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Status: Single
City: Hollywood
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 3/9/2006
Tuesday, July 08, 2008 
Hello Friends,
I recently read an amusing tale about an incident that supposedly took place stage side during one of our shows. The author of this highly exaggerated tale is André Cholmondeley. He would like you to believe he was physically attacked. More on that later...

Perhaps it is his dream come true that I would take a moment of my time to write a few sentences that publicly address him. It's a one shot deal - You're welcome.

Here you go...

Dateline - Los Angeles California:

The following are actual private e-mails between me and Adrian Belew. (I apologize to Adrian in advance if this causes him any aggravation.)

I would not normally be inclined to use private information in this way but it perfectly illustrates the details of the "non event" that follows.

Dweezil Zappa writes to Adrian Belew - (e-mail addresses have been removed.)

On June 20, 2008, at 1:42 am, dweezil wrote:
Hello Adrian,
I hope this e-mail finds you doing well. I have noticed that you will be playing before us at 2 upcoming shows. I would like to extend an invitation to you to sit in with us if you like during our set. We are playing "Tiny Lites" and "Flakes" either of those 2 songs could make for a good surprise cameo.

Please let me know if you would be interested.

Regards, DZ

On June 30, 2008 12:04 pm, Adrian wrote:

dweezil,
please excuse my late reply.
I've always had a secret desire to show up for a concert with no guitar and no cases full of gear, just a harmonica in my back pocket.

so...
my idea of a cool cameo would be to come out in the middle of flakes harmonica in hand, sing the sad bob dylan part, and exit stage right, hopefully to applause.
what do you think?

cheers,
adrian

ps: I greatly admire and respect what you are doing for your father's legacy.
no one deserves it more than he and I've heard you do it exceptionally well.

After this first electronic exchange I was informed that Adrian was employing André Cholmondeley as his guitar tech. André's propensity for spreading misinformation and negativity has earned him a reputation. A reputation for being obnoxious and creating conflicts.

Since those personality traits hold no appeal for me I decided to write back to Adrian with a request.

On June 30, 2008, at 11:43 pm, dweezil wrote:

Hello Adrian,
Nice to hear from you. Your idea sounds fun and easy.
I think people will appreciate it. They may even decide to clap a little bit... It happens sometimes.

We usually play Flakes midway through the show. I can say, "Take it away Bob or Adrian" whichever you prefer and you can enter to Ray's microphone.

Just let us know day of show if you're up for it and we'll do it.

On a different topic - perhaps an awkward one - I have been informed that you are working with Andre from Project Object. He is likely your friend as well as your employee so you may not enjoy what is to follow.

Whether you are aware of it or not he has instigated a lot of unpleasant things on our website forum and has made many transgressions musical and otherwise regarding Frank over the years. It would be my preference that he politely remove himself from my view before, during and after our set. For me
the phrase persona non grata is applicable in this case.

I can understand if you feel awkward relaying this and I can even understand if you choose not to accept my invitation to join us on stage as a result.

The fact of the matter is he knows what he has done and it should come as no surprise that I wouldn't appreciate him being anywhere near me now or in the future.

I apologize for having to bring this to your attention.

I thank both of you for your consideration and cooperation on this matter in advance.

Regards, DZ

A politely worded simple request. Here's Adrian's response.

On July 1, 2008, at 9:05 am, Adrian wrote:

dweezil,
please introduce me any way you like.
what key is flakes?
I'll bring the appropriate harmonica.

it's true andre works for me now.
I will make certain he is persona non grata as best I can.

as I told gail, I try always to honor frank, his memory, and his music. he remains a towering inspiration to me. I loved him too, and I could never repay him for what he did for me.

I take responsibility for my own actions, never for the actions of others.
I've have heard bits of the rhetoric surrounding project object (after the fact) but remain apart from it all.
should you or your family have any problem with anything I might ever do, please let me know.

see you onstage.
cheers,
adrian

That was July 1st. Whether or not Adrian decided to convey my request to Andre I do not know for sure. But it is safe to assume by his e-mail that he had every intention of doing so.

It is also clear by his e-mail that he is aware of the existing circumstances that could warrant such a request.

Dateline - Ottawa July 5th:

Showtime for Zappa Plays Zappa. Dave Tobias is mixing our in ear monitor mix and is dealing with a keyboard that has lost phantom power. Andre saunters up and tries to make himself at home in Dave's work area. Why would he attempt to do this? Surely he has been told that it would be polite to stay away by his friend and employer Adrian Belew. One must ask, "Why not go enjoy the show from the audience or anywhere else... just be polite and respect a simple request?" Besides, who willingly wants to be in a place where they know they are not welcome?

Dave stops Andre and relays the message that he is not supposed to be there. No touching, pushing or spitting occurred. Loud talking happened, that's it. There was a concert going on and Dave had in ear monitors in his ears. At no point was anyone instructed to be rude to Andre in fact just the opposite is true. Andre even mentioned in his own blog about how nice everyone was earlier in the day. He even mentioned Dave Tobias. Everyone believed that Andre knew about the request and was willing to co-operate and watch the show from a different vantage point later on.

Apparently Adrian must not have made it clear to him that he was not welcome in the stage area. Or maybe he did and Andre decided to ignore the request? In any case, Dave Tobias was a little surprised to see Andre in his work area given all of the back story. He most likely assumed Andre was informed of the request to politely be elsewhere and that he was just trying to be obnoxious again - which is why I originally requested he politely remove himself in the first place.

That's end of the story. Probable miscommunication from Employer to employee. End result stupid drama.

The show the next night had no incident whatsoever. Andre still temerariously snuck himself to the side of the stage though. It's just his way. He can't help himself.

Contrary to his report where claims he locked eyes with me at some point during the show, I'm here to tell you that it never took place. He'd know if I locked eyes with him. "What an imagination"

Here's a paragraph dedicated solely to Andre. To me, if you really have respect for my Father and his music you have an asinine way of showing it. By repeatedly insulting Frank's family and ignoring copyright laws related to his music you have proven the exact opposite of respect. Your obsequious fawning over "alumni" and your precious associations you have with them are embarrassingly shallow. Your attempts to draw attention to yourself as some sort of soldier fighting the good fight for Frank's music reveal what you really are - a depressing epigone starving for recognition.

One last thing, for me to care at all about what you say or do would mean that I have some sort of respect for you or your opinion.
Sadly, I have neither.

End of 15 minutes...

Regards, DZ

Eddie Curnan

 
Good for you Dweezil! I found out about project/object through youtube and added them because they looked a lot cooler than they really are. I had no idea that that dude was such a douche and when I read his big drama post it was all I could do not to wet my pants laughing. The fact that he really thinks that Frank would take his side over you and your mother is a obvious sign of complete idiocy. I guess it is true, matter is not the most plentiful thing in the universe, its stupidity. I will go to see ZPZ every chance I get, you have nailed it and I am grateful that YOU are keeping Frank's music alive.

Eddie
 
Posted by Eddie Curnan on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 7:09 PM
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This really IS stalkerish behavior. It's like Andre is obsessed. I think any psychologist would have a field day with Andre's post.

It surprises me that those who rush to Andre's defense and take part in this sideshow by posting his message any place they can, fail to see the truly distasteful transparency of what Andre's message and its intent really is. Furthermore, their blind faith that his breathless and melodramatic account is the factual gospel truth, is also pretty stunning.

He clearly incited this incident, and his disingenuous posturing belies his real intent - which is to get as much attention for himself and his cause as possible by inserting himself into a place where he clearly knew he was not wanted, thus causing trouble, and then subsequently grossly distorting his account of the events. It's a really pathetic cry for attention, and a sad attempt to somehow weave himself into the fabric of the Zappa oeuvre, just like he has pathetically done with ex-Zappa alumni. Even his band name "project/object" insinuates that he is some kind of continuation of FZ's legacy, and that's sick-making.

Then we have his mock outrage and hurt feelings, where we are all meant to buy into his account and how shocked he was by it - and how he's still "shaking like a leaf". Then he insinuates (rather laughably) that he might have a ZFT hit on him and tells people that if something bad were to happen to him, it could just be because of some plot to snuff him out. Yeah right. What a bunch of bullshit.

Take some fucking responsibility for your actions for once Andre, you douche.

Do people really take this paranoia seriously? Do seemingly intelligent people really buy into the bullshit of this stinky and very unpleasant individual?

I wonder how long people will buy this shit before they realize just how pathetic Andre and his entire cause is.

He's clearly a failed musician - he needs to make a living teching for other guitarists rather than being on stage himself. He has been unable to sustain a career on his own merits and instead has to leech off FZ's legacy, and try to actually make people believe he has a right to do so - moreso that FZ's own family. His entire presence is entirely negative. Shame on him for even trying to insinuate himself anywhere near the name Zappa. He certainly hasn't brought anything of value to FZ, his music, or his legacy. Only bitterness and wrong notes.

He fails to realize the undeniable truth: If Frank actually knew Andre, he'd despise him.

It's blatantly obvious that in this case, Andre did not need to be anywhere in the vicinity of the backstage area during the ZPZ show, yet he insisted on hanging around like a bad small (literally... the guy needs some deodorant..)

Andre, get a fucking life you pathetic sad little man. And while you're at it, get a fucking career too. Go and try to create something of your own instead of slithering your way into the lives of ex-Zappa alumni, and into backstage areas where you clearly know that you are unwelcome.

- Seraph
 
Posted by on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 9:51 PM
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NoName

 
Thank you for sharing.

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It can happen here
I'm telling you my dear
that it can't happen here.
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YES IT CAN!

Ha ha ha ha
:)

everyone has stupid dramas in life,
it is only human to be stupid or something like that.

now I'm gonna go bang on the bass.
Thanks for sharing.
 
Posted by NoName on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:07 PM
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Sinisterfoot

 
"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King



Seems like its being blown way out of proportion to me...a guy gets yelled at for being somewhere he shouldn't be, and all of this is deemed necessary?

It also seems as if Dweezil had said it best...missed communication - bottom line, end of story....to go on further just promotes the non issue - hopefully there are no future run ins...

"If you don't have anything nice to say about a person, then don't say it at all"

Mom
 
Posted by Sinisterfoot on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:37 PM
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Sixxy LOVES Doomy

 
Everyone has the right to vent, even celebs.
Kudos to you, Dweezil, for saying all of this in a very intelligent manner and not throwing a hissy fit.
We love you!!!
 
Posted by Sixxy LOVES Doomy on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 5:47 PM
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Garage Band Gretchen

 
Ahhh there is one in every work place, neighborhood, meeting place ect.

No escaping these critters, they are everywere!!!!!!!!


Yes, I say that drama is part of life!
What you do with those who thrive on drama (who like to be the focus of attention are lacking something within them self's) is give them a dumb look every time they show up, they dont know what to do.

Kudos to you DZ!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Garage Band Gretchen on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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Steve Olivares
Steve Olivares

 
Hey Dweezil, that sucks that you have to deal with an asshole like this guy. I've had the pleasure of meeting you twice and your one of the coolest rock stars to meet, or just one of the coolest people in general. For you not to like someone in that fasion does say something.
 
Posted by Steve Olivares on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 6:47 AM
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Renaissance Man©

 
You, your Mom, Joe, and the band just keep doing what you're doing.
Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff.
The world is full of idiots and assholes.
We learn to avoid them.
You're doing great.

Thanks for everything!
-ed.
 
Posted by Renaissance Man© on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 8:34 AM
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Blotter T. Scum of DRUGSUCKER

 
Dweezil,
I got to meet you in San Diego, and You were soo mellow and well spoken (What little you said) that I can't imagine having a personal problem with you. This person is clearly just a shock jock, and seeking the 15 minutes you gave him. The most powerful thing you can do, is just keep doing what you're doing. I've seen you in ZPZ 4 times, and it just keeps getting better...and there are no vacant seats...which means other people must like what you're doing as well.
You're awesome Dweezil...keep it up.
Kevin
 
Posted by Blotter T. Scum of DRUGSUCKER on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 5:01 PM
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Fippy

 
Yep, there's a douche bag for every crowd. If you had made eye contact, I suspect you would have burned holes through him with your retinas. :)
 
Posted by Fippy on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 12:11 AM
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mimbles daughter

 
respect, D. Love what you're doing, keep doing it.
 
Posted by mimbles daughter on Friday, July 11, 2008 - 11:06 AM
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? mark

 
I know nothing of the troubles between your family and Andre, i'm kinda glad I don't. I've seen Project Object a couple of times and even got to talk to Ike quite a bit after both shows which was pretty cool, otherwise the shows were entertaining and when one is jonesin' for some live Zappa music it's a real treat. I managed to catch your Zappa plays Zappa show in Cincinnati last July and my kids STILL talk about it ! (As do I) They never understood dad's insane desire to hear this music since he was 4 and all their lives of course until that night. You even were kind enough to come out and meet fans after the show, I was very happy to meet you and convey my appreciation for the show you did (fricken' awesome) as were my kids and I proudly display the picture you took with us on my photos page. It's just sad that in the realms of those who reproduce Frank's music that anyone could find the time for drama...if I was so lucky to be playing out doing Zappa tunes I think i'd be too busy perfecting my part I'd find more meaningful things to do in my "off" time.

If I can be so bold to beg....PLEASE come back to Cincinnati ! We loved you down at the Moonlight Gardens ! You're such an amazing guitar player and the band you've put together is so tight, I know i'm speaking for at least a couple thousand people...plz come back ; )
 
Posted by ? mark on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:08 AM
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? mark

 
I know nothing of the troubles between your family and Andre, i'm kinda glad I don't. I've seen Project Object a couple of times and even got to talk to Ike quite a bit after both shows which was pretty cool, otherwise the shows were entertaining and when one is jonesin' for some live Zappa music it's a real treat. I managed to catch your Zappa plays Zappa show in Cincinnati last July and my kids STILL talk about it ! (As do I) They never understood dad's insane desire to hear this music since he was 4 and all their lives of course until that night. You even were kind enough to come out and meet fans after the show, I was very happy to meet you and convey my appreciation for the show you did (fricken' awesome) as were my kids and I proudly display the picture you took with us on my photos page. It's just sad that in the realms of those who reproduce Frank's music that anyone could find the time for drama...if I was so lucky to be playing out doing Zappa tunes I think i'd be too busy perfecting my part I'd find more meaningful things to do in my "off" time.

If I can be so bold to beg....PLEASE come back to Cincinnati ! We loved you down at the Moonlight Gardens ! You're such an amazing guitar player and the band you've put together is so tight, I know i'm speaking for at least a couple thousand people...plz come back ; )
 
Posted by ? mark on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:09 AM
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? mark

 
I know nothing of the troubles between your family and Andre, i'm kinda glad I don't. I've seen Project Object a couple of times and even got to talk to Ike quite a bit after both shows which was pretty cool, otherwise the shows were entertaining and when one is jonesin' for some live Zappa music it's a real treat. I managed to catch your Zappa plays Zappa show in Cincinnati last July and my kids STILL talk about it ! (As do I) They never understood dad's insane desire to hear this music since he was 4 and all their lives of course until that night. You even were kind enough to come out and meet fans after the show, I was very happy to meet you and convey my appreciation for the show you did (fricken' awesome) as were my kids and I proudly display the picture you took with us on my photos page. It's just sad that in the realms of those who reproduce Frank's music that anyone could find the time for drama...if I was so lucky to be playing out doing Zappa tunes I think i'd be too busy perfecting my part I'd find more meaningful things to do in my "off" time.

If I can be so bold to beg....PLEASE come back to Cincinnati ! We loved you down at the Moonlight Gardens ! You're such an amazing guitar player and the band you've put together is so tight, I know i'm speaking for at least a couple thousand people...plz come back ; )
 
Posted by ? mark on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:10 AM
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? mark

 
I know nothing of the troubles between your family and Andre, i'm kinda glad I don't. I've seen Project Object a couple of times and even got to talk to Ike quite a bit after both shows which was pretty cool, otherwise the shows were entertaining and when one is jonesin' for some live Zappa music it's a real treat. I managed to catch your Zappa plays Zappa show in Cincinnati last July and my kids STILL talk about it ! (As do I) They never understood dad's insane desire to hear this music since he was 4 and all their lives of course until that night. You even were kind enough to come out and meet fans after the show, I was very happy to meet you and convey my appreciation for the show you did (fricken' awesome) as were my kids and I proudly display the picture you took with us on my photos page. It's just sad that in the realms of those who reproduce Frank's music that anyone could find the time for drama...if I was so lucky to be playing out doing Zappa tunes I think i'd be too busy perfecting my part I'd find more meaningful things to do in my "off" time.

If I can be so bold to beg....PLEASE come back to Cincinnati ! We loved you down at the Moonlight Gardens ! You're such an amazing guitar player and the band you've put together is so tight, I know i'm speaking for at least a couple thousand people...plz come back ; )
 
Posted by ? mark on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:11 AM
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? mark

 
sorry, f*n myspace! grr!
 
Posted by ? mark on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 12:29 AM
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Maria Diletta
Maria Diletta Schiller

 
That's rude...what an idiot! Doubt he's resting easy --

....maybe you should have sent the same message 3 times...I hear that helps!!
 
Posted by Maria Diletta on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:40 PM
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Justin Pardy / Dog Shaft Records

 
You're great Dweezil.I hate stupid people......GREAT f'n show in Hampton,N.H.I love how you are keeping Frank's music alive & live. Justin Pardy/DogShaftRecords,Auburn,Maine.
 
Posted by Justin Pardy / Dog Shaft Records on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 11:36 PM
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Fab Five Freddie

 
What a sociopathic dick. Knowing Adrian Belew, I'm sure he abided by the agreement fully and mentioned something, but the little jerkoff toadie promptly ignored it.

Sheesh ... hey, come back to Cincinnati, won't cha?
 
Posted by Fab Five Freddie on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 1:28 AM
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Trina
Trina Simpson

 
Dweezil, sorry your having to deal with this petty senseless stuff from Andre. Hopefully, he'll just 'go away.' Your doing an excellent job with your Frank's music. I've seen 4 ZPZ shows and they just keep getting better. I've never seen one Project/Object show and don't ever intend to.
Best wishes,
Trina
 
Posted by Trina on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 1:47 AM
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The Hagenator!

 
Hmmm Seems that your dad was always right in my books as he once said and I quote " The Worlds Most Plentiful Ingredient is Stupity."

All I have to say is the show at the Ottawa Bluesfest was the best of all the entertainment I took in for the 11 days of good bands, Blues or whatever those kids call that Rap crap!!! At Bluesfest... I really hope you will come back to perform again and if you would like a nice beautiful place that is great for acoustics and a crowd of about 800 well Barrymores Music Hall is a place to play and I could hook you up with that.
I was also really glad to finally give you that photo in person from the stage at the end of your show.The photo I took at the PMRC hearings way back in 87 and again thankyou for signing my copy.

Please say hello to the rest of your family and hopefully we can talk in the near future about some projects that I would like to work on with you but I will write you more on that later, hopefully you also checked out the music video I did for the Victoria British Columbia Band called AfterDark with their song Tango with Technology on youtube.
Talk to you later dweezil Have great fun in Europe.
Later,
Tom Hay
 
Posted by The Hagenator! on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 4:38 PM
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Hiram Glyphics

 
There were some mistakes made on your part in this drama Dweez. First, more time has been spent going after small-time bands with lawyer threats, who are NOT getting rich honoring your Father's music note for note than the whole MGM scandal in the 70's. You and Mom did NOT write Frank Zappa's music. Second, why even let Andre' get to you before you "go to work". Third, this blog-response seems a little too defensive, after all, ZFT legal dogs were unleashed first. Fourth, give it up! It's your FATHER's music and you were fortunate enough to have some of the BEST musicians around you since you were born. Show some humility to those who have been fans of your Father's music longer than you.
The Andre' thing is teen drama. The Gail/Dweezil scrutinizer team is the REAL threat to Frank's musical legacy. Focus on some of your own tunes Dweez! Honor your Father by doing something original.
 
Posted by Hiram Glyphics on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 4:44 PM
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Sensei Pete

 
There is one big mistake made by Dangeridoo Hua Xing. Siding with the epigone over the rightful heir to the throne. Andre is the one who should concentrate on his own music instead of bastardizing something beautiful. Besides, Andre lies. He is much bigger than the monitor guy who made him 'shake like a leaf on a tree' for the following 24 hours. The deciding factor on who should play Frank's music should be TALENT. Watch Project Object...watch ZPZ...there is no doubt who should retire their act, it's Andre.
 
Posted by Sensei Pete on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 9:14 PM
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Chris Hausoul

 
I was lucky enough to see a ZPZ show on Fathers day in Chicago, as well as his second tour,and there is no doubt in my mind that Dweezil has earned his place as the true keeper of Franks legacy. Frank would not allow others to profit from his copywritten material, so it seems to me ZFT has every right to do so as well. Your age doesn't give you any right to criticize Dweezil.

Oh and btw, good luck trying to find a cover band (Porject object or other)playing g spot tornado anyway
 
Posted by Chris Hausoul on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 11:09 PM
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Leuconeura
Rebecca Podniesinski

 
DZ,

We cannot control the actions of others, but We can control our OWN actions and reactions to others.
To remain diplomatic in dealing with undiplomatic people is the better path, and most not the easiest.
You were raised well. Good for you for standing up in a way that keeps you at the level you wish to be.

Becky-Lou
 
Posted by Leuconeura on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 8:02 PM
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James
James Sharp

 
I have heard of the conflict. Since I wasn't there to witness it I remain neutral on the subject. I can just say I've heard both ZPZ and PO and enjoy them both. The first group that performs in Memphis, I will side with.
 
Posted by James on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:58 PM
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Trace Elements

 
Good for you, Dweezil. The fact that you didn't just have this guy immediately removed by security shows your tolerant nature, and good manners. I think I would have had to toss the dude.
You are a great inspiration to many people, in both your original music, and your fitting tribute to Frank. I saw you in Dallas and thought it was a fabulous show.
Cheers to you, keep up the solid work. TR
 
Posted by Trace Elements on Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 5:10 PM
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{Tobone}
tony browne

 
Dweezil,

I wonder what your father would think about all this "who shot John" crap.
Maybe Andre is a little butt hurt that P/O isn't the novelty that it once was. He is a tool for going into Dave's area and probably deserved to be reamed.
Maybe you, your mom and the ZFT are a little too militant in your methods. I wonder if you, or even your dad for that matter, have paid for every bit of "borrowed" music needed to remain "legal".
I find it very hard to imagine that P/O, or any of the other dozens of Zappa cover bands make enough money touring that it cuts into you meal ticket to the degree that it warrants the time it takes to compose a threatening letter. I must say that, although you are well spoken, you come off as a bit of a Southern California twat!
I'm not judgin - I'm just sayin'.
Being a Zappa/MOI fan for 30 years, I will support as many bands covering Zappa as I have time for. It's always been about THE MUSIC!

Thank you for your time.
Thank you for playing Frank's music.

{Tobone}
 
Posted by {Tobone} on Monday, December 08, 2008 - 5:34 AM
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