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Age: 40
Sign: Aries

Country: UK
Signup Date: 6/18/2006
Saturday, July 07, 2007 

Category: Religion and Philosophy
~His disciples asked him," Do you want us to fast ? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe ?" Jesus said, " Do not lie and do not do what you do not like, because all things are revealed before heaven . For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will not be uncovered".~(Gospel of Thomas, Saying 6)

~Jesus said," If the flesh came into being because of spirit , that is a marvel , but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels. Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty"~ (Gospel of Thomas, saying 29)

~"Enlightenment is not a condition to be obtained; it is merely a certainty to be surrendered to, for the Self is already one's Reality. It is the Self that is attracting one to spiritual information"~ (Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, p304, David R. Hawkins)

What is spirituality really about? Underneath all the terminology, all the mystical-sounding words, all the theatrical displays, what does it really mean? Here's a perspective, for what it is worth:

Spirituality is about the knowing that the awareness of "others" is as real as the "my awareness". The human condition means the apparent individual thinks that their own pleasure and "problems" are somehow more real and important than that of others, because we are identified with our own experiences. But this is just a perspective, it is not Reality. Knowing this (deeply, not just intellectually) makes us realize that we are not the centre of our Universe, that the field of awareness endures for ever, not the individual forms that come and go within it. This is liberation, joy and peace: to know our true infinite identity - we are not our bodies, emotions, thoughts, memories, success, ambitions, what others think of us, or our experiences: we are the One Awareness in which all these things happen. Surrendering the payoff of identification with our own experiences gives an incredible new freedom - no longer do we have to spend our lives run by trying to "get" something - we realize that there is nothing to get because we ARE the Allness.

The atheist says consciousness (awareness) is but an accident of evolution. The mystic says that the material world is an appearance within consciousness - it is in divinity/ consciousness that we move and have our being. It is the knowing of the true Self of everyone as this divinity/ consciousness that is the heart of spirituality from which emerges love, peace, and joy.

So far, so simple. So what makes it appear so complicated? Here are some thoughts:

First, people are often seeking "spiritual experiences" (and often, experiences of the paranormal), whereas spirituality is beyond experience (though experiences might, perhaps, be signposts along the way). Experiences come and go, the awareness behind experiences is eternal.

Second, people are often seeking a replacement identity through spirituality - which of course is just another identity, little different from an identification with a particular fashion brand or particular culture. Spirituality language and spiritual self-labeling is nothing to do with authentic spirituality; spirituality is about discovering the liberation of living beyond identity. (Whereas one of the biggest attachments of human nature is to its manufactured identities).

Third, we are conditioned to think of spirituality as something we can do, or grasp hold of; whereas it is simply the unveiling of what already IS. Human nature wants to be the doer; the reality is that Life is the doer and realizing our true infinite Self is a gift of grace.

Fourth, spirituality is often regarded as a means to an end, whereas the realization that we-are-already-that-in-which-all-things-happen brings the knowing that there is nothing to gain or achieve.

And, last but not least, the IMPLICATIONS of knowing that all-others-are-as-real-as-me, are so radical, that the human condition would rather focus on anything other than this reality. Who really wants to be dethroned from the centre of their universe?

Your comments and views are most welcome...

Love and peace!
Joseph
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Business Voodoo

 
beautiful ...

i think the thing that makes it so complicated is rather simple too: we replace our perception with reality. we have been taught how to do that since we were born. hence we are only accustomed to having awareness in the context of our perception, rather than awareness within reality.

beautiful, simply surrender . . .

peace & harmony,
elaine
'freedom must be exercised to stay in shape!'
 
Posted by Business Voodoo on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 6:08 PM
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* Christy Lou Who *
Christina Tolentino

 
That last point is the one that I think gets people into the box and not wanting to come out... having to admit the realness of others who maybe they don't agree with or even like, is something many don't wish to do... But sometimes things at the center aren't "all that." Especially when we come down off the perch and find beauty in everything else around it.

thank you sweet one!
love and Peace
C
 
Posted by * Christy Lou Who * on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 6:21 PM
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* Christy Lou Who *
Christina Tolentino

 
I hope you don't mind me linking this post to one I just did - it really goes well with the topic and I am collecting posts done today, that all are on the same wavelength... Blessings my friend! <3
 
Posted by * Christy Lou Who * on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 3:31 AM
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Nene

 
i know many people who claim themselves as "spiritual".... i really don't understand why this has become such a fancy label. kind of a "show off" thing even. those people love to use this particular language, "higher Self" and such ... as if only by the knowledge of those words you could be enlightened. when i don't listen to their words but to their actions, i recognize deep pain ...

thank you for this blog, joseph. you are one of the few who think things through.
 
Posted by Nene on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 6:44 PM
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Shari

 
yes..so true! Similarly, my friend and I always talk about how certain common everyday expressions like "Live in the Moment" or "just be" are thrown around and used by most people. Yet, the true essence and integration of these commonly used phrases are so different when understood on a conscious level.
 
Posted by Shari on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 2:23 PM
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Bea Here Now

 
Hi Joseph -
Your points are stated so simply and elegantly... :)
The one I still have the most trouble with on my own journey I think is number 4, "spirituality as a means to an end". At times, many times actually, I see that "we-are-already-that-in-which-all-things-happen", and yet I forget it so easily. The times when I don't indentify with my own identity still seem to happen more spontaneously that at my choosing.
I want to "make it happen" sometimes and that forcing is what actually blocks my view of Reality and makes me identify even more with "me" - the one "trying" to be spiritual. It's kind of silly but at times I think I am trying to achieve "being spiritual", and of course this doesn't work.
I'm still learning and doing my best to understand this and sometimes all is very clear and sometimes there is confusion. I hope this makes sense. :)
Thank you. Great blog Joseph.
Love and Peace.
B.
 
Posted by Bea Here Now on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 7:51 PM
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Seventh Soul

 
Dear Joseph, I'm reflecting on these thoughts myself right now....ego needs attention so often....peaceful adaptation to collective needs seems more humble. For me, a sign of spiritual evolution, if you will, is humility. Life here on earth feels "fake" to me in so many ways....the ego in us all is "noisy" and creates dissonance and arguement just for its own sake. Crazy. I've often found that so-called "spiritual" people can be just as judgemental and righteous as the "Christian right." Again, as you point out - that sneaky ego masquerading in yet another threatened identity!

I agree that realizing our own true self is simply a gift of Grace - natural and sweet. But centuries of ego-driven desires and demands have molded humanity in an aggressive physical stance. The ego has hardened our bodies into armor. If we could all just realize, as you say, that 'others are as real as me', we would treat each other (and ourselves) more softly and work in cooperation instead of competition.

As always, Joseph, I enjoy your thoughts and deeper exploration into the human condition. Much love and peace to you, brother.
 
Posted by Seventh Soul on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 11:35 PM
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Anna

 
I know without a doubt that we are all one. I think of human beings as each drop of water that makes up a wave on the beach. You see the wave and you know it is made up of millions of drops of water, but you can not seperate the drops. They are all an integral part of that wave.

And it is the same with humanity. We are all one, but so many of us have bought into the illusion that we are seperate from our source and from each other. I do feel that that the time is coming where we will return to being a tribe and stop being so (false) self centered.

Thank you for your words.
 
Posted by Anna on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 2:25 AM
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Amphictyonis
sarah may

 
please delete my last two comments, I didnt finish what i wanted to say!!

I think the key words is others.
Spirituality is about the knowing that the awareness of "others" is as real as the "my awareness".

How many of us think that spirituality is about the self. When i realize that there really is no self, like the western way of thinking, that my individualty is part of the whole, then I think I can move closer to whatever enlightenment is.

Socrates said "Know thyself" I know I am nothing without this web of beings that I belong to.
 
Posted by Amphictyonis on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 5:53 AM
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Kiwi Warrior Queen

 
Spirituality as I experience it, has nothing to do with the mind. For the mind is of the Ego...the identity you refer to Joseph...no matter what label anyone gives it. For me, it is about BEING IN THE MOMENT...in the eternal moment of NOW...

When we are in the NOW...there are no judgements, no suffering, no drama...we simply ARE. There is no mind chatter, no needs, no pay-offs. And I now 'visit' the 'moment' but have yet to be able to remain there indefinitely.

Surely most of the human beings on this planet are anywhere and everywhere, except in the moment. And that is just the way it is....that is 'reality' for most of us, or so it seems.

I am not enlightened..who can truly say what that is? How can anyone who is not 'enlightened' themselves judge anyone else in their journey? Yet...many do it. I imagine if One WAS enlightened, then he/she would be the last one to cast a stone....

In the moment...we are ALL ONE.
Namaste' my wise friend and thankyou for the post. I enjoyed very much, the quotes you brought to the table...much food for thought.

Love and Light
~Di
 
Posted by Kiwi Warrior Queen on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 9:44 AM
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sister rain !

 
Yes it seems to me as if instead of all these personality disorders they keep giving names for that personality itself might be a bit of a disorder. ;) Perhaps not our natural state; this illusion of separated me-ness. But I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, I think we might be here, doing this personality thing for a reason--to learn some important things. But it's important to keep things in perspective and realize this is an experience we are passing through (temporal bodies) and, oh the stories we shall tell of pleasure and pain. It is good to appreciate and care for these vehicles we inhabit, but we should always remember we are so much more than them and to relax, stop forcing and enjoy their own being in each experience. Great piece of writing dear Joseph! Peace and love to you always you beautiful soul you!
 
Posted by sister rain ! on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:17 PM
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~*Lady Ellen*~
Ellen Ceder

 
Wow Joesph, you have really brouht up some very unique and powerful points to ponder. Thank you so much for being so wonderfulmy dear.....Kudos all around...yay...*smiles*
 
Posted by ~*Lady Ellen*~ on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:51 PM
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Pupae Nation

 
Well Said. Conditioned for "doing" instead of "being", we seek to attain answers, enlightenment, solutions and spirituality outside of ourselves when they are already there inside of us...internal, eternal oneness. Your insight always prompts me to reflect and analyze where I am and how I am doing. I thank you for it!
 
Posted by Pupae Nation on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 1:02 PM
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Mike Pierce
Mike Pierce

 
Not only dethroned but death. Without that ego perception I am gone. Although its not really scary because we would just experience awareness.. It feels like it is the end of all things.. In awareness its kinda like on the Matrix when cypher is watching the computer screen and says 'there is way to much information to read it, all i see is blond, brunette, red head... hey ya want a drink?"
 
Posted by Mike Pierce on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 4:36 PM
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Bright Light Warrior Nika

 
awesome post.

:D

lots of light
marie
 
Posted by Bright Light Warrior Nika on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 5:47 PM
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yogini

 
What an excellent post, with many important insights! It's so funny how, when you watch the ego, it tries to change the little bits around the edges without losing its imagined throne in the center of the universe. Life experiences are too commonplace? Let's "improve" things with spiritual expenses. Mundane goals seem inadequate? Let's call in a new spiritual identity, with its correlating set of goals, language, etc. Anything to keep "working" - anything to keep the mind spinning on what it imagines it needs in order to, finally, be satisfied. As you get better at watching, it seems like the ego gets more subtle, presenting more apparently reasonable or righteous reasons about why we must grasp and strive rather than to simply be.

These are great tips for patterns to be wary about. Thank you, dear Joseph!

Love and peace!
Robin
 
Posted by yogini on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 4:23 AM
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tulasi mata

 
I only know that i know nothing!
who ever wrote that was tired...

When I stopped trying to understand all those big words as enlightement,Spirituality etc. with the intellect and just be guided with the heart the questions died.
you are correct and everyone else is also.
much love to you
tulasi
 
Posted by tulasi mata on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 3:47 PM
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~*Princess Ecstacy*~
Adrienne Dumas

 
There is nothing to gain or achieve - we already are Love, Peace, Joy, Abundance, Well-Being, etc. That is a HUGE ephiphany for me ~ or perhaps it's just a great reminder. But I get so caught up in everyday life and the "doing-ness" of life that I forget so many times that to just BE really does bring me happiness. How many times have I meditated to where I quiet my mind and go to that place where the "I AM" resides (Heaven, Peace, Love, GOD), and I feel absolutely PEACEFUL, only to draw myself back into this world and go on with my so-called "life" and the business of the world? There must be some type of underlying fear or guilt that is not allowing me (or seems to be not allowing me) to accept that peaceful state as my true reality - this is why I work with A Course in Miracles everday. So that slowly I can forgive all seeming illusions, awaken to the Truth, fully except the embrace of Gods loving hands, and enter into that state of Heaven, where I have never actually left.

Thanks for this beautiful blog entry.

Love and Light to you always,

~*PRINCESS ECSTACY*~
 
Posted by ~*Princess Ecstacy*~ on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 6:54 PM
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+elizabeth+

 
This was a great blog Joseph!

I hope you are doing well my friend :)
 
Posted by +elizabeth+ on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 9:25 PM
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Sherill: ~Kick Ass Angel~

 
Spirituality to me means, truly experiencing that everything and everyone is connected.
you are me and I am you.
All one. No seperation, between plants, humans, animals, the mountains, the rivers, the oceans, even the planets, sun and stars.

Looking at everything that happens with the eyes of love, with compassion.
Being aware of whatever happens in this moment, right now.
To get there is by silencing the ego-chatter, who keeps us separated. Then the door to our true self is opened and we are able to experience what we are. And that is certainly not the *I* we thought we were. Just vibrational beings. Resonating all the time.
Love and Peace Joseph.
PS: and damn I know it, I felt it. and still I can just explode when the world is in my face.
 
Posted by Sherill: ~Kick Ass Angel~ on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 11:57 PM
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yes, spirituality is about the awarness and enlightenment and liberation, not about the new identity or a specific way of "getting there". "once you label me, you negate me," said Soren Kierkegaard, because all there is just IS and only awarness of it speaks for itself.

how in the world could we lose something when we are whole? it is so simple when we find this wholeness within and it just makes you smile everyday when you open your eyes...

and yes... we always just DO DO and DO and want to do, or can't do, or have to do. humanity with its otential takes on this path from the end result, and that is not the order. we first need to BE, and all things come from that, and our behavior is dicated by the BEINGNESS, we DO because we ARE. it is simply a side-effect.

thank you for sharing Joseph! you are amazing!

PEACE.LOVE.LIGHT
 
Posted by on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 2:34 AM
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SeekerKaren

 
Hi Joseph,
I'm glad you are able to write so elegantly and express these beautiful thoughts so well. It's funny to me that people don't already know how real the reality of others is. My goodness, don't they ache when someone cries in pain? But no, not everyone is like this. They have yet to grow spiritually. But loving commentaries such as this one do help to offer progress for the spiritual evolution of everyone.

Many blessings my friend!
Karen. :-)
 
Posted by SeekerKaren on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 7:59 PM
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Яαђк¥†

 
"And, last but not least, the IMPLICATIONS of knowing that all-others-are-as-real-as-me, are so radical, that the human condition would rather focus on anything other than this reality. Who really wants to be dethroned from the centre of their universe?"

Hm. I think aspects of this are running through my current blog series. A manifestation of an aspect of lower consciousness at a super-human level, perhaps. An experience of material incarnation as a force tending toward it's own continuance, a thread running through 'time and space' that cultivates a base material condition of living and attempts, by its own efforts at preservation, to subvert spirit. Hm.

TY, bro. :)
 
Posted by Яαђк¥† on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 7:06 PM
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marylouise

 
what a great blog...to "realize" and intigrate the oneness...there is no competition , there is truly enough for all...perhaps the most overwhelming thought is to become spiritual is to have "access" to all that love and light...

this really said it for me..:This is liberation, joy and peace: to know our true infinite identity - we are not our bodies, emotions, thoughts, memories, success, ambitions, what others think of us, or our experiences: we are the One Awareness in which all these things happen. Surrendering the payoff of identification with our own experiences gives an incredible new freedom - no longer do we have to spend our lives run by trying to "get" something - we realize that there is nothing to get because we ARE the Allness.

Yet, are we ready...to take the plunge? thank you for this well written blog..ML
 
Posted by marylouise on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 9:22 PM
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Divinity Rose™

 
I do have to admit it's hard to leve the boundaries of my universe and examine others

;)
 
Posted by Divinity Rose™ on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 2:19 PM
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SurfingTheTao

 
Great post, Joseph. Learning to discern the difference between the voice of one's ego and the Voice of the Spirit is paramount, and you've captured this nicely. Aloha!!
 
Posted by SurfingTheTao on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 8:24 PM
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Evelyn, Student of Serge Raynaud

 
Hi Joseph, I feel that this is your best blog yet. I really love it.

First, people are often seeking "spiritual experiences" (and often, experiences of the paranormal), whereas spirituality is beyond experience (though experiences might, perhaps, be signposts along the way). Experiences come and go, the awareness behind experiences is eternal.

*******yes Joseph, all my spiritual experiences have been accidental with the exception of my asking for help in the way of advice and I surely have gotten it. But this does not mean that I am any more special than the next guy, it just means I have been lucky to accidentally be able to tap in to other realms, I wish for everyone to have beautiful spiritual expreiences and as we all know everyone's will differ according to their level of consciousness or awareness.

"The liberation of living beyond identity" I love this statement. I wish that everyone could become liberated and therefore find true peace and happiness, which is what everyone truly deserves..

Fourth, spirituality is often regarded as a means to an end, whereas the realization that we-are-already-that-in-which-all-things-happen brings the knowing that there is nothing to gain or achieve.

**********there are seven major states of evolution (consciousness/awareness) on this plane. After we "graduate", then we do not reincarnate into this third dimension but into a higher realm. then there are seven stages or planes there to reach and then we go to the next plane and there are seven more there and so on and so forth. So there is no means to an end because God is infinite and so are we (after we shed this "costume" of ours)
therefore its best to be humble and keep on truckin' , learning and applying what we learn to our lives

**********I think that if we really knew that all others are the same as me there would be no more wars, no more domination, racism, crimes committed against others etc. So therefore keep reminding us that all others are the same as me ! But most importantly how and why. : ) thank you for such a great blog ! Luv 'ya ***Evelyn
 
Posted by Evelyn, Student of Serge Raynaud on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:48 PM
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John Cord
John Cord

 
I enjoyed this very much. The Selfless Spirit dethrones all of us and at the same time sits us next to the Throne of God. The more self-centered, the less empathic - NOT wanting to know the awareness of others is as real as "my awareness."
Beautiful, Joseph. I hope you are well and having a terrific week so far.
Much love to you and your family,
John
 
Posted by John Cord on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 4:42 AM
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J

 
I been waiting on you Holy Child, thank you for the request. Your words are truer then true..
Much light shines thru you indeed.
My love is yours
J
 
Posted by J on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 7:26 PM
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dawn

 
yes, all others are as real as me
all others are me
a thread of all that is and will be, and has been runs through us all
a day came when i saw with clearity
a unveiling, a look beyond what is seen,
but is there before us at all times
for humanity to realize we each were children once and all
wouldnt we all come to marvel??
 
Posted by dawn on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 8:53 PM
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clearly

 
spirituality, to me, is a feeling. a feeling of love rue and simple. not being in love, that is physical. it is an experience. it usually doesn't last because we are trting to be it not feel it.
 
Posted by clearly on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 4:12 AM
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∞KHEM™∞

 
It is always worth to pause in our journey and ask ourselves such questions!

What is the Essence of Spirituality?

Your perspective depicts it quite clearly and lays the basis of our interrelations due to the fact we are all One.

Your 4th point is my favorite as once you realize it, that's when you get busy giving or developping your Giving consciousness; really the only consciousness worth having!

Thanks & Stay Blessed!
 
Posted by ∞KHEM™∞ on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 12:41 PM
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Divinity Hanael Rose

 
Do you ever catch yourself feeling almost startled and in awe because for a bit you realize and FEEL that you are walking around inside yourself?
 
Posted by Divinity Hanael Rose on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 8:38 PM
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Mystic Consciousness
Em See

 
hahahahahahaha...be free, genuinely laugh at the idea of your identity and you will experience the happiness you are composed of...

Much Luv
 
Posted by Mystic Consciousness on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:42 AM
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Shari

 
wow! awesome blog. All so true..though I do believe that although spirituality is not "something we grasp hold of", it is something that "we can do" in terms of understanding. It's so easy to fall back into humaness and ego...I mean I have been that for 35 years!! So I DO need to actively work to keep myself in awareness. Maybe someday it will come more naturally but, for now, it's perfect just the way it is, right ;)

Thanks Joseph!! Loved it!!
 
Posted by Shari on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 2:04 PM
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Airan
Airan Skye

 
Yes...yes...somebody does understand...we are all part of the web...each individual and unique thread as important to to the weaver as the next...
 
Posted by Airan on Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 10:24 PM
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