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July 9, 2008 - Wednesday 

Category: News and Politics

(thanks, Michele!)

(bold & underlined are links to source)

50 McCain Flip-Flops
Category: News and Politics

The Long List of McCain Flip-Flops


* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he's against it.

* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits.

Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

* McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

* McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.

)

Wait, I'm not done with the last two weeks yet….

* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.

* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.

"

* McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.

And these come after these other reversals from April and May:

* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity.

He used to believe the opposite.

* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S.

should engage in diplomacy with Hamas.

Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain believed the U.S.

should engage in diplomacy with Syria.

Now he believes the opposite.

* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.

* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley.

Now he doesn't.

* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.

And these are the flip-flops I've noticed earlier:

* McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a "'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded.

Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes.
"

* McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.

* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs.

Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S.

military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

* McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly.

" His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term.

Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.

* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.

* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors.

In 2007, after receiving "feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

* McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily.

" Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."

* McCain said he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished.

" In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course.

" In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.
"

* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v.Wade to saying the exact opposite.

* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.

* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy.

" By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly.

In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name.

In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr. before he supported it.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol.

Now he's pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the 'Straight Talk Express.

'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

More Flip-Flops --

(perhaps some duplicates- there's too many to try to compare!)

* McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he's against it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

* McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/18/mccains-offsho...

* McCain thought Bush's warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15781.htm...

* McCain defended "privatizing" Social Security. Now he says he's against privatization (though he actually still supports it.)
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15863.htm...

* McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn't.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/10/mccain-flips-o...

* McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15825.htm...

* He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion,he called it "one of the worst decisions in the history of this country."
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15864.htm...

* McCain said he would "not impose a litmus test on any nominee." He used to promise the opposite.
http://www.americablog.com/2008/06/now-mccain-is-flip-f...

* McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration's warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

* McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/may/28/mccains-abo... /

* McCain supported moving "towards normalization of relations" with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15617.htm...

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15557.htm...

* McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15564.htm...

* He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party's policy making. Now he believes the opposite.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15573.htm...

* McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn't.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/20/mccains-97-lob...

* He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn't.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15633.htm...

* McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn't.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15699.htm...

*McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a"'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded.Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes."
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14761.htm...

* McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/mccain-...

* McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14818.htm...

*In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15033.htm...

* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15337.htm...

* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15370.htm...

* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15358.htm...

* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/19/mccain-economy-bloo... /

* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark /

* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/21/hagee-flip-flop /

*McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting"irresponsibly."His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15176.htm...

* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/us/politics/16mccain....

* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/10/emtimeem-has-m...

* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /

* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/31/mccain-... /

* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14447.htm...

*In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving"feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9658.html

* McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...

*McCain said he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as"a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course."In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/18/mccain-greatest-cri... /

* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003 to saying the exact opposite.http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /

* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/02/mcc...

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6988.html

* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6731.html

* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/03/us/politics/03mccain....

*In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=1880630&page=1

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.
http://www.nysun.com/national/campaign-finance-effort-r... /

* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20070115/pl_usnw/dnc__mcca...

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8313.html

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887 /

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200610310003

* McCain decided in2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and acorrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/12/19/mccain-kissinger /

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won't back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8066.html

* And now he's both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/19/mccain-abortion /

(source of this list here)

Troy

 
Looks Like CFR Obama will only change America to a gentler Fascists Government than Bush or McCain.

McCain didn't vote, but he would have voted yes (like obama) because every republican in the Senate voted yes.







Thanks: Warrior, Dreamer, Shaman...~John B.~
Date: Jul 10, 2008 2:19 PM


Can't say I didn't warn you Democrats were sellouts too though, you now have the two candidates that the media has selected for you... anyone voting is only wasting their day.









Thanks to...
SENTIENT
Dave



The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 passed

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Shame on Obama !

and these people who have all broken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States:
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL) (voted yes, after promising he wouldn't)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)

We all need to target each and every yes voter and see to it that they are not re-elected to any government position.












 
Posted by Troy on July 10, 2008 - Thursday - 9:31 PM
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Sherry

 
I know people, even some of his own people, are mad at Obama for his decision to vote this way, but believe me -- he's waaaaay superior to McCain and will be 1,000 times a better president. They're not even in the same league!
Personally I have given him some allowance on this because there were also several Democrats who also voted for it and it appears that reasonable minds differ (Including Webb who is revered as such a great patriot person.) I'm not a lawyer or an expert on the Constitution and I haven't read or claim to understand the whole bill. So, I've opted to stay out of the frey of discussing this or get into debates over it.
I've heard that part of Obama's consideration was some legal reason that later it would be able to deal with this in a criminal way rather than a civil way, which if it went to a class action, it would only be a few dollars per customer anyway. But I grant you, I don't know. I just don't believe at all that he has anything sinister in his decision and if I'm going to trust him to be president, I'll certainly trust him to make a decision on a controversial issue like this. He's the lawyer, and he's the expert on the Constitution. If he was just after votes, he would have stayed with his base and not alienated so many people with this. So, I believe he voted in good conscious. I'm not taking away from those who saw it different, though, either. I see both sides.

As much as Feingold fought it, here is what he said about Obama's vote. So, I'm not the only one who is opting to not throw him under the proverbial bus over this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlSizbDdH0 (part about Obama is at counter 4:28)

And here is Obama's statement about it if you haven't read it.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/rospars/gGxsZF

By the way -- as you point out McCain didn't even vote, and for that matter, neither did Ron Paul. Seems like with it being so important, they would have made an effort to at least vote.
 
Posted by Sherry on July 11, 2008 - Friday - 12:19 AM
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Ron Paul Foot Soldier

 
I see what you're saying.
I don't really want to debate about it either.

But Do you think maybe, since he has such a large following, that he (and his controllers) knew that if he voted yes, then all those people would start to make excuses for him, and how "it's ok" to violate the 4th amendment?

Just because someone says they know the consitutuion, does it mean they really do? and they will automatically obey it?

I just wish the Obama people would see the tree by the fruit it bears.

I know Paul wasn't there, I wish he could have been, he put this in the congressional record:

20 June 2008

Madam Speaker, I regret that due to the unexpected last-minute appearance of this measure on the legislative calendar this week, a prior commitment has prevented me from voting on the FISA amendments. I have strongly opposed every previous FISA overhaul attempt and I certainly would have voted against this one as well.

The main reason I oppose this latest version is that it still clearly violates the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution by allowing the federal government to engage in the bulk collection of American citizens’ communications without a search warrant. That US citizens can have their private communication intercepted by the government without a search warrant is anti-American, deeply disturbing, and completely unacceptable.

In addition to gutting the fourth amendment, this measure will deprive Americans who have had their rights violated by telecommunication companies involved in the Administration’s illegal wiretapping program the right to seek redress in the courts for the wrongs committed against them. Worse, this measure provides for retroactive immunity, whereby individuals or organizations that broke the law as it existed are granted immunity for prior illegal actions once the law has been changed. Ex post facto laws have long been considered anathema in free societies under rule of law. Our Founding Fathers recognized this, including in Article I section 9 of the Constitution that “No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.” How is this FISA bill not a variation of ex post facto? That alone should give pause to supporters of this measure.

Mr. Speaker, we should understand that decimating the protections that our Constitution provides us against the government is far more dangerous to the future of this country than whatever external threats may exist. We can protect this country without violating the Constitution and I urge my colleagues to reconsider their support for this measure.

Rep. Ron Paul, M.D.
 
Posted by Ron Paul Foot Soldier on July 11, 2008 - Friday - 1:05 AM
[Reply to this
Ron Paul Foot Soldier

 
Sorry Sherry,
I posted it too many times.

This is Troy, just under my other profile.
Sorry is this confuses you.
 
Posted by Ron Paul Foot Soldier on July 11, 2008 - Friday - 1:09 AM
[Reply to this
Sherry

 
ha ha -- yes, I was confused, "Is this one of my friends?" So, I went to see and couldn't find you. lol Thanks for cluing me in. :) -- and I deleted the dup. no problem.

I'm sure Ron Paul would have voted against it. I have no doubt. But it's unfortunate that he didn't. But if Obama had not voted, then it would have been a coward's way out, or something. Seems he never gets the benefit fo the doubt unless it's from his own supporters.
He is schooled on the Constitution -- considered a Constitutional scholar -- was a Constitutional professor or senior lecturer, whichever term you care to use. The smears try to make something of the two terms.
I think he said in his original statement about this FISA that by the changes that were made eliminated the unconstitutional parts (not about the immunity, he was never and is still not in favor of that. He wanted that taken out) -- but the rest he felt like was protection for the citizens and at the same time gave the govn tools they needed to protect the country from terrorists dangers. Probably not an exact quote, but that's what I got out of it. Like I said, I REALLY don't believe he's trying to undermine the constitution or has any dark motives. He's said plenty of times that he will rectify the unconstitutional portons that Bush has been operating under. And I choose to believe his intentions. All we have to go on is what they say and how they vote. And he explained his vote and it's not inconcistent.
So far, he has been consistent on everything, though they try to spin it to where he's flipped on some things when in fact, he hasn't. So, I have seen no reason to not trust him so far. He has got my attention with the pandering to Israel, (I think I've already told you that, and he's talking like "they" might have got to him about what a big danger Iran is. But he has to do this stuff if he wants to get elected. He's said too many times he wants to try diplomacy first, second, third and fourth.
I guess the only things so far that I've gotten P.O.'d with him about is I wish he would have been more supportive and protective to defend Gen Clark about his statement about McCain and I think he flatters Hillary and Bill too much, and he gives McCain too much credit. But I guess he sort of has to or he'd come across as the "angry black man" and he can't afford to get that reputation. He's walking a tightrope, and I think he's doing pretty doggone good, considering. But I do have to kind of grimmace when he passes out the praises sometimes! :)
 
Posted by Sherry on July 11, 2008 - Friday - 1:54 AM
[Reply to this
EMPRESS

 
Well, I don't like ANY of my rights being taken away or undermined in any way. This FISA thing has got me wondering about a lot of things. Although, I do believe I heard or read somewhere that Obama voted yes because there was a large portion of the bill he was in favor of in order to protect the U.S. and the rest of it he was not in favor of, which was illegal wiretapping and the immunity portion. He simply did not want to throw the other parts away and feels that, as President, he can make changes to the bill once he is in office. And criminal charges are NOT off the table. And once criminal charges are filed, then civil charges can be filed inspite of the immunity.

It's certainly a tough one to figure out and this is when politics gets a bit over my head and most people. Who has the time to study every nuance? THAT is what politicians do and that is why it is their job. It is OUR job to elect those we feel are intelligent, fair-minded, experienced, and authentic to run this country on our behalf. It has been a very long time since I felt we have had that in a candidate. Obama is going to take some hits as will McCain, it's just the way of it. It has always happened and it always will -- politics. AND he may even make some mistakes. But is he intelligent? yes Fair-minded, yes. Experienced, yes (against those who say he is not, I believe he is), and authentic? Most of all, YES. It is refreshing and about time.

And further ... we can't afford to pick apart every little thing that Obama does (besides the media will do that for us). This is the GENERAL election now and we need to make sure that a democrat gets in office. Instead of talking about what Obama has done or hasn't done, we need to continue to pick apart McCain and talk about that. Screw it ... it's Obama vs. McCain, period. We will get one or the other. And the one we want is Obama!
 
Posted by EMPRESS on July 12, 2008 - Saturday - 3:03 AM
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