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Status: Solteiro
Cidade: Dublin
País: IE
Data de Inscrição: 17/4/2006
quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 

MY ROCK’N’ROLL SKOOL


I've been looking at the website of one of these rock schools where you take courses in how to be a performer.  Maybe it works for some people but that kinda thing wouldn't have drawn me at the age 16.  Rock + school just don't mix.  So I think I'll start my own ALTERNATIVE ROCK'N'ROLL SKOOL.  Courses to include:

 

1. How to dress like a proper fucking rock'n'roll star (rule one: dress the same offstage as onstage. And I mean dress offstage like you would ON, not on like you would off)

 

2. How to choose a musical instrument (it's the way it looks, stupid!)

 

3. How to write HOOKS. (If your songs ain't got 'em, get another job)

 

4. How to play your instrument not with your head or fingers BUT WITH YOUR LIFE

 

5. How to confound your audience's expectations

 

6. How to creatively joust with the mysterious race of beings known as ROCK JOURNALISTS

 

7. The lore and evolution of rock'n'roll (and how not to GO BACKWARDS. Rolling Stone magazine take note)

 

8. The occult science of the killer song intro  

 

9. The occult science of the extended outro (rule one: earn it by preceding it with a disciplined and economic song arrangement)

 

10. How to get people to do things for you (eg take care of the money stuff) without surrendering your power or authority to them


I'm taking applicants now. Send a stamped undressed elephant to Mick Puck, Dublinjungle™, Hibernia.

    

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heather

 
ENTERTAINING! (is that not at least part of the point?) and perhaps a bit revealing...thanks Mike!

 
Postado por heather em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 6:13
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Raymond
Raymond Gregan

 
Will there be a grant to help students pay for their fees at this Alternative Rock'nRoll school? The government is bust, where will the money come from?  Will the EC*  give us funding if we decline the Lisborn Treaty a second time? Must we finally spend our Holy Communion money to pay for our rock education?

* God be with the days when it was the EEC. Good times.

 
Postado por Raymond em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 6:15
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DrSpookster
Spook Lucas

 
Spot on the money, but my opinion doesn't really count 'cos ya know me too well!  Signing from the same hymn book!
 
Postado por DrSpookster em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 6:27
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Norway's bravest son

 
Sign me in. Sorry, but my favourite elephant doesn't like to go by mail undressed, so I sent my undressed hippo instead(There isn't any clothes that suits him -well the big problem is getting him into the dressing room..). OK?
 
Postado por Norway's bravest son em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 6:30
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The Trestles

 
 wonderful.
and couldn't be more true...
"play your instrument with your life"
Amen to that
 
Postado por The Trestles em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 6:49
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saraHarken

 

Hello again Magic Rat.

Indulge me, as this will take up a bit of space on you r comments -  but I hope it will give you a laugh.

Rock and Roll

Rock and Roll is about played out.

We’re all still feedin’ off the bloated corpse

-          of a fallen faded Pop Star in Blue Suede Shoes

who told us, “Rock and Roll will never die”, but he stole that from the Blues!

 

(Ooh-la-la, Sha-la-la, Rock and Roll will never die.)

 

Rock and Roll, how’d you get so tricked out?

Such a bubble-gum girl with your Pink Cadillac and your Prima Dona pout.

Yeah, we sold you to the Japanese, and look at what they did -

They turned you into Animae, and sold you to our kids!

 

They’re singin’ “Ooh-la-la, Sha-la-la, Rock and Roll will never die.”

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

Ooh-la-la, Sha-la-la, Rock and Roll will never die.

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

 

And meanwhile at the nursing home, they’re playing “Like a Rolling Stone”

And some old guy keeps tellin’ me, “People all got to be free.”

But look here man, I ain’t got no back-up plan.  I’ve got to kiss your ass to keep this job, - and ‘git on back to school.

I’m gonna hit the books and stay clean cut.  Lord KNOWS it’s so uncool!

 

But I keep singin’ “Ooh-la-la, Sha-la-la, Rock and Roll will never die.”

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

I said, “Ooh-la-la, Sha-la-la, Rock and Roll will never die.”

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

 

See, the last Free Ride left and hour ago

And the same four chords won’t save the world ANYMORE!

Oh, but Jesus save, Confucius buys, Dick Cheney withdraws!

-          and Rock and Roll is goin’ deaf from the SOUND OF THEIR APPLAUSE!

 

They’re singin’ it, “Ooh-la-la, Sha-la, Rock and Roll will never die.”

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

Keep singin’ it, “Ooh-la-la, Sha-la, Rock and Roll will never die.”

….he just goes to sleep sometimes.

 

Yeah. Once a movement starts setting up ‘schools’ you have to wonder if the movement is in decline, especially in the arts.  And though I’d love to attend yer “Sckhule of Rach” I have to plead poverty. I can’t afford an undressed Elephant. But I hear the School of Hard Knocks is still open.

-          Sara


 
Postado por saraHarken em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 7:13
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Moongazer

 
WTF!
 
Postado por Moongazer em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 1:25
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saraHarken

 
Do you mean "What the f--K"? Is this good or bad? It's meant to be silly, in agreement w/Prof. Puck's assertion that rocksters must NOT take themselves TOO seriously. But this is no 'poem'. It's journal entries spanning the years '93 to '03. (the rhymes are accidental)
 
Postado por saraHarken em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 6:01
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david
David Piwonski

 
Yes, he does. Yes, it's probably bad.

 
Postado por david em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 7:41
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david
David Piwonski

 
UUHHMM....That is...if he's a he. But, if he's a she...well then that could be  A whole nuther kettle o' fish.

 
Postado por david em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 7:45
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saraHarken

 
please see my reply to Moongazer - but QUICKLY before the old Magic Rat turns his head and sees us. I hear he's pretty strict.
 
Postado por saraHarken em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 11:38
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Moongazer

 
Wow - I seem to have developed my own sub blog- no rudeness just found Sara's entry a bit mind blowing on a hungover Sunday morning! I am a guy by the way. What woman would use such bad alphabet as WTF!? Peace.

 
Postado por Moongazer em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 8:07
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david
David Piwonski

 
Only A real man.........like Paige !!

 
Postado por david em segunda-feira, outubro 05, 2009 - 1:01
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david
David Piwonski

 
It is quite allright to be rude there moon geezer...after all how would we know sweet and cool if it were not for rude ?

Its all in good fun.

I'm quite sure Paige is pissed at me now  though

Question...do you think dis heer teechir will really care about our edge-a-macation ? or.....

 all in all...

are we just bricks ?

God, I've absolutely nothing to do !!!

 
Postado por david em segunda-feira, outubro 05, 2009 - 1:10
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saraHarken

 
hey, we'd better can it QUICK, 'fore ol' Proffessor Puck busts us all out for passing notes in his class! But I supose hung over on a Sunday morning is the very BEST way to experience my scribblings. Salud!
 
Postado por saraHarken em domingo, outubro 04, 2009 - 11:35
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david
David Piwonski

 
JAYSUS !!!

 
Postado por david em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 12:53
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saraHarken

 
as in "Jay-sus Sae-yuvs-uh!"? Yeah. Just glad if this made you laugh.
 
Postado por saraHarken em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 4:01
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david
David Piwonski

 
No, I'm not a christian...I do thank you for  the chuckle...Sincerely...David

 
Postado por david em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 3:42
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saraHarken

 
no, I didn't assume you're a Christian - was commenting on your "Southern-Fried" spelling of "JAYSUS". Thought it was cute, but I'm in Texas, the gaudy brass buckle of the 'bible-belt'. God save me! (And personally, I could be more of a Christian if it could be LESS of a religion.) Anyway, Salud!
 
Postado por saraHarken em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 7:12
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will

 
I think this a great idea but only if the band all use Rickenbackers and learn how to play their instruments by learning to play by listening solely to the Beatles "Please Please Me" and Johnny Thunder and the Heartbreakers "L.A.M.F" as their Rock Lesson tutoring books.  Yours Wislon Wilson of the Hotspur.
 
Postado por will em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 7:19
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Mark Dignam

 
I'm going to refer so many people to this course...! And I will myself be signing up for module 10 and of course, going busking to pay for it!

Important question... will there be lunch?

All the best,
mark

 
Postado por Mark Dignam em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 7:29
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Stevo Music Man

 
Don't think any skool could help me - i'd be institutionalised no doubt by it


 
Postado por Stevo Music Man em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 7:38
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Llisa

 
My 14 yr old son would sign up for your "skool" in a heartbeat.....thanks for sharing=)

 
Postado por Llisa em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 7:40
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Ali Wilson / B.A.Wilson

 
Amen to that Mike
In our day there was no such thing as Rock Schools and we were all the better for it.
At Jinglin' Geordies the music department only ever had a piano, two timpani, a snare drum and a double bass and a bassoon. Nevertheless we still managed to play All The Young Dudes on 'em back in '72.
I've always hated regimented music Grades and the like and there are Rock School courses available everywhere...instead, kids should just open their hearts and minds (and ears) and play what they feel dammit!
Did Wickham or Carlos have to show you their certificates of musical competence when they joined the WB's, I think not!
As uncle Alice said,"Skool's out...for ever"!

 
Postado por Ali Wilson / B.A.Wilson em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 8:01
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R_P_M

 
All very salient points, thanks for the chuckle Mike.

 
Postado por R_P_M em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 8:06
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wordscryer

 
YES to all and I totally agree with #1: LOOK LIKE YOU MEAN IT!!!

 
Postado por wordscryer em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 8:11
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Paige
Paigey O'Neill

 
Too right re: Rolling Stone.  Growing up I subscribed and read it cover to cover every month.  Now it's so crap I wouldn't even deign to quickly leaf through it it the bookstore!

PS.  The storage closet here at Waterboys Central is currently alarmingly packed with naked elephants (I'm typing this with my back pressed to the door) and the waiting room is full of 'em too. Also the postman is beginning to complain.

PSS.  Somebody feed Mark Dignam lunch.
 
Postado por Paige em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 8:22
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Mark Dignam

 
LOL...! (Burp...!)
 
Postado por Mark Dignam em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 5:21
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Elena

 
Hola!!
Sounds great, sign me in!!! I'll post the elephant tomorrow. I like module 8, you've made me laugh. I can teach you flamenco dance in exchange

Elenaxxxx

(this year the Etnohelmántica hasn't been so good)

 
Postado por Elena em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 8:26
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Agnes

 
Giggling because of point 8 particularly :-)
Yes, these times world is targeted on school training in absolutely every subject, which tends to be ridiculous in cases like this, let's say.. poetry writing courses (!)
It's something elusive, spontaneous, for god's sake, uniqueness, mystery so hard to define..

 
Postado por Agnes em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 9:52
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Redder Freak

 
I'm in

 
Postado por Redder Freak em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 10:22
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CHRIS TAYLOR

 
how much does it cost to take these classes?  I'm up for it.  Open up a school in San Antonio, TX.  No one would EVER expect that here!  I might even like to teach a class myself!
 
Postado por CHRIS TAYLOR em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 10:38
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donald

 
It's a rare pleasure indeed to hear a band where all the members are able to meet the standard set in #4 , but when you do..... the band seem to form a private mental connection and play as one , not as a group of individuals, however talented those individuals may be.
There aren't many such bands & I treasure them all.
Mike I think you need to put your school somewhere difficult to get to, so only the truly comitted make it to your door, perhaps St Kilda ?
ATB
Donald
 
Postado por donald em quarta-feira, setembro 30, 2009 - 11:21
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Vassily K.

 
The last course is undoubtedly most essential
 
Postado por Vassily K. em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 5:58
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Mike & Joolz
Mike Joolz

 
I wouldn't sign up for anyone that called their school 'skool' ~ smacks of getting down with the kids
 
Postado por Mike & Joolz em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 6:17
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Ali Wilson / B.A.Wilson

 
Dear Sir,
After much deliberation I have decided to put myself forward for your ARS (?) course.
At present I am finding it hard to lay my hands on a Stamped Undressed Elephant so was wondering if a Damp Depressed Antelope would be an acceptable alternative?
Yours faithfully,
Alistair Wilson.

PS I intend to be an unruly student and anticipate many hours of detention and doing of lines...that's punishment lines and not Cocaine.

 
Postado por Ali Wilson / B.A.Wilson em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 6:57
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Emma

 
Want to overhaul art school while ur there?

 
Postado por Emma em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 7:21
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Julia

 
Hope the Rolling Stone magazin WILL take note!!!
- I would join your R&R-skool for sure.
Best wishes from Germany
Julia (trying to find a willing elephant )


 
Postado por Julia em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 7:56
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Maria
Maria Viana

 
Point nº 6 - there are no rock journalists, unless you're a f*cking rock'n'roll star waiting for better days to make a nº 1  hit chart that decides to write for "pseudo" rock magazines, this goes for RS
Never trusted them, they never understand the creative process.
the undressed elephant ran away from the zoo, no stamps available.

 
Postado por Maria em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 9:41
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The Third Chair

 
I agree and disagree. Having being a music journalist, a drummer, a roadie, a songwriter, and a lyricist at certain stages of my life. I so wish i could have gone to some sort of college for support and community. Most young musicians are not lucky enough to be famous  and supported from the age of 18 (Paul Weller etc)  Colleges offer short cuts to understanding the music business and thats a good thing in my book. Even now as i sit studying in glasgow in college (not music) I feel the vibrancy of youth and power around me. excited to be together and creating. Hey they even asked me to play kit for them. 50 years old and I have the honour of playing with 18 Yr olds. How blessed they are to feel my hard earned snare of god and kick of hell.....how lucky I am to be seen as their equal. Much Love....Alan 

 
Postado por The Third Chair em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 12:13
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Wirralgirl

 
Love it
X

 
Postado por Wirralgirl em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 1:58
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HONESTLY EXPRESS YOURSELF

 
The ink's already dry, Nice one Mike!

 
Postado por HONESTLY EXPRESS YOURSELF em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 5:09
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Pete

 
"disciplined and economic song arrangement" from the man who brought us Red Army Blues! LOL
 
Postado por Pete em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 7:19
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Angela Faye Martin

 
where DO i sign up?!  with special interest in points: 6 & 10!  you are a survivor, brother.
 
Postado por Angela Faye Martin em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 7:29
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Matt Sage

 
fucking excellent!
 
Postado por Matt Sage em quinta-feira, outubro 01, 2009 - 11:03
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The Waterboys

 

All right Class, simmer down.  Let's have a look at you.  Hmmm.  I can honestly say you're the brightest set of new pins this teecher has ever had the good fortune to gaze upon.  And I recognise some faces too.  Wilson!  You man the drums over there and every time I make a salient point I want to to hit a KER-CRUNK on the tom toms followed by a loud cymbal smash.  Vassily K, hmm yes, a bit of a troublemaker ain’t ya, but clever with it.  You work the computer over there.  De-frag it please, that’ll keep you occupied for a few semesters.  Sage, Dignam and Honestly-Express-Yourself I want you to take responsibility for any crunching sing-songs we burst into. H-E-Y you can corral the boys and Dignam and Sage I want you to lead the girls, and no mischief now.

 

So, a few of you have your hands up.  “Mike Joolz”..ah yes, the controversy over the use of the word Skool.  Can’t tell if you’ve your tongue in your cheek, boy, under these low stage lights.  If so, take a gold star.  If not, stay behind and see me after SKOOL for detention.  I have 50 episodes of the Beano comic’s Bash Street Kids strip for you to read in an attempt to reverse your sense of humour bypass.

 

And Pete, making a point about Red Army Blues.  Hmm, yes.  Well Red Army Blues isn’t a song with an extended outro, so I don’t quite see the point here, though you’re obviously enjoying yourself.  Nor is it an uneconomic arrangement.  I’ve got a rock’rnoll equivalent of a dunce cap for you to wear for the rest of the day.  Yes…it’s a high strapped Spandau Ballet bass guitar that hangs an inch below your adam’s apple and makes you look like a complete plonker. 

 

Harken, have you finished reciting that very very long poem yet?   OK now listen to three hours worth of DOO-WOP. 

 

The rest of you, hang loose. I got a record for you to listen to.  This is what rock’n’roll is.  Stevo Music Man, prepare the gramophone.  Let me get this little 7” vinyl motherfucker out of its original 1968 Decca single sleeve with its blue and white spiral pattern….ah…that fuzzy acoustic guitar, the thrumm of the bass, the metronomical crack of Charlie’s drums, and the voice of old louche himself…

 

I WAS BORRRN IN A CROSS-FIIIRE HURRICANE

And AH HOWWWWLED AT MAH MAW IN THE DRIIVIN RAIN
 
Postado por The Waterboys em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 11:57
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saraHarken

 
AWH GEE Thanks, Teach! 'Bright new pins' indeed! You manage to put almost all of us in our place - and so easily, too. You're no cool, laid-back  '60's kind of prof, but I hear 'skool' is tougher in the UK, and maybe even in Hibernia, too. Still, Ill DO your assignment, and ENJOY it, jua to spite you! - Harken
 
Postado por saraHarken em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 3:37
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The Waterboys

 
he he :-)
 
Postado por The Waterboys em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 4:17
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Pete

 
Oh no one day in & I'm in the corner with the dunces cap on already. Skool is rather more like school than I had hoped for :-(

Please sir, whats an outro? I just re-checked Red Army Blues on my trusty ipod & it seems to have 1 minute and a half out of 8 mins after the last line. In my memory of hearing it in many gigs it goes on longer. What am I missing? How bad was my muzak edikashun before I got to Real Skool?

Sadly I didn't need the Spandau ballet guitar/dunces cap to look a plonker. But hey if get to play base in the Mike Scott RockNRoll Skool band I'm a happy geezer. Do I have to don an 80s Spandau Ballet mullet as well? I think that might constitute cruel & unusual punishment....

Clearly Mike you are highly suited to being a teacher!
 
Postado por Pete em sexta-feira, outubro 02, 2009 - 1:18
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The Waterboys

 
An extended outro, student Pete, is one which lasts almost as long as the rest of the song - or even longer in some cases, and which is either an anthemic sing-along expression of the song's essence, or a sustained groove.  Examples, most or all of which I'm sure you'll know, would be: Hey Jude (the quintessential extended outro), T. Rex's Hot Love, G. Harrison's Isn't It A Pity, The Stones Can't Always Get What You Want, Alex Harvey Band's Anthem, Dave Clark 5's Everybody Get Together, Bowie's Somebody Up There Likes Me, Van Morrison's Listen To The Lion, Neil Young's Like A Hurricane.  Waterboys songs I'd class as having 'extended outros' would be She Tried To Hold Me, All The Things She Gave Me (unedited version on the remaster), Strange Boat (the alternative version currently on the myspace player), Lonesome Old Wind, My Love Is My Rock In The Weary Land & Crown.  Red Army Blues is a long outro but it's in several short sections, rather than an anthemic build or a sustained groove, and the song itself is so long the outro isn't a particularly significant part of it :-)

Can you or anyone suggest any other extended outros?

 
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