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James Brown


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Gender: Male
Status: Married
Age: 28
Sign: Gemini

City: Milford
State: Auckland
Country: NZ
Signup Date: 4/18/2006
Friday, March 20, 2009 

Category: Religion and Philosophy
I used to quite like the idea of the UN, that was until they tried to deny me the right to my most treasured pastime; criticising religion.

It's been in the works for a while, with a coalition of Islamic "voices", led by Saudi Arabia, lobbying the UN since 1999 against freedom of expression regarding Islam, but over the past year the UN Rapporteur, supposed defender of freedom of expression has been warming to the idea of taping the collective free world's mouth. A storm in a teacup has been brewing over this lately most notably concerning an article by Johann Hari, columnist for The Independent, questioning the UN Rapporteur "Why should I respect these oppressive religions?" on 28 January 2009:

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights stated 60 years ago that "a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief is the highest aspiration of the common people". It was a Magna Carta for mankind – and loathed by every human rights abuser on earth. Today, the Chinese dictatorship calls it "Western", Robert Mugabe calls it "colonialist", and Dick Cheney calls it "outdated". The countries of the world have chronically failed to meet it – but the document has been held up by the United Nations as the ultimate standard against which to check ourselves. Until now.

Subsequently the article was reprinted by an Indian Newspaper; The Statesman, resulting in mass riots and the imprisonment of both the editor and publisher. Johann Hari has been told that he too will be imprisoned if he visits Calcutta. He has written a follow up article entitled Despite these riots, I stand by what I wrote in which he annunciates the opposition's argument:

A typical supporter of the riots, Abdus Subhan, said he was "prepared to lay down his life, if necessary, to protect the honour of the Prophet" and I should be sent "to hell if he chooses not to respect any religion or religious symbol? He has no liberty to vilify or blaspheme any religion or its icons on grounds of freedom of speech."

For commentaries on this check out Pat Condell's Rant on the subject or Lou Dobbs interviewing Christopher Hitchens on CNN.

Pat has an interesting idea, and that is to make a religion of free speech itself, and in doing so enshrine your free comments in the uncriticisable terms of religion. Lets hope no psychopaths decide to enshrine their beliefs in support of racism, mass murder, enslavement of women, oppression and genital mutilation in terms of a religion... then we're all in trouble.
Jo-na-th-an

 
This was a good nutshell of what is going on with all of this.




It's sad when people restrict others from criticizing their beliefs, yet religious people are usually the ones condemning people from other religious faiths and those with no religious persuasion at all. It's all twisted up and backwards. Lately, whenever I read a religious person's blog and I post an argument against whatever they have to say, someone always comes on just to call me a false teacher that needs to be marked and monitored, lol. It's hilarious.









 
Posted by Jo-na-th-an on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 3:54 AM
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James Brown
James Brown

 
"Marked and monitored" that sounds pretty serious!!!



I don't think I've ever come up against anything like that! I guess usually I cut off conversation with nutters before I really know what they believe / not-believe. A "false teacher" classic rhetoric. The whole free speech thing is way too unpopular with americans for it to get away on us. If there is a national religion in america "free speech" would probably be it.

 
Posted by James Brown on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 7:21 AM
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Nate
Nathan Padilla

 
This should be a joke, but it's not. We have to understand that democracies like ours are still few. Criticizing religion has been going on for years and no matter what law is put into place it will continue. The fact that cheney, someone that was elected by the people into office, would say that the Magna Carta is "outdated", tells me that things can slip by us. How many people are truly paying attention to this stuff, compared to the octomom? It seems funny, but it's the truth. Thanks Jonathan for posting this and keep it up! I think you should be "marked and monitored" for informing us of our freedoms as human beings.






By the way, I noticed hitchens in there. He is a nut, but a smart one at that. Saw him tear Sean Hannity a new one.
Classic!
 
Posted by Nate on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 8:22 AM
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James Brown
James Brown

 
Yeah, big thanks to Jonathan for posting the bulletin! It appears I need the help of someone with more friends...



Thanks for your comments. It does seem funny, and thankfully the UN seems to be taken less and less seriously in general, which is good news if they're heading in the direction of censorship. Nice of you to say that Hitchens is a smart nut, some people may disagree with him but no one ever says he's an idiot, that's an admirable quality I think.

 
Posted by James Brown on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:09 PM
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Ginger
Ginger Campbell

 
James,



Thanks for making me aware of this important issue.

 
Posted by Ginger on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:51 PM
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