helped and harmed wiccans. One the one hand, it gave the trail-blazers of the Faith a ground to stand upon. It would be silly to think that Gerald Gardner (the creator of Wicca) could have ever popularized his system if he had claimed authorship himself. Almost every piece of Spiritual/Magickal literature in history that has had any real influence has done so through sketchy claims: The Keys of Solomon, the Zohar, the Five Books of Moses (the Torah), the New Testament, the Koran, The Thelemic Book of the Law, etc, etc. Some of these examples claim Divine Inspiration or Authorship (such as the Book of the Law); which has more of a spiritual validity than do those which claim authorship by famous figures (such as the Keys) or claim antiquity that they do not possess (such as Wicca). Often, people are interested in ancient words of Wisdom and Power, but will ignore contemporary material.

There were, indeed, a group of people in ancient Britain known as "Wicce" (pronounced Wee-cha). The existance of these people is the largest bit of ammo used by those who perpetuate the myth that Wicca has origins that predate Christianity. However, once the facts are brought to light, we will see how this "evidence" does not stand up at all.

Britain possessed the same kinds of Paganism as most of the rest of the world. And, like so many others, that Paganism was nearly destroyed forever by the crushing blow of the Church. The practices of the older Faiths receeded from the populated cities into the country side- guarded by the older people and passed down in fragmented bits and pieces. The Pagan Priesthoods were gone, a great number of the Celtic Gods found shelter in the new religion as Saints, but the practical knowledge gained over thousands of years held fast. These country people were midwives, healers, seers, soothsayers, diviners, etc.

The point which must be stressed here is that these people did not call themselves "Wicce". It has been claimed that the ancient Celtic Priesthood itself was known by that name; though I have yet to see a single piece of evidence to support this. Instead, it was the Christian city-folk who applied the name to the wise-men and -women who gave fortunes and folk medicines. The word "Wicce" itself translates directly as "wise one". Once the inquisitions began, a slang form of the word was created: "Witch".

The above is an identical story to what occured throughout the known world at the rise of the Church. You may recognize the term "wise one" in other languages as "Wizard" or "Magus". It is common knowledge that "Wizardry" is not a Faith at all, but a practice. Quite silly, then, to assume that "Wicce" was a Faith. In fact, if it were so, why would it have been labled so plainly as a Craft? Have you ever heard of "ChristCraft"? What we know as WitchCraft is simply a practice of Folk Magick. Then why is it that the words witchcraft and wicca seem to walk hand in hand?

The true roots of Wicca are to be found as recently as the early 1920's, with an author by the name of Margaret Murray and her book entitled "The Witch Cult in Western Europe". Ms. Murray believed that societly had once been matriarchal (run by women), and that Europe primordially possessed a single unified Faith which she termed "The Old Religion". The main focus of her work was to prove that the practitioners of this Old Religion had been driven into hiding by the Church, and "Covens" were thus formed so the ancient Rites could be practiced in hidden places.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/wcwe/index.htm

Ms. Murray's main source of information in this regard were none other than the documents obtained by convicted "witches" by the Church itself!.... Remember that these confessions and descriptions were written by the Inquisitors themselves, and the accused were tortured into signing them. Regardless of this glaring fact, Murray felt that an idea of how real covens had operated could be gleaned from these reports if the "bias" of the Church was ignored. In her defense, there were other aspects of Ms. Murray's work that were on the right track. However, most of her facts have been refuted by those who continued her work. To this date, there has yet to be one single shred of convincing evidence that covens ever existed in the times of the Inquisitions.

Suddenly, groups began to "surface" all over Europe- entire covens of witches who claimed to practice the Old Religion. People who claimed to be from unbroken lines of initiation from the alleged "original Covens". Of course, none of them have (then or now) proved their claims. If Murray was incorrect in her theories, then the Covens who are exactly as she described can hardly be authentic themselves.

However, arise these Covens did; and ,despite their false claims, they eventually developed into something of their own. They mainly refered to themselves simply as the Old Religion. They were VERY secretive about themselves, based on alleged Coven Laws that were supposedly created at the time of the Inquisistion for safety reasons. The Neo-Pagan Movement was un-officially underway, if it did remain somewhat underground.


Now it is time to focus on one of these Covens specifically; or, as it is, a small group of related Covens known as the New Forest. They were structured according to Murray, and were following a psudeo-reconstructoin of ancient Celtic Shamanic Religion, with European WitchCraft as part of daily life and practice. Obviously they claimed a direct connection to the Wicce of ancient Britain.

Beyond this, the different groups had thier own particular focuses. One of them delved into a practice which had arisen in the early 1900s known as "Lonecraft"- a philosophy of natural living based largely on Amer-Indian concepts. Incidently, Lonecraft itself is the father of what we know today as the Boy Scouts!

http://www.sossi.org/lonescout/lshistory.htm

Another group- the High Preistess of which was the famous Dorothy Clutterbuck- focused somewhat more on the pracitces of Ceremonial Magick- adapting a version of the Qabalah as set forth by Israel Regardie in his book "The Golden Dawn". According to "Drawing Down the Moon" by Margot Adler, this book was owned by nearly every serious occultist of the day; a claim which can also be made for today!

Here enters the man known as Gerald Gardner, who became an Initiate of Dorothy Clutterbuck's New Forest Coven. Mr. Gardner was certainly no stranger to the Occult; also being a Masonic Lodge member, and member of the OTO (an organization run by Crowley); not to mention the various other systems he was familiar with (such as many Eastern, African, Middle Eastern, and even Judeo-Christian Traditions). He was, after all, an anthropologist.

He began by combining the many systems he was familiar with into a coherent whole: basically taking the models of Ceremonial Magick, assigning corrispondances from Celtic Paganism to them, and using them in the Murray/New Forest Religious structure. Just as everyone else did, he claimed that his creation was the very same "Organized Religion" spoken of by Murray finally come out of hiding... He decided to call it "Wicca" (Wik-ah) after the Healers described above. Gardner went public in the late 1940's, much to the agony of the many groups that quite enjoyed their secrecy and mystery.

So what does all of this mean you ask?

1. The word wicca was first used by Gerald Gardner

2. He baised his using the word wicca on Margaret Murray's book which was obtained via witch trials, which in turn described a witch as the ancient wicce. A book that claimed that modern covens were a hidden extension of the old wicce religion.

3. Being a wicce was not a faith at all, it was in fact a word used to describe people who did things, not a word to describe people who worshiped things.

 

Wow... I must admit that I feel better. I would challange anyone that would disagree with what I have written, to do so with facts, not assumptions. Just because wicca is not as old as most would claim does not mean that it is any less valid. Like i said before, people seem so much more interested in things that are ancient, and the modern is over looked. However calling yourself a witch means that you practice a craft, not worship a set of gods... there is just no way around it. In the end this is why i used the word wiccan in my profile, me being someone who uses the said craft would give me rights to the word wicce, from which wicca baised its name.



 

Excellent blog . You have managed to condense my years of reading all these books into one coherant article .

 


 
Posted by on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 12:46 PM
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The Rain King

 
I can think of few things that bug me more than the bastardization of the craft due to a generation of "blessed bes" influenced by Charmed, The Craft, and all the misinformation thats floating around which was pointed out so eloquently by Jacob.  Hopefully having a Luminary like Jacob take the time to post and clear up some widely held misconceptions that plague modern day students will be viewed under a slightly more discerning light, making things better for everyone in my opinion.  At one point I used to spend more time around those who would classify themselves as " Wiccan" and many of the aforementioned misconceptions were direct reasons as to why I initially absented myself from felicity.  Anyhow, before I go off on a tangent thank you Jacob, lights in dark places never go outta style.

 
Posted by The Rain King on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 7:21 PM
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Magnum D A
Darrel Avery

 
Dude you said a mouthful and though I don't practice myself  I totally get your drift.
 
Posted by Magnum D A on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:22 AM
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Matthew

 
Well I learned something new today! 
 
Posted by Matthew on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 2:47 PM
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Ken
Ken Summers

 
Finally... someone with something intelligent and educated to say about the matter. I don't feel you were cruel or wrong in any respect. Too many people toss around words, beliefs, and their own "supernatural powers" in an egotistical and ignorant manner. They're the real ones who give any of us in the "New Age"/Occult category a bad name. Education is the true route to enlightenment and understanding...
 
Posted by Ken on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 5:30 AM
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Brother Odd
Johnny Price

 
I am a Wiccan and a Witch. I do not refute your claims thats Wiccs is a modern invention, because I don't feel this does anything to hurt the validity of Wicca as a faith. But, I do feel it is a relgion, and not just a simple system of folk magick. It's a religion in the fact that it's follower belive in a god and goddess. In actuallity, it's thought that all gods are THE GOD, and all goddesses are THE GODDESS. It is also a religion in the fact that it practitioners have a belief in an afterlife, namely the Summerland, where you would rest between incarnations. I  do not however expect everyone to accept my veiws, and am not looking for debate. I just thought it would be nice to have the veiw of an actual Wiccan in a blog about them. But, I do think the blog was well writen and that most Wiccans would do well to note it's modern conception.
 
Posted by Brother Odd on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 6:45 PM
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J

 

Thanks for the reply John,

 

  As you know I once a avid follower of modern wicca, and I'm thankful for your post.  I have great respect for the religion, and those who follow it.  I know you are not looking for a debate, but i thought i might clear a few things up.  Wicca is a big topic, and i did what i could to make what i wrote as small as possible.  My intentions were to explain the orgin of the word, not the faith structure behind it.

  The idea of all gods are the god, and all goddesses are the goddess is very old, and its roots did not come from wicca.  This does not take away from wicca at all, if anything it shows that wicca is a melting pot for a pure belief system.  The same goes for the afterlife and the summerland, both of which are rooted in other belief systems, and were not a part of wicca or witchcraft until modern times.  but then again so what?  Who cares where the faith came from if its a good one.

  I see wicca as a horrible word to describe a beautiful religion.  A word that is rooted in folk magick, and was born by the torture of the Inquisitions.  Without margret murrays book that was baised on the witch trials, would people like gardner have come around and used the word wicca to describe something that was so clearly made up?   It would be like the jews spawning a new belief structure baised on their statements given to the nazis at the time of the holocost, then saying that belief structure was the reason they were tortured... 

 If people were killed in those times because they were pagan, it had nothing to do with wicca.  If they praticed witchcraft, it was a craft, not a faith structure.  Most who were killed had nothing to do with either.  In a way it was those statements given to the church that gave life to the word wicca via gardner.  Pointless torture spawned written lies, which in turn made others stand up and pretend they were a part of something that was just not true.  thus the word wicca was born, not the faith they used to create it. 

I'm sorry that i used your reply as a way of clearing some things up.  Again, i know you were not looking for a debate, but you brought up some things that felt i needed to comment on.  I have been to one of your rituals, and felt that it was one of the best i have ever been to.  I think you are a very knowledgeable wiccan, and a skilled witch.  Thanks again for the reply.


 
Posted by J on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 11:00 PM
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Brother Odd
Johnny Price

 
You mat be right!!! Wicca may be a horible word for a beautiful religion. I don't know when the words Wicca and witchcraft became intermidible but this has become the status quo. I think pagans reclaiming the words witch and wicca as our own is akin to the African Americans trying to reclaim the word nigger and make it a positive. Although I don't want to get into a bebate I do rather enjoy a heated disscussion espeacially with someone intellegent. thank you Jacob
 
Posted by Brother Odd on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 2:17 AM
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Yoshimus Prime

 
Organized religion need it be christianity, judism, wiccan, the jedi councle,or church of scientology to me is all for the weak minded and weak of heart. Why would one need to congregate with a group of "followers" to do their thing? If you are strong at mind, body and spirit one does not need to congregate in large assemblies or any assemblies that talk about their religion and all the wonders of their beliefs and how there god can beat your god up. Bottom line is God is God it does not matter which religion you follow or what your Gods name is. Bottom line he is the same being that is just presenting himself or herself in a form that a particular person or group can better relate to. All you need is to believe. It doesnt matter how you act out your beliefs need it be candle magic, kneeling and praying, speaking in tongues, kissing snakes, drinking kool aid, buring incense and worshiping some fat culture icon statue. People need to start thinking for themselves. Do things for themselves. Stop following a group or a leader to where they want to go. Because if you follow a group or a leader to where they want to go ,, then thats just it your going to go where they are going,, not where you want to go. Dont listen to what people say if they have a different belief or goal,, thats their own opinion. Follow what your heart, mind and soul tell you. Because if you do that you will reach your goal and no one elses. find your path. your own personalized path and if it has a sign somewhere that says beware of the gay what ever you do dont bend over to read the final sign when it is too late. Dont get me wrong i have mutuall respect for all religions,, that includes the wiccan religion,, i make jokes but thats only because its not on my path. I make jokes at all religions because i find the overly devout followers amusing. So what do you say Jacob want to go hug some trees? Next time you see me you can smack me up the back of my head for the joke,,, just not too hard k? by the way that was a nice inciteful blog on the wiccan religion,, did you mention Crowley? I didnt notice,, i started to fade off in yoshi land somewhere around the midevil times,, lol,, we need to get some java sometime bitch. and talk philosophy or just catch up on old times.
 
Posted by Yoshimus Prime on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 7:00 AM
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