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Country: CA
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Friday, May 23, 2008 

The Ottawa Citizen editors have decided to do a cheap attack on our image and music:

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/editorials/story.html?id=872ecdf6-12ca-4ac3-b857-daa237bf7c54

here is the SxPx editorial reply.  let's see if they have the gumption to print it.

Dear Editors,

It is no surprise that establishmentarians like yourselves object to our band's art work and political principles. We believe that individuals who feel the paranoid "War on Terror" security establishement has become a self-perpetuating, overzealous, violent enterprise would strongly disagree with your conclusions.

To be clear, The Suicide Pilots band logo and song lyrics do not "celebrate terrorism," as your armchair editorialists suggest. Rather, such lyrics allude to the rise of neo-Conservatism in this country and the consequences for civil liberties. There have recently been countless examples of this current government attempting to squelch dissent. We are pointing out how the state calls its own violence law, but calls the deviance of individuals 'crime' or 'terror'. Such a 'love it or leave it' attitude by the editorialists serves a mystifying function, insofar as their trial by media comments comprise an individualizing discourse unable to account for state violence and the corporate media's complicity therein. We are not "celebrating terrorism," but we are very much empathetic towards those who have been poached and tortured in this phony "War on Terror" by Canadian as well as American security and intelligence agencies. Only organized resistance to the violence of the state -- its security certificates, its deportations, its secret trials, its renditions, its detentions – will suffice as a real challenge.

The 'love it or leave it' attitude by the editorialists denies the possibilities of politics beyond state sovereignty and negates the lives of those who participate in such struggle. It eschews the racialized violence that has been perpetrated upon the bodies of innocent people caught up in this "War". That the editorialists are unable to allow space for alternative political positions shows how it is their position that is "crude" and "cheap". This pro-government sentiment, that you so gladly articulate at the expense of more intellectually honest treatment of our politics, is but another example of the Citizen's hypocricy.

You re-act with outrage towards our symbolic references. Where was your outraged editorial when the Conservatives tarred all those critical of Israel's foreign policy as anti-semites? If you wish to discuss crude invocations of tradgedy for petty political gains, you missed a sterling opportunity provided by the current masters of hyperbole and spin themselves. Shame. Perhaps the Citizen should focus their scrutiny on those abusing power.

Signed collectively,
The Suicide Pilots


Eoin

 
Really wanna piss off the Harper-crites? change the name of your band to Vic Toews' Love Child. (This will prolly incite a lawsuit since Toews loves no one but himself.) But it would be woerth it to see him go that special colour of purple when somebody dares to diss the almighty Vicster. To say nothinhg about eh reaction from Fat Steve. Good on you for daring t5o have a sense of humour. God knows the Harper-crites could use one
 
Posted by Eoin on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 5:32 PM
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Fear and Loathing in Ottawa
A. Franklin

 
Why wouldn't the Citizen print your response, it's not as if they don't print opposing views to their editorials. Was this even submitted to the Letters section of the paper? Besides, I thought the Suicide Pilots didn't want people to notice them anymore. Why scream about not being heard if you don't want media attention? You can't have it both ways.
 
Posted by Fear and Loathing in Ottawa on Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 4:23 PM
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The Suicide Pilots

 
we normally dont reply to idiots that dont get their facts straight before typying away on their little computers but, since your comment is unfortunately polluting on our site, we may as well address your mundane and incredibly anti-creative comment (yes, you're the anti-thesis of creative thought... a six year could have opined this nonsense) . and, since you're obviously a moron, we'll keep it (kinda)short:

-first of all, the letter did print... maybe you want to check something called "dates". it's called linear time, asshole. this is an old blog and you posted the comment more than a week after the letter went to print (and two weeks after the blog). again, get your facts right before shooting off your keyboard.

-second, you actually wrote: "i thought the suicide pilots didnt want people to notice them anymore"???? are you serious??? this is possibly the most asinine thing we've ever been slagged with. think about it: we are artists, we play shows all the time, we just put out our own disk, we're quite active in ottawa in many public ways, etc. etc. use your brain! and for the record, we do interviews every time we've been asked by INDEPENDENT – i.e. not corporate – journalists (and we've done many... try getting your news outside of the citizen!).

-lastly, i'm sure your final point sounds very poetic and you probably think you're witty and all, but your comment stinks of some kind of faith in the media telling a fair or balanced story (it also stinks of hollow rhetoric... it's just a cliche slogan and, if you would have actually thought about it, makes no sense in the current context... what “two sides” are there!!!). moreso, do you believe what you read in newspapers!!!!!!?!??! if anything, the media should lead one to ask more questions. if you think it's given you the answers you're not worth a minute more of our time. So, please: get your facts straight, use your brain and question 'truths' that you hear in the corporate media, and stop posting mundane, factually incorrect, and horribly post-dated material on our site. thanks, -sp.
 
Posted by The Suicide Pilots on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 1:48 PM
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Fear and Loathing in Ottawa
A. Franklin

 
A band that takes itself as seriously as you do deserves an immediate response...

1) I never doubted the Citizen would publish your letter, I questioned whether your response was ever submitted, or if this was another of the stunts you guys do to get attention and to appear edgy. Now that it's been published (what a surprise), and you're still acting as if the Citizen was too afraid to print your response, looks like I was right. Way to mislead the public for your own gain.

2) Considering how at least one of your band members complains whenever the band gets the attention you claim to want, but runs away from when you're under the microscope longer than you're comfortable with, I think what I said is pretty accurate. Don't rely solely on shock value to promote yourselves if you can't, or won't, take the bad with the good publicity.

3) I questioned your 'truths' about your response to the newspaper, and what do I get? Whining about how unfair the media is, and rants about how corporate forces are conspiring against you. Except that's not the case here. The reason you're bitching about the Citizen piece and my post is that we don't think you're the victims you think you are. Fight the power, and rage against the machine all you want, but stop acting like you're being oppressed when people don't see things the same way you do. Or at least have the courage of your convictions and stop downplaying the rebellious image you're trying to project whenever the shit hits the fan.
 
Posted by Fear and Loathing in Ottawa on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:10 PM
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The Suicide Pilots

 
A podcaster that takes themselves as seriously as you do deserves an immediate response:

Blah blah blah blah.
Stop posting on our site.
 
Posted by The Suicide Pilots on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 2:35 PM
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The John Punch Band

 
....someone missed the boat on this one.


Sure am missing the Rise Up on Mondays.
But I guess thats being selfish.

Hope you folks have a rockin good time in Kitchener tonight!



cory
 
Posted by The John Punch Band on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 8:48 PM
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Spades High Productions

 
Wow, is pretty much what I can say about this.

The fact that a newspaper actually had nothing better to do than indulge in mindless attempts to shine a bad lime light on a band who wants nothing more than to just have a better fucking government.

I do believe that we once had a right to speak our minds (whether it be for, or against) about ideals, morals, government, racism, treatment.. etc.

"Misguided young man"? Are you kidding me? You are now "misguided" because you have your own beliefs against the cruel and rude conservatives who are doing nothing for our country, and causing more problems and hassles than the liberals ever did.

I'm with you guys on this one. All the way. Steven Harper is an idiot. Plain and simple. Just because you have a sketch of a plane going into the parliament buildings does not mean you support what happened at 9/11.
Especially with all the nonsense that happened with that. The lies, the cover-ups, just the bullshit.
That'd be proof of another corrupt government. Canada didn't back the US when they went into Iraq, so how can they whine and moan about people "supporting the 9/11 attacks". If anything, our government is. They didn't go to war for it. They didn't care.

I figured that Ottawa was more protective of the government of Canada, based solely on the fact that the parliament buildings are in fact, well, in Ottawa. But they've gone a bit too far with this one.

Did they have anything to say against your response?
 
Posted by Spades High Productions on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:32 AM
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The Suicide Pilots

 
You mean did the Ottawa Shitizen have anything to say against our response? Hellz no... What could they say? "We fucked up and wrote a lame fucking article?" That'd be nice, but no cigar. We should thank them for trying to forward an argument that had absolutely no legs to stand on. It exposes them as the cheap assholes that they are, actively ignoring abuses perpetrated by the rich and powerful, and condemning folks who think the status quo is bullshit. Not like that should come as a surprise. The status quo is what keeps rich people doing what they love to do best: Nothing!

Yours truly,

P. Pants.
 
Posted by The Suicide Pilots on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 11:46 AM
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Fear and Loathing in Ottawa
A. Franklin

 
Speaking of things that have absolutely no legs to stand on, how did Bones' civil suit against the RCMP for arresting him after he broke the law go?
 
Posted by Fear and Loathing in Ottawa on Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 7:08 PM
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