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David Benson


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Gender: Male
Status: In a Relationship
Age: 47
Sign: Capricorn

City: London
Country: UK
Signup Date: 4/10/2006

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Thursday, February 28, 2008 

Current mood:Vexed
Category: News and Politics
Tell me if I am being over-sensitive. God knows, I don't want to be anybody's victim. But today I was sitting on the bus flicking through London Lite, one of the free papers, and I came across an article headlined: 'The Costa del crime is to go back in time'.

It is about this BBC series Life on Mars being remade in Spain. The paper printed a column of supposedly hilarious translations of phrases presumably popular from the series. The one that caught my eye was: 'You great, soft, sissy, girly, nancy, French, bender, Man United-supporting poof!' Translated into Spanish! Apart from the bits about Man United and being French, oddly. It reminded me of the worst days of the AIDS scare in the mid-1980s when you would see people on trains reading the most vile gay-hating filth in the tabloids.

There was always going to be a reaction to so-called political correctness and I suppose now the pendulum is swinging firmly back. It is now politically incorrect to object to a gross insult, whether you are female, Muslim, Eastern European, homosexual, old or, worst of all, a 'liberal'.

As one who was recently thrown off BBC Radio London at midnight for saying 'buggery' (a word most commonly used by lawyers) it is all rather dispiriting and perplexing.
Kevin G

 
Here in the U.S. ,Jane Fonda used the term "cunt"on tv,while discussing THE VAGINA MONOLOGUES.

The FCC is fining one of our networks for nudity from 2003 (it's taken that long for them to recover from the shock!) .

Here people are twisting words & yelling so that if you do disagree , you are a sexist, a bigot, or a what have you(the what have yous,however, have registered their complaint in formal terms) .

It reminds me oh so much of the Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy ,where a planet, granted the ability to read each others thoughts, began to babble nonsense so as to prevent anyone know what they were talking about or thinking!

(climbing off my soap box now).
 
Posted by Kevin G on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 8:18 PM
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Lindel Hart / HartYoga
Lindel Hart

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiNLFogZ-5k

Jane Fonda's "inadvertent" use of the word "cunt". It's the name of the monologue, for crying out loud. Reminds me of when I was in Penny Arcade's very successful and popular show in NYC, "Bitch! Dyke! Faghag! Whore!" and the New York Times refused to print the title of the show in its listings section. They eventually referred to it by its tagline, "The Penny Arcade Sex and Censhorship Show". Of course, when we toured Europe, the press had no issue with the show's title. Hmmmmm.
 
Posted by Lindel Hart / HartYoga on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 7:34 PM
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David Benson
David Benson

 
I didn't know that about Jane Fonda - she goes up in my estimation. It's always HOW the words are used that matters. One problem is USA seems to be the fact that people take recourse to lawyers with more alacrity than here. If you can prove you have been offended, you can get money. And isn't it interesting how sex and nudity is far more politically incorrect than extreme violence?
Thanks for writing Kevin.
 
Posted by David Benson on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 9:46 PM
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John

 
Pick up pretty much any paper at the minute David and there seems to be a hatred topic of the week. Asylum Seekers, Europe in General, The War On Terror etc. If anyone raises a counter argument they are labelled as either 'soft' or a 'do-gooder'. Only last night I was watching This Week with Andrew Neil and they had the editor of The Sun on. He was banging on about the country clammering for the return of the death penalty as 99% of a Sun Poll had agreed.

I hardly think that 99% of a Sun poll represents the majority of the country.

An interesting topic you've brought up.
 
Posted by John on Friday, February 29, 2008 - 2:25 PM
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Pete

 
This is an interesting topic, I agree.
As far as I know Jane Fonda used the word on an daytime TV show so it was bound to upset people.

In my opinion some people are allowed to be un-PC whilst others aren't. If you are one of the "in" comedians you can get away with it.
If you look at the TV show Little Britain and some of it's characters such as Bubbles, Ting Tong and Sebastian to name just a few, despite being sterotypes and being very un-PC, people love them as well as the show and it picks up various awards.
Now think of it this way. The same characters, the same scripts, everything the same but swap Matt and David for Jim Davidson and Bernard Manning or Chubby Brown. Would the public still laugh and find it funny? Would any TV company have the guts to make it, let alone screen it?
Is there anything that Jim, Bernard or Chubby could say that would change the opinion that it's racist, sexist and homophobic?
I've had many a heated discussion about Ricky Gervais. I've been told that "I don't get it" or his humour is "too intellectual" for me to understand. Not at all. I do get his humour and I still don't find it that funny. He is far from being this "comedy genius" that people try and label him as.
He gets away with a lot because he is in vogue at the moment. As does Russell Brand.

You should contact James Whale or Mike Mendoza at Talksport and ask them if they would be interested in talking about this subject and a phone in about it. I doubt either of them would have a probelm with the word buggery.
 
Posted by Pete on Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 7:55 AM
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Jen
Jen Govey

 
As a child I grew up on a varied diet of Carry On's and somehow seemed immune to the sauciness. I watch it now and sometimes I wonder how my 5 year old brain perceived it all. I remember desperately wanting to be a Belly Dancer after Carry On Cleo. Ahh the age of innocence! I used to think that buggery was what insects (bugs) did to make baby insects.... Mind you I remember the word gay meaning delightfully bright joyful and happy in my childhood. I remember as the word changed to meaning homosexual in the late seventies and my mum telling our family doctor that he was looking very gay that day in his brightly coloured tie - my mum was meaning jolly and our GP was thinking my mum thought him as gay as like John Inman. Some one on YouTube left me a comment saying 'you're so gay' the other day and I still can't work out if I'm supposed to be offended or complimented. Yeah. Perplexed. I'm not sure what it means these days. Guess I'll be back on www.urbandictionary.com or maybe I will just make up my own meaning. I'm inclined it could be that I'm so bright, bubbly and stylish! ;) It's funny how words and awareness change meaning as time goes on and the meaning we ourselves place upon words.

I think my only issue is when any word is used to be negative about our fellow humans and it is used knowing to be derogatory. There definitely needs to be more loving in the world today and more positive support and interaction with our fellow humans. :)

Love Jen x

p.s. You got thrown off the BBC for buggery? Hehehehehe Those insects at it again! ;)
 
Posted by Jen on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 10:46 PM
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