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Wallabee Joe

Wallabee Joe


Last Updated: 3/31/2009

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Gender: Male
Status: Single
Sign: Cancer

City: Greenville
State: North Carolina
Country: US
Saturday, February 28, 2009 

Current mood:  amused
Category: News and Politics
First off let me start by saying if anyone is going to sink my ship it will be me.I tried being professional about the whole matter.I asked no one to get involved and to just let it drop multiple times.But no.Apparantly this is just to much fun to mess with me.Thus it's time for some truth.Roddy Piper said not to throw stones at a man with a machine gun.I stated this.It was taken that I apparantly had one and was going to use it.LMAO!!!No.What I meant was you shouldn't mess with people who know things about you.Things you wouldn't want shared.Under normal circumstances I would never dream of rolling over on someone.But these are some extraordinary circumstances.I beleive if something is going to be said about someone have the stones to let them know you said it and normally I would pull you aside and have this conversation but my words are being twisted beyond belief so to ensure that I am not misunderstood or lied about I am going to use this forum so there is no way what I say can be twisted.Don't worry.The only names I will drop will be the three that are dragging me across the coals.
1.Donnie Steamboat/Kid Cas: Read under LMAO:(http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=16248333&blogId=473446234)Once again your professionalism astounds me.You have no reason to be involved in this.Nor do you have any reason to talk about me your "personal demon"(ROFL)in everyone's favorite comic section kas' corner.I will tell you like you told me.I have a phone, myspace, and I stay down the street from you and your "school".You have a problem with me you can contact me.I will gladly say to you what I'm saying here which is no different than anything else I've said.I do work out.Unfortunately i suffer injuries that limit what I can do for periods of time because I keep working shows while injured.These reaggravate the injuries which slow the process.Plus I am pretty busy with outside life so its hard to balance.I know everyone should be the ultimate athlete/worker like you and not work when injured.Or catch up on their beauty sleep while in the WWE locker room.Oh yea you've been there.I know.Great job!!What did you learn?Nothing compared to what you could of if you cared enough about the business and your craft to not waste the opportunity that hundreds of more deserving workers than you or I both should have.I never claimed to be the best worker.But I work damn hard at what I do.And what times I've sat in the audience of one of your shows,I've had countless fans,workers and your trainees ask when was I coming back to the show and that they missed me.I wasn't begging to come to work for your shows.I asked out of respect for the fans and workers that wanted me there.Out of hopes of helping the younger talent out if I could.Cause after what I saw at your "closed" training session which just anybody off the street stops and watches as you have trainees who have no clue what they are doing and people who don't wrestle training kids.The only person (and no disrespect is intended to anybody at uwc training)qualified to train is Cash and supposedly you.Plus I am that dedicated to my fans that if they really want to see me than I am willing to take a pay cut to perform for them.You only paid me one time anyway so its not like it would have been different.i have fans that have offered to have fund raisers for me to be on a show.I have been propositioned by companies in several states as far south as florida as far north as pennsylvania and as far west as illinois.You said i've screwed up 2 chances at the top indy promotion.I haven't had a chance at ROH yet but if I get the chance I'll be sure to not mess that up.You and I have worked alot of the same promotions but yet i seem to be the one who is a main stay character while you are absent from the show.I don't consider myself a jobber.I am a worker who does what is beneficial for the show.I do what i'm told and have never disrespected a promoter.I've never needed a win or a title to push myself or get over with the fans.And I only kept asking to work because you kept saying you didn't need me right now.and as any worker is suppose to do I kept checking back.And since you supposedly don't run uWc by yourself I of course asked others.Even though i suck I am a graduate of the uWc "school".Remember this before you decide to join this school.I learned how to work after uWc anyway.We both went to the TNA try-out.You say I suck while I was being complimented and singled out for my work.When you were done with your spots I wanted to take your name off my resume as a trainer cause I was worried it was going to hurt my chances.You cheated during the try out.We were told not to get in the ring with anyone we had ever been in the ring with before and you got in there with someone you've worked plenty before.I got applause while you were being hollered at.I was complimented by 6 of the TNA staff and heard back from them two days later.How did that work out for you?Oh yea...it took them weeks.You obviously stood out.But still I don't consider myself to be any better a "worker" than you are.I am down here in the indies just like you.Doing the same work except I'm not a spot monkey.I will always be grateful to you and the uwc (which I payed above and beyond my dues for a number of years to) for giving me a start.But you weren't my trainer though and uWc wasn't my first show.You taught me how to take and not take a few moves.You stood by and watched me get my ass beat in a match at a free show for no reason and did nothing to stop it or about it.And then wanted to yell at me about how that match went.I gave a lot to your company and your fans and you.And you pushed people who didn't care.Someone I respect used a phrase today after your entertaining little read."That's a special kind of asshole."I'm a bigger man than to call you a joke or stupid or any other thing you want to name me.Just know you are not as respected as you think you are.You hurt the business with your little blogs and lack of respect to the business and your fellow workers.At one time you had a decent show.But now it's riddled with trainees not yet ready for the ring.the majority of your crowd are kids.And yet your show has sexual themes and cussing including from you.And to repeat what a worker you respect said to your trainees who are basically your show "You can spoonfeed crap to a baby and they won't know any difference."Now I'm not calling anyone who works the uWc crap.I respect the workers.But the trainees need to find a real trainer besides their fellow trainees to teach them.And should not be in the ring doing matches and spots when they are not ready.You never let me and a few others do that and it was with good reason.It hurts the business.Then to help communicate someone else's threats and get involved in something you know nothing about.You have enough drama in your life with the recent events behind the scenes in your company and in your own life then to start getting involved in mine.And i would appreciate you staying out of what does not concern you. Since they decided to fill your head with all of that crap about me I bet they didn't take the time to tell you what they have said about you.But of course your to busy on the let's lynch Wallabee train.Pitiful like that little dance you do that they agreed with me looks like a cat hacking up a hairball.
2.Alex Adonis.Dude.Seriously.Steroids?Lay off of them.This was between me and Crystal.Nothing was said about you till you got involved and started your roid raging.You need to worry more about your personal life and issues.You've had alot of bad things happen to you.I understand.So why would you get involved in a petty arguement and then play soap opera drama hour with my career and life when you know I'm having it rough.That's not me whining.That's me asking you stay out of this and leave it be.I'm not scared of any man.I've had my ass beat more times than I can count in and out of the ring.But my Stepfather was 6'8" and over 450 lbs.He beat me alot and I still stood toe to toe with him in brawls and wasn't scared so stop trying to scare me.If you want me that bad why wait?Is it gonna solve anything?Are you really gonna be this immature that you got to play bully for your girlfriend?You told me to grow up.You say I'm a sorry worker.I've heard and seen things about you guy.You to have a lack of respect for the business and it's veterans and workers and people in general.I'm not the only one who knows it.And if you kept quiet and listened instead of being bullheaded you could be a great worker.Now I ask you man to man to stay out of an arguement between me and her and stop playing these childish high school games of spreading rumors and being a bully.You are a champion at companies.Your outside life is suppose to be something kids can look up to.your attitude and actions do not reflect this.And i did do a report on steroids in english.Man seriously as a human being I'm concerned for your health.You show a lot of signs of the negative effects.
3.Crystal: Really? Seriously? Your gonna direspect the person who got you in the business and when I ate alot from everyone so that you could get your start?I never said noone loved you.I said they did not want a mark in the business.I took a paying customer out of the seats.That is basically a sin.How dare you disrespect what and ask what I've done for this business.I do what every real worker does and that is sacrifice mind body and soul to every show.then you want to talk crap about my personal life.So of course you as a green valet and friend have completely disrespected me.I dare you to talk to anyone else in the locker rooms the way you did me that day and see how quick your tossed out of there.Also you forget the stuff I've been there for that was so dramatic or it was a secret from certain people but you talked to me about it.You forget some of the things i know would make people look at you a little different.Especially Alex.And even though you are twisting my words, lying about me, and trying to destroy my career I haven't said anything about any of it.I'm not in love with you.I never wanted you like that.You obviously misunderstood my intentions which were to be your friend and help you in wrestling because I believed in you.You have problems with my training ability?I told you I wasn't a trainer.You got hurt training?I told you before you started training you will get hurt.You know how it feels to be lied about and have rumors spread about you.Now I ask that you stop doing that to me.I have never said anything bad about you and I do not deserve the treatment or lack of respect you are showing me.You are out of High School as well.Stop playing the games.Your I'm still young excuse does not excuse your lack of respect for the business it's workers or it's fans or myself.I truley regret bringing you into the business after the courtesy you have shown me.I have never said anything ill or threatened or hurtful about you or your family or your friends.Stop saying otherwise please.
Now I haven't stated any lies or slander up here.I haven't dropped anyone's name.It's not my responsibility to tell you 3 what anyone else in particular is thinking about you.Just know the thoughts are there.You 3 I have no respect for or desire to deal with.This is the same way I've spoke this whole time.Those of you that truley know me know I am not the person they portray me to be.those who don't know me ask around to find out what kind of person I am before you join the lynch mob.If anyone has a problem with what I have said to these 3 or with me contact me here or one of them for my number.I'm sure they would be glad to give it to you.I was trying to leave it alone and turn the other cheek.But the longer I sit here quietly the more I hear what you 3 are saying and doing.I have done nothing to any of you especially to deserve what you are doing.I wish you luck on your future endeavors and ask for it to be left alone one more time.I ask no one to choose sides or to get involved one more time.And again I apologize to everyone for this and any previous and future unprofessionalism.But like i said,no one sinks my ship but me.
 
Charisma Personified

 
Look Wallabee, your beef with Donnie is whatever. I'm not here to defend him because he's more than capable of doing that himself and it's really none of my business. And I certainly don't know Adonis and Crystal on a level to get involved in their deal either. But as one of those "clueless trainees" you're talking about, I would like to make a few points.


1.) The One practice you showed up at, was the first practice Donnie hasn't been there leading in a long time because he had to entertain family from out of town. Neither here nor there... Marvelous Mike West is the senior trainee and the assistant trainer/fill in for Donnie if Donnie isn't around. I've seen you work. I'm not trying to be a dick but Marvelous Mike can work circles around you so I'm not sure where you get off questioning his credibility to train. Aside from Jake Manning I haven't seen anybody on the North Carolina Indy Circuit that isn't booked in the UWC who Mike isn't leaps and bounds beyond. Now granted, I'm sure there's a lot of guys I haven't seen, but, there's a lot I have and Mike's better than the lot.


2.) The UWC Show is comprised of a few trainees, but, also comprised of Joey Silvia (who in my opinion is the very best the state has to offer), Phil Shatter (Check Developmental territory Florida Championship Wrestling's website to see more on him) Kimo (You can find his ECW and Heat matches on youtube, or catch him regularly on NWA: Anarachy), Kid Cas (You may have seen him as an extra on a couple of different Raws, although I can't recall which ones since he was called to go to more of their shows then I can recall) Shawn Alexander (Also a worker who can put the WWE Call letters on his resume, and a great performer), OVW's Darryl Kelly regularly before OVW and whenever he's in town since going to OVW, And a slew of other guys. Matter of fact, Every champion we've got is a non-trainee. Now I'll agree with you that by comparison to the guys I just listed, aside from Marvelous Mike and Billy Kool when he was around, us trainees don't measure up. But, very few o thers in North Carolina measure up to the trainess that don't measure up to the rest of the UWC Roster, so....

3.) Since our show has been "riddled" with "clueless trainees" (even though as I just pointed out, it's not) attendance has done nothing but rise. None of the guys on our show are recognized names from WWE, The WCW hay day, or TNA, yet our "on average" attendence is higher then shows I've attended that have forked over the cash for name guys.


Now, this isn't me trying to put myself over. I openly admit that in the UWC talent pool I fall very close to the bottom... That's no fault of Donnie's. You can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make him drink. I just have a selective sense of thirst. But, I can say that I've never screwed up a body slam and then tried to critique how other people work. (Side Note: Our newest trainee who just started this Sunday executed a proper body slam his first try... Just thought I'd point that out.) You wanta talk about what "hurts the business"? Indy guys marking out for themselves hurts the business... Well, maybe not, but, at the very least it makes it a significantly less enjoyable place to be. Don't misunderstand it, this is a rare occasion that I'm paying it any mind so I enjoy it enough, but, if I did pay attention to the long list of average joe guys who have no reason to run their mouth but feel the need to do it anyway to feed their own ego, I'd definatly have a constant headache.


So, like I said, your beef with those three is your beef, but don't take shots at Mike's credibility to train or at us as trainees when we have nothing to do with this crap. The facts are just that, Facts. Attendence is on the rise with the solid combination of Grade A Workers like the aforementioned combined with trainees who are getting experience and utilizing the show time as a place to learn our craft in addition to practice and the plethora of other shows most of us are on. And when I say attendence is on the rise, Attendence has very rarely dipped below the 150 area at any of our shows, Is always between two and three hundred at our Kinston show which we throw once a month, was just over two hundred at our Snow Hill show and is always in that ball park in that town, and like I said, is well over a hundred at all of our shows... Significantly more then any Indy I've attended in the area. You might be right, by the standards held at one time, some of us probably wouldn't be considered ring ready, but, with boat loads of additional experience I've yet to see anything from you that gives me the slightest impression that you're better than us so I don't understand why you're the guy making that point. You know, just straight "shootin" it here.

 
Posted by Charisma Personified on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 8:17 PM
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Wallabee Joe
Wallabee Joe

 
I appreciate the comment.And I posted it because it's a valid point you think you have and I obviously need to clear this up.I stated I wasn't saying anyone from the uwc was crap.I respect the workers and trainees trying to do the same thing I got in this business to do.I have also stated I don't consider myself any better than anyone else.
I am down here in the indies just like you and everyone else. As far as what I meant by clueless is nothing personal towards anyone.I watched trainees with three days of training in the uwc ring wrestling a match amoung other countless things that are really to much to list.Ive been told by trainees of the uwc that donnie was not training the sessions.I am not discrediting Mike nor would I.
Mike knows I respect him and think he's come a long way in his training. As far as attendance at the shows I've been to a few.The attendance levels of these shows are average with every other show I work and watch.I have also attended uwc shows where by intermission a portion of the crowds have left.I have also seen you work.I would never knock anyone's potential.And I read the response you put in Kid Cas' blog which by the way is his second reference bad mouthing me which is why I wrote what I wrote about him to begin with.I know how to do a body slam and considering that I learned it years ago,have perfrormed many other moves since then and am usually the smaller of the competitors of the matches do not use that particular move in my work.I might not have the accomplishments of many countless others that are much better than myself but I have done a lot in and for this business.I've done it for the entertainment of the fans and my desire to do what I love.What hurts the business is writing telling fans the behind the scenes of making a show.People that are not in habit of respecting the veterans with the traditons of the business.And people without enough training doing things in the ring they are not ready for.I welcome any rebuttle or comment from others.Again I did not say anything bad about the workers of the uwc.I respect everyone who works to do the same thing I do and thats to do their absolute best for the show.I do not consider myself better than anyone else in the business because I am out here doing the same thing everyone else should be doing and that is their absolute best for the show and the business.I do not mark out for myself I am just as amazed at my accomplishments as the next guy.I am my own worst critic.And I, like everyone else in this business, am a disposable commodity.

 
Posted by Wallabee Joe on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 9:00 PM
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Charisma Personified

 
Okay, welll, if you have all of this "respect" for the UWCers, then why did you text Crystal and say the UWC was just a "Two Bit Company"? Because that comment is what provoked my response to Kid Cas' blog. Like I said, I don't give a crap about the rivarly between you two, but you're knocking the my home promotion, the way I've been trained, the people who have trained me, and now you're telling me that you're not doing that all and you have this great respect for the UWCers and anybody else who's lacing a pair of boots... Well which is it? Because the way I see it, calling the company that all of the "workers of the UWC" are workin on a "Two Bit Company" doesn't exactly reek of that respect you're claiming to have.

 
Posted by Charisma Personified on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:07 AM
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Wallabee Joe
Wallabee Joe

 
Ok and at this point you are trying to put words in my mouth about workers.Most vets would have probably laughed at you or let you have it for questioning their respect or them for that matter.I don't consider myself a vet but if you take the time to ask workers about me that know me you will find that you might want to rethink your opinion of me and my respect for the workers and the biz.You might also learn a few other things as well.Again my words are aimed at no one else but who they were said toward.

 
Posted by Wallabee Joe on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 5:39 AM
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The Cyberpunk Jason Alex Gage
jason gage

 
Wallobee, You are one of my absolute best friends in the entire world and my brother in life. No one is more proud of your accomplishments than me .Everything you got from this business , you earned though hard work and perciverence and you did it all yourself.Although you compromised you never sold out your beliefs ,just know whatever happens ,I got your back ,brother.

 
Posted by The Cyberpunk Jason Alex Gage on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 7:31 PM
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"SUPERSTAR" JOHNNY ATLAS

 
WOW!!!!
 
Posted by "SUPERSTAR" JOHNNY ATLAS on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 2:06 AM
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