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City: Manchester UK
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Country: UK
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Sunday, October 25, 2009 
Everyone is going on about the BNP being on Question Time. I watched it, and the amount of stupid hypocrisy surrounding it has left me totally dumfounded.
Interesting to see that the homophobia of the Conservative representative, Sayeeda Warsi, was quickly brushed aside on Question Time. If we hate the BNP so much because we care about protecting minority groups from abuse, where was Sayeeda Warsi's public execution?  Or was it okay because she blatently lied about her support for civil partnerships? I mean, how uncomfortable did she look when asked about her support for past homophobic laws? Griffin didn't get away with lying about his views, so why was she allowed to mumble some bullshit about Civil Partnerships being "a right" when she is consistently against them and every other LGBT human rights law that Labour has pushed through? Sure Griffin has disgusting views, but then so are her views on homosexuality. Why when homosexuality came up did only Griffin get shit for it when she is just as fucking bad?

I was also very disappointed by Question Time taking on Islam as a matter of minority rights. Griffin is a vile, racist bastard. We are allowed to say that, and we are right in doing so. But Islamic ideology is equally bigoted if we're talking about LGBT and womens rights, and deserves to be questioned in the same mannor as BNP policies. That's not prejudice my dear friends, it's well reseached fact. But because those ideas stem from religion, and are not strictly political ideas like the BNP's, no criticism is allowed.

BNP are racist. That's a massive fucking problem. But at the same time, when someone put their hand up and asked "what's wrong with Islam?" I felt like, fuck, how long have you got?! The fact that your Bible promotes the stoning to death of LGBT people and women and that those horrors are actually practised in alot of Muslim countries? Am I the only person who sees the irony in people defending Islamic ideology as a left-wing position? Since when were race and religion as one anyway? It seems you can't be anti-religious fascism without being on a pig like Griffins side and somehow being racist against Asian people. Bullshit!! I want the right to slam the BNP's policies, and I also want the right to slam Islamic policies too because I find both equally disgusting. I can be against Islam and not against Asians in the same way that I am against Christianity without hating white people. Just because the BNP ties in racism with being anti-Islam, it doesn't mean that I have to. I despise racism, I abhore it. But I am also a feminist and believe in LGBT rights too, and I won't turn a blind eye and put Islamic ideas in the same basket as other left-wing, human rights causes.

I liked that Griffin got a bollocking. But I thought it was lame that no-one dared question Sayeeda Warsi or Islamic homophobia too. We live in very sad, blinded, choose-your-corner times and I'm almost tempted to be all Daily Mail and say "It's political correctness gone mad!". But not that tempted.
Will and Rick

 
So many things are wrong about how the BNP are being treated. The Unite Against Fascism calling for a ban on his appearance? No one said freedom of speech was easy, but it has to exist. Seems we have to unite against unite against fascism to me.

Baroness Sayeeda was is seriously homophobic.

"Lady Warsi has also provoked anger amongst gay-rights and anti-fascist campaigners, when she went on record saying that people who back the British National Party ("BNP"), criticised for its racist and homophobic agenda, may even have a point. "They have some very legitimate views."

Nice.

Griffin was singled out on Question Time, hell, it wasn't even the usual format for the show. If any good has come of it, then the re politicisation of people is happening. Apathy has ruled too long. Groups like the the English Defence League are taking crap for standing up against Muslimism, despite saying they are not racist, but against extreme views by this religious right they are being hounded again by the anti fascist league.

Seems like politics is reshaping itself. It's interesting what's happening....

Some good points raised there McCabe!

XXX


 
Posted by Will and Rick on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:35 PM
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Ste McCabe

 
I read that about her too - that she said the BNP have some "legitimate points" - however, obviously being chosen to represent Camerons false image of a new more liberal conservative party on the programme, she would have been sacked on the spot for agreeing with anything Griffin said. But I agree, people are talking about politics again, I just wonder at what cost. I don't agree with censorship but still wonder if it was responsible to give them such a platform and then worse to publicly harrass him - it's media frenzy that has given them so much support to begin with. If the greens were given all that free publicity (good or bad) I'm sure it would help them too, but we're all too busy focussing on the negative far-right stuff for a good news story. On QT, Griffin looked to many like a victim, and no doubt the BNP's support will increase.
xxx

 
Posted by Ste McCabe on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 4:36 PM
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Fairy Princess Helên

 
I find the association between religion and ethnicity really skewed. Griffin was banging on about some 'indigenous' population of Britain that he claims have lived here since the ice age 17000 years ago, then he associates his party with Christianity, a religion that's only 2000 years old and was imported to this country by missionaries from the east. What were the 'indigenous British' worshipping for the 15000 years prior to the arrival of Christianity?
He was on Sky news not so long ago complaining that liberals want to ban Christmas and that his party, aswell as fighting for the introduction of a St George's day holiday, want to preserve 'British' Christmas traditions such as the putting up of a Xmas tree. But hang on, weren't Christmas trees introduced to this country by Prince Albert, Queen Victoria's German husband, and doesn't the tradition of bringing evergreen plants into the home at the time of the winter solstice hark back to Europe's pagan past?
Sorry, I've strayed off the point of your blog, but nothing that Griffin says stands up to any kind of scrutiny.
I was saying to Putrid yesterday that the problem with politics now is that all views have to fall either to the left or to the right, so if you're a 'leftie', you're not racist and as such you can't possibly criticise Islam. I've decided that my personal view is that I will tolerate those who tolerate me and my lifestyle, so that rules out the Islamists and the devout Catholics. I don't know what I'm ravelling on about now so will bugger off!



 
Posted by Fairy Princess Helên on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 2:07 PM
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Ste McCabe

 
Thanks Helen. "I will tolerate those who tolerate me" is exactly the code I live by too. Anyone who is intolerant of huge groups in society who do them no harm have no right complaining about people being intolerant of them, and the same goes for the many silly racist LGBT's out there.

Don't apologise - it's all relevant and really interesting (particularly the bit about the xmas tree history - I didn't know that).

x x x x x

 
Posted by Ste McCabe on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 4:41 PM
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mary cigarettes

 
the torys and whoever else are using the ugliest one of all as a measuring stick, in order to make themselves seem more beautiful.....it's the oldest trick in the book.


 
Posted by mary cigarettes on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 4:59 PM
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Ste McCabe

 
...and people are falling for it. Big sigh x

 
Posted by Ste McCabe on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 5:07 PM
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Fairy Princess Helên

 
Yep. If you stink it's always a good idea to find someone who stinks even more than you do and blame the stench on them.

 
Posted by Fairy Princess Helên on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 6:38 PM
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Ste McCabe

 
Thanks Seedhill. Agreed, well obviously, on everything! x x x x x

 
Posted by Ste McCabe on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 9:08 AM
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James ’Bar’ Bowen

 
Good points, Ste. All forms of bigotry stink, whether justified by religion, race or whatever. But be wary, Will and Rick, of seeing anything liberated or liberating about the English Defence League: they have clear links to right-wing and BNP nutters (despite what their website claims) and they are simply out to cause trouble and to divide people.
 
Posted by James ’Bar’ Bowen on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:22 PM
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Will and Rick

 
Hey James, I am aware that the EDL have financial backing from Alan Lake of the BNP and despite their claims to be a one issue party with a single intent on focusing against Muslim extremism, they indeed have historically unexceptable racist views. I suppose I didn't make myself clear enough really. What is annoying me is that UAF are actively supporting this group from demonstrating. Already marches have been banned. When you start taking away freedom of speech, you make martyrs. I suppose it's the irony that an anti fascist group is leading us into a situation where laws can be used to say who has freedom of speech and who doesn't.

I may not like what any of these bigots say, on both sides, but when this actively starts taking away my fundamental rights to say what I believe in, then they have to be questioned, it's in our best interest.

Many people believe that people shouldn't have that right. that saying racist, homophobic or sexist things should be illegal. I don't believe that. I like these idiots to feel free to say what they want so we can see them for what they are. Griffin's appearance on Question Time did him no favours. He looked and sounded complete moron., but was good was that you had that Muslim Baroness taking the high ground, and as Ste pointed out in his blog, she was brushed aside. Very interesting for me, here you had somebody very much a real danger, totally intergrated into the British law making process and political system saying she now supports civil partnerships when previously she had gone on record as having the same views as the BNP, something she once backed up with an active homophobic campaign where she leafleted absurd things about LGBT in hope to tap into the same mentality the BNP and EDL do for political gain and support.

Politics is becoming interesting because of these right wingers! I'm glad, it's felt far to apolitical for too long in this country. And if the start of somebody' political journey is being a boring old fascist then fine. Let them test their beliefs in the world, let them be questioned and  let them see how far them beliefs will get them.

 
Posted by Will and Rick on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:44 AM
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Ste McCabe

 
Cheers James - I'm yet to find an anti-religious fundamentalism group that doesn't have a hand in some dodgy other organisations, which keeps the whole thing alot more complicated and frustrating. Hope you're well matey x

 
Posted by Ste McCabe on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 9:46 AM
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