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Gender: Male
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Age: 41
Sign: Sagittarius

City: Luton
Country: UK
Signup Date: 3/30/2006

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Saturday, October 14, 2006 

Current mood:  happy
This is a very popular question!
The conventional logic of past sci-fi authors who have written about trips to Alpha Centauri in various ways has been that you can go at 10% light-speed as an absolute minimum. Since Alpha Centauri is only 4.3 light years away, you get there in 43 years. It's as simple as that, end of story.
Now, my concept is based on a vastly different timescale of 50,000 years  for no simpler reason than the fact that this ark happens to be a gargantuan, super-heavy, super tanker.
Please see this thread:-
Escape time lines for my interstellar ark

The 50,000 year long voyage duration I am projecting is what I like to call a "least-propulsive energy requirement versus most-safe, optimisation". If the ark moves much slower and it takes any longer than this order of timescale, you can see that Alpha Centauri will soon start to drift out of range, and the vehicle will be playing 'catch up' with its destination. If it speeds much faster, and aims to reach Alpha Centauri in say just 5,000 or 10,000 years from now, then the craft will need a lot more propulsive energy on its way out of our Solar System, suffer major impacts from any Oort cloud bodies encountered en-route and also require excessive delta-v at the other end in order to slow right down and successfully rendezvous with New Earth.
Alpha Centauri is 4.3 light years away from the Earth and our Solar System. Light travels at a speed of 186,282 miles per second, or about 5.9 trillion miles in one year. This means in normal every day distance measure, Alpha Centauri is roughly 25.3 trillion miles away from us.
The Centauri Princess ark has spent several decades within our own Solar System, doing a series of speed-gaining maneouvers to achieve a final Sun-relative escape velocity of circa 60,000 miles per hour:-








 
At that speed it will take just under 50,000 years to cross the 25.3 trillion miles of interstellar space to reach New Earth at Alpha Centauri. Simple arithmetic!
Let us compare my concept with a couple of others. In Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri strategy games series, a ship called the Unity reaches Alpha Centauri in just 40 years
In Mary Doria Russel's world renowned novel 'The Sparrow' another fantasy ship gets to a planet called Rakhat at Alpha Centauri in just 17 years
Well, I certainly wont be stopping anybody if they want to bypass my interstellar ark and settle on New Earth at their faster-invented speeds, if they can demonstrate how they will slow down at the other end.

"... If you have the power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass beyond them! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from God)!" - Qur'an (55:33)

Mine's is a massive 200-trillion kilogramme vehicle that is going to accelerate using planetary gravity-assisted slingshots from our Solar System and decelerate using similar means at the destination. The world's *first* blueprint for the safest way that humanity will eventually reach another Solar System beyond our own... 
At first glance, people are quick to point out: "Oh, but our technology would improve vastly in the future... we'll find newer and faster ways...". Yes I accept that we'll have improved technology in the future, there's no question about it, but my argument is that the fundamental laws of nature, the physical distances and the dynamical constraints will never ever alter. Not now, not in a thousand years from now.
One study concluded that a solar sail craft of  (249 foot by 249 foot) could theoretically propel a tiny 3-kg probe to the stars in... wait for it.... 100,000 years!
It seems to me that the only way humanity will ever hope to bridge the gulf to the stars is via a multi-generational mission concept of this type. The asteroid belt  is there to provide material for us to utilise to build our interstellar arks and the two primary suns of Alpha Centauri are there to serve as our first stop destination. Human interstellar travel is no longer a fantasy-filled dream! "Warp drives" from Star Trek may never happen in the real world...


Abdul Ahad


 
Gee 50,000 years, makes it just a little to long for me unless I start clonning myself now.  I will have to read more of this...
 
Posted by on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 2:31 PM
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THERE ARE ZOMBIES IN LAS VEGAS
terra king

 

Hi Abdul,

It's Terra. The person who told you to get a clue was very rude and also showed HIS education level and intelligence as compard to YOURS. I think it's great that you took your valuable time to explain this when anyone who reads alot and understands the concept of science fiction  would understand "It's a story, it's sci fi". You can make it anything you want. It's your world and you are allowing us to view it from our own little space in the world. WHAT A GIFT. So, in short.....in the long run, it dosen't matter how long it truely would take to get to Alpha Centuri, if you say 50,000 years (and trust me, I couldn't come close to understanding how to figure it out, but I trust you do), then 50,000 years it is.

Love your spirit.

terra king

 


 
Posted by THERE ARE ZOMBIES IN LAS VEGAS on Saturday, October 14, 2006 - 3:39 PM
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Tax Lady

 
cryogenics could make it a short trip for some...
 
Posted by Tax Lady on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 2:07 PM
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Anubis

 
It is obvious to me that by the time we possibly need to resettle somewhere, your method will be more likely.  We just haven't had enough advances is space travel.
 
Posted by Anubis on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 2:47 AM
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Boris

 

Its sounds reasonable for the current level of technology travel wise.  


 
Posted by Boris on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 8:43 PM
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Lexxington

 
I FEEL REALLY STUPID
 
Posted by Lexxington on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 4:32 AM
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Abe
Abe F. March

 

Abdul,

just one comment to make it clearer to the non-expert (like me) when you say in your calculations "or about 5.9 trillion miles in one year" you would say "5.9 trillion miles in one light year".

I find it fascinating.

 


 
Posted by Abe on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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Monique
Monique Osier

 
So if I get to Jupiter, I won't get stupider?

hehehee...I remember the communicators from Star Trek; oddly enough, they're not that far off from today's technology. Do you think that was Gene Roddenberry's 'vision' or modern man's 'emulation'...

I've always been at odds over space exploration...we haven't actually done a very stellar job on the perfectly good planet  we were born to...so far all we've offered the Universe is a few killer wrenches, debris and golf balls.

I can't wait for you to prove that what lay beyond the elliptical infinite is merely the interior of an eggshell.

Love yer brains and yer guts too!

Pickles says " * "



 
Posted by Monique on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:29 PM
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Timothy

 
Multigenerational starships may in fact be appropriate but velocitys of up to 10% of light
speed or more can be achieved by them with existing science, and technology . At
10% of light velocity it would go about 5000 light years in a 50,000 year period.
In other parts of the galaxy you have 10s of millions of star systems crammed into like just
10 cubic light years of space . There the stars are only a few hundreths to a few thousandths
of a light year from each other. one such destination is the pleides star cluster which is at a 400 light year distance on a bearing of about 135 degrees to the elliptic plane of the sol system.
tim
 
Posted by Timothy on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 8:26 AM
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Abdul Ahad - Bestselling Author
Abdul Ahad

 
Hypothetically speaking, there's no reason to refute that a small vehicle (something unmanned and really tiny) could be catapulted toward the stars at 10% light-speed. Though such a thing is still highly speculative by today's technology standards and without any prior spaceflight precedents to go by. Where my concept has material credibility and a grounding in solid fact, is that it follows in the footsteps of NASA's Voyagers 1 and 2 and Pioneers 10 and 11's successful escape from the realm of the Sun's sphere of influence. Each of those vehicles was successfully catapulted out of our Solar System using gravity-assited swing by's of outer planets on speeds and trajectories comparable to what I have envisioned here.

On the point of other candidate stars further out than Alpha Centauri that may harbor potential 'New Earths', certainly the Milky Way galaxy is a vast system with endless distant and exotic shores that beckon. However, there are a number of crucial factors that weigh heavily in favor of Alpha Centauri's relative attractiveness: the system is on our doorstep in terms of proximity and is sufficiently *mature* compared to many other systems out there. The Pleiades, which you quote as an example, is a relatively *young* system of first generation hot O and B-class stars that are much younger than Sol and some of them - notably Alcyone (Eta Tauri) - are still shrouded in a wispy cloud of interstellar gas and dust from which they were born. The likelihood then is that such systems would have insufficient metallicity to enable rocky, terrestrial sized planets to form, and their suns would still be relatively more unstable, having yet to settle down into the proper Main Sequence of life. The two primary suns of Alpha Centauri are highly evolved and 'sunlike', offering strong prospects for a New Earth.
 
Posted by Abdul Ahad - Bestselling Author on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:31 PM
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