Well said!
 

You know it's funny, I work at the Black Horse. And f***ing hell, Rehab are actually working towards making it better. BUT people just don't seem to mix anymore.


You know Costers used to be my home, it's unfortunate i don't get down there very often anymore.
But does anyone remember when we all used to say hi to each other? and were all on the same level?!?

For the people that work at Black Horse, Costers and Scruffies, yes we do pretty much know everyone. But that doesnt stop you talking to other people, or atleast respecting them for themselves. Rather than a big pissing contest, do i think i'm more important than anyone else? not at all, i know people because i make an effort to say hi. Or hell speak to a mates mate....

We had a gig the other day, and people were just beating the crap out of each other trying to prove a point. Whats the point?! My message to people that don't appreciate what we used to have.
GROW UP, please, help us all ut, you don't have to be loyal to one pub, we all know there are other pubs where other people might be!

Fair play to you man for speaking out where the rest of us have neglected to of late.

 

i agree!
down costers people say get that emo crap off but dnt realise people dont wanna listen to head banging stuff all the time.
people say you shut at 8 so we are going home or this place used to be packed but it isnt now so we arent drinking down here anymore!! stop maoning and stay out late and support these places! we close early becus u dont drink anymore!
 

Well said man !!
 

WELL FUCKING SAID!!

The problem you've got here is the only ones reading this are the ones who share the ethos...the staff of the pubs (and lil ppl like me) who ARE trying to pull it all together. The ones you need to hit it out at are the lazy b*stards who sit at home, on their arses, bemoaning the lack of Brum's scene..Brummies have always been notoriously lazy at moving from in front of their TV's...and they ENJOY commiserating at their "dead" pubs, they feel they WERE part of something and "it ain't the same anymore"........I HATE this coz in a way they're right, it ain't the same.


But you know why it ain't the same? Coz its BETTER now than its ever been and I feel I'm AM in a position to judge and compare - having the last 20 odd years of "scene" behind me, but people moaning are mostly older ones who don't like change, or who are too scared to go out and mix with a few "scene yoofs" - and these yoofs are who we need to encourage to keep the scene alive..."Adapt and Grow, Stagnate and Die!"

I personally get bored sitting in a pub with a bunch of old farts moaning about how good it used to be - open your eyes you miserable gits >:-)

We currently have some of the best pubs that we've EVER had, but people like to stay in and watch..oooh what's the latest crap ... x-factor? (I dunno I do Brum Scene, not TV) but our clubs suck.....the Academy? wooo, mass-produced, over-priced crap...the Newt? Dying on its feet coz there are too few "supporters" (yes I do feel guilty for being too busy to go anymore >:-(()

I dunno how to do more to change things, short of physically kicking ppl up the ass, but it all needs to get out to people somehow....I vote, huge billboards, erected in the middle of the night with ALL the pubs listing their gigs/events/nights, on ONE billboard..demonstrate unity >:-)

Oh and thanks for the kind words about Rehab, you've no idea how much they mean to me - even an idea needs support.


/lecture over

Donna >:-)
 

unfortunately i have to agree with Donna, except with one important difference. instead of bilboards, giant tattoos on everyone......except then stupid whiny people would complain the it wasn't origianal enough.............oh s**t ye........there goes that idea of well conformity? or unity for the sene right..........my bad!!
 

I know its a bit late but just came across this!

Couldnt agree more with whats already been said.

There are lots of rock places now to be honest. It does seem tough to get people out to gigs, but my mind set is "No one is gonna come to you, you gotta go to them" and thats the only way.


Me and the guitarist from our band have long discussed that clubs should unite in the same area's. It just makes complete sense, if your both promoting a metal night on the same night, your gonna split the people. Whereas if you work together and share diff nights etc everyone's a winner!! the bands and the venues will get more people in for the specified night.


Great to hear that someone still gives a shit!
If we lived in B'ham we'd be down there all the time, but we're from wolves so we usually end up in the giff or planet, but we'll be down costers this saturday =]

Keep it goin!!