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Wednesday, October 21, 2009 

Current mood:  confused
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as part of an advanced english course i'm taking, i have to write a series of research papers dealing with a specific topic, so i decided to use this as an opportunity/excuse to explore my interest in the relationship between future technologies and post-deconstructionist thought. from time to time i'll be periodically updating this blog post with published assignments, research notes, correspondences, loose quotes, scattered thoughts, etc..


poignant Terence McKenna wisdom:

"Obviously if we're experiencing more change now in a year than we previously experienced in a thousand years, we can propagate that trend into the future and see that a day will come when we will experience more change in an hour than we have experienced in the past 20-30 thousand years.  A situation like that is unimaginable.  So we call it a singularity: a place where the normal rules of modeling break down.  Modern religions have anticipated the singularity by calling it the eschaton or the end of time.  Technological communities have anticipated the singularity by thinking in terms of artificial intelligences or something like that.  In whatever form it takes, we seem to be on the cusp of a dramatic evolutionary leap into a deeper order of complexity than biology or biology plus culture has been able to provide.  We're on the brink of something truly awesome and unknown.  Are we going to retain the monkey meat, are we going to hang onto the body and through the body have a connection to the rest animal nature?  Or are we going to become disembodied streams of electrons moving in virtual realities that are contained entirely in circuitry?  I think this will probably go both ways.  There will be fundamentalists who want nothing to do with technological transformation, and there will be utopians who won't be able to get enough of it.  This is probably the moral frontier where we each personally must make a stand.  How much of the new technology and its reality-redefining qualities do we want to take in to our own lives?"


"That's the curious thing about the folks at the Stanford conference. Some were from the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies, an offshoot of the World Transhumanist Association, which advocates the transformation of our species through drugs, "genetic engineering, information technology ... nanotechnology, machine intelligence, uploading, and space colonization." [...] These are weird people with weird ideas. But sometimes it takes a weirdo to see what's odd about what the rest of us call normal. [...] Maybe the cockeyed thinking of transhumanists is what allows them to see the illogic of the way we dope kids with caffeine while banning other stimulants. Maybe that's why they find it odd that we denounce steroids as cheating but ignore athletes who get Lasik or muscle-enhancing surgery. Maybe that's why they look back at the doubling of human life expectancy in the last century and wonder why we shouldn't try to double it again. To our hunter-gatherer ancestors, they figure, we already look posthuman. Meanwhile, they look at cyborg technology and see in it what's human."

Slate.com national correspondent William Saletan, Among the Transhumanists: Cyborgs, self-mutilators, and the future of our race., Sunday, June 4, 2006

"Clearly, transhumanists have some work to do, if the idea that humans may be on the verge of self-directed evolution is to become common currency."

– R.U. Sirius, h+ #1 editorial

mainstream futurism -> technoprogressivism -> transhumanism -> posthumanism


lines are going to blur between:

therapy and enhancement

treatment and prevention

need and desire?

"Realism without imagination is mere reductionism. Realism is not a realistic response to accelerating change. As we approach the apotheosis of the interpenetration of human lives and media, and anarchic democratic access to the means of communication, we sense the eruption of levels of mediated cognitive chaos that is beyond our abilities to comprehend, predict, or define. And while tenured academics might dream of slowing this digital demon down that it might be parsed into a spirit of Amish-like rectitude, there is no solid ground upon which to examine the corpus of current techno-sociopolitical reality. The whole notion of a shared consensus, some kind of social center, is decaying at a fever clip and youths raised on the net and the web won't even recognize the cultural and political assumptions that are still parroted today, albeit it with less and less conviction. Attempts to reverse undesireable trends of real importance, like the increasing gulf between the rich and the poor, or the fact that a nation of pod people will tolerate corporate testing of bodily fluids without screaming bloody revolution, are not serviced by a tepid set of rationalist principles aimed at unseating a small, perceived techno-utopian elite whose influence is limited and waning anyway. Pay attention to the rabble, on the streets or on the web. Then you'll understand that the primary political polarity of our age isn't technolibertarians vs. neo-Luddites, it's between those who believe in everything (gray aliens, The Gnomes of Zurich and every conspiracy theory that slithers across the net, ad infinitum) and those who believe in nothing (unless you can tie it in to a snide quip about The Brady Bunch or Mork and Mindy). And both sides are, implicitly, supporters of TECHNOSURREALISM, whether they know it or not."

– R.U. Sirius, 21st Century Revolutionary, 68-69

                                        Research Paper Proposal

Transhumanism seems to be getting to the point where it is no longer regarded as purely outsider academic or fringe speculation, but a well-recognized acknowledgement that humans are exceeding biologically-predisposed limitations and doing so at an ever-increasing pace. Rates of technological change have undergone series of unprecedented advances, and within the foreseeable future this trend is likely to continue.The current time-frame is witness to the first glimmering hopes of nanotechnology, biotechnology, neurotechnology, and information technology applied to the human condition. What I am interested in discovering is the extent to which these accelerating forces are changing human perception, traditional values, politics, what the ethics involved are, and how this mutational shift will transform the human species and the external environment we occupy. 

            I am interested in this wide-ranging subject because it seems as though my personal trajectory of attempting to understand the human condition has led me to conclude that technology remains an ever-present driving force behind societal change and paradigm reorientation. Realizing approximately how quickly technological advancements have occurred has caused me to wonder with great suspicion how the next generations are going to cope with such a radical degree of future shock. What I am referring to as “post-reality” incorporates these ideas. One of the basic tenets I am proposing, dealing with the philosophical implications behind a post-Darwinian transition, is that “reality” has largely always been a social construction subject to whatever degree of cultural lag is present at any given time in history, and that this social lag has a direct correlation with the general level of technological advancement existent. As various science fiction scenarios from 50 years ago are now taken-for-granted facts of everyday life, and as we are increasingly augmenting ourselves within a lattice of ubiquitous computing, high-tech post-industrial perception engineering, and utilizing biotechnology to maximize efficiency in areas such as agriculture and medicine, I feel it incumbent upon myself to understand and piece together threads from disparate areas of research to produce an informed overview of the factors involved which are working towards building a new planetary and post-terrestrial future.

            Transhumanism presently remains a very challenging, controversial, and complicated subject matter for many reasons and in many ways. I feel that, desirability aside, the basic argument to be made is that, overall, it’s no longer a question of  “if.”  It’s quite conceivable that our future selves will be largely unrecognizable compared with our present level of self-awareness.  Today, on-line technologies such as increased intelligence through neuropharmaceuticals, life extension through biomedical gerontology, artificial intelligence which is currently managing search engines and dynamic social networks,  virtual reality which is indispensible in medicine, chemistry, weather simulation, industry, raw material extraction, etc., and the ongoing alternative energy projects involving such endeavors as launching solar satellites into orbit, are all collectively shaping an entirely new order of being and a new, unprecedented set of parameters for humanity to operate within. Future scenarios involving mind-uploading and merged intelligence with digital realities, interplanetary colonization, altering the genetic makeup of our descendants to eliminate design flaws such as physical and emotional pain, and ending material scarcity through advanced nanotechnology will largely depend on the decisions made now, concerning immediately available and utilized technologies.

            I wish above all to take a realistic approach in investigating this subject-matter, separating future hype from future hope, and trying to understand the why’s and when’s more accurately. I have many questions, and I feel that through enough research and reasoned argument I can arrive at a closer conjecture concerning how these new advanced technologies will transform our apprehension of the human experience, and in what ways we as a human society will deal with them. Specifically, I want to find out how plausible singularity-scenarios and human-cyborg (merging human with machine intelligence) possibilities are, how artificial intelligence can rival human intelligence in its ability to emotionally reason, and how virtual reality can be improved upon (what the current theories and pragmatic approaches are based on available computing power).  More specifically, I want to understand the philosophical implications behind all of this, in order to understand what the best and most intelligent ways are to deal with the inevitable future.

Clarification Practice Run Assignment

Affective Response:
            
As the topic I have chosen brings together the intersection of transhumanism and post-realism, I decided I needed to reinforce my understanding of the cultural and philosophical backbone that has shaped what largely rests upon an attempt to define the underlying assumptions of  ushering in an entirely new self-image for humans in the 21st century.  I had basic questions like what some of the ideas were in dealing with how advanced technology would construct a new material reality, and how the social systems dependent on them would respond in changing the architecture of experienced life.  I also wanted to know how a rapidly changing self-image is expected to play out.  So, I turned to an obscure and out-of-print book by cyberculture pioneer R.U. Sirius called 21st Century Revolutionary, in which surprisingly the basic tenets about how “reality”-changing technologies would change human self-perception today were very accurately and thoughtfully constructed in this collection of writings composed between 1984 and 1998.
             Sirius was a synthesizer of thought, and he was responsible for launching a very influential magazine during the ‘90s called Mondo 2000.  It’s only in retrospect now that commentators, media theorists, and cultural critics alike look back to realize what an impact this magazine had on drilling the cyberspace meme into the collective psyche.  As our lives today are ubiquitously entrenched in digital communication and scientific breakthroughs, a lot of the magic associated with contemplating the possibilities of then-emerging technological phenomena (i.e., the Internet, virtual reality, smart drugs, artificial life, artificial intelligence, life extension, media appropriation, concepts like ‘electronic freedom,’ nanotechnology, etc.) have become so commonplace as to fade from popular vision.  The underlying assumptions about where these emerging forms may be taking us has been my main set of questions.  As R.U. Serious is now editor for a new magazine, called simply “H+,” which is an abbreviation for” transhumanism,” I thought plumbing the depths of his original assumptions and intentions while riding the ‘90s wave of cyberculture would help me formulate tentative answers.  I feel that overall his idea have proven essentially that the real magic of transhumanism and post-realism lies ahead in the not-to-distant future.
             In some ways, I feel that changes in the future will take place so fast that even ahead-of-the-curve thinkers will be at a loss when confronting the reality that will envelop us.  There are still many questions to be asked and ethics committees to be set up to deal with the possibilities of what future technologies hold.  There are fundamental issues of what being human means.  Never before, I think, has a species contemplated its own nature to such an extent.  For example, what will be the reaction of the first person who decides to upload him/herself entirely onto a silicon chip, to exist purely in virtual space?  In the shorter term, what will be the reaction to skin-pigment modification that will allow people to turn their skin colors blue, green, and purple?     

Periphrastic Response:
               In this collection of early writings, Sirius seems to argue for post-scarcity liberation as one of his main conceptual contributions, which when asked to describe put it as “basically a premature post-industrial vision of a cybernetic culture in which alienated labor and scarcity was all but eliminated by technology” (16).  Today, the major holy grail in nanotechnology (molecular engineering) is what’s known as a nanoassembler, which would theoretically allow for the creation of material objects through design code the same way virtual objects can be constructed through software.  The greatest recent leap forward in this emerging technological phenomena has been the creation of carbon-based nanotubes, which is seriously being considered as a revolutionary new material for all elements of structural engineering.  Like the increasing drop in price of computer chips versus increase of performance power, nanotechnology holds the intrinsic capacity to eliminate, or severely cheapen, material desire.  How, exactly, a world of decreased or eliminated material scarcity would even make comprehensible sense can be explained through libratory idealism:  “Cyborgization, nanotechnology—these things have already arrived but they’re also in process of intensification.  As far as adapt of die goes, we need to marry the conceptual nihilism necessary for human adaptability to rapid technical change to an instinctive libratory humanity.  So we engage—rather than oppose—this technical zeitgeist and demand that it’s first goals be to make life materially better for everybody” (23). 
             Elsewhere, Sirius demonstrates, as have his predecessors and antecedents, the concrete evolutionary drive for transcending human limitations (space flight, life extension, the conquering of certain diseases, etc.) as well as the potential theoretical possibilities for ourselves in the future:  augmented, cyborgized, or post-biological.  It’s quite feasible that all three will be attempted.  In some sense, we are already augmented.  We wear eyeglasses, take health-enriching drugs, and utilize computers to solve complex problems.  Synthetic prosthesis is already used to overcome the deficiencies of the differently-abled or impaired, such as artificial legs and hearing aids.  And in some ways, post-biological thinking has already entered into the working processes of genetic engineers.  As Sirius writes, “Under the influence of the silicon chip, biotech, artificial life, space exploration, biological computing, the hope of nanotechnology, the Hubble telescope, advanced medical techniques, advances in gerontology, designer drugs, and virtuality, we now have among us an apparent new species, superhumanity’s “early adopters.”  The nascent wish for transcending the troubling limitations of the meat has long been surpassed by a near hysterical impatience with its limitations.  With all this technical magic and hyperreality at our fingertips, the primate wonders, why must this ridiculous slab of flesh still suffer?” (35).
             However, the downsides of emerging technological possibilities are also emphasized.  We shouldn’t get too utopian, as Sirius writes, “Of course, this battle to define the terms of superhumanity is bracketed by failure.  All of our technological reality hacks seem to have their costs.  Things break down.  Artificial organs malfunction.  The Biosphere II loses its oxygen supply.  Smart drugs cause ulcers…thing…break…down.  As Bruce Sterling told Mondo 2000, “…if you could become a cyborg for reasons of intellectual ecstasy, one day you’d discover that you’d passed out in the street and there are roaches living in your artificial arm” (36).  So, to find a balance between sensible possibilities and downright lunatic ravings, between paradise-engineering and Brave New World, and between eliminated scarcity and us being slaves to our robot overlords, I think it’s pragmatic to thoroughly consider what approach emerging technologies can safely take to enhance our lives without causing more harm than good.  I still wonder how this would happen without emphasizing the extremes of human nature (steroid-addled athletes and Botox-dependent beauty queens) that new abilities oftentimes produce, and how realistically we are to producing a post-work leisure pleasure-dome society where many people actually aren’t starving and living in poverty.

Dialectical Response:
             Perhaps it’s not an understatement to conclude that this text raises more questions than it answers.  At its peak, Mondo 2000 and this book helped pave the way for the corporate versions of cyberculture and digital media:  Wired, decentralized media in general, I-Pods, etc.  They also introduced the public at large to the basic tenets of what was then a specific version of transhumanism.  It synthesized technological growth in all areas and brought mainstream culture into the fold.  It answers in some ways what hurdles need to be overcome before humanity will be ready to accept the frightening and liberating aspects of radically shifting self-images brought on by radically advanced technological possibilities.  It sets a frame work for thinking about these possibilities, about how the world now operates, and how the pace of scientific developments can feasibly occur in relation to our adoption of its products.  This book seems to parallel a lot of my own attitudes concerning the future (self-directed) evolution of humanity.  A lot of the concepts, ideas, and thinking seem downright self-evident, given the unprecedented growth of technology throughout my lifetime, from seeing the family Betamax player switch  to VHS to DVD to Blu-ray in less than 25 years.  But, I still have many lingering questions.  I remain skeptical in some ways that the same kind of advance can/will happen to ourselves in such a short time-frame.  However I do think our conceptual architecture will dramatically change.  That realization has been confirmed by this text. 

Sirius, R.U. 21st Century Revolutionary:  1984-1998. Belgium: Fringecore, 1999.

       My Question                          Text Answer                      My response

How are social systems                Post-scarcity                    Noble vision but currently
going to cope?                                                                       at snail-pace development

How will technology                   Enhanced abilities
shape self-perception                   and evolved technologies        Seems self-evident given

                                                            trajectory of industrial society
How much is hype                      Predicts much that’s true today      A lot of the early ‘90s hype
and how much realistic?                                                                    shaped corporate development
 


                                               Clarification Paper

Transhumanism and post-realism seem to have been a constant background directive in my work on understanding the philosophical implications of technology acceleration. Defining “reality” in the broadest possible sense has always been a tug-of-war between neurological relativity and the demands of the tribe or society one finds him/herself in. As we have truly entered into a global mode of thought via ubiquitous digital media communications technology, I think it’s prescient to look at the ways in which technological advance in general has shaped the direction of contemporary human society. It’s imperative to realize that unprecedented changes in applied science are occurring to a staggering degree, and that these changes placed upon the human condition will result in aberrant characteristics, and for many, difficult-to-stomach future possibilities. Put simply, technological possibilities are moving at speeds faster than society is currently able to comprehend.
                        From a post-industrial perspective, it’s obvious that we are living in very different time than at any other standpoint in documented history. For one thing, humans live a great deal longer. By today’s standards, the ability to extend the average human lifespan by hundreds of years doesn’t seem to be too far off, even by conservative estimates. The technology available today actually raises the prospect of extending the biological human lifespan indefinitely.  Effectively, we are now seriously contemplating the notion of physical immortality. Combined with other such seemingly far-flung prospects as the promises of advanced molecular nanotechnology, mind-uploading, genetic engineering, and the more immediate realizations of virtualized and cyborg possibilities, it’s clear that, in the short term, general philosophical approaches and appraisals need to be given some serious thought. As science fiction writer and futurist thinker Bruce Sterling comments in Frank They’s documentary film Technocalyps:
             “It's important to recognize that the posthuman epic is coming. It really is. It's what we             want… and it's kind of... you can see it written into the pages of magazines. The word of the prophet is on the subway walls here. We really do want to violate human limits now and we're getting closer and closer to the ability to do it. But, it's also important to realize that this is not the end of history. It doesn't solve any of our other problems; it just creates new problems that are going to intensify. And there's going to be more than one kind of posthumanity. And the mere fact that you're not longer human doesn’t mean you don't have the same personality problems you did before. It doesn't liberate you from yourself. It probably makes you more than you were before, not less. You're not going to clank and beat like Robocop. You're just going to have new abilities and new powers, and dealing with power is troublesome. If you have more power you have more responsibility, not less.”
             When beginning research on this topic, it became apparent that I needed to cover both the pragmatic aspects of what was envisaged during the past 20-30 years, and what new developments are occurring today, versus foreseeable and likely future possibilities.  In order to frame such a large body of research, I feel the need to study a wide variety of fields, from neurotechnology (synthetic neurobiology, neuropharmacology/ nutraceutical development, brain mapping, etc.) to reality augmentation (virtual reality, teleimmersion, perceptual cybernetics, neurocomputing) to genetic engineering (biomedical gerontology, modified animal/human organ transplantation, germ-line modifications etc.) to nonbiological intelligence development (artificial intelligence, artificial life, cyborgization, etc.).  Indeed, apart from imagining a post-Darwinian biological platform for our future offspring, it’s worth noting that computational intelligence has already been evolving at a rate about 10 million times faster than purely biological intelligence running on an architecture of DNA (Technocalyps).
             Davis Pearce, author of the “Hedonistic Imperative,” argues for the elimination and eradication of suffering via negative utilitarian ethics, not just for humans, but for all sentient life.  This bold endeavor, which he terms “the Abolitionist Project,” has gained momentum since it’s inception in the early ‘90s.  Max Moore, co-founder and chair of the Extropy Institute, seems to agree with Pearce in the film Technocalyps, where he espouses that “genetic engineering seems to be one of the most moral things we can do.”  He cites the flaws in Darwinian evolution, and indeed these seemingly aberrant results and defects produced by blind mutation and selective processes are also brought up in Pearce’s arguments.  Pearce mentions that he effectively is talking about eugenics when he postulates that physical and mental suffering can and should be eradicated from existence.  He argues that since eugenics is something that humans already practice when choosing mates, it would behoove an advanced species to consciously re-design itself:
             “The difference is that within the next few decades, prospective parents will be able to act progressively more rationally and responsibly in their reproductive decisions. Pre-implantation diagnosis is going to become routine; artificial wombs will release us from the constraints of the human birth-canal; and a revolution in reproductive medicine will begin to replace the old Darwinian lottery. The question is not whether a reproductive revolution is coming, but rather what kinds of being - and what kinds of consciousness - do we want to create?”
             It seems that although the prospect of consciously redesigning the human form physically is a likely scenario in the foreseeable future, a, equally rapidly developing form, that of nanotechnology, may be creeping up on us at a far faster pace of unfolding. As virtual reality programmer Marc Pesce states in R.U. Sirius’s book of interviews, True Mutations, “…the basic ideas of nanotechnology have infected chemistry, biology, and physics. Billions are being invested in research, both by government and industry. And we’ll start to see real nanotechnology products within the next 2 years. Yes, this means that the horrors of nanotechnology will become more and more possible as well, but in the meantime there may be some interesting cures and devices and lifeforms – ample reason for hope” (Sirius 218).
             To take an overarching view of all these possibilities and no doubt the reality-changing perceptions they inherently carry, it’s important, I think, to look at the bigger picture, if one even exists.  Ethnopharmacologist Terence Mckenna in Technocalyps poses the question:
             “Are we going to retain the monkey meat? Are we going to hang onto the body and through the body have a connection to the rest animal nature? Or are we going to become disembodied streams of electrons moving in virtual realities that are contained entirely in circuitry? I think this will probably go both ways. There will be fundamentalists who want nothing to do with technological transformation, and there will be utopians who won't be able to get enough of it. This is probably the moral frontier where we each personally must make a stand. How much of the new technology and its reality-redefining qualities do we want to take in to our own lives?"
             Overall, I feel that I have more than enough research material to delve into for this paper.  Looking through the Journal of Evolution and Technology and the archives of the World Transhumanist Association available through the library resources, as well as books I either have or can borrow on individual subjects such as nanotechnology or virtual reality, I think simply piecing these different technological and philosophical threads together will be the major challenge.  I am left with more questions than answers, and finding tentative explanations behind current bioethical or neurotheological approaches towards these issues will help me modify my own thinking on the subject of transhumanism and how it will undoubtedly shape future reality.
 


Works Cited

Pearce, David. “The Abolitionist Project.” The Hedonistic Imperative. 2007. 29 September 2009. < http://hedweb.com/abolitionist-project/index.html>.
Sirius, R.U. True Mutations: Interviews on the Edge of Science, Technology, and Consciousness. Oakland: Pollinator Press, 2006.

Technocalyps. Frank Theys. 2006.

                   

What Did I Learn (pre-informative essay_

            What I’ve learned so far has actually been exemplifying the idea of “post-realism” even more than I would have previously expected.  The most surprising thing in general I have picked up was that there are quite a number of different voices and perspectives on the subject of transhumanism.  The concept, in and of itself, has taken on an entire mythic aura that I was previously unaware of, with ideas and beliefs ranging from non-Luddite “anti-transhumanists” to ardent fundamentalists.  My mind is actually spinning from multiple back-to-back hours of research and discussion.  I’ve begun to seriously consider the “anti-transhumanist” position because it makes a number of compelling arguments about short-sighted technological growth, and seriously questions the motives behind wanting to transcend biology and the “natural” order.  In the process of attempting to interview a couple of individuals proposing these ideas, a filmmaker & website blogger (which I’m still waiting on), I have begun discussions with two other individuals who I would classify as being more-or-less students, and I am; not quite “fundamentalist” but generally interested in the subject matter and quite knowledgeable about the basic tenets of transhumanism.  I am now also aware of differing perspectives about what is actually desired among transhumanists in general, ranging from morphological freedom, a desire to communicate these ideas more, and seeing technological advances as potentially solving moral dilemmas or being used to "mitigate strife between countries," as one of these individuals said.  For the most part, I can now be reasonably certain that there are basic maxims and assumptions which are central to most adherents of this philosophy.  On the flip-side, I can clearly see the risk between, as I have mentioned elsewhere, paradise-engineering and Brave New World.  Above all, there is still much I don’t know about this subject.  Before I began this investigation, I thought I had a general outline in mind concerning the evolution of this line of thought, from figures like FM-2030 the futurist, Hans Moravec the roboticist, Ray Kurzweil the technologist, Buckminster Fuller the polymath, Max Moore the extropian philosopher, etc., but now I realize there’s much more to this “movement.”  Just as there are many disparate areas of converging technologies that are being classified as “transhuman” (Nano, Bio, Info, Cogno being chief among them), there are also many views about the potential misuse for these developments in the future.  Chief among these fears stems from the history of “old” eugenics, the general malaise of social control theory, Big Brother, elitism, de-population programs, etc.  I need to explore this particular thread a little further to more fully understand where the critical position of transhumanism is coming from.  Obviously at the extreme end of “anti”-transhumanist thought one would expect to find neo-Luddites, anarcho-primitives, etc., but there are many grey areas in the overall subject matter.  I plan to more fully develop some potential conclusions (as if anything is ever really finalized) about this subject, and to carry on further correspondences.  There remains much I still don’t know.  For example, I need some hard facts about the current state of these technologies in general.  I have an inkling, but not an informed enough body of data in mind from which to generate reasonably substantive claims or inferences.  Also, I need to understand the roughly “anti,” or critical position further as well.  This gives me much to consider.  I have many more research links to follow up on, and I’m hoping to find more people to interview as well.  I figured that the more voices from different areas of the spectrum I could find, the more informed I would become.  As I remarked to one of the (“pro”) individuals in an email exchange, “to a lot of outside observers, you could easily replace "God" with "Science" in the ravings of a theist and have it come off as sounding reasonably transhumanish.  It's the idea of ‘scientism,’ i.e., "technology has all the answers."  This is definitely a huge part of the “post-realism” thread.  Technology is essentially a Promethean impulse, but like human behavior in general, it has its dark side as well.  So, I will further research and converse, and hopefully hear more perspectives in this matter as well.    


update 10/25 - made successful contact w/ carlos mejia, contributor to http://www.transalchemy.com. i fully suggest this site to everyone interested in this topic. it provides invaluable critical perspectives that the fundamentalist-minded would do well to consider. i've been able to get a couple of basic interview questions answered, need to go through some articles to gain a more informed perspective, but overall i'm happy i was able to contact this site.
"age of transitions" film definitely worth considering:
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on another note, there's really no difference between the comments and this main blog in terms of my updated. i'm horribly disorganized.
Nick Bostrom's 2005 TED talk

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omnissiah [H+]

 
at is fucking awsome

 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 9:49 PM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
You are not forgotten.
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 1:07 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
If an technological singularity is near and inevitable as some think then 'many' people have real stake in thinking about the future.

The hard part imo is to reduce the stupid uneccessary dangerous bullshit we create for ourselves presently so we can tackle the real problems. 

I get the feeling a technological singularity for humanity will be a rough ride that may destroy us.

 

 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 1:06 AM
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malakai

 
we have a stake in thinking about the future anyway for the simple fact that technological advance is exponentially increasing. i guess that's one of my main contentions in a nutshell. mega-future shock is in store for a lot of people i think. even i myself get blown away from time to time. like just the other day i saw an informercial for mattel's "mindflex" toy: i was like, "mind controlled telekenesis games already?" the kids are more hip to this kind of thinking though. to them it's going to be taken for granted, just like the web.
 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:47 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
>we have a stake in thinking about the future anyway for the simple fact that technological advance is exponentially increasing.

There are some who would fight destruction even if the odds are not good. What else for it? I simply realize that to be against technology entirely foolish as there is not stopping it so best to try to use it to avoid dangers if possible. 


>i guess that's one of my main contentions in a nutshell. mega-future shock is in store for a lot of people i think.

I can see some being shocked when things start to change 'very' fast. Not yet but eventually. Yes I agree with you now. I keep thinking how some people are 'now' which is stupid.
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:25 AM
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malakai

 
exactly! avoiding the dangers of technology needs to be a fundamental priority, even before development i would argue. it's like jeff goldblum was saying in jurassic park about how the scientists were so concerned with making the dinosaurs that they never stopped to ask whether it was a good idea. true words. that's why i like the approach h+ and the institute for ethics & emerging technologies take. one of their most basic primary goals is to ensure that human rights are respected.

http://ieet.org/
http://transhumanism.org/index.php/declaration/

 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:38 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
>exactly! avoiding the dangers of technology needs to be a fundamental priority, even before development i would argue.
 
Also, technologies can undue dangerous mistakes or abuses perhaps. That is why I really feel humanity better try to stop exploiting eachother and start to see one human tribe where differences tolerated as much as is reasonable.

>that's why i like the approach h+ and the institute for ethics & emerging technologies take.

Yes! Me too. I have banners to their websites on my profile. People misunderstand transhumanism that is actually transHUMANISM.

>one of their most basic primary goals is to ensure that human rights are respected.
 
If I were posthuman I would do what I could to protect those who choose to stay natural. To me all sentient beings must be respected. Human, Posthuman as well as A.I.


 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 3:40 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
undue

undo

God damn it.

Haha.
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 4:01 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
I feel this way about animals also...
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 3:41 AM
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malakai

 
word.  i would totally eat vat meat given that theoretically it could be made to taste better than regular meat from slaughtered animals.  i was initially skeptical of pearce's arguments concerning the natural order and the food chain but i think by completely re-designing the ecosystem in a positive way this kind of vision remains a distinct possibility in the future.  the whole idea of "natural" is still a big mystery to me.  it's like saying "that's just the way it is."  even though i have an affection for cheeseburgers and generally despise PETA and most environmental/animal rights freaks i'm ideally philosophically against animal cruelty in all its forms.  but even that gets into murky waters.  like the difference between hunting and fishing and squashing a bug.  we're not buddhists all the time.
 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 4:08 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
>word.  i would totally eat vat meat given that theoretically it could be made to taste better than regular meat from slaughtered animals. 

I doubt it would be any different. Taste the same at the very least.

>i was initially skeptical of pearce's arguments concerning the natural order and the food chain but i think by completely re-designing the ecosystem in a positive way this kind of vision remains a distinct possibility in the future.  

I am hoping we do that off planet and after we really understand the consequences and see vastly more pros than cons come back to earth and start things going here....

I would love it if we could well design heaven on earth but I am cautious. I believe that indefinite lifespan would change our world view enough that we would be much less rash impatient to accomplish our desires. To me indefinite lifespans would increase our odds of not destroy ourselves. 

>the whole idea of "natural" is still a big mystery to me. 

We are natural. Technologies are a human thing and humans are natural? Haha!

>it's like saying "that's just the way it is."  

Unlike 'some' not all atheists I do not worship nature as God. God is not a thing we wish to change but nature does change. Nature should not be a God. It is only what it is and it changes.  

>even though i have an affection for cheeseburgers and generally despise PETA and most environmental/animal rights freaks i'm ideally philosophically against animal cruelty in all its forms.  

Peta makes me nervous. I am not too familiar with any environmentalist freaks.

I hope most are not irrational. We need them to be rational coz.... we need them....

>but even that gets into murky waters.  like the difference between hunting and fishing and squashing a bug.  we're not buddhists all the time.

Laws are not always the answer to solutions. Technology can solve certain problems if we choose to work towards that. Everyone thinks I suffer from scientism but this is not so. I see that they are moronic and small minded enough to think philosophy and force i. e. gov politics much of it is the solution to all problems. They are not always the solutions.

The moral dilema of abortion could be solved by technologies one day. Cryonics? Something.

I do not suffer from scientism I simply choose to solve problems without force and there will be times technologies can do that.

Fuck those other atheist. They are 'religious' fools.
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 5:43 AM
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malakai

 
"Nature should not be a God. It is only what it is and it changes."

i would disagree personally. my argument was that nature is relative, not absolute. biologist rupert sheldrake had the idea that the "laws" of nature are more than "habits." the flip-side of your statement is what's referred to as "process theology" put forth by alfred north whitehead, which is the idea that, basically, "god" = change, or "novelty" as terence mckenna waxed theory on.

 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 5:55 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
i would disagree personally. my argument was that nature is relative, not absolute. biologist rupert sheldrake had the idea that the "laws" of nature are more than "habits." the flip-side of your statement is what's referred to as "process theology" put forth by alfred north whitehead, which is the idea that, basically, "god" = change, or "novelty" as terence mckenna waxed theory on.

Yes. But you know most other people do not see God as we ( the times I am pandeist ) see it. Some atheist treat nature almost like an fundamentalist. Not quite that bad but 'close' imho.




 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:13 AM
malakai

 
*replace "than" with "like"
 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 5:56 AM
omnissiah [H+]

 
there is those crazy rights activists if you want to know them one is called animal liberation front and the other is earth liberation from totally irrational

 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:06 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
I am not familiar with them. I though Malakai was talking about actual environmentalist who are not helping when it comes to politics taking attention away from actual problems.
 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:30 AM
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malakai

 
well meaning, perhaps, but yea deranged.  that's one example where "belief" can scandalize minds.  i used to know a lot of militant vegans.  same shit.
 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:09 AM
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omnissiah [H+]

 
earth liberation front


 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:08 AM
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malakai

 
i recommend penn & teller's "bullshit" episode on PETA.  absolutely hilarious.  did you know PETA routinely kills more animals than they save?
 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:11 AM
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penn and teller do have some informative crap i love that show yo

 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:15 AM
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omnissiah [H+]

 
for some reason when i think of a dark side of transhumanism i always think of nano enhanced baby bombs or like a million hulks

 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:17 AM
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malakai

 
i imagine a world of brad pitts and angelina jolies

hahaha.  every dude on the 'roids and every chick all botoxed-out.

 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 7:01 AM
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sumphilosopheô[H+]
Abolitionist Project

 
Good grief!

LOL!

You should make a profile of an evil posthuman. hehe.



 
Posted by sumphilosopheô[H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:25 AM
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malakai

 
fullerian insight that i wrote in the bulliten board of a political science class for some reason, may become relevant:

I'm re-reading a biography on Buckminster Fuller, which is why I've been quoting his ideas a lot lately, and his basic position on socio-economic-politics was this:
Malthus (increasing scarcity of resources combined with rising population) + Darwin (survival of the fittest) -> traditional justification for the conditions of poverty and starvation -> competition for resources among rival sectors of the population -> socialism (Keynes) vs. capitalism (Hayek). Modern economic theory is still more-or-less modeled on this basic assumption.
Thomas Malthus was a late eighteenth and early nineteenth century British economist and professor at the East India Company College, and it was this institution that he gathered his data from. At the time, his access to this information made him the first person to "study a comprehensively complete inventory of the World's vital and economic statistics." (Buckminster Fuller's Universe, by Lloyd Steven Sieden, page 372). Malthus' contention was that the human population was increasing more rapidly than life-supporting goods and services.
Fuller recognized that Malthus left something out of the equation: accelerating human knowledge (technology) combined with the resources that went into the goods and services. Starting with this realization, Fuller went onto analyze an even more comprehensive repository of global knowledge and resource inventory which "clearly indicated that humanity's constant addition of new knowledge to physical resources was producing a set of circumstances never before seen in recorded history. Such new knowledge would permit every individual and industry to do much more with the same resources [or less] and would consequently enable more people to be supported" (373). Fuller then went on to show that the rate at which technology was increasing life-support was much greater than even the rate of population expansion itself. Based on available knowledge, he predicted that by 1970-1980 humanity would have reached the point where it was possible to support everyone on the planet, given the factors of resource availability, technological sophistication, and global population.
It's pretty fascinating stuff, especially given the promises of nanotechnology, where post-scarcity would clearly become the norm. The basic idea is that more and more, we're being able to do more with less and less than previous generations. The gap between development of a new technology and it's dispersal (as well as price) is becoming significantly less, when, for instance, you compare the widespread global adoption of televisions to the widespread global adoption of cellphones.
I'm getting more excited all the time by reading things like when last May a 16 year old kid discovered a plastic-eating bacteria: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/24/0335242. Plastic pollution is one of the most serious ecological threats because of its non-biodegradable nature. As a result there's islands the the size of the state of Texas floating around in the ocean. Over time little plastic pellets get into the water and food supply..and that's not good. As far as I know, this bacteria-idea is one of the first serious solutions proposed. So I think things really are getting better in the long run for more people globally.

 
Posted by malakai on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 7:06 AM
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roids arnt bad only if you abuse them if i wanted bigger muscles i might think of taking it just not abuse it

 
Posted by omnissiah [H+] on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 7:26 AM
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ĴØȿĦ ÆƦƮǐƨŢ
Josh Merrill

 
who will be able to use these technologies, i fore=see only the rich using them to their full potential, and selling the weaker technologies to the masses
 
Posted by ĴØȿĦ ÆƦƮǐƨŢ on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 6:02 AM
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You all are crazy people. Transhumanistic Robots living forever? J/K, wow what a great read. I thoroughly enjoyed reading all of this, especially the comments. I don't even know many people out here in the Denver area that have even heard any of these terms. The general public is so far from having any clue what you all are talking about. It's a shame cause they all are invested and influencing this dynamic whether they are conscious of it or not. If I think about it too long the logical future manifestation we seem headed for appears grim, especially with the elite trying to manipulate this future quantum potential to their own benefit (if that's really actually even going to be possible) and the masses ignorant to their place in any of the collective progression we call "reality". I try to have the inspirational outlook that Terence Mckenna seemed to maintain, being an active participant and observer of this uniquely curious time we live in at the moment, while trying to rationalize yet let go of any rational fear based conjectures concerning death and the unknown that might inhibit me from fully appreciating the experience of this incarnation and my own mysterious role in developing and influencing it.

Just wanted to send out some appreciation.

McAD

 
Posted by Freedom Movement on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 1:08 AM
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malakai

 
thanks for reaching out freedom movement. really appreciate the tunes.

one of my primary contentions from the get-go was that ubiquitous technology is inherently de-centralizing and empowering to the masses rather than controlling, and the main example i use to justify this is the gutenberg printing press. before the 1440's, reading was strictly confined to the clergy. it was actually illegal in some cases to be in possession of a bible if you were not part of the elite. other than technologically rendering scribes obsolete, it wasn't too long before the proverbial cat was out of the bag. since the elite could no longer "control" the dissemination of information, they were more-or-less forced to embrace it. this, for example, directly led to martin luther's protestant reformation.

as robert anton wilson's writes in the rich economy,

The inevitable direction of any technology, and of any rational species such as Homo sap., is toward what Buckminster Fuller calls ephemeralization, or doing-more-with-less. For instance, a modern computer does more (handles more bits of information) with less hardware than the proto-computers of the late '40's and '50's. One worker with a modern teletype machine does more in an hour than a thousand medieval monks painstakingly copying scrolls for a century. Atomic fission does more with a cubic centimeter of matter than all the engineers of the 19th Century could do with a million tons, and fusion does even more.

This tendency toward ephemeralization [buckminster fuller] or doing more-with-less is based on two principal factors, viz:

1. The increment-of-association, a term coined by engineer C.H. Douglas, a meaning simply that when we combine our efforts we can do more than the sum of what each of us could do separately. Five people acting synergetically together can lift a small modern car, but if each of the five tries separately, the car will not budge. As society evolved from tiny bands, to larger tribes, to federations of tribes, to city-states, to nations, to multinational alliances, the increment-of-association increased exponentially. A stone-age hunting band could not build the Parthenon; a Renaissance city-state could not put Neil Armstrong on the Moon. When the increment-of-association increases, through larger social units, doing-more-with-less becomes increasingly possible.

2. Knowledge itself is inherently self-augmenting. Every discovery "suggests" further discoveries; every innovation provokes further innovations. This can be seen concretely, in the records of the U.S. Patent Office, where you will find more patents granted every year than were granted the year before, in a rising curve that seems to be headed toward infinity. If Inventor A can make a Whatsit out of 20 moving parts, Inventor B will come along and build a Whatsit out of 10 moving parts. If the technology of 1900 can get 100 ergs out of a Whatchamacallum, the technology of 1950 can get 1,000 ergs. Again, the tendency is always toward doing-more-with-less."

currently, i don't believe the fears (the segment in alex jones' "endgame" for example) are completely unjustified. simply trying to define "anti" and "pro" remains difficult. it goes back to the terence mckenna quote above asking how much of this new technology we are going to take in, embrace, and assimilate into our lives:

"What I’m advocating is that we each take responsibility for the cultural transformation by realizing it is not something which will be disseminated from the top down. It is something which each of us can contribute to by attempting to live as far into the future as possible."

and, there was a dude in technocalyps who was saying it was quite reasonable to speculate that there will be a large number of people in the future who decide that, for them, the internet will be enough; a drawing-line, if you will. i think currently, the roughly "anti" position (disregarding techno-luddites and "end-civ" anarcho-primitives) can best be described as being "critical," which is a valid and vastly important viewpoint to have. i think it's imperative to retain a firm degree of skepticism.

i guess i would also argue that in the modern world, technology is absolutely vital, as can be summed up in the person of norman borlaug, whose higher-yield genetically modified crops saved an estimated billion people from otherwise starving to death. regardless of the whole idea of "population control," it's worth noting that 200 years ago the global population was only somewhere in the range of half a billion people. it's quite possible to, as jamais cascio has said, imagine "10 billion people with western lifestyles ... and by using half the amount of energy we use today. all by paying slightly more attention to efficiency in our designs." i don't think at this point there really is a turning back, so i feel the above idea is something very much worth shooting for. i would much rather prefer the french idea of a "forward escape" should things get too chaotic because we decided to refuse the technology that would have made life better for more people.


 
Posted by malakai on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 2:12 PM
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