It's to bad that Palin and McCain are a package deal because I refuse to vote for McCain. The last thing this country needs is another "Bush" for four more years..NO THANK YOU!
 

You shouldn't judge McCain according to how Bush ran the country. If any other president had to go through what Bush did, everyone would hate him for his decisions too. McCain would have made a FANTASTIC president, he just couldn't sway the country into his perspective of things, everyone is too brainwashed.

 

well I my self wished mccain and palin won it because of what they stood for and that was good and not something that would kill babys and allow an abomination to happen. .obama ia for abortion and homosexual marriages and i say no to both but Gods in control and we are praying for God to save obama. i am also praying for the homosexuals and the ones who commit abortion because they have a soul but i dont like the sin.

 

buttercup I respect you, please read my reply to Gordon
 

MISS MANDA MARIE,

I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT, I FEEL THAT YOU ARE A VERY SMART PERSON WHO HAS BEEN DECEIVED BY THE LIBERAL MEDIA. SARAH PALIN IS A VERY "GODLY" WOMEN WHO DESERVE TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. NOW YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT JUST BECAUSE McCAIN IS A REPUBLICAN HE IS NOTHING LIKE OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT "GEORGE W. BUSH".


WE LIVE IN SOME TROUBLING TIMES AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT SARAH PALIN FOR A BETTER AND SAFER AMERICA.



I PRAY AND HOPE YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE AND NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!


GOD BLESS YOU,

DRG
 

A) McCain will NOT be just like Bush - that is a lie that the liberals are spewing and B) O'Bama was raised Muslim, spent 20 years listening to messages from a man who claims to follow black liberation theology - which has at it's core the belief that the black man must kill his white suppressors for "change" to occur for the black man.
O'Bama refuses to where an American flag pendant and he changes his stance as much as Kerry did - showing that he is wishy-washy!

If you like Palin, then why can't you see that McCain will be a difference maker because why would he bring her on board and why would she consent?
 

amen to that!
 

politics make people mean.

cant we all just love eachother??:/
 

sara never have I heard a better answer than that. Politics does show truth about people. We need to love each other as God would have us.
Thank you sara for showing sanity with this situation which is insane
 

READ MY BLOGS TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW POLITICALLY!
 

If all it took to sustain our freedoms and fight injustice was a hug and kiss we would do it! We're trying hard to walk the line Sara, last week we loved people and babies with cupcakes! But if no one will be a voice our ability to love others in the public world will become a crime and voice will be taken from us.
 

In truth that is all that we need to do, as long as we have God's love spewing from us he will be the one who will be doing the justice. Remember that we are his people. God can make anything happen. Jesus said "all you need is the faith of a mustard seed and you can tell a mountain to move and it will move, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE" This is when the disciples could not take out the demon from a girl and Jesus called them "Faithless". My brothers and sisters in christ, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS WE HAVE CHRIST!!!!!!!! BELIEVE MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS THIS IS NOT A LIE, WE CAN LIVE WITH PEACE, WITH LOVE, WITH COMPASSION, WE CAN TRULY LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS WE LOVE OURSELVES!!!!!! Pray, Read, Listen, Do. This is what we must be doing constantly. If one of us falls we pick them up and sharpen their sword as it says in the bible "we must sharpen each others swords" I see no support to people who love christ from the people who love christ. We have felt his love we can not just hold it in. We have to spread it.
Let me say that Christ did not come here to create a religion, he came here to change everyone's life!!!!! I am not a christian, I am a follower of Christ Jesus who has saved my life and opened my eyes!!!! Christ is not my religion, he is my life!!!!!! LIVE IT!!!
 

In truth that is all that we need to do, as long as we have God's love spewing from us he will be the one who will be doing the justice. Remember that we are his people. God can make anything happen. Jesus said "all you need is the faith of a mustard seed and you can tell a mountain to move and it will move, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE" This is when the disciples could not take out the demon from a girl and Jesus called them "Faithless". My brothers and sisters in christ, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS WE HAVE CHRIST!!!!!!!! BELIEVE MY SISTERS AND BROTHERS THIS IS NOT A LIE, WE CAN LIVE WITH PEACE, WITH LOVE, WITH COMPASSION, WE CAN TRULY LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS WE LOVE OURSELVES!!!!!! Pray, Read, Listen, Do. This is what we must be doing constantly. If one of us falls we pick them up and sharpen their sword as it says in the bible "we must sharpen each others swords" I see no support to people who love christ from the people who love christ. We have felt his love we can not just hold it in. We have to spread it.
Let me say that Christ did not come here to create a religion, he came here to change everyone's life!!!!! I am not a christian, I am a follower of Christ Jesus who has saved my life and opened my eyes!!!! Christ is not my religion, he is my life!!!!!! LIVE IT!!!
 

Sara...you're awesome, and I'm honored to call you my friend. God is still God. And whoever's in the presidential office is not going to change that.

 

I love my country too much to be a pacifist. Consider what Christ did to the money changers in the temple. Did He sit down and talk to them.......NO, He acted offensively and kicked them out. We have evil seeking to captivate our country, the time is NOW to 'fight'.

 

To gordon, I respect you gordon, but, this has nothing to do about a country. This country is just a piece of land. It's the exact same thing that the gangsters here in Los Angeles fight for on the street, just for turf. That's all this country is just a part of the earth. Why do you love a piece of land? I agree with you about what Christ did with the money chargers in the temple but, do you think that they knew who Christ really was?? At that time, Christ did not want anyone to know that he was the Son of God, the time wasn't right. It wasn't until after he did this that he came out and more said it that he is the Son of God and that he would rebuild it in 3 days (if I am wrong please tell me, I don't want to be wrong about something so vital). He was offensive, but to the people that we did not expect, the religious leaders, why did he not do that to the whore who was at his feet, or to the roman general (who was killing God's People) who asked for him to heal one of his soldiers? Now is the time to fight, but, it's the way that you fight, we have perfect examples, Gandhi fought the british without fighting, Martin Luther King Jr. changed the entire nation and made everything that was "right" wrong (speaking of course of segregation), Cesar Chavez, let me tell you something that all of these men have in common, they were all inspired by Jesus Christ and they were more like what we should be. Gandhi has a famous qoute saying "I will become a christian once I have met one". Think smart about how we fight. In case many of you have guessed I am not a very patriotic person. Don't get me wrong that I am grateful for my rights and stuff, but, I will not die for a piece of land. The church is not a building it is us. The land is not america, it's us. People if you are going to "fight". Do it smartly, do it with the right spirit, do it with God in your hearts. Brothers...Sisters, through acts of kindness is how we make relationships. I don't think you would listen to a absolute stranger who is trying to tell you about God, but, once you met the stranger, once you know the stranger, once you trust the stranger, is when you will listen. I will listen to what my friends have to say. I have to say that I am thankful that even though I have a number of friends who are not saved, that they have come to me for advice, they have come to me for help, they have come to my church for help. God speaks through me as much as he speaks to any other brother and sister of christ, you have to listen, you have to read, you have to act on it. We have a thing at my church called 'Project Love' it is a amazing ministry. We go out and we pay for people's laundry, give skaters water, feed the seniors of our community. This is not evangelical, this is to make relationships, through the relationship is how people begin to open their minds and see what they could not see, Fight by fighting for those who were thrown away, for those who are not cared for, for those who have never been told by their parents "I Love You". We need these broken hearts. Be a christ follower, not a christian. People say that there is no difference, trust me there is. A christian (people see) is a person who wears a mask to church and when he's done with church he comes out and takes off his mask, he looks ugly, and does the things he swore not to do 5 sec. before. A christ follower has a relationship with God, he listen, he reads, meditates, puts reading into motion, brothers and sisters this is not a new religion of any sorts, this is a way of life. I agree Gordon, now is the time to fight, but, do it with christ love, 1 corinthians it talks about love, the author was saying that he could have all of the spiritual gifts, but without love, he may as well be silent.
God is love, God is what we need
 

Im with you Sara

Politics always tear Churches and its people apart :(
 

No Fite, politics DO NOT tear churches and/or the people of the church apart. First of all, I want to say I respect everyones opinion and I'm saying all of this with respect, but it is human nature to argue and to get what the heart desires. God's word says that the heart makes foolish decisions. It is the individuals fault if they are letting this tear them apart. God created government for a reason. If He wouldn't have wiped out the blood thirsty race and had Noah and his family survive, to lead on a future government, we would all be dead, well not even thought of because that was thousands of years ago.

 

Yeah, politics doesn't do it, and it's just a decision to direct the course of our countries future, and determines freedoms of speech, and our freedom of beliefs and expression!

It determines the future of families!!! Parents and children!

I feel bad for the world children are in now!

Jesus was NOT quiet when it came to perversion and corruption! He did not keep the church in walls, and kept politics separate! He went to people!!!! And he took on the trials of the Pharisees and Sadducees!
 

Yeah, politics doesn't do it, and it's just a decision to direct the course of our countries future, and determines freedoms of speech, and our freedom of beliefs and expression!

It determines the future of families!!! Parents and children!

I feel bad for the world children are in now!

Jesus was NOT quiet when it came to perversion and corruption! He did not keep the church in walls, and kept politics separate! He went to people!!!! And he took on the trials of the Pharisees and Sadducees!
 

You watch too much FOX... Obama does wear a flag pendant. FOX News was exposed over a number of racial lies targeted at the Obama family.


It matters not how a man was raised for were we not all once unsaved? Obama is just as much a Christian as Palin or McCain.. Who are we to JUDGE who is the better Christian???
 

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT....OBAMA IS NOT A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN....THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T WATCH FOX NEWS SHOWS HOW DECEIVED YOU ARE BY THE REST OF THE LIBERAL MEDIA...
 

If obama was a christian then he would stand for a totally different set of morales and issues it is ludacris to beleive that he is as much a christian as anyone else. The Bible says we are judged by our fruit and were is obamas fruit at least palin practices what she preaches. Speakin of preachers do a little research on obamas preacher and se what he has been influenced by for 20+ years. At least palin has attended a church where all the Bible has been preached not just rebelion against america and the white man. So i don't see how anyone can defend or vote for obama if they call themselves Christian knowing the things he supports but however it is our duty to pray for them all equally. It is time we voted based on morals and not the economy nor the job the last president did. Sure bush did a lot of things i do agree with but his morals and character was there and the president is controlled by the house and the senate so he has been limited. All i am asking is to us your judgement to vote for the right reasons.
And remember Jesus himself said not everyone who cries Lord Lord will enter heaven
 

I'm sorry, but it is a lie the enemy wants to use as propaganda to get people to vote for the ways of immorality. There is no way a Christian person would choose to murder a baby in any circumstance-whether at conception, during its first term, or after a failed abortion. It goes against the very word of God.
He says in Psalm 139:
13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.


14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.


15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.

When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.

All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.


If You believe in the Word of God, you know that you, as a human being, are formed in the womb.
Who are we to stop the Lord from creating His wonderful works, the babies that are selfishly being slaughtered on the whims of their mothers?

The reason why Palin is the best bet from keeping our nation grounded and moral is because she will do her best as a woman and as the Vice President of the United States to stop these murders. McCain will follow this reasoning, because it is the will of GOD guiding him, not the will of a nation that is falling rapidly to the enemy. It is time for us to rise up against this spirit of selfishness. Abortion is not the answer. Adoption is. Palin and McCain will stop abortions through the states, and they will promote and encourage adoption.


Instead of shutting down your heart to McCain and Palin, I plead of you to ask what God says on the matter of choosing the right candidate for President.

Even us Republicans need to do that.


Thanks for your time.
:)
God Bless!
 

I don't mean to be offensive at all but, what is a christian?? Mccain supports the death penalty but, he is "pro life". Let me say this God wants us to spread his love, who are we to judge what a christian should be. Read Collosions 3 and it says it in the title of my bible (which is a study bible) what a christian should be. I garuntee that all of us don't follow the word of God the way that we should, I am not saying that abortion is a good thing, it is to be honest a terrible thing. I am very pro life but, I have to admit that there are cases where the girl was raped and she is pregnant by the rapist, is it right?? was it the girls fault that she was raped?? I struggle with these things as much as anyone else. Judge not less you are ready to be judged. PEOPLE WE NEED TO WAKE UP, religion is dividing us, we have so many denominations that a lot of them are completely different from the "christian" beliefs yet they are "christians". As for example the westborough baptist church. They call themselves christians, are you curious as to who they are? Go on youtube type this in and see how they are "spreading" the "love" of God. I say this that it is more of hate than of love. I will not say who I am voting for and you can see my myspace I have not endorsed anyone. So you will not find me "hipocritical". I pray that we as followers of Christ are praying for the next president of the united states. I myself am NOT a patriot, I will say that whoever is going to lead this country will have a hard time.
God Bless everyone
 

What you say is true, no doubt

But honestly, I dont think the leader of our Country should be chosen solely based on where he/she stands with Abortion. OR for that matter, whether or not he/she is even a Christian. I mean sure, I would think that if a true Christian stood as President then he would make a lot of change morally, but he/she would also have to be very knowledgeable in a Political sense.


Plus, it IS possible for a country to be ran by someone who is not a Christian.
Just because someone isnt a Christian doesnt mean they dont know how to run a Country or that theyre not a good person

Again, this is why I rarely discuss Politics with Christians.
They throw in too much of the Bible and ignore what actually matters to this Country :/
 

Sorry sir. But actually our own country was founded on Biblical Principals. The Idea of unalienable rights endowed to us by our Creator. Capital C. God. The people who founded this country were escaping the unjust teachings of the England state church. To put it in a nut shell, our great country was founded upon God. Without God, we would have been blown away in the revolutionary war. I sincerely believe that it is through God our country has survived. WWII shouldn't have been won by the allies. The confederacy almost stole the civil war. Evil almost conquers only to be triumphed by good. I do sincerely believe a christian person should run this nation. Be that christain man or woman, of african or european descent, a Chrisitain president definitely would benefit our country. 90%ish of our past presidents all were christians. Some of the best presidents were devout Christians, such as Abraham Lincoln. Even President Bush is a devout follower of Christ. We shouldn't allow such a man as Obama run this nation if he stands for things such as abortion! Abortion is murder. If Obama stood up and declared he would revoke murder as a felony, would you still vote for him? His platform isn't good. McCain and Palin present a much better and moral platform. Sure they have thier flaws, but what administration is going to be perfect? I tell you as long as the president keeps his sight on God, he will lead this nation to a much much much better day.

 

Mr. Mysterious is absolutely right, you have your facts all mixed up. In fact, I myself quoted quite a few of the founding fathers talking explicitly about how they see know value in modern Christianity and didn't want it to play a part in government a few comments down, there. They were mainly, in fact, deists and not Christians.


And besides that, the founding of this country had absolutely nothing to do with unjust teachings of the Anglican church. The Puritans were the only ones who had problems with those guys, and they were the ones pestering the Anglican church to change, not the other way around. Everyone but the Puritans came over for wealth or opportunity. (Like the London Company, who founded Jamestown; nothing to do with religion at all. Or the indentured servants, who made up the majority of Europeans coming over in the early days. Again, no religious reasons.) and in many places actually kept with Anglican teachings.


Now, by the time the country was founded, there had been colonies over here for over 200 years. After the English won the French and Indian war, English subjects in the colonies still considered themselves fully English all the way up until the Revolution which, AGAIN, had nothing to do with religion whatsoever. It was sparked by issues on taxes and matters of representation, actually.


I'm tired of writing, maybe you should just take a History class sometime.

 

I'm sorry sir, but that is historically incorrect. It is true that the europeans came over here to be free of the church. But, in fact our founding fathers were diests. They did not believe in God. All of them were also free masons. Not only that but, the whole "Under God We Trust" is a turn of the century idea 20th century. If you look at the older coins that were made older than the 1900's (I have seen these) they do not have this saying. I respect you.

 

Also, Obama made a great quote at the last Presidential Debate and told McCain, "Nobody is Pro-Abortion" which I think is quite true. I believe you're either Pro-Life or Pro-CHOICE. There really is no Pro-KillTheBabies.

 

There really is no such thing as "Pro-Choice" when you think about it saying you are "Pro-Choice" is saying you are for abortion. Whether or not you would get one personally is not just being Pro-Choice. If you are ok with the thought of Abortion or if you believe that other people having an Abortion is not a problem then you are Pro-Abortion. People just like to say they are "Pro-Choice" because it sounds better than Pro-Abortion. When you think about it you make choices every day from what you eat, drink, drive, who you talk to, most everything you do is your "choice". The best "choice" anyone could make in my opinion is being Pro-Life.

 

Pro-Choice is in no way saying youre Pro-Abortion. It simply means that you believe its up to the mother to decide what she wants to do with her baby. Just because youre okay with the thought of abortion doesnt make you Pro-Abortion because you are still okay with the woman choosing NOT to abort her baby. So Pro-Choice is simply that, Pro-Choice.


Pro-Abortion to me is someone saying a woman should get an abortion if she wants to, regardless of circumstances, or even taking the time to think about it. Kind of like a "Oh you're a teen and just got pregnant? Well you should have an abortion, its the best thing to do". It just seems to me that Pro-Abortion means parading around saying abortion is the one and only way to go.
Because if Pro-Life is saying that abortion is not the way to go, then wouldnt Pro-Abortion be the exact opposite?

Im personally on the fence with this issue. I mean I definitely feel like the child should be born, regardless of whether the Mother intends to care for it herself or put it up for adoption. But I cant say that im solely Pro-Life because I honestly dont know what I would do if my Wife had been raped, or had a high chance of her dying giving birth. I'd like to say I would still want her to have the child, but in circumstances like that you never know how you're truly going to act or what you're actually going to decide.

 

man, after i dug deeper i found how wrong you were.

first, ABORTION IS MURDER!!!!
second, the bible says that murder is against God
third, it also says "he who is not WITH me is AGAINST ME!"
(if you're not against abortion you're for it)
four, Obama said on the topic of abortion,
it is up to the mother....

I can't stand for a HALF BAKED UNSAVED POLITICAL LEADER!

DO NOT VOTE OBAMA!!!!
 

So do you mean to tell me that if you saw someone beating their two year old child in the supermarket you would be like well as the childs mother it is her choice to do that? I'm hoping that you would not just allow that to happen and you would tell police or someone that worked there. What is the difference between that and a baby that is aborted? The fact that the two year old is born? That seems unfair.


In my opinion Pro-Abortion people are not always telling people to get an abortion or suggesting that as the first option. To me its people that dont see abortion for the evil that I believe it to be. If you just stand aside and allow it to happen how is that helping anything? My point is just that when people say Pro-Choice what is the choice that they are talking about? The choice of Abortion.


As for rape it is absolutely disgusting. I personally believe that aborting a child conceived in rape is letting the attacker win. To me it just makes the rape worse because not only does the woman have the issues of the rape, now she is dealing with the death of her child by her own "choice". The high chance of dying is something else many people bring up and my cousin actually had preeclampsia when she was 26 weeks pregnant. Luckly she made it the hospital and they did an emergency cesarean. Her son was born at 1pound 7 ounces and survived! He had to have many surgeries and still battles with a few problems. Overall he is fine. There is so many things out there to help the mother and the baby survive. That I know for me personally I could not just because of a medical problem because I have seen prayers answered and I believe that God will get me through any problem I may face. Let alone the fact that most abortions are not done for reasons of rape or medical problems.

 

Anyone who supports Partial Birth Abortion is not only PRO-ABORTION but their head is out of whack! Think about it! Killing Children as they are being born, how can anyone support such insanity? I can't believe anyone would vote for someone so off his rocker!
 

First of all, just because Obama was raised Muslim does not mean that he is now ... Second of all its OBAMA not O'BAMA ('= IRISH) ... "Obama refuses to WHERE an American Flag pendant" ... ? that doesnt make sense, it should be WEAR ... Did you know that McCain chose Palin because of a BLOG that a guy, living in his mothers basement wrote?!? ... It's probably beacuse Palin was the only one that would accept the invitation to be his running mate ...
 

Actually, O'Biden :), was quoted as saying he would have run as VP with McCain, cause McCain was considering it. True story.

 

"McCain chose Palin because of a BLOG that a guy, living in his mothers basement wrote?!?"
Are you being sarcastic or for real? I would like the proof on this, please.

 

I wouldn't doubt it was somebody big like Rush Limbaugh.

 

Living offensively for God means being a republican?
 

This much is unfortunately true
 

No, no. It doesn't mean being a Republican. It means voting for whomever the maintainers of this profile judge to be most Christian of all available candidates.


It means that even though it is a fact that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time during his last term you should ignore that and tell yourself that McCain won't make any of the same dumb mistakes. It also means that you should ignore McCain's grossly insufficient and ridiculous plan for our health care system. And don't even worry yourself with how he's outright lying through his teeth when he tells the masses that "Senator Obama will raise your taxes. I won't. I will cut them where I can." (Which would only be true if he were speaking to an audience of rich people. According to an in-depth comparison done by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, McCain will be "providing 'relatively little' tax relief to low- and middle-income earners, while giving 'huge tax cuts' to the highest income brackets". [http://www. taxpolicycenter. org/UploadedPDF/411702_CandidateTaxPlans_summary. pdf, for you fact-checkers].
)

But we can excuse outright lying about tax plans, since he's such a good Christian otherwise.


And for Sarah Palin, I guess I can glaze over the easy targets of Troopergate and the fact that she attempted to have a book banned in Alaska; not to mention that she threatened to have the librarian fired when she refused.


From an article in Time (http://www. time. com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00. html):

"'She asked the library how she could go about banning books,' [John Stein] says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. 'The librarian was aghast.' That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving 'full support' to the mayor.
"

I guess Christian morals don't necessarily dictate that one maintain basic ethics. Odd.

BUT, since I'm sure we all know about all that, let's just go with the favorite issue around here: abortion. True, Palin is pro-life, but I don't see why that would matter should she become VP. Palin herself thinks that each state should decide that issue for itself.


From an interview with Katie Couric on October 1st:

Q: Why is Roe v.
Wade a bad decision?

A: I think it should be a states' issue not a federal government-mandated, mandating yes or no on such an important issue. I'm, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas. Now, foundationally, it's no secret that I'm pro-life that I believe in a culture of life is very important for this country. Personally that's what I would like to see further embraced by America.


So yeah, it's not like she's gonna fight to outlaw abortion on a national level. So that's void. She does, however, think that abortion is permissible if the mother's life is expected to end as a result of pregnancy or childbirth. Is that an acceptable gray area for most of you? I mean, I know how you people feel about gray areas.



I'm tired of getting myself angry by pointing out all of the plain facts that so many people just choose to ignore.


Here's a broader thought: Why would we even want someone in the White House who would push the special interests of any one religious group? Our country boasts a beautiful diversity and champions, traditionally anyway, the respect and dignity of ALL of our inhabitants. There was meant to be a separation of church and state in this country, because a man's spiritual and religious choices are his own; they aren't to be forced down his throat by law.


And the "Christian Nation" diatribe is the worst of it all. America was NOT intended by our founding fathers to be a Christian nation, whatever most Christians may claim.


Thomas Jefferson:

I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.


SIX HISTORIC AMERICANS,
by John E.
Remsburg, letter to William Short

John Adams:

The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.


Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli.
Article 11 states:

The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.


James Madison:

What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.


Madison objected to state-supported chaplains in Congress and to the exemption of churches from taxation.
He wrote:

Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.



That's all. I've already spent far too much time finding credible sources and putting together something coherent for a group of readers that I'm sure will pay no attention. If you did read this, and you do have the courage to think for yourself even if it goes against what your preacher told you, then hats off to you my friend.

 

thank you for clarifying it.
Seriously I'm not kidding thank you
 

live offensively for God means you put God and your beliefs above any certain party
 

No it means voting for the person that isn't going to vote for supporting gays and killing innocent babies!
 

sorry to kill your views on homosexuality but, palin does support gays and lesbians (not in marriage which strangely enough obama and biden are against as well with gay marriage as said in the vp debate)
 

You don't have to vote at all to live offensively for God. "Ain't no savior in Capitol Hill." Whether a God-honoring president is elected or not, God is still in control of our futures.

 

Cool shirt, I like it. I hope McCain and Palin win and I will pray and keep on praying that they do win.

 

i love sarah palin!

mccain-palin '08 baby!!!
 

Love the shirt!
People should realize true Christians like you & I are voting McCain/Palin NOT because they're Republican, but because of what they stand for. I prefer a candidate who is patriotic (and not afraid to show it!), values life from conception & will defend our country's freedom. Obama is none of the above.